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Question: Sent btc with high fee but no confirms, not credited in gambling site and you want to bet on your favorite match anyhow as you think you will win it. What will you do?
I will just wait and watch, that is all I can do. 😕 - 18 (42.9%)
I can't wait at all, I will ask a mining firm to help me as I can pay more fee. - 4 (9.5%)
I will go to the gambling website's support staff and ask them to credit my coins and let me play. - 7 (16.7%)
I will double spend it with higher fee to get the next sent transaction confirmed quick, because I want to gamble at any cost. - 6 (14.3%)
I will increase the fee as my transaction was RBF. - 7 (16.7%)
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October 31, 2020, 01:59:23 PM
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Some casino credit deposit instantly. So whenever I think to play with bitcoin, I deposit on those casino. Cause I know it may take longer time than expected. And waiting for a deposit is really irritate when I made my mind to play with that. Though occasionally I deposit btc to those casino where it needs confirmation to be credited in account. If bitcoin network become busy during this time, I will wait and watch, nothing else.

I dont see any casinos now that does have that instant deposit feature yet we know that it can be possibly having some problems when it comes to possible double-spend that
had already been unveiled in the past which other users tend to abuse thats why majority is been requiring at least 1 conf in the network before the deposit do credit out
on gambling sites wallet balance.

You wont really have any option but to wait up for deposit to credit out unless if its was RBF then you can increase the fee anytime as you like but the question is,
would you really tend to increase it?If you are in a hurry then you might possibly do it but if not then you will just sit back and relax.  Cool

It is really irritating when you do wait up when you do really like to play gambling on spot or to see some good chances with your bets.

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October 31, 2020, 08:02:50 PM
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If double spending can solve the problem and you are confident with your winning bets then it is worth as long as your winning will give you some profit deducted by your expenses in transaction fees.

Because if I were in your case and I am 100% confident that my bets will win then I will do anything just to confirm my bitcoin transactions, if mempool is clogged then I will increase my fee just to prioritize my transaction.
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October 31, 2020, 09:36:19 PM
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Waiting and watching can only be a good option when mining fees come under control in near time and the mempool gets cleared up quick, but after observing current situation about the fees, I have selected the last (and probably the best) option of replacing my fee by adding extra fee if I want to make a quick favorite bet on a gambling portal. I also have some good contacts of a few reputed gambling websites where I can ask them directly to credit my account with the coins and they happily help me out.

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November 01, 2020, 02:20:32 AM
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I can't afford to double-spend so I have no choice but to just watch or wait for the result of the game. I will just use the amount I deposit on other games that I think I would win.
And customer supports doesn't have the authority to credit you some coins just because you experienced a transaction delay.
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November 01, 2020, 02:38:26 AM
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Some casino credit deposit instantly. So whenever I think to play with bitcoin, I deposit on those casino. Cause I know it may take longer time than expected. And waiting for a deposit is really irritate when I made my mind to play with that. Though occasionally I deposit btc to those casino where it needs confirmation to be credited in account. If bitcoin network become busy during this time, I will wait and watch, nothing else.

Even if the casino credit deposit instantly, they need to wait for the confirmation process. If the network is busy and has big transactions that needed to confirm all at once, it would wait for a while. If you can increase the fee, perhaps, you will get a fast confirming of your transaction. So it is better just to wait and watch the confirming of the transaction, or we can come back in a few minutes later to see if it is done or still wait for more. I don't want to spend more to get credit in my account.

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November 01, 2020, 03:27:09 AM
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Contacting the support is always been my attitude in gambling sites that is giving me some issues and luckily that they are acting fast than i expected.
Why do other actions when they can resolve their sites issue right and besides this is their obligation being service provider and reporting is our obligation being a user.
so this is a both parties action that will make our gambling playing cool and fun.
I can't afford to double-spend so I have no choice but to just watch or wait for the result of the game. I will just use the amount I deposit on other games that I think I would win.
And customer supports doesn't have the authority to credit you some coins just because you experienced a transaction delay.
If having some time then contact the support mate,since double spending is something only desperate or addicted gamblers mostly do.(but not all  of course,i don't wanna be Bashed lol)
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November 01, 2020, 05:00:14 AM
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Set the fee of your transaction to maximum than anything in the mempool so your transaction will get confirmed in the next 5 to 10 minutes. You can't ask the website to deposit the funds which isn't having any confirmation yet, the balance will reflect once you reaches certain number of confirmation that's it.









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November 01, 2020, 05:20:25 AM
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Some casino credit deposit instantly. So whenever I think to play with bitcoin, I deposit on those casino. Cause I know it may take longer time than expected. And waiting for a deposit is really irritate when I made my mind to play with that. Though occasionally I deposit btc to those casino where it needs confirmation to be credited in account. If bitcoin network become busy during this time, I will wait and watch, nothing else.

There is nothing much we can do in this situation. I'll also prefer to only wait for the confirmation. Its almost impossible to contact the mining firm instantly and i wont increase the fee or double spent, because i am not sure it will increase the tx in the first place.
I will just wait for the confirmations.😕


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November 01, 2020, 05:23:54 AM
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Of course this is what i will surely do

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I will go to the gambling website's support staff and ask them to credit my coins and let me play.

because there is no much better approach in this kind of problem is from the gambling site ends answering your queries .

And i believe since i only play in legit casinos then they will answer me ASAP so i can continue my betting.

There are many gambling site that only need one confirmation before they will credit your balance. asking for it in support  will not help at all if the Bitcoin transaction is not yet confim by the network .

The best option if you  are tempted to play is to choose only gambling sites to play that will credit your balance in time they get the confirmation they need.
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November 01, 2020, 05:37:26 AM
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I never been into this kind of situation before but if I've face I think I go for the double spend to prioritize my transaction, but it will incur additional fee, but if I still have the time before the actual betting I can go for transaction accelerator, it always worked and have tried it several times in the past, but it will take two to four hours, I hope I'll never experience that it's quite depressing, if the outcome goes out to your favor and you did not made it.
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November 01, 2020, 06:09:50 AM
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Probably ask the support, the response honestly just depends on your reputation as well as the activeness of their support team, so this is kind of risky in it's own way since the replies could come from a range of minutes to even hours. Not that I'd honestly been in such a situation though, but if I were to put into one, I'd first ask for support before doing anything else. Spending more to push the transaction doesn't seem like a good move, especially since you're not really having a guarantee of a return with your bet. It'd honestly be double the disappointment if you actually lose the bet you spent those fees for.

Still, if I was desperate enough, I'd probably choose to increase the fees, I'd want to try transaction accelerators but I've honestly never used them before.

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November 01, 2020, 06:18:19 AM
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I never been into this kind of situation before but if I've face I think I go for the double spend to prioritize my transaction, but it will incur additional fee, but if I still have the time before the actual betting I can go for transaction accelerator, it always worked and have tried it several times in the past, but it will take two to four hours, I hope I'll never experience that it's quite depressing, if the outcome goes out to your favor and you did not made it.
well from your explanation that I can interpret it will increase shipping costs if needed but so far when I want to deposit or withdraw assets to my wallet I don't have to be like that because after all it will definitely enter the wallet, just need to be patient and of course movement the price of coins is not too fast so it is still safe when using normal speeds.

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November 01, 2020, 06:38:22 AM
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I dont see any casinos now that does have that instant deposit feature yet we know that it can be possibly having some problems when it comes to possible double-spend that
had already been unveiled in the past which other users tend to abuse thats why majority is been requiring at least 1 conf in the network before the deposit do credit out
on gambling sites wallet balance.
Gambling sites like sportsbet and roobet currently have instant deposits. I agree the double spending can be a problem and even though they have a good solution against them it's still an inconvenience for the casino and the confirmation rule is the only alternative for this.

Even if the casino credit deposit instantly, they need to wait for the confirmation process.
It's not really needed imo the waiting process becomes less of a priority unless you plan on making a withdraw later on.

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November 01, 2020, 07:40:18 AM
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Probably ask the support, the response honestly just depends on your reputation as well as the activeness of their support team, so this is kind of risky in it's own way since the replies could come from a range of minutes to even hours. Not that I'd honestly been in such a situation though, but if I were to put into one, I'd first ask for support before doing anything else. Spending more to push the transaction doesn't seem like a good move, especially since you're not really having a guarantee of a return with your bet. It'd honestly be double the disappointment if you actually lose the bet you spent those fees for.

Still, if I was desperate enough, I'd probably choose to increase the fees, I'd want to try transaction accelerators but I've honestly never used them before.

It's a waste of time contacting support if the gambling site does not have instant deposits. The replies are the same as other gambling websites that require confirmation. They can't help you unless the confirmation is enough for them to credit your funds.
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November 01, 2020, 09:48:08 AM
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Well, if you can afford to pay the current amount of fee needed for sending your btc to the site from your wallet then why not send iy so you can bet but if not then you'll have to wait before you send the btc. If your favorite team is upcoming for betting so the question is, are you willing to risk your btc for the team you wanted to bet?.

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November 01, 2020, 10:03:34 AM
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If your favorite team is upcoming for betting so the question is, are you willing to risk your btc for the team you wanted to bet?.
I will, maybe I will just get some amount not too big just exact to cover the fees and still able to bet properly. Since I might regret not betting when I found out they win, if I lose then it will be just a way of supporting and I only bet a minimal amount. It will depend on how much are we going to bet, we can't deny the fees are too high and we can't do anything about it but just to use other alts that have much lower transaction fees.

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November 01, 2020, 10:30:33 AM
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Of course this is what i will surely do

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I will go to the gambling website's support staff and ask them to credit my coins and let me play.

because there is no much better approach in this kind of problem is from the gambling site ends answering your queries .

And i believe since i only play in legit casinos then they will answer me ASAP so i can continue my betting.

I also picked this option and I consider this a good option instead of adding more or double spent which will incur you additional fees if it is past at least 2 confirmation I will ask support if they can grant my request to credit my account, if they turn me down I have no choice but to double spent, I have not yet experienced this scenario before but I will now have an idea when it does.
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November 01, 2020, 10:46:46 AM
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There are several ways to mitigate this high fee issue based on my research and experience over time:

1. Transact only on weekends since the mempool is usually not very congested during this period. For example, I just sent a transaction earlier today and it reached the destination address within 30 minutes.

2. Choose alternative currencies like Litecoin, Dogecoin etc whose TX times are way faster when compared to BTC.

3. Use segwit which helps reduce TX fees by upto 30%.

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November 01, 2020, 11:32:11 AM
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First of whenever I would gamble or make a transaction I would check the amount of fee required to make sure my transaction wouldn't be delayed or stuck.
And for OP's given situation I would make sure to put up enough fee to ensure that my crypto would be part of the priority transactions so it would reflect faster on the site so I could bet it right away.
Since it is my favorite team or game I would make sure that I wouldn't miss the chance of betting on it.
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November 01, 2020, 04:43:54 PM
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I dont see any casinos now that does have that instant deposit feature yet we know that it can be possibly ~snip~
I have played at few casino which credits deposit amount without any confirmation. DuckDice & LuckyFish are those type of casino. Maybe there are more casino which support instant deposit but I don't know or can't remember. DuckDice is my first choice to play with btc deposit.
Though LuckyFish allow instant deposit but I won't suggest anyone to play there. Cause the casino had some bad review at crypto gambling industry(also in this forum) while they started their service. But as an old user I haven't faced any problem there yet.

Even if the casino credit deposit instantly, they need to wait for the confirmation process.~
They will credit the deposit fund instantly to your account and you can play with that. But before making withdrawal, tips or rain your transaction must need to have required number of confirmation.

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