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October 30, 2020, 04:12:14 PM
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where is the bitcoin mostly used after speculation on the markets?
what is the area of economics that dont work without bitcoin ?
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October 30, 2020, 09:39:29 PM
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Do you mean which exchange has the most volume? Without, looking up data ( as I'm not sure if that's what you are asking), big exchanges like Coinbase, and the like will have the biggest volume during high, and low speculation periods. As for what economics applies to Bitcoin? Every single principle that applies to traditional currencies, applies to Bitcoin. The only difference is Bitcoin is a tad more volatile, and can bring big changes to its price in a small amount of time. 
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October 30, 2020, 10:08:18 PM
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where is the bitcoin mostly used after speculation on the markets?
what is the area of economics that dont work without bitcoin ?
I am thinking you mean which country uses bitcoin more, and if this was your question, then you need to know people of many countries uses Bitcoin,  more answer to that awaits your on the search or someone would reply here to it.
What I can tell you and I think you -newbie- would be good to know if Bitcoin is legal and used in your own country.
And every economical area rhymes with Bitcoin ones its accepted between the parties.
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October 31, 2020, 02:25:11 AM
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where is the bitcoin mostly used after speculation on the markets?
Mostly online services. VPN/proxy services(Mullvad, PrivateInternetAccess, etc), server and domain hosting services(NameCheap, Vultr, etc), gaming black markets(Sythe, etc), computer hardware(NewEgg), sports betting(NitrogenSports, etc), and such.

what is the area of economics that dont work without bitcoin ?
I'm not really sure what you mean here lol.

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October 31, 2020, 03:55:39 AM
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After Speculation bitcoin mostly used as a payment method. In last 2-3 years many websites and platforms have adapted it as a payment method. If you search in web you will find websites in every category which accepts bitcoin. Also you can buy gift cards of various shop with bitcoin than use that gift card for your purchase.
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October 31, 2020, 06:41:44 AM
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This is just my opinion guys but I think bitcoin and crypto general are currently most used is gambling purposes. Sportsbetting, poker and other card games, dice and roulette are places where bitcoin shines. Try also looking on the signatures/avatars surrounded here in our forum, major postion of it are from gambling websites.

what is the area of economics that dont work without bitcoin ?
Of course every area you could imagine because fiat was already there very long time ago before btc is born Cheesy. Remember that fiat is the main choice and crypto is still an option (at least for now).
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October 31, 2020, 07:01:10 AM
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Bitcoin use as payment option for sending money to other people.
Trading is just another way to use it to buy other crypto currency and gambling also one of other option that you can use your Bitcoin.



what is the area of economics that dont work without bitcoin ?

No idea, but Bitcoin is tool to make a life easier for business if they add it as other payment option.
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October 31, 2020, 08:08:31 AM
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Since you mentioned speculations, many people do use Bitcoin for speculative purposes. Buying it for cheap and waiting to sell their assets when the value goes up. Bitcoin's use case can be that of a store of value. Due to its scalability issues, it's not exactly the perfect currency for everyday transactions since the throughput isn't really great. Not to mention the fee rates that tend to go crazy when there is an increased number of transactions. In the last days, we have been looking at transaction fees of 150-250 sat/vByte.

Luckily, you can take advantage of the Lightning Network. Open up a payment channel with someone you intend to transact with a lot. You pay Bitcoin fees only for opening and closing the channel, all transactions that happen in between are processed within seconds.

Someone mentioned gambling. Yeah, Bitcoin is the most popular gambling coin. Let me give you an example. I placed some money on a match yesterday. I compared the odds on a few sportsbooks and two popular crypto sportsbooks had much better odds than fiat bookies. The difference wasn't small either. I memorized the odds. The bet I wanted to make was valued 1.83 by fiat casinos. The same selection had odds of 2.02-2.04 on Bitcoin bookies. Those who gamble know that this is quite a significant difference.

Depending on where you are, you will see bigger or smaller appreciation for Bitcoin. Take Asia for example. Japan has a big adoption rate, and Bitcoin is accepted by many retailers there. If you like travelling, you can use Travala.com and book your holiday with Bitcoin.

Microsoft, Burger King, Starbucks, KFC, Amazon, and many more. Here is a nice list of stores and retailers where you can shop with Bitcoin if you want.
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin/who-accepts/
     

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October 31, 2020, 10:15:08 AM
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where is the bitcoin mostly used after speculation on the markets?
Speculations in the market get Bitcoin into two phase [1] attempt from the whales to get coins from the weak-hands for their gains and [2] getting their stash pass on-to newborn investors for gains. The two are all speculations among inhabitant of this technology and it's a tool for loss/gain purposes.
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what is the area of economics that dont work without bitcoin ?
With my elementary knowledge in economics, the principles that work with Bitcoin are those that equally work for our real-world[fiats]. So, no area of economics that don't work with Bitcoin, except the principles of total supply which doesn't work with fiats and privacy IMO.

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October 31, 2020, 03:24:33 PM
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Based on my experience, I used bitcoin mostly as an asset then wait for it to become profitable for me. Sometimes, I also use it as a payment tool in when I pay my groceries in a supermarket near us. There are BTC ATMs in some part of the world which is good because people can now use it for their daily lives. Just like in Africa, I've read an article that there is a bitcoin ATMs in Africa which is a good adoption for them. Bitcoin is also a sign of economic development that can contribute the countries economy positively.


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October 31, 2020, 04:47:53 PM
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I tried to understand what you mean, but, I still couldn't do it well. So, my answer is probably only part of my own speculation about your question. Little bit confused about these.

where is the bitcoin mostly used after speculation on the markets?
speculation on the markets, do you mean here, after trading in the market? because, commonly, there is an investment and also speculation.
If you meant so, there are some probabilities:
- Bitcoin for further trading again
-  Bitcoin for long term investment - most people will move the BTC from the wallet exchange to their personal wallet (hardware is recommended).
- Bitcoin for payment method, it will vary on what products or services you got and make payment with BTC.

what is the area of economics that dont work without bitcoin ?
Don't work without Bitcoin?
I think that all economics here can still work without using Bitcoin. expect, the companies are really related to BTC such as its exchanges or platform concerning with BTC  Grin Grin


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October 31, 2020, 05:05:09 PM
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what is the area of economics that dont work without bitcoin ?
None.

Without bitcoin? Only area where privacy and freedom are very valuable.
You could at any time use Monero for them in that case.

I think that all economics here can still work without using Bitcoin. expect, the companies are really related to BTC such as its exchanges or platform concerning with BTC  Grin Grin

This reminds me of the Euro, when it was first introduced and replaced a lot of currencies the only really affected were exchange booth, suddenly you didn't need to change marks into franks into pesetas and always pay attention to the exchange rates, there were done of them in the center of the large cities praying on tourists, now only a few survived.
Bitcoin is a currency, is not like some part of the economy will disappear if by tomorrow the $ or the Euro is no longer there.
 

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October 31, 2020, 05:51:34 PM
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where is the bitcoin mostly used after speculation on the markets?

Bitcoin should be digital cash. Because of higher fees might not be so perfect in the future but right now if you are careful it is still good. I dont use it a lot, but sometimes for shopping on web stores. Although I have chance to buy with Bitcoin in a grocery store or on other physical locations I newer did that.  
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October 31, 2020, 09:40:06 PM
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There are BTC ATMs in some part of the world which is good because people can now use it for their daily lives. Just like in Africa, I've read an article that there is a bitcoin ATMs in Africa which is a good adoption for them. Bitcoin is also a sign of economic development that can contribute the countries economy positively.
There are Crypto ATMs in almost all parts of the world now. If the information at coinatmradar.com is correct, there are currently over 11.000 ATMs all over the world. Looking at the map of Africa, Djibouti has 1, Kenya also, South Africa has 6. I can see one in Nigeria, Zimbabwe, and Uganda.

Take a look here:
https://coinatmradar.com/

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October 31, 2020, 10:11:46 PM
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what is the area of economics that dont work without bitcoin ?
Do you mean that, bitcoin is the most needed to fuel its economy?

Bitcoin is widely accepted but it's just the alternative payment method of most services that have adopted bitcoin. So they should work even without bitcoin.

Crypto casinos that only has bitcoin on its supported crypto won't work if there's no bitcoin.

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October 31, 2020, 10:40:00 PM
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Bitcoin would be convenient for people who don't have a credit card or don't want to use the cards they have, either don't want the spouse to see it on the bill or don't trust giving their number to "porn guys", or afraid of recurring billing.
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So it must be used by anyone who values his privacy and want to be his own bank  Smiley
Unlike the old days, now it's possible to buy almost anything you want using bitcoin as most big companies started adopting it.

One of the areas where cryptos are the main payment method is the darknet market. If it becomes impossible to use cryptos anymore, then many businesses will be badly affected.

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October 31, 2020, 10:40:11 PM
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where is the bitcoin mostly used after speculation on the markets?
Aside from being used in trading, I think it's mostly used in crypto gambling sites because crypto gambling industry has been growing already, from millions to billions already if I'm not mistaken, this is just my own opinion as I could not find any information about this.

what is the area of economics that dont work without bitcoin ?
Any business that is operating which only accept bitcoin as a payment system, for instance, a casino that is only bitcoin based, without bitcoin they can't run their business, or bitcoin mixers.

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November 01, 2020, 03:21:25 AM
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Even on the platforms, what is being circulated is not cryptocurrencies, but rather updates to databases. Therefore, we cannot say that what is happening is an exchange of them, but rather that money is sent to those services.


bitcoin is not used to pay for many services due to currency fluctuation, but it can be considered a currency that is used as a reserve by storing it to increase its value instead of a currency for daily or monthly payments.
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November 01, 2020, 09:29:44 PM
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I’m not sure if I understood the question very well but if your question mean regions where the use of bitcoin is rampant or used more, then it’s would be a little bit technical as I have not yet seen any graphchart showing regions of the world and amount of bitcoin users. Bitcoin is used everywhere in the world but as a digitized currency it’s function and usage is more appreciated in Urban areas because it is believed that as a result of urbanization the class of people living in that kind of settlement are exposed to the internet and information is transmitted easily in such regions.

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