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November 03, 2020, 08:47:14 AM
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The forum has nothing to do with the bounties that are posting in the bounties section so cross it out. We're all grown up and we have to be responsible if we're going to take a step towards joining a bounty, just like bitcoin being a decentralized cryptocurrency, the same goes for the forum.

While for the bounty managers, they can require that if they think that's going to be an effective way of taking down unworthy participants. But do you know that cryptocurrency is all about anonymity, decentralization, and trustless? so applying KYC breaks that main agenda why it's made.

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November 03, 2020, 08:55:08 AM
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when you play at a gambling site I think it is normal that they require kyc. if you are a bounty hunter then I think it is a different story you do not want your data to end up with a person.
probably companies are obliged to ask for documentation etc. but I don't see why that should be mandatory for a bounty campaign then the whole usefulness of the anonymity is gone

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November 03, 2020, 11:03:27 AM
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We know that ClipX team stole kyc data from users and then they escaped. What is your opinion regarding this matter? Do you think that those who make kyc are not using fake data? I think if the bounty managers are more careful and cautious, cheating will be a lot less. Reading the following topic you will more clear about this.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285319.0

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Don't you know that most of the bounties asks the participants to complete KYC at the time of token distribution,which are supposed to be happen at the time of joining itself as per your suggestion?

KYC is against the idea of cryptos so crypto community should never appreciate that.

And this. To me, it is a straight scam when you change the terms of the bounty and after all the hard work they ask you to fill the KYC; many people would've never joined this campaign if they knew since the beginning that KYC was going to be mandatory.

And as far as I know there are many projects (airdrops mainly) that ask you to fill the KYC and then misuse your data. Sorry but no, thanks. I hope more and more members in this forum raise awareness on that.

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November 03, 2020, 11:13:59 AM
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I have seen so many bounty people make multiple accounts and cheat bounty campaign, is it not possible for forum or bounty managers to make kyc compulsory for bounty guys?
Those who have done kyc will get instant approval


Unfortunately, the fact that there are hundreds of farmers on the forum is mainly the fault of bounty managers (not all of them ofcourse, but most). They allowed it because they didn't check users at all, which made them understand that they could do whatever they wanted.
KYC is a solution, but in my opinion this form of verification will not be accepted. For one very important reason - cryptocurrencies are a symbol of freedom, decentralization, and anonymity, and KYC completely disagrees with this principle.

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November 03, 2020, 11:45:39 AM
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I have seen so many bounty people make multiple accounts and cheat bounty campaign, is it not possible for forum or bounty managers to make kyc compulsory for bounty guys?
Those who have done kyc will get instant approval

Not a bad idea honestly but what about those who are buying KYC off the web? there will always be cheaters in this space but its left for bounty managers to do the fishing, there are some tough bounty managers on this forum that are very strict on their campaigns, they are professionals when it comes to fishing out scammers

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November 03, 2020, 01:16:32 PM
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I have seen so many bounty people make multiple accounts and cheat bounty campaign, is it not possible for forum or bounty managers to make kyc compulsory for bounty guys?
Those who have done kyc will get instant approval

Not a bad idea honestly but what about those who are buying KYC off the web? there will always be cheaters in this space but its left for bounty managers to do the fishing, there are some tough bounty managers on this forum that are very strict on their campaigns, they are professionals when it comes to fishing out scammers

That's right, but the problem is bigger. The point is that some developers, mostly those who want to scam investors and bounty hunters, need spam. So they want as many participants as possible regardless of their quality. That's why they employ the cheapest managers who are basically just to create a thread, forms, accept everyone and basically that's it, because later bounty hunters will get nothing, because the developer will disappear with collected money.
Often, the developer also has own manager who usually doesn't know what to do or how to do it.
Good managers who know how to do this are mostly expensive and don't accept token payments only BTC/ETH, and scammers obviously don't want to pay in that way.

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Not a bad idea honestly but what about those who are buying KYC off the web? there will always be cheaters in this space but its left for bounty managers to do the fishing, there are some tough bounty managers on this forum that are very strict on their campaigns, they are professionals when it comes to fishing out scammers

Id has a price if you bought it online and it's not cheap you need to buy it bulk, but don't forget that kyc sometimes ask not only is but to have a photo with the person holding an ID.

I agree for other people here ,that nowadays it's easy to buy fake id or make your own fake id you need to learn how edit that that idand now you can use it every time you need it. There are many ways to reduce the cheater but asking for kyc is not the best option to be asked.

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November 03, 2020, 02:21:36 PM
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I have seen so many bounty people make multiple accounts and cheat bounty campaign, is it not possible for forum or bounty managers to make kyc compulsory for bounty guys?
Those who have done kyc will get instant approval

You can report them if you believe that these account are managed by one user, you can report it at this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0

But you have to know there is some rules that can allowed one people manage account for more than one as long as you are not trying to join all your alt account in one campaign.

Also, I just doubt the forum's moderator will approve it since we are here all respect to hide our identity. It will be good if all bounty manager here is really vigilant in choosing a bounty hunter.
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November 03, 2020, 04:59:28 PM
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Don't you know that most of the bounties asks the participants to complete KYC at the time of token distribution,which are supposed to be happen at the time of joining itself as per your suggestion?

KYC is against the idea of cryptos so crypto community should never appreciate that.

And this. To me, it is a straight scam when you change the terms of the bounty and after all the hard work they ask you to fill the KYC; many people would've never joined this campaign if they knew since the beginning that KYC was going to be mandatory.

And as far as I know there are many projects (airdrops mainly) that ask you to fill the KYC and then misuse your data. Sorry but no, thanks. I hope more and more members in this forum raise awareness on that.
Bounty hunters are not in a position to demand something from the project team, so nothing is going to be changed if few people starts thread like this and I feel every bounty hunter need to realize that their hard work being stolen with the stupid smart rules of the bounty team.

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November 03, 2020, 06:45:31 PM
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Don't you know that most of the bounties asks the participants to complete KYC at the time of token distribution,which are supposed to be happen at the time of joining itself as per your suggestion?

KYC is against the idea of cryptos so crypto community should never appreciate that.

And this. To me, it is a straight scam when you change the terms of the bounty and after all the hard work they ask you to fill the KYC; many people would've never joined this campaign if they knew since the beginning that KYC was going to be mandatory.

And as far as I know there are many projects (airdrops mainly) that ask you to fill the KYC and then misuse your data. Sorry but no, thanks. I hope more and more members in this forum raise awareness on that.
Bounty hunters are not in a position to demand something from the project team, so nothing is going to be changed if few people starts thread like this and I feel every bounty hunter need to realize that their hard work being stolen with the stupid smart rules of the bounty team.

In that case, the easiest solution is to be prepared for the fact that at the end of each bounty campaign to which we join, we will have to pass KYC verification. I know it's not fair, but I think it's the best way to avoid disappointment.
We can also ask the bounty manager and dev team very carefully before joining campaign. If they avoid responding, then we may suspect that they will attempt to make such change in rules at the time of distribution and they will request verification. Then we just leave such campaign.

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November 03, 2020, 07:58:24 PM
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In that case, the easiest solution is to be prepared for the fact that at the end of each bounty campaign to which we join, we will have to pass KYC verification. I know it's not fair, but I think it's the best way to avoid disappointment.
We can also ask the bounty manager and dev team very carefully before joining campaign. If they avoid responding, then we may suspect that they will attempt to make such change in rules at the time of distribution and they will request verification. Then we just leave such campaign.
Possibly this is the temporary solution, giving KYC details is not fair though but when you know what those rewards are worth to take then its time to compromise the privacy over the money.

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November 04, 2020, 06:24:32 AM
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I have seen so many bounty people make multiple accounts and cheat bounty campaign, is it not possible for forum or bounty managers to make kyc compulsory for bounty guys?
There are certain problems regarding this. The forum is free for all so it is not their responsibility but only the manager's responsibility to take.

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You see, the users who are making multiple accounts to cheat are not willing to stop and anything done to stop them will be faced with extreme retaliation because it will reduce their earning significantly.

The bad thing is that users can complain of identity theft and KYC selling away to wrong marketplaces which is rampant today through these campaign data collection.

In the end the managers have to face a middle ground. So leave it to them to take care of multiple account users or cheaters.

 
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November 04, 2020, 07:35:09 AM
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It seems that all are full of scammers some bounty doesn't pay reward to the participants and some bounty hunters have multiple accounts. I really don't think KYC is necessary in the campaign since most of the people especially in this forum is sensitive when it comes to personal information.

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November 04, 2020, 08:01:28 AM
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It seems that all are full of scammers some bounty doesn't pay reward to the participants and some bounty hunters have multiple accounts. I really don't think KYC is necessary in the campaign since most of the people especially in this forum is sensitive when it comes to personal information.

Not all but most of the forum members doesn't want to give sensitive information to anyone if it will exchange for their rewards they know how risky it is and can be use for identity theft so not good idea.

This will only looks cool for manager because it will help them to make their job easy, but for hunters no they don't like that. Before asking for kyc make sure that you already mention it the day you started the campaign not the day when the campaign is finish so participants can decide whether they will join or not early . Asked it when the campaign end is so unfair for other hunters.

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November 04, 2020, 11:26:49 AM
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In that case, the easiest solution is to be prepared for the fact that at the end of each bounty campaign to which we join, we will have to pass KYC verification. I know it's not fair, but I think it's the best way to avoid disappointment.
We can also ask the bounty manager and dev team very carefully before joining campaign. If they avoid responding, then we may suspect that they will attempt to make such change in rules at the time of distribution and they will request verification. Then we just leave such campaign.
Possibly this is the temporary solution, giving KYC details is not fair though but when you know what those rewards are worth to take then its time to compromise the privacy over the money.

KYC verification completely contradicts the basic principle of cryptocurrencies, i.e. anonymity. So I do not support it either. However, I do understand project developers who do not want to "feed" cheaters who apply with multiple accounts.
Alternatively, in those campaigns where KYC verification is necessary, there should be higher rates.

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November 04, 2020, 11:45:16 AM
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i think think this has been discussed before in the forum i don't think kyc would be a good idea to implement especially in this forum come to think of it, a lot of fake projects and scam projects are in this forum and they would ask you for your kyc they might use your personal information to any kind of illegal acts isn't so i can say that it's no safe to have kyc for bounty hunters.

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November 04, 2020, 12:06:58 PM
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Bounty with KYC has been around for long but does it change anything?
I just think that it put the honest hunters in danger for information leaks because of the scam bounties and I think you aren't new to it.
There are so many scam projects that collects personal information and sell it on the dark net or deep web.
And besides if they already cheated on bounty how could a KYC stop them from cheating they could use fake information or other people's detail.
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November 04, 2020, 12:14:21 PM
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I dont do kyc even  the bounty team ask for it, why will i submit my personal details for just a little amount of money. All i know is  Exchanges are the only ones that has rights to ask kyc of thier members.

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November 04, 2020, 12:56:03 PM
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For me its not a problem if the payment is a stable coin or btc and has fixed amount but if its for a bounty campaign to be pay with new tokens with no value, no exchange, only promises then its a big NO for me to send any KYC requirements its too risky to send kyc to other people whom you are not sure where it can be use later after bounty if for a purpose of kyc is to filter multiple accounts its really hard task for bounty managers only few participants will accept this kind of rule.

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November 04, 2020, 01:20:57 PM
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In that case, the easiest solution is to be prepared for the fact that at the end of each bounty campaign to which we join, we will have to pass KYC verification. I know it's not fair, but I think it's the best way to avoid disappointment.
We can also ask the bounty manager and dev team very carefully before joining campaign. If they avoid responding, then we may suspect that they will attempt to make such change in rules at the time of distribution and they will request verification. Then we just leave such campaign.
Possibly this is the temporary solution, giving KYC details is not fair though but when you know what those rewards are worth to take then its time to compromise the privacy over the money.

KYC verification completely contradicts the basic principle of cryptocurrencies, i.e. anonymity. So I do not support it either. However, I do understand project developers who do not want to "feed" cheaters who apply with multiple accounts.
Alternatively, in those campaigns where KYC verification is necessary, there should be higher rates.
Bounties can increase the rewards with single click because they are not paying a real cryptos ( because it doesn't have any value yet). Higher rewards may lure people but still it is not going to change the fate of bounty campaign cheats either hunters should move to bitcoin campaigns or they have to choose their project more cautiously.

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