Clubs to avoid per league in betting

[Onuohakk]

vailable on UCL, some UEL, some UEFA nation matches, Top 6 leagues in Europe, classic matches/derbies/rivals,
Avoid the following clubs per league
EPL
1. Manchester City/United (against small clubs) #

2. Chelsea (against last 6 on table)#

3. Newcastle*

La liga

1. FC Barcelona (against small clubs and offensive mid tables)#

2. Valencia C.F.

3. Real Madrid (when playing against offensive mid tables)#

4. Real Betis (though don't usually score but, makes attempt)

5. Celta Vigo*

Bundesliga

1. Wolfsburg #

2. Freiborg #

3. Bayern Munich # (Small clubs)

4. Leipzig (only when facing directly to the keeper i.e. just outside the edge of the penalty area, close)

Serie A

1. Atalanta #

2. Juventus *

3. Sampdoria *

4. Milan (edge of box)

Ligue one

PSG (small clubs)

Bordeaux *

Lyon #

Portugal PL

SL Benfica (edge of the box)

Famailcao

SC Braga


* means club will take freekick a
goal attempt at close range, irrespective of the opponent.

# Means club will not take freekick attempt often when fighting for points on table, on a winless streak or missing players.

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[nelson4lov]

The list is kinda funny to me since majority of the clubs you listed are my favorite teams and I do pick them for my multi-bet setups. I understand why both Manchester City, United and Chelsea made the list but I don't see any reason why you got Bayern and Atalanta considering both teams only had a few minor slip ups here and there. However, they been real solid since then. Since Ronaldo is back, Juventus are beginning to look sharp again. He netted twice in their 4-1 win against Spezia yesterday.


You could rearrange the table more so the data becomes more presentable.

[AB de Royse777]

I do bet on football for favourite teams and a lot of times I lose the bets not knowing the reason. I get this in mind that when I place bet for a team they lose LOL. For example, I had a bet for Barcelona to win, and they drew, I also had a double bet in Manchester United vs Arsenal match to have over 1.5 goals and Tottenham to win but in the Manchester vs Arsenal match they had only one goal.

What are the references of your finding or you are speaking from experience. I mean I would like to know the specific reasons of each clubs you are mentioning to.

You could rearrange the table more so the data becomes more presentable.

Yeah, I felt the same. I still do not understand the footnoes.

[Juggy777]

The list is kinda funny to me since majority of the clubs you listed are my favorite teams and I do pick them for my multi-bet setups. I understand why both Manchester City, United and Chelsea made the list but I don't see any reason why you got Bayern and Atalanta considering both teams only had a few minor slip ups here and there. However, they been real solid since then. Since Ronaldo is back, Juventus are beginning to look sharp again. He netted twice in their 4-1 win against Spezia yesterday.


You could rearrange the table more so the data becomes more presentable.

@nelson4lov I’ll second that as this list is not perfect, but after burning my money by placing bets on Manchester United, I have decided not to wager anymore bets on them until this season ends.

Furthermore I even doubt that he watches Bundesliga because he told us to avoid placing bets on Bayern, and in my personal opinion Bayern is a reliable team on which one can place their bets on a consistent basis.

[nelson4lov]

@nelson4lov I’ll second that as this list is not perfect, but after burning my money by placing bets on Manchester United, I have decided not to wager anymore bets on them until this season ends.

Furthermore I even doubt that he watches Bundesliga because he told us to avoid placing bets on Bayern, and in my personal opinion Bayern is a reliable team on which one can place their bets on a consistent basis.

True that. Like you, I have decided not to pick Manchester United but not until the season ends though. Until they get back to winning ways in the Premier league, I have no business with them. Yesterday's loss was the last straw that broke the camel's back.  I even picked them to win or draw but it still went sideways as they didn't have anything to play and they got outplayed by Arsenal. Either way, I will avoid them till I see improvement. I can't take anymore slip ups now.

As for Bayern, They're one of the very few teams I kinda trust because they've come through one too many times.

[bitbunnny]

Maybe the point is good and it's kind of clever to avoid these clubs, they can cost you nervs and money. However, there are gamblers who like exactly challenges like that and like to push their luck, it's some kind of excitement in it. From time to time I try my luck on Manchester and Bayern and I don't regret it although the outcome isn't always best for me.
And true football fans will tell you that is exactly why they like football, the best game in the world.
Btw the list could have been a little more presentable.

[Oshosondy]

To me, I will say it depends, betting in football is not only about home or away club winning, there are many other betting types like over 2.5 and the likes. With what the OP posted, I think he is only recommending people not to choose these clubs to either win or lose because their game is not predictable, but possibly they are playing over 1.5 goals or something. There are many things to bet while gambling, I can still see alternative reasons to take the clubs. But, I see point in what OP posted, we really need to be careful of some clubs.

[Johnyz]

Avoid the clubs that you think is not performing well but some on the list are great teams so I don’t know why do i need to avoid them where in fact I can bet with them and earn some money. Well, we all have different taste in gambling, do your own research before you bet and just enjoy the match watching it live. 

[ingiltere]

I suggest you to avoid Başakşehir in all European games because they (their manager and board members) openly admitted to concentrate on local league and don't care about European games at all. This might look strange and our people don't like this attitude because our country points significantly go down for that kind of thing but this is a reality.

Actually you don't have to avoid their matches, but avoid playing for them. Even if you look out a surprise win, this is not the right team to bet on.

Anyway they are playing in Champions League group stage this year and their group is already too hard. I don't see them winning against Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester United and Leipzig.
They already lost their first game against Leipzig in Germany and second game against PSG at home by two goals. This Wednesday they will play at home against Manchester United.

[Onuohakk]

Recommending some of these less competitive non-statistical markets.
You check these markets.
1. Goal to be scored by free-kick (NO) 1.07-1.11 odds. I mean you avoid the likes of Juventus, Barcelona, PSG, Newcastle, and Napoli (they have good set-piece players that can get a direct free kick on target, even without scoring)

2. Goal saved @ Double chance --(12) any. Odds 1.12 - 1.25) Some goalkeepers are better than others however, before placing such bets check out the team. In a match like Liverpool Vs Fulham, you should know that Fulham is likely to have more saves cuz Liverpool will keep making attempts on Fulham but, Liverpool keeper is better right, yes. However, how many shots on target are you expecting from Fulham (I will say barely 3).

3. Foul (double chance @12) any, fouls are less competitive as there are likely to be a team much aggressive than the other.

4. Throw in: Double chance @12, (odds 1.01 -1.05) no one competes for throw-ins whether HT or FT. Excessive defensive team causes throw in forcing one team to have thrown in than the other.
5. Goal kick: Double chance @12, (odds 1.05-1.09) bad attempts, bad headers, heavy crosses, careless dispossession causes goal kick, a dominating team is more likely to win goal kick hence (12) but, dominating teams with careful tactics might not win a goal kick e.g Bayer Munich Vs Koln, both are attacking clubs but, Bayer doesn't shoot carelessly, they prefer from inside the box attempts same with Liverpool, Man City, Barcelona, and big experienced clubs.

6. Corner double chance 12. (odds 1.07-1.2) work best for heavy defensive teams and heavy attacking teams, two attacking teams is never the best as they will both dominate the midfield and fewer corners, avoid Barcelona, Frankfurt and neutral teams (teams that keeps the match at a medium level, they don't like scoring and don't want you to score them e.g Fiorentina, Getafe, Hobro, ATL Bilbao, Sheffield united, Vitoria D. G, Freiburg, Valencia...)

7. Shot on target, double chance (12) (odds 1.09 - 1.25) works best for heavy attacking teams and avoid neutral teams.

8. Red card and penalty together in one match @No. (odds 1.07-1.14) Look for teams that are clean e.g Barcelona, Real Sociedad, Real Valladolid, Juventus, Newcastle, Liverpool, Aab, Bayern Munich, PSV check if it is a derby (avoid), two neutral teams or match value (to avoid relegation or secure championship)

9. One-minute event, corner in 1 minute (No) 1.06 odds, goal kick in 4:00- 4:59 (NO) (odds 1.12) avoid teams that with heavy attacking spirit, neutral teams are better here.

10. Goals in a row by team A or B (3 in a row @NO) Neutral teams are better here, avoid Man City, PSG, Barcelona, Atalanta, Salzburg, lask, Flora Tallinn, bate Borisov, Zenit, Ajax most big teams.

[Onuohakk]

@nelson4lov I’ll second that as this list is not perfect, but after burning my money by placing bets on Manchester United, I have decided not to wager anymore bets on them until this season ends.

Furthermore I even doubt that he watches Bundesliga because he told us to avoid placing bets on Bayern, and in my personal opinion Bayern is a reliable team on which one can place their bets on a consistent basis.

True that. Like you, I have decided not to pick Manchester United but not until the season ends though. Until they get back to winning ways in the Premier league, I have no business with them. Yesterday's loss was the last straw that broke the camel's back.  I even picked them to win or draw but it still went sideways as they didn't have anything to play and they got outplayed by Arsenal. Either way, I will avoid them till I see improvement. I can't take anymore slip ups now.

As for Bayern, They're one of the very few teams I kinda trust because they've come through one too many times.

“I scratch my head at players who don’t have enthusiasm for a game of football. Pogba is a hyped player, he should leave Manchester United. He has lost form.

“Sometimes you say ‘there’s no reason to panic’. But the results and performances suggest you should be panicking for Manchester United

“I judge the players by their actions and I just don’t see it. I never looked at a manager expecting to motivate me, that comes from within. Roy Keane has warned Ole Gunnar Solskjaer that his current Manchester United players will get him sacked. His days are numbered

[maxreish]

But I always bets on those teams like Chelsea, New Castle. Well, it always depends on which team are they going to fight with?
Game is unpredictable and I wonder what are the reasons or maybe a basis for those clubs to be avoided. Actually, we can do bets on both team's score, too. Not to avoid them, but get the opportunity while game started (which I usually do).

Recommending some of these less competitive non-statistical markets.
You check these markets.
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Wow, these are surely useful. I've bookmarked this and will try to incorporate this guide. Others depends on the set of players and the goals, so probably be the reason to avoid those teams.

[Yogee]

.....
but after burning my money by placing bets on Manchester United, I have decided not to wager anymore bets on them until this season ends.

They suck in EPL but they seem to be doing well on Champions league.

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Yeah, I felt the same. I still do not understand the footnoes.

The footnotes actually made this thread even funnier. I haven't read anyone point them out in all the football related topics I read so far. Onuohakk must have tabulated these free kicks and compare whether the team's freekick strategy is to go for the goal, place the ball inside the box for a header, or simply pass it around before attempting for a goal.

[swogerino]

I have laughed a lot by reading the list and the comments.About Manchester United and Real Madrid together with Barcelona I think you are referring to the last two-three years because these teams some years before never lost to small teams especially Barcelona and Real Madrid.I think it all depends on the circumstances and the players each team has at its disposal.

[Lakai01]

I have laughed a lot by reading the list and the comments.About Manchester United and Real Madrid together with Barcelona I think you are referring to the last two-three years because these teams some years before never lost to small teams especially Barcelona and Real Madrid.

A bit offtopic but due to the fact that you mentioned Barcelona I think that fits quite well ...

I'm curious if we can bet on Barcelona again in the near future, they are close to bankruptcy:

Barcelona could be declared bankrupt if they are unable to reduce their wages bill by 190 million euros by the end of next week, RAC1 reports. Negotiations to lower salaries began on Friday with a meeting between lawyers representing the club and the players.
Source

So currently they are negotiating whether the players will accept (severe) cuts in their salary or not. If not, Barcelona will have to file for bankruptcy and will therefore probably drop out of all international competitions.
This was unfortunately foreseeable, especially due to the lack of income (no spectators, ...), many larger and already highly indebted clubs will probably face a similar problem.

[shoreno]

Avoid the clubs that you think is not performing well but some on the list are great teams so I don’t know why do i need to avoid them where in fact I can bet with them and earn some money. Well, we all have different taste in gambling, do your own research before you bet and just enjoy the match watching it live.  

true but the op may think that the power of free kick are too powerful that it can turn the tides  but afaik free kicks are not done often right ? but this is a soccer game and its hard to score a goal due to the longer distance and faster gameplay , free kicks can really help out a team to win because its initiated closely  . one thing that i didnt knew is that free kicks are schedule before the match happens ? because i thought that free kicks can happen to both teams depending on the run of the game or if someone has a violation  .

[YOSHIE]

I saw you mention Manchester City as one of the clubs to consider.
Straight to.
What about the results of Saturday:31/10, Man City who beat S Utd in the Bramall Lane match, even though it was narrow by: {1-0} however, does Man City still have a positive assessment in this 2020 battle.
A little doubt for me about what's on your list, can you please convince into the positive.

And one more how about the club FC Barcelona, ​​it looks like there is something to try.

[bitbollo]

there are no clubs that should be avoided during a bet since each match as an history separate from the previous seen.
For sure you have listed some well know club.It means that odds are not high when playing match against small clubs.
Probably it works the strategy to save resources for valuable odds...

[yazher]

I have laughed a lot by reading the list and the comments.About Manchester United and Real Madrid together with Barcelona I think you are referring to the last two-three years because these teams some years before never lost to small teams especially Barcelona and Real Madrid.I think it all depends on the circumstances and the players each team has at its disposal.

Those teams are heavyweight in the league and they won't show any shortcomings if the opponents are an underdog. however, this is not always the case because like you said, it depends on the current situation or the player's health. sometimes the unexpected happens when you are underestimating your opponent. so, the lists it's not really legit maybe this is just his own opinion from his own experience.

[Bttzed03]

there are no clubs that should be avoided during a bet since each match as an history separate from the previous seen.

It's not entirely avoid but the OP is just giving a "warning" not to bet on these teams for reasons stated in the footnotes. Of course you are still free to bet against them.

I would be skeptical betting on Man U against any team in the EPL right now because of their past performances. I'm likely to bet on their opponent if presented with good odds.


Thanks for the chuckle @Onuohakk Enjoy your merit.