Complain about negative trust

[Iccang161096]

First, I'm so sorry I dont know what must I fill in subject so I just copy the subject from some user who has complain about theirsame problem.


I want to ask sir.
Yesterday I was given negative trust by one of the Bitcointalk forum users. I was accused of using multiple accounts, he took evidence of the same transaction on the ethereum block on etherscan.io

After that I sent an appeal on a private message to him, but he didn't reply. Then I found the thread he created and then I gave the message body and all my evidence to that thread. But unfortunately he is rarely active and my account remains in "red trust" status ..

This is the thread he created and I have sent my appeal and evidence in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122895.new#new

My question, do you have a solution so that my account can be back to normal?

[LeGaulois]

My question, do you have a solution so that my account can be back to normal?

Buy the forum, you will be able to change it and everything that pleases you

[Little Mouse]

I can't see any DT negative feedback on your profile, I have seen one from icopress which isn’t linked properly. DT feedback is neutral from coinlocket which I think fair enough to alert other people that you may own a lot of alt accounts.
Try PM icopress and get out of the tag. That’s the most you can do. Forum doesn’t moderate trust system.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I can't see any DT negative feedback on your profile, I have seen one from icopress which isn’t linked properly.

He does have one from icopress (valid dt trust) as icopress is a DT2 member. OP you just have to convince him to changed his feedback to neutral or remove it as he's the only one with the power to do that excluding theymos. Seeing that the initial accuser (speaking of coinlocket) has changed his to neutral it would be appropriate if icopress does the same unless he has alternative reason why he feels red tagged is best and not basing his judgement from coinlocket findings.

Quick advice OP, you stand a better chance appealing in the friendliest way possible If truely you're innocent any slight signs of arrogance could trigger other dt member that won't have picked interest in your situation. Alts connected and found cheating are highly frowned at and deserve the tagging punishment.

[The Cryptovator]

Now it's become quite complicated to judge connected accounts only based on transaction history. They probably sell each other or there is someone reselling. We assume they are connected but who knows the real story. It wouldn't be prohibited dealing with each other out of the forum even they use a forum account. But if there is some other link with each other like a social account or uses the same address then a red tag would be appropriate. I think coinlocket$'s neutral feedback is fine in that case.

Anyway, we can leave only our opinion, you have to explain and convince @icopress to reconsider your feedback. He is the only one who could help you because no one else can remove feedback except him. Perhaps admin could remove but most probably he wouldn't bother for such as case.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I checked his account and found no matches on social media. Moreover, I did not find any matches for wallets either. I may have been inconsiderate, but this happens very rarely.
Transaction coincidences have not been considered direct evidence of cheating for a long time. Therefore, I also suggest that @icopress make more weighty arguments against Iccang161096.
Moreover, @icopress became a member of the DT, and now his tags should be very fair. Otherwise, why was the system created?
All excuses, like, "I don't remember why I painted this and all other accounts," in my opinion, are not appropriate here.
You need to be responsible for all your actions to truly be a trusted person.
Simply putting a neutral tag is also not fair, without clear evidence.

[Iccang161096]

Now it's become quite complicated to judge connected accounts only based on transaction history. They probably sell each other or there is someone reselling. We assume they are connected but who knows the real story. It wouldn't be prohibited dealing with each other out of the forum even they use a forum account. But if there is some other link with each other like a social account or uses the same address then a red tag would be appropriate. I think coinlocket$'s neutral feedback is fine in that case.

Yes that's right sir. But in this case, the bm/dev (I dont remember who has control the distributions of reward) sent double reward for linkedin campaign to me so I sent back to dev address.

I checked his account and found no matches on social media. Moreover, I did not find any matches for wallets either. I may have been inconsiderate, but this happens very rarely.
Transaction coincidences have not been considered direct evidence of cheating for a long time. Therefore, I also suggest that @icopress make more weighty arguments against Iccang161096.
Moreover, @icopress became a member of the DT, and now his tags should be very fair. Otherwise, why was the system created?
All excuses, like, "I don't remember why I painted this and all other accounts," in my opinion, are not appropriate here.
You need to be responsible for all your actions to truly be a trusted person.
Simply putting a neutral tag is also not fair, without clear evidence.

Thank you for your opinion and done to check my account.. I really appreciate

Now just wait icopress make a argument. I think all my proof already clear here.

Thank you all for your feedback.

[icopress]

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Moreover, @icopress became a member of the DT, and now his tags should be very fair. Otherwise, why was the system created?
All excuses, like, "I don't remember why I painted this and all other accounts," in my opinion, are not appropriate here.
You need to be responsible for all your actions to truly be a trusted person.
Simply putting a neutral tag is also not fair, without clear evidence.

Yes, this happened recently, and soon I will find time to revise my review history (according to DT policy).
I will quote The Pharmacist, (These three accounts were first spotted in the MT campaign and later in the DRONE).

And I'm telling you that you're going to get very few people willing to take the time to do that, especially when it could all be faked.  Blockchain transactions can't be faked, which is why they're the only solid evidence that could link alt accounts.  See if MoneyToken is willing to look at all of the evidence you're willing to provide.  My guess is that they won't.  Since you now know the standards, I would advise you to stop sending all the funds you earn to one account.  It's a much better solution, and if you don't listen to it you risk getting tagged or continually banned from bounties.

This report presents data on the participation of Boss95rnd, Onika84, iccang161096 accounts in one bounty campaign (accounts are linked by transactions). Accounts use an intermediate address, and then transfer tokens to the main one, (the owner of the main address has a trust rating of -9). Questions about whether I know a user under the name jamalaezaz, think, are not clever.

0x400E2B1817d020094d... - Onika84          →
0x55f0F689A39D17ed9d... - iccang161096  →  0x6c7a64e816.... → 0x8420537853d.. jamalaezaz, https://archive.is/26uJR
0xb1AC9db0d6a1eC291F... - Boss95rnd       →

[notblox1]

Negative trust on your account was not given yesterday but more than one year ago.
How is it possible you didn't see this for so long?
You also have feedback from coinlocket$ about 13 other connected accounts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg48970129#msg48970129

[Veleor]

Connected accounts: Iccang161096, suryanirwana16 ^banned

BitcoinTalk Username : iccang161096
BitcoinTalk Profile Link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1074481
Telegram Username : @aryadiichsan
Twitter Username : @PutriAyyLestari
Twitter Profile Link : https://twitter.com/PutriAyyLestari
Telegram Spreadsheets : 133
Twitter Spreadsheets : 174
ETH Address : 0x55f0F689A39D17ed9db4512B2C4344739827547E

Im sorry to late report my data Sir Hope distributions running smoothly

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Sir, please input my ETH address at facebook spreadsheets, because ETH addy is empty.

My number spreadsheets for Facebook : #220
This my ETH addy : 0x55f0F689A39D17ed9db4512B2C4344739827547E

Thank's for understanding, Sir

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These both profiles participated in the BoutsPro Facebook/Twitter bounty campaigns and sent tokens to the common wallet: https://etherscan.io/token/0x139d9397274bb9e2c29a9aa8aa0b5874d30d62e3?a=0x8dcf33cc52f70ea4791cae6d5cb96d32bcf034c1

Code:

0x55f0f689a39d17ed9db4512b2c4344739827547e - Iccang161096
0xca5b158b5a36fa40164e6e0e9ea44fb18fab523f - suryanirwana16

BoutsPro bounty campaign rule: "Multiple accounts registration is not allowed. One person = one account. All the related accounts will be deleted."

[Iccang161096]

Negative trust on your account was not given yesterday but more than one year ago.
How is it possible you didn't see this for so long?
You also have feedback from coinlocket$ about 13 other connected accounts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg48970129#msg48970129

For this case, Im already appeal to coinlocket.. That's all my friends account
It's about selling token from bounty reward, so we put together the token and sell direcly. It's just for reduce withdrawal fee from an exchange/dex exchange.

Im already sent all proof to coinlocket and then they approve my appeal

These both profiles participated in the BoutsPro Facebook/Twitter bounty campaigns and sent tokens to the common wallet: https://etherscan.io/token/0x139d9397274bb9e2c29a9aa8aa0b5874d30d62e3?a=0x8dcf33cc52f70ea4791cae6d5cb96d32bcf034c1

Code:

0x55f0f689a39d17ed9db4512b2c4344739827547e - Iccang161096
0xca5b158b5a36fa40164e6e0e9ea44fb18fab523f - suryanirwana16

BoutsPro bounty campaign rule: "Multiple accounts registration is not allowed. One person = one account. All the related accounts will be deleted."

Same answer for this cas sir. Im already explain all to coinlocket

[Iccang161096]

Negative trust on your account was not given yesterday but more than one year ago.
How is it possible you didn't see this for so long?
You also have feedback from coinlocket$ about 13 other connected accounts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg48970129#msg48970129

I don't know sir, the sign had just appeared 2 days ago

[lovesmayfamilis]

I don't think it helps you. Have you read carefully all the evidence provided by Veleor?
This is a person you can trust with your eyes closed. His search showed that you were not only cheating, but also breaking the Ban evasion.

First, if suryanirwana16 also my account. Why my bounty with him not same at all?

Ban evasion.

suryanirwana16 Autoban user
Iccang161096

This my ETH addy : 0x55f0F689A39D17ed9db4512B2C4344739827547E

ETH Address : 0x55f0F689A39D17ed9db4512B2C4344739827547E

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icopress, then I would like to ask, how long will you quote others, hiding behind their name?

I will quote The Pharmacist, (These three accounts were first spotted in the MT campaign and later in the DRONE).
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[Iccang161096]

I don't think it helps you. Have you read carefully all the evidence provided by Veleor?
This is a person you can trust with your eyes closed. His search showed that you were not only cheating, but also breaking the Ban evasion.
Ban evasion.

suryanirwana16 Autoban user
Iccang161096

This my ETH addy : 0x55f0F689A39D17ed9db4512B2C4344739827547E

ETH Address : 0x55f0F689A39D17ed9db4512B2C4344739827547E

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And if the answer is icopress, then I would like to ask, how long will you quote others, hiding behind their name?

Sorry sir, I'm not hiding behind them. I only said what I had explained to Mr. Coinlocket
Everything is clear for my appeal to Mr. Coinlocket. So I must explain here again? Let me explain here if it's neccesary.

I'm sorry for my english, I'm just using google translate

*Edited*
I wanna ask, in your opinion, what Mr. Coinlocket is not trusted in handling cases in this forum? Sorry just asking

[Veleor]

[...] Same answer for this cas sir. Im already explain all to coinlocket

You were publishing bounty reports amazingly synchronously with your "friends".
In some topics, the interval between messages is less than a minute.


BUBBLETONE Interval = 14 seconds
March 04, 2018, 01:08:11 PM - Iccang161096
March 04, 2018, 01:08:25 PM - suryanirwana16 ^banned
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Vice Industry Interval = 31 seconds
March 04, 2018, 12:59:22 PM - Iccang161096
March 04, 2018, 12:59:53 PM - suryanirwana16 ^banned
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[Iccang161096]

[...] Same answer for this cas sir. Im already explain all to coinlocket

You were publishing bounty reports amazingly synchronously with your "friends".
In some topics, the interval between messages is less than a minute.


BUBBLETONE Interval = 14 seconds
March 04, 2018, 01:08:11 PM - Iccang161096
March 04, 2018, 01:08:25 PM - suryanirwana16 ^banned
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Vice Industry Interval = 31 seconds
March 04, 2018, 12:59:22 PM - Iccang161096
March 04, 2018, 12:59:53 PM - suryanirwana16 ^banned
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Okay.
First, if suryanirwana16 also my account. Why my bounty with him not same at all?

Two, if suryanirwana16 also my account. Why reward for Vice Industry bounty and Reward from Bubbletone not put together in one address after distributions?

For Vice Industries
Me : https://etherscan.io/token/0x23b75bc7aaf28e2d6628c3f424b3882f8f072a3c?a=0x55f0f689a39d17ed9db4512b2c4344739827547e
Him : https://etherscan.io/token/0x23b75bc7aaf28e2d6628c3f424b3882f8f072a3c?a=0xca5b158b5a36fa40164e6e0e9ea44fb18fab523f

For Bubbletone I dont remember this, I search on my address no tx history. Maybe this bounty not paying hunters.

[Iccang161096]

My account back to normal now.

Thank you to icopress for verifyng my appeal

[Iccang161096]

Oh no! Mr. Icopress give back negative trust..

Same problem and already make an appeal. Can someone help to tell Mr. Icopress or help me somethin? hmm :/

[lovesmayfamilis]

Oh no! Mr. Icopress give back negative trust..

Same problem and already make an appeal. Can someone help to tell Mr. Icopress or help me somethin? hmm :/

Have you been on the forum since 2017 and still can't find the time to learn about the trust system?
Mr. icopress is again selected by DT2 today. Therefore, you can only negotiate with him. And please note the date when he gave you negative trust.
Since then, he has not canceled anything.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I will quote The Pharmacist, (These three accounts were first spotted in the MT campaign and later in the DRONE).

How in the world did you find that post of mine in order to bolster your argument?  I'm impressed.

Not pooling funds into a single wallet is something every new bounty hunter ought to learn, though I doubt any mod is going to make a sticky in the Bounties section.  Anyway, this is the reason why I stopped tagging suspected bounty cheaters based on ETH address linkage.  There's enough reasonable doubt in my mind that it could be multiple people trying to save money by pooling inputs that I had to stop giving them negative trust. 

Do I always believe that story?  Hell, no.  But ultimately there's no real way to tell just by looking at the blockchain.  Icopress did the right thing in the end, IMO, so you're lucky OP.