No Voter Fraud: International Monitors Praise US Election

[squatz1]

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I do not think that there was widespread voter fraud as well, though who tf cares what other countries think regarding this.

Maybe take a look at other countries where there has been a lot of election stealing, how it was done, and what the symptoms of it were, instead of just opining. Ya think?

Ronna McDaniel Presents 131 Affidavits, 2,800 Incident Reports of Alleged Voter Fraud in MI: Media Still Demands 'Evidence'

https://pjmedia-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/pjmedia.com/election/megan-fox/2020/11/09/ronna-mcdaniel-presents-131-affidavits-2800-incident-reports-of-alleged-voter-fraud-in-mi-media-still-demands-evidence-n1134171/amp

An affidavit isn't evidence. We need concrete proof if any state results are actually going to get turned over. That being said, it still warrants investigation.

And liberals should want investigations. If they are confident that Joe Biden was legitimately elected, let the investigations turn up nothing so that there isn't any doubt on the legitimacy of Biden's win.

On surface level, Biden taking the lead in numerous states after a dump of mail ins at 4 AM does seem weird.

Yeah, we're going to need a real investigation and for courts to decide things. One person just alleging something, even if it's sworn, really means nothing without any other sort of supporting evidence.

We truly do need investigations if allegations are credible, but if they're not and people are just angry because their candidate lost then we're really not getting anywhere as a nation.

But yeah in regards to Biden just catching up, that's understandable given absentee ballots.

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[Gyfts]

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I do not think that there was widespread voter fraud as well, though who tf cares what other countries think regarding this.

Maybe take a look at other countries where there has been a lot of election stealing, how it was done, and what the symptoms of it were, instead of just opining. Ya think?

Ronna McDaniel Presents 131 Affidavits, 2,800 Incident Reports of Alleged Voter Fraud in MI: Media Still Demands 'Evidence'

https://pjmedia-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/pjmedia.com/election/megan-fox/2020/11/09/ronna-mcdaniel-presents-131-affidavits-2800-incident-reports-of-alleged-voter-fraud-in-mi-media-still-demands-evidence-n1134171/amp

An affidavit isn't evidence. We need concrete proof if any state results are actually going to get turned over. That being said, it still warrants investigation.

And liberals should want investigations. If they are confident that Joe Biden was legitimately elected, let the investigations turn up nothing so that there isn't any doubt on the legitimacy of Biden's win.

On surface level, Biden taking the lead in numerous states after a dump of mail ins at 4 AM does seem weird.

A sworn affidavit is evidence. As for "we need concrete proof", etc, etc; there are legal processes in place that need to run their course.

Liberals don't want this. They are scared to death that some of their cheaters and liars are dumb fucks and are going to get found out. That's why they are trying to create a dominating narrative right now that the winner is already chosen "by the media."

Lol, it simply doesn't work that way.

Sworn affidavits are not evidence. There was a story of some poll watcher that witnessed tempering who had a sworn affidavit and he openly admitted he made up his voter fraud story.

To your point though, the media made up their mind as Joe being the winner prior to the election. Fine folks at CNN would have a COVID-19 death counter during their news coverage. Now that Biden is the projected President elect, that counter is magically gone. Almost like they were trying to fear monger or something. Crazy.

[sirazimuth]

Some of the suits filed on Trump's behalf appear to be hastily thrown together,
with spelling errors (“ballet” for “ballot”), procedural mistakes and little to back up their claims.
Judges have been skeptical.

Lol. Apparently his crack team of lawyers can’t spell either.
Sounds about right for the impotus clown show failing miserably to push the  voter fraud narrative.
That might have something to do with.... you know… zero evidence?
I wonder if they also tweet laughable lunacy with the caps lock key stuck on.

[Dorodha]

I don't think this vote was rigged within the case of electoral votes the probabilities of fraud are less. Trump's defeat has led to allegations of vote rigging without evidence from the Trump camp. the Supreme Court is interfering within the final results of the election but this point the campaign team of both parties has informed that they need already started preparations for a legal battle after the election. Both parties have formed an outsized team of lawyers to fight the legal challenge of counting votes. These legal challenges could eventually cause the Supreme Court America's highest legal authority.

[squatz1]

Sworn affidavits are not evidence. There was a story of some poll watcher that witnessed tempering who had a sworn affidavit and he openly admitted he made up his voter fraud story.

To your point though, the media made up their mind as Joe being the winner prior to the election. Fine folks at CNN would have a COVID-19 death counter during their news coverage. Now that Biden is the projected President elect, that counter is magically gone. Almost like they were trying to fear monger or something. Crazy.

Not surprising to be honest in regards to the poll watcher lying about what they saw. It's an easy way to immediately become a conservative sensation right now. You also may get some money from people as a reward for being brave enough to speak up and lie about what you saw (hint: you were brave enough to lie)

Like anything else with explosive allegations of fraud, you're going to have to be the one to prove that all of this happened and a court is going to have to side with you. Really doesn't matter if the courts lean one way or another politically because they're not going to change their standard of evidence to suit you.

Some of the suits filed on Trump's behalf appear to be hastily thrown together,
with spelling errors (“ballet” for “ballot”), procedural mistakes and little to back up their claims.
Judges have been skeptical.

Lol. Apparently his crack team of lawyers can’t spell either.
Sounds about right for the impotus clown show failing miserably to push the  voter fraud narrative.
That might have something to do with.... you know… zero evidence?
I wonder if they also tweet laughable lunacy with the caps lock key stuck on.

Not surprising given the fact that they're probably being thrown all around the US to do this sort of thing.

Nothing of substance has come out of this though. At least up to now.

[JollyGood]

As I was reading what you wrote it seemed like something copied off a news website in the away it is written but you are right, the vote was not rigged. Trump received more votes than he did in 2016 but Biden got more, it is a fact Biden won the popular vote as well as the electoral college and many of those were simply protest votes against Trump and his administration and not because they liked Biden - it might have been case of choosing the lesser of two evils with an anybody-but-Trump mindset as far as some voters were concerned.

I don't think this vote was rigged within the case of electoral votes the probabilities of fraud are less. Trump's defeat has led to allegations of vote rigging without evidence from the Trump camp. the Supreme Court is interfering within the final results of the election but this point the campaign team of both parties has informed that they need already started preparations for a legal battle after the election. Both parties have formed an outsized team of lawyers to fight the legal challenge of counting votes. These legal challenges could eventually cause the Supreme Court America's highest legal authority.

[squatz1]

As I was reading what you wrote it seemed like something copied off a news website in the away it is written but you are right, the vote was not rigged. Trump received more votes than he did in 2016 but Biden got more, it is a fact Biden won the popular vote as well as the electoral college and many of those were simply protest votes against Trump and his administration and not because they liked Biden - it might have been case of choosing the lesser of two evils with an anybody-but-Trump mindset as far as some voters were concerned.

I don't think this vote was rigged within the case of electoral votes the probabilities of fraud are less. Trump's defeat has led to allegations of vote rigging without evidence from the Trump camp. the Supreme Court is interfering within the final results of the election but this point the campaign team of both parties has informed that they need already started preparations for a legal battle after the election. Both parties have formed an outsized team of lawyers to fight the legal challenge of counting votes. These legal challenges could eventually cause the Supreme Court America's highest legal authority.

Pretty large amount of people think this way by the way -- regarding the whole, voting for anyone who isn't Trump. That's a lot of what the Democratic vote was this time around. No one really loves Biden as a candidate, as he really is a moderate democrat who is pretty old in his ways to be leading a party that seems to be going down a VERY different path. He is not a progressive by any means, doesn't matter who he surrounds himself with to appease others.

Trump couldn't convince the same Dems who voted for Obama to vote for him this time around, as they really didn't see a lot of change in their way of life -- manufacturing, etc.

[Spendulus]

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Trump couldn't convince the same Dems who voted for Obama to vote for him this time around, as they really didn't see a lot of change in their way of life -- manufacturing, etc.

No of course not, the 30% of Blacks that voted for him, the >30% of hispanics that voted for him...

wait...

[KingScorpio]

According a BBC News article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-us-2020-54886025

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A team of international monitors from the Organization of American States (OAS) has praised the conduct of the US election.

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these "international" organisations are biased and frauded same like bbc is, they are pro sellout of america to third world migrants they have no trustworthy voice as doesn't the bbc

So high for you to say that they are fraud. Can you give us some documents that will support your claims, any solid evidence?
If there's no, then you're the one who is fraud. You're the one misguiding and misinforming people about your very opinion about a topic. Just because their news/articles doesn't tick your taste, then they're already a fraud.

Trump needs to stop his conveyor belt churning out line after line of misinformation.

The fact that election fraud is even being discussed is absurd. All we have is one man shouting "fraud!" whilst supplying zero evidence. The fact that he is POTUS is irrelevant; he still needs to supply evidence of fraud, or of rules not being followed, or even of suspicious behaviour....

I think you need to substantiate your own assertions there. Or not.

Why should anyone believe what you are saying?

he already gave enough information about his stand on his topic stated. There is no need for further elaboration when in fact, his statement only states that Trump must give solid evidence/proof that will support his claims. Trump needs to grow up and accept what the people have voted for. This is democracy in the first place.

uhm jes these "international organisation" went to developed western countries (not china) and demanded from them to pay for the choronacrisis in the third world, although they had nothing to do with it.

they have no respect for sovereignty, these socialists want everyone as their slave until the entire world is a jungle. and people don't speak the same langauge anymore.

[Gyfts]

Apparently, on the basis of nothing, we now have a situation where 70 percent of Republicans don’t think the election was free and fair. This is farcical.

None of this is new. Something like 2/3 democrats thought that Russians had actually affected voter rolls (which is literally impossible) following the 2016 election.

Not only was Russian interference overplayed, democrats were insane enough to think that voters were not tabulated properly and that physical hacking of voting systems caused Trump to take an advantage.

And if we're being technical, this election was not "fair". Democrats, if they're being honest, should admit this too. Universal mail in voting is an issue, but setting that aside, the media was absurdly bias. Twitter/Facebook censoring the Hunter Biden story is big tech putting their finger on the scale.

The MSM didn't help either. Great example here - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/live-blog/2020-10-22-trump-biden-election-n1244210/ncrd1244450

NBC news literally fact checked a story about the stock market if Biden were to win...Ahh yes, NBC news predicting the future of the stock market and then "fact" checking it as if they can see the future. Completely neutral, guys. Surely they would have done the same to benefit Trump when fact checking Biden on his brain dead Green New deal plan.

[Spendulus]

...Ahh yes, NBC news predicting the future of the stock market and then "fact" checking it as if they can see the future. Completely neutral, guys. Surely they would have done the same to benefit Trump when fact checking Biden on his brain dead Green New deal plan.

 Completely neutral? Media doing something to benefit Trump?

Are you fucking nuts?

[squatz1]

Apparently, on the basis of nothing, we now have a situation where 70 percent of Republicans don’t think the election was free and fair. This is farcical.

None of this is new. Something like 2/3 democrats thought that Russians had actually affected voter rolls (which is literally impossible) following the 2016 election.

Not only was Russian interference overplayed, democrats were insane enough to think that voters were not tabulated properly and that physical hacking of voting systems caused Trump to take an advantage.

And if we're being technical, this election was not "fair". Democrats, if they're being honest, should admit this too. Universal mail in voting is an issue, but setting that aside, the media was absurdly bias. Twitter/Facebook censoring the Hunter Biden story is big tech putting their finger on the scale.

The MSM didn't help either. Great example here - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/live-blog/2020-10-22-trump-biden-election-n1244210/ncrd1244450

NBC news literally fact checked a story about the stock market if Biden were to win...Ahh yes, NBC news predicting the future of the stock market and then "fact" checking it as if they can see the future. Completely neutral, guys. Surely they would have done the same to benefit Trump when fact checking Biden on his brain dead Green New deal plan.

Yeah, this is kind of what people thought after 2016 -- though to a lesser degree in 2016, because there wasn't any information at the time. I really don't fully understand the claims regarding Russia influencing the actual votes, as none of that happened. Russia (and other countries) influenced the election by posing as fake people online, buying ads, and so on and so forth.

No actual votes were denied or fake votes gotten through because of Russian interference. Which is a really dumb thing for people to think IMO.

NBC on the stock market story kinda makes sense to put out. Though they could've leaned more on the fact that academic researchers have said that stock market returns under both D and R is typically around the same.

[KingScorpio]

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Trump couldn't convince the same Dems who voted for Obama to vote for him this time around, as they really didn't see a lot of change in their way of life -- manufacturing, etc.

No of course not, the 30% of Blacks that voted for him, the >30% of hispanics that voted for him...

wait...

only black racists vote for the democrats

republicans are becoming the party of the true americans, democrats the party of the traitors and the selloffs.

this is my lucky post nr. 7777

[BADecker]

This is the one chance they will have at tearing down the USA. If they lose their chance here, the people will have been warned, and will be more careful next time.


The Media Know There Was Vote Fraud So Why Do The Presstitutes Deny The Obvious?

If the presstitutes are so confident that there is no evidence to back the legal challenges, why are the prostitutes working overtime to discredit the challenges in advance?  All presstitutes are in denial that there is any evidence of fraud.  Why not just wait for the challenges to fail? Why all the whistling in the dark?

The Boston Globe, for example, claims that no election officials doubt the validity of the vote and that Trump "has launched a series of long-shot legal challenges in several state aimed at casting doubt on election results, despite no evidence of voter fraud."

Even the financial news site, Bloomberg, has falsely declared that there is "no evidence of wrongdoing."  How can the media know until the charges are investigated?

If fraud is not a possibility, why has the Georgia Secretary of State ordered a hand recount of the presidential race?

[Spendulus]

According a BBC News article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-us-2020-54886025

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A team of international monitors from the Organization of American States (OAS) has praised the conduct of the US election....

Was that before or after they got the visit from Hunter's crack whores?

[Slow death]

I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.

it's ridiculous how these international monitors work

[BADecker]

Now we are finding that it is 100% vote fraud by the Biden support team, against Trump - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5270910.msg55589528#msg55589528.

[Spendulus]

I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.

it's ridiculous how these international monitors work

Note that none of the liberal posters to this forum has said a thing to your post.

[Mauser]

I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.

it's ridiculous how these international monitors work

Same for me, I live abroad and all the information I get is from the Internet. I am trying to be critical as much as possible and always ask myself if there is any hidden motivation behind the current results. It's definitely hard to judge from afar. But what I do find curious is that 4 years ago when Trump won the election, many were screaming that election was rigged and influenced by Russian hackers. But right now none if these arguments are being made. So when the republicans win it's all fake, and when the Democrats win everything is legit? Doesn't seem right to me.

[JollyGood]

I guess it shows a lot about the state of a country when voters have a choice of the same old for another 4 years or the lesser of two evils but that same scenario is playing out in almost every so-called democracy all over the world. Voters really did not connect with Hillary Clinton in 2016 and all the poll forecasts were turned on their heads when Trump won because some of the blue states won by the Obama administration turned red and handed victory to Trump even though Hillary won the popular vote.

Something went wrong for Trump this time round even though he did receive several million more votes than in 2016. It was just that the Democrats connected with voters in a way that has not happened for a long time especially by encouraging nobody to waste a single vote and vote by mail if necessary instead of going to the voting stations whereas Trump was actively telling supports to avoid votes by mail.

As I was reading what you wrote it seemed like something copied off a news website in the away it is written but you are right, the vote was not rigged. Trump received more votes than he did in 2016 but Biden got more, it is a fact Biden won the popular vote as well as the electoral college and many of those were simply protest votes against Trump and his administration and not because they liked Biden - it might have been case of choosing the lesser of two evils with an anybody-but-Trump mindset as far as some voters were concerned.

Pretty large amount of people think this way by the way -- regarding the whole, voting for anyone who isn't Trump. That's a lot of what the Democratic vote was this time around. No one really loves Biden as a candidate, as he really is a moderate democrat who is pretty old in his ways to be leading a party that seems to be going down a VERY different path. He is not a progressive by any means, doesn't matter who he surrounds himself with to appease others.

Trump couldn't convince the same Dems who voted for Obama to vote for him this time around, as they really didn't see a lot of change in their way of life -- manufacturing, etc.