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November 10, 2020, 03:02:37 PM
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According a BBC News article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-us-2020-54886025

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A team of international monitors from the Organization of American States (OAS) has praised the conduct of the US election.

The delegation - which had 28 experts and observers from 13 countries - said in its preliminary report: "While the environment of the elections was competitive and fraught, the ability of voters across the country to access the vote in less than ideal circumstances exemplifies the democracy for which the United States is renowned and which it has championed across the globe.

"The OAS Mission urges all political parties, candidates and citizens to allow this democracy to prevail and to allow the remainder of the electoral process to unfold within the framework of the law."

The monitors were able to follow campaigning events and the voting itself on 3 November in several locations, including the key battleground states of Georgia and Michigan.

They said they did not witness any irregularities there, responding to President Trump's claims that the Democrats had tried to steal the elections.

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So with in mind and with all legally counted ballots counted, exactly why is Trump behaving like an immature brat? I mean to read that international observers have found no evidence of foul play is another why the narcissist known as Trump needs to stop his conveyor belt churning out line after line of misinformation.

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November 10, 2020, 03:12:10 PM
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As such, time to export "democracy" to those country? To first plunge them in massive civil war, or simply buy off the whole media operations there to have our (S)elected candidate in place and make of those little colonies for extraction?

your call, mate.

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November 10, 2020, 03:14:48 PM
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As someone that doesn't think there was any fraud, an international group that has fuck all to do with U.S. elections "watching" an election overseas is dodgy and makes me have less faith that there wasn't fraud.

"International monitor" for a U.S. election sounds like an oxymoron.
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November 11, 2020, 11:19:21 AM
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Trump needs to stop his conveyor belt churning out line after line of misinformation.

The fact that election fraud is even being discussed is absurd. All we have is one man shouting "fraud!" whilst supplying zero evidence. The fact that he is POTUS is irrelevant; he still needs to supply evidence of fraud, or of rules not being followed, or even of suspicious behaviour. He had representatives at the count. They need to explain why they think fraud was committed. Less shouting and foot-stamping, more facts, please.

If you claim something happened, and then fail to explain why you think it happened, then your claim should be dismissed. Doesn't matter who you are.
The fact that this 'fraud' is even being discussed is quite revealing of the way that society functions, and how powerful people operate, and how the democratic process has been eroded.

Apparently, on the basis of nothing, we now have a situation where 70 percent of Republicans don’t think the election was free and fair. This is farcical.






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November 11, 2020, 03:31:00 PM
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According to the Guardian news website:  "A postal worker whose allegations of ballot tampering are the basis of Republican calls for investigations has reportedly recanted his story"

If that was the best some the of Republicans could come up with trying to prolong the acceptance of defeat in the election, then they really should have had a better strategy in the event they lost but they never thought about that because they were so sure they would won.

Full story here: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/10/us-postal-worker-recants-voter-fraud-claims-after-republicans-call-for-inquiry


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November 11, 2020, 04:14:10 PM
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Trump needs to stop his conveyor belt churning out line after line of misinformation.

The fact that election fraud is even being discussed is absurd. All we have is one man shouting "fraud!" whilst supplying zero evidence. The fact that he is POTUS is irrelevant; he still needs to supply evidence of fraud, or of rules not being followed, or even of suspicious behaviour....


I think you need to substantiate your own assertions there. Or not.

Why should anyone believe what you are saying?
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According a BBC News article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-us-2020-54886025

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A team of international monitors from the Organization of American States (OAS) has praised the conduct of the US election.

The delegation - which had 28 experts and observers from 13 countries - said in its preliminary report: "While the environment of the elections was competitive and fraught, the ability of voters across the country to access the vote in less than ideal circumstances exemplifies the democracy for which the United States is renowned and which it has championed across the globe.

"The OAS Mission urges all political parties, candidates and citizens to allow this democracy to prevail and to allow the remainder of the electoral process to unfold within the framework of the law."

The monitors were able to follow campaigning events and the voting itself on 3 November in several locations, including the key battleground states of Georgia and Michigan.

They said they did not witness any irregularities there, responding to President Trump's claims that the Democrats had tried to steal the elections.

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So with in mind and with all legally counted ballots counted, exactly why is Trump behaving like an immature brat? I mean to read that international observers have found no evidence of foul play is another why the narcissist known as Trump needs to stop his conveyor belt churning out line after line of misinformation.

these "international" organisations are biased and frauded same like bbc is, they are pro sellout of america to third world migrants they have no trustworthy voice as doesn't the bbc

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As someone that doesn't think there was any fraud, an international group that has fuck all to do with U.S. elections "watching" an election overseas is dodgy and makes me have less faith that there wasn't fraud.

"International monitor" for a U.S. election sounds like an oxymoron.

i wouldn't trust international organisations, they want a selloff of america to the rest of the world, they will side with the corrupt democrats till all americans are slaves.

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November 11, 2020, 05:39:39 PM
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According a BBC News article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-us-2020-54886025

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A team of international monitors from the Organization of American States (OAS) has praised the conduct of the US election.

~~SNIP~~

these "international" organisations are biased and frauded same like bbc is, they are pro sellout of america to third world migrants they have no trustworthy voice as doesn't the bbc

So high for you to say that they are fraud. Can you give us some documents that will support your claims, any solid evidence?
If there's no, then you're the one who is fraud. You're the one misguiding and misinforming people about your very opinion about a topic. Just because their news/articles doesn't tick your taste, then they're already a fraud.

Trump needs to stop his conveyor belt churning out line after line of misinformation.

The fact that election fraud is even being discussed is absurd. All we have is one man shouting "fraud!" whilst supplying zero evidence. The fact that he is POTUS is irrelevant; he still needs to supply evidence of fraud, or of rules not being followed, or even of suspicious behaviour....


I think you need to substantiate your own assertions there. Or not.

Why should anyone believe what you are saying?

he already gave enough information about his stand on his topic stated. There is no need for further elaboration when in fact, his statement only states that Trump must give solid evidence/proof that will support his claims. Trump needs to grow up and accept what the people have voted for. This is democracy in the first place.

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he already gave enough information about his stand on his topic stated. There is no need for further elaboration when in fact, his statement only states that Trump must give solid evidence/proof that will support his claims. Trump needs to grow up and accept what the people have voted for. This is democracy in the first place.

No, Cnut's claims are baseless lies.

It's easy enough to figure it. Ever heard of Google?
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November 11, 2020, 06:13:24 PM
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As someone that doesn't think there was any fraud, an international group that has fuck all to do with U.S. elections "watching" an election overseas is dodgy and makes me have less faith that there wasn't fraud.

"International monitor" for a U.S. election sounds like an oxymoron.

+1 to at least the first portion of this.

No reason for international monitors to say much here. It's not like we have international groups in state election boards ensuring that everything is on the up and up. That really wouldn't make much sense at all to be honest. The only people who would most likely have reports are fraud are going to be those working at the USPS, those working at state election boards, and county election boards. That's really it.

This is literally just a random thing to hit the news.

I do not think that there was widespread voter fraud as well, though who tf cares what other countries think regarding this.




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November 11, 2020, 06:18:21 PM
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The Dems are so smart. Look at what is happening. US Attorney General Barr is going to investigate vote fraud.

What if he finds that all the presidential elections since 1980 were fraudulent? What if he finds that Trump didn't really win 2016? What if he finds that it was a glitch in the vote fraud that gave the election to Trump 4 years ago? Think of what that means.

None of the presidential actions since way back would be legal. The whole country would have been existing without a US government for all those years. All that exists is the industrial complex which is upholding a military that isn't the US Gov military.

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I do not think that there was widespread voter fraud as well, though who tf cares what other countries think regarding this.

Maybe take a look at other countries where there has been a lot of election stealing, how it was done, and what the symptoms of it were, instead of just opining. Ya think?

Ronna McDaniel Presents 131 Affidavits, 2,800 Incident Reports of Alleged Voter Fraud in MI: Media Still Demands 'Evidence'

https://pjmedia-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/pjmedia.com/election/megan-fox/2020/11/09/ronna-mcdaniel-presents-131-affidavits-2800-incident-reports-of-alleged-voter-fraud-in-mi-media-still-demands-evidence-n1134171/amp
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November 11, 2020, 10:31:07 PM
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According a BBC News article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-us-2020-54886025

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A team of international monitors from the Organization of American States (OAS) has praised the conduct of the US election.

~~SNIP~~

these "international" organisations are biased and frauded same like bbc is, they are pro sellout of america to third world migrants they have no trustworthy voice as doesn't the bbc

So high for you to say that they are fraud. Can you give us some documents that will support your claims, any solid evidence?
If there's no, then you're the one who is fraud. You're the one misguiding and misinforming people about your very opinion about a topic. Just because their news/articles doesn't tick your taste, then they're already a fraud.

Trump needs to stop his conveyor belt churning out line after line of misinformation.

The fact that election fraud is even being discussed is absurd. All we have is one man shouting "fraud!" whilst supplying zero evidence. The fact that he is POTUS is irrelevant; he still needs to supply evidence of fraud, or of rules not being followed, or even of suspicious behaviour....


I think you need to substantiate your own assertions there. Or not.

Why should anyone believe what you are saying?

he already gave enough information about his stand on his topic stated. There is no need for further elaboration when in fact, his statement only states that Trump must give solid evidence/proof that will support his claims. Trump needs to grow up and accept what the people have voted for. This is democracy in the first place.

they are a fraud, they are democratic and socialist, anti white, they end up all desirering the socialist candidate in the rich west and install there a puppet to sell the west out to the third world

therefore us should dissolve the UN, its not its friend

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I do not think that there was widespread voter fraud as well, though who tf cares what other countries think regarding this.

Maybe take a look at other countries where there has been a lot of election stealing, how it was done, and what the symptoms of it were, instead of just opining. Ya think?

Ronna McDaniel Presents 131 Affidavits, 2,800 Incident Reports of Alleged Voter Fraud in MI: Media Still Demands 'Evidence'

https://pjmedia-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/pjmedia.com/election/megan-fox/2020/11/09/ronna-mcdaniel-presents-131-affidavits-2800-incident-reports-of-alleged-voter-fraud-in-mi-media-still-demands-evidence-n1134171/amp

An affidavit isn't evidence. We need concrete proof if any state results are actually going to get turned over. That being said, it still warrants investigation.

And liberals should want investigations. If they are confident that Joe Biden was legitimately elected, let the investigations turn up nothing so that there isn't any doubt on the legitimacy of Biden's win.

On surface level, Biden taking the lead in numerous states after a dump of mail ins at 4 AM does seem weird.
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I do not think that there was widespread voter fraud as well, though who tf cares what other countries think regarding this.

Maybe take a look at other countries where there has been a lot of election stealing, how it was done, and what the symptoms of it were, instead of just opining. Ya think?

Ronna McDaniel Presents 131 Affidavits, 2,800 Incident Reports of Alleged Voter Fraud in MI: Media Still Demands 'Evidence'

https://pjmedia-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/pjmedia.com/election/megan-fox/2020/11/09/ronna-mcdaniel-presents-131-affidavits-2800-incident-reports-of-alleged-voter-fraud-in-mi-media-still-demands-evidence-n1134171/amp

An affidavit isn't evidence. We need concrete proof if any state results are actually going to get turned over. That being said, it still warrants investigation.

And liberals should want investigations. If they are confident that Joe Biden was legitimately elected, let the investigations turn up nothing so that there isn't any doubt on the legitimacy of Biden's win.

On surface level, Biden taking the lead in numerous states after a dump of mail ins at 4 AM does seem weird.
A sworn affidavit is evidence. As for "we need concrete proof", etc, etc; there are legal processes in place that need to run their course.

Liberals don't want this. They are scared to death that some of their cheaters and liars are dumb fucks and are going to get found out. That's why they are trying to create a dominating narrative right now that the winner is already chosen "by the media."

Lol, it simply doesn't work that way.

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I do not think that there was widespread voter fraud as well, though who tf cares what other countries think regarding this.

Maybe take a look at other countries where there has been a lot of election stealing, how it was done, and what the symptoms of it were, instead of just opining. Ya think?

Ronna McDaniel Presents 131 Affidavits, 2,800 Incident Reports of Alleged Voter Fraud in MI: Media Still Demands 'Evidence'

https://pjmedia-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/pjmedia.com/election/megan-fox/2020/11/09/ronna-mcdaniel-presents-131-affidavits-2800-incident-reports-of-alleged-voter-fraud-in-mi-media-still-demands-evidence-n1134171/amp

An affidavit isn't evidence. We need concrete proof if any state results are actually going to get turned over. That being said, it still warrants investigation.

And liberals should want investigations. If they are confident that Joe Biden was legitimately elected, let the investigations turn up nothing so that there isn't any doubt on the legitimacy of Biden's win.

On surface level, Biden taking the lead in numerous states after a dump of mail ins at 4 AM does seem weird.

the left has nothing to do with liberalism or progressivism, why else would they call to defund the police? the left is invested by racists, that carry that banner with the black fist.

people are right to vote for trump to strike down on these people, these people try to justify their agenda in the name of anti racism.... but they don't look in the mirror

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Right
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Neither side wants

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What does this really mean? Need to read between the lines in the article to see.


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I do not think that there was widespread voter fraud as well, though who tf cares what other countries think regarding this.

Maybe take a look at other countries where there has been a lot of election stealing, how it was done, and what the symptoms of it were, instead of just opining. Ya think?

Ronna McDaniel Presents 131 Affidavits, 2,800 Incident Reports of Alleged Voter Fraud in MI: Media Still Demands 'Evidence'

https://pjmedia-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/pjmedia.com/election/megan-fox/2020/11/09/ronna-mcdaniel-presents-131-affidavits-2800-incident-reports-of-alleged-voter-fraud-in-mi-media-still-demands-evidence-n1134171/amp

An affidavit isn't evidence. We need concrete proof if any state results are actually going to get turned over. That being said, it still warrants investigation.

And liberals should want investigations. If they are confident that Joe Biden was legitimately elected, let the investigations turn up nothing so that there isn't any doubt on the legitimacy of Biden's win.

On surface level, Biden taking the lead in numerous states after a dump of mail ins at 4 AM does seem weird.

Yeah, we're going to need a real investigation and for courts to decide things. One person just alleging something, even if it's sworn, really means nothing without any other sort of supporting evidence.

We truly do need investigations if allegations are credible, but if they're not and people are just angry because their candidate lost then we're really not getting anywhere as a nation.

But yeah in regards to Biden just catching up, that's understandable given absentee ballots.




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I do not think that there was widespread voter fraud as well, though who tf cares what other countries think regarding this.

Maybe take a look at other countries where there has been a lot of election stealing, how it was done, and what the symptoms of it were, instead of just opining. Ya think?

Ronna McDaniel Presents 131 Affidavits, 2,800 Incident Reports of Alleged Voter Fraud in MI: Media Still Demands 'Evidence'

https://pjmedia-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/pjmedia.com/election/megan-fox/2020/11/09/ronna-mcdaniel-presents-131-affidavits-2800-incident-reports-of-alleged-voter-fraud-in-mi-media-still-demands-evidence-n1134171/amp

An affidavit isn't evidence. We need concrete proof if any state results are actually going to get turned over. That being said, it still warrants investigation.

And liberals should want investigations. If they are confident that Joe Biden was legitimately elected, let the investigations turn up nothing so that there isn't any doubt on the legitimacy of Biden's win.

On surface level, Biden taking the lead in numerous states after a dump of mail ins at 4 AM does seem weird.
A sworn affidavit is evidence. As for "we need concrete proof", etc, etc; there are legal processes in place that need to run their course.

Liberals don't want this. They are scared to death that some of their cheaters and liars are dumb fucks and are going to get found out. That's why they are trying to create a dominating narrative right now that the winner is already chosen "by the media."

Lol, it simply doesn't work that way.



Sworn affidavits are not evidence. There was a story of some poll watcher that witnessed tempering who had a sworn affidavit and he openly admitted he made up his voter fraud story.

To your point though, the media made up their mind as Joe being the winner prior to the election. Fine folks at CNN would have a COVID-19 death counter during their news coverage. Now that Biden is the projected President elect, that counter is magically gone. Almost like they were trying to fear monger or something. Crazy.
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Judges have been skeptical.


Lol. Apparently his crack team of lawyers can’t spell either.
Sounds about right for the impotus clown show failing miserably to push the  voter fraud narrative.
That might have something to do with.... you know… zero evidence?
I wonder if they also tweet laughable lunacy with the caps lock key stuck on.

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I don't think this vote was rigged within the case of electoral votes the probabilities of fraud are less. Trump's defeat has led to allegations of vote rigging without evidence from the Trump camp. the Supreme Court is interfering within the final results of the election but this point the campaign team of both parties has informed that they need already started preparations for a legal battle after the election. Both parties have formed an outsized team of lawyers to fight the legal challenge of counting votes. These legal challenges could eventually cause the Supreme Court America's highest legal authority.
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Sworn affidavits are not evidence. There was a story of some poll watcher that witnessed tempering who had a sworn affidavit and he openly admitted he made up his voter fraud story.

To your point though, the media made up their mind as Joe being the winner prior to the election. Fine folks at CNN would have a COVID-19 death counter during their news coverage. Now that Biden is the projected President elect, that counter is magically gone. Almost like they were trying to fear monger or something. Crazy.

Not surprising to be honest in regards to the poll watcher lying about what they saw. It's an easy way to immediately become a conservative sensation right now. You also may get some money from people as a reward for being brave enough to speak up and lie about what you saw (hint: you were brave enough to lie)

Like anything else with explosive allegations of fraud, you're going to have to be the one to prove that all of this happened and a court is going to have to side with you. Really doesn't matter if the courts lean one way or another politically because they're not going to change their standard of evidence to suit you.

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Some of the suits filed on Trump's behalf appear to be hastily thrown together,
with spelling errors (“ballet” for “ballot”), procedural mistakes and little to back up their claims.
Judges have been skeptical.


Lol. Apparently his crack team of lawyers can’t spell either.
Sounds about right for the impotus clown show failing miserably to push the  voter fraud narrative.
That might have something to do with.... you know… zero evidence?
I wonder if they also tweet laughable lunacy with the caps lock key stuck on.

Not surprising given the fact that they're probably being thrown all around the US to do this sort of thing.

Nothing of substance has come out of this though. At least up to now.





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As I was reading what you wrote it seemed like something copied off a news website in the away it is written but you are right, the vote was not rigged. Trump received more votes than he did in 2016 but Biden got more, it is a fact Biden won the popular vote as well as the electoral college and many of those were simply protest votes against Trump and his administration and not because they liked Biden - it might have been case of choosing the lesser of two evils with an anybody-but-Trump mindset as far as some voters were concerned.

I don't think this vote was rigged within the case of electoral votes the probabilities of fraud are less. Trump's defeat has led to allegations of vote rigging without evidence from the Trump camp. the Supreme Court is interfering within the final results of the election but this point the campaign team of both parties has informed that they need already started preparations for a legal battle after the election. Both parties have formed an outsized team of lawyers to fight the legal challenge of counting votes. These legal challenges could eventually cause the Supreme Court America's highest legal authority.

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As I was reading what you wrote it seemed like something copied off a news website in the away it is written but you are right, the vote was not rigged. Trump received more votes than he did in 2016 but Biden got more, it is a fact Biden won the popular vote as well as the electoral college and many of those were simply protest votes against Trump and his administration and not because they liked Biden - it might have been case of choosing the lesser of two evils with an anybody-but-Trump mindset as far as some voters were concerned.

I don't think this vote was rigged within the case of electoral votes the probabilities of fraud are less. Trump's defeat has led to allegations of vote rigging without evidence from the Trump camp. the Supreme Court is interfering within the final results of the election but this point the campaign team of both parties has informed that they need already started preparations for a legal battle after the election. Both parties have formed an outsized team of lawyers to fight the legal challenge of counting votes. These legal challenges could eventually cause the Supreme Court America's highest legal authority.

Pretty large amount of people think this way by the way -- regarding the whole, voting for anyone who isn't Trump. That's a lot of what the Democratic vote was this time around. No one really loves Biden as a candidate, as he really is a moderate democrat who is pretty old in his ways to be leading a party that seems to be going down a VERY different path. He is not a progressive by any means, doesn't matter who he surrounds himself with to appease others.

Trump couldn't convince the same Dems who voted for Obama to vote for him this time around, as they really didn't see a lot of change in their way of life -- manufacturing, etc.




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Trump couldn't convince the same Dems who voted for Obama to vote for him this time around, as they really didn't see a lot of change in their way of life -- manufacturing, etc.

No of course not, the 30% of Blacks that voted for him, the >30% of hispanics that voted for him...

wait...
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According a BBC News article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-us-2020-54886025

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~~SNIP~~

these "international" organisations are biased and frauded same like bbc is, they are pro sellout of america to third world migrants they have no trustworthy voice as doesn't the bbc

So high for you to say that they are fraud. Can you give us some documents that will support your claims, any solid evidence?
If there's no, then you're the one who is fraud. You're the one misguiding and misinforming people about your very opinion about a topic. Just because their news/articles doesn't tick your taste, then they're already a fraud.

Trump needs to stop his conveyor belt churning out line after line of misinformation.

The fact that election fraud is even being discussed is absurd. All we have is one man shouting "fraud!" whilst supplying zero evidence. The fact that he is POTUS is irrelevant; he still needs to supply evidence of fraud, or of rules not being followed, or even of suspicious behaviour....


I think you need to substantiate your own assertions there. Or not.

Why should anyone believe what you are saying?

he already gave enough information about his stand on his topic stated. There is no need for further elaboration when in fact, his statement only states that Trump must give solid evidence/proof that will support his claims. Trump needs to grow up and accept what the people have voted for. This is democracy in the first place.

uhm jes these "international organisation" went to developed western countries (not china) and demanded from them to pay for the choronacrisis in the third world, although they had nothing to do with it.

they have no respect for sovereignty, these socialists want everyone as their slave until the entire world is a jungle. and people don't speak the same langauge anymore.

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Apparently, on the basis of nothing, we now have a situation where 70 percent of Republicans don’t think the election was free and fair. This is farcical.


None of this is new. Something like 2/3 democrats thought that Russians had actually affected voter rolls (which is literally impossible) following the 2016 election.

Not only was Russian interference overplayed, democrats were insane enough to think that voters were not tabulated properly and that physical hacking of voting systems caused Trump to take an advantage.

And if we're being technical, this election was not "fair". Democrats, if they're being honest, should admit this too. Universal mail in voting is an issue, but setting that aside, the media was absurdly bias. Twitter/Facebook censoring the Hunter Biden story is big tech putting their finger on the scale.

The MSM didn't help either. Great example here - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/live-blog/2020-10-22-trump-biden-election-n1244210/ncrd1244450

NBC news literally fact checked a story about the stock market if Biden were to win...Ahh yes, NBC news predicting the future of the stock market and then "fact" checking it as if they can see the future. Completely neutral, guys. Surely they would have done the same to benefit Trump when fact checking Biden on his brain dead Green New deal plan.
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...Ahh yes, NBC news predicting the future of the stock market and then "fact" checking it as if they can see the future. Completely neutral, guys. Surely they would have done the same to benefit Trump when fact checking Biden on his brain dead Green New deal plan.

 Completely neutral? Media doing something to benefit Trump?

Are you fucking nuts?
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Apparently, on the basis of nothing, we now have a situation where 70 percent of Republicans don’t think the election was free and fair. This is farcical.


None of this is new. Something like 2/3 democrats thought that Russians had actually affected voter rolls (which is literally impossible) following the 2016 election.

Not only was Russian interference overplayed, democrats were insane enough to think that voters were not tabulated properly and that physical hacking of voting systems caused Trump to take an advantage.

And if we're being technical, this election was not "fair". Democrats, if they're being honest, should admit this too. Universal mail in voting is an issue, but setting that aside, the media was absurdly bias. Twitter/Facebook censoring the Hunter Biden story is big tech putting their finger on the scale.

The MSM didn't help either. Great example here - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/live-blog/2020-10-22-trump-biden-election-n1244210/ncrd1244450

NBC news literally fact checked a story about the stock market if Biden were to win...Ahh yes, NBC news predicting the future of the stock market and then "fact" checking it as if they can see the future. Completely neutral, guys. Surely they would have done the same to benefit Trump when fact checking Biden on his brain dead Green New deal plan.

Yeah, this is kind of what people thought after 2016 -- though to a lesser degree in 2016, because there wasn't any information at the time. I really don't fully understand the claims regarding Russia influencing the actual votes, as none of that happened. Russia (and other countries) influenced the election by posing as fake people online, buying ads, and so on and so forth.

No actual votes were denied or fake votes gotten through because of Russian interference. Which is a really dumb thing for people to think IMO.

NBC on the stock market story kinda makes sense to put out. Though they could've leaned more on the fact that academic researchers have said that stock market returns under both D and R is typically around the same.




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....

Trump couldn't convince the same Dems who voted for Obama to vote for him this time around, as they really didn't see a lot of change in their way of life -- manufacturing, etc.

No of course not, the 30% of Blacks that voted for him, the >30% of hispanics that voted for him...

wait...

only black racists vote for the democrats

republicans are becoming the party of the true americans, democrats the party of the traitors and the selloffs.

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This is the one chance they will have at tearing down the USA. If they lose their chance here, the people will have been warned, and will be more careful next time.


The Media Know There Was Vote Fraud So Why Do The Presstitutes Deny The Obvious?



If the presstitutes are so confident that there is no evidence to back the legal challenges, why are the prostitutes working overtime to discredit the challenges in advance?  All presstitutes are in denial that there is any evidence of fraud.  Why not just wait for the challenges to fail? Why all the whistling in the dark?

The Boston Globe, for example, claims that no election officials doubt the validity of the vote and that Trump "has launched a series of long-shot legal challenges in several state aimed at casting doubt on election results, despite no evidence of voter fraud."

Even the financial news site, Bloomberg, has falsely declared that there is "no evidence of wrongdoing."  How can the media know until the charges are investigated?

If fraud is not a possibility, why has the Georgia Secretary of State ordered a hand recount of the presidential race?


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According a BBC News article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-us-2020-54886025

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Was that before or after they got the visit from Hunter's crack whores?
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I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.

it's ridiculous how these international monitors work

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Now we are finding that it is 100% vote fraud by the Biden support team, against Trump - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5270910.msg55589528#msg55589528.

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I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.

it's ridiculous how these international monitors work

Note that none of the liberal posters to this forum has said a thing to your post.
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I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.

it's ridiculous how these international monitors work

Same for me, I live abroad and all the information I get is from the Internet. I am trying to be critical as much as possible and always ask myself if there is any hidden motivation behind the current results. It's definitely hard to judge from afar. But what I do find curious is that 4 years ago when Trump won the election, many were screaming that election was rigged and influenced by Russian hackers. But right now none if these arguments are being made. So when the republicans win it's all fake, and when the Democrats win everything is legit? Doesn't seem right to me.
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I guess it shows a lot about the state of a country when voters have a choice of the same old for another 4 years or the lesser of two evils but that same scenario is playing out in almost every so-called democracy all over the world. Voters really did not connect with Hillary Clinton in 2016 and all the poll forecasts were turned on their heads when Trump won because some of the blue states won by the Obama administration turned red and handed victory to Trump even though Hillary won the popular vote.

Something went wrong for Trump this time round even though he did receive several million more votes than in 2016. It was just that the Democrats connected with voters in a way that has not happened for a long time especially by encouraging nobody to waste a single vote and vote by mail if necessary instead of going to the voting stations whereas Trump was actively telling supports to avoid votes by mail.


As I was reading what you wrote it seemed like something copied off a news website in the away it is written but you are right, the vote was not rigged. Trump received more votes than he did in 2016 but Biden got more, it is a fact Biden won the popular vote as well as the electoral college and many of those were simply protest votes against Trump and his administration and not because they liked Biden - it might have been case of choosing the lesser of two evils with an anybody-but-Trump mindset as far as some voters were concerned.

Pretty large amount of people think this way by the way -- regarding the whole, voting for anyone who isn't Trump. That's a lot of what the Democratic vote was this time around. No one really loves Biden as a candidate, as he really is a moderate democrat who is pretty old in his ways to be leading a party that seems to be going down a VERY different path. He is not a progressive by any means, doesn't matter who he surrounds himself with to appease others.

Trump couldn't convince the same Dems who voted for Obama to vote for him this time around, as they really didn't see a lot of change in their way of life -- manufacturing, etc.

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I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.

it's ridiculous how these international monitors work

Same for me, I live abroad and all the information I get is from the Internet. I am trying to be critical as much as possible and always ask myself if there is any hidden motivation behind the current results. It's definitely hard to judge from afar. But what I do find curious is that 4 years ago when Trump won the election, many were screaming that election was rigged and influenced by Russian hackers. But right now none if these arguments are being made. So when the republicans win it's all fake, and when the Democrats win everything is legit? Doesn't seem right to me.

the curious thing about it was that days after the elections ended, Pfizer appeared to talk about the vaccine and the WHO director
Tedros, this time he even praised the results of the Pfizer vaccine. I don't live in the USA, but I know that international observatories should never be trusted if they say the elections went well? so we have to be suspicious.

guess what the US and my country elections have in common?

the winners had a historic victory of many votes

I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.

it's ridiculous how these international monitors work

Note that none of the liberal posters to this forum has said a thing to your post.

maybe they're looking for some argument. fact Is that the worst people on that planet are those international observers

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I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.

it's ridiculous how these international monitors work

Same for me, I live abroad and all the information I get is from the Internet. I am trying to be critical as much as possible and always ask myself if there is any hidden motivation behind the current results. It's definitely hard to judge from afar. But what I do find curious is that 4 years ago when Trump won the election, many were screaming that election was rigged and influenced by Russian hackers. But right now none if these arguments are being made. So when the republicans win it's all fake, and when the Democrats win everything is legit? Doesn't seem right to me.

the curious thing about it was that days after the elections ended, Pfizer appeared to talk about the vaccine and the WHO director
Tedros, this time he even praised the results of the Pfizer vaccine. I don't live in the USA, but I know that international observatories should never be trusted if they say the elections went well? so we have to be suspicious.

guess what the US and my country elections have in common?

the winners had a historic victory of many votes

I do not live in the USA so I can’t say whether the US elections were fair and transparent. but I can say that these international monitors are not reliable. last year in my country I had presidential elections and the party that ruled my country for over 40 years did all kinds of cruelty against the opposition, had murders, had innocent arrests, had kidnappings and to make matters worse, had thousands of votes in advance found at the home of the people of the party that govern my country and guess what the international monitors said? they said my country's elections were fair, transparent and without fraud.

it's ridiculous how these international monitors work

Note that none of the liberal posters to this forum has said a thing to your post.

maybe they're looking for some argument. fact Is that the worst people on that planet are those international observers
I saw your post and reflected on places I have been that were similar. Sad, but very true. And then thought of the absolute ignorance if not idiocy, in someone who would create a thread of this sort to push their chosen narrative.
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I guess it shows a lot about the state of a country when voters have a choice of the same old for another 4 years or the lesser of two evils but that same scenario is playing out in almost every so-called democracy all over the world. Voters really did not connect with Hillary Clinton in 2016 and all the poll forecasts were turned on their heads when Trump won because some of the blue states won by the Obama administration turned red and handed victory to Trump even though Hillary won the popular vote.

Something went wrong for Trump this time round even though he did receive several million more votes than in 2016. It was just that the Democrats connected with voters in a way that has not happened for a long time especially by encouraging nobody to waste a single vote and vote by mail if necessary instead of going to the voting stations whereas Trump was actively telling supports to avoid votes by mail.


As I was reading what you wrote it seemed like something copied off a news website in the away it is written but you are right, the vote was not rigged. Trump received more votes than he did in 2016 but Biden got more, it is a fact Biden won the popular vote as well as the electoral college and many of those were simply protest votes against Trump and his administration and not because they liked Biden - it might have been case of choosing the lesser of two evils with an anybody-but-Trump mindset as far as some voters were concerned.

Pretty large amount of people think this way by the way -- regarding the whole, voting for anyone who isn't Trump. That's a lot of what the Democratic vote was this time around. No one really loves Biden as a candidate, as he really is a moderate democrat who is pretty old in his ways to be leading a party that seems to be going down a VERY different path. He is not a progressive by any means, doesn't matter who he surrounds himself with to appease others.

Trump couldn't convince the same Dems who voted for Obama to vote for him this time around, as they really didn't see a lot of change in their way of life -- manufacturing, etc.

The thing that went wrong with Trump was the pandemic and how he handled it. This election was THIS close even with a massive pandemic killing a large portion of the economy and leaving millions of people still unemployed. 200k Americans dead.

If the pandemic hadn't had happened, or public view of Donald Trump / the administrations handling of the pandemic was better we'd be seeing another term for Trump right now. There's no way you can convince me of anything but that as well. LOL.




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The thing that went wrong with Trump was the pandemic and how he handled it. This election was THIS close even with a massive pandemic killing a large portion of the economy and leaving millions of people still unemployed. 200k Americans dead.

If the pandemic hadn't had happened, or public view of Donald Trump / the administrations handling of the pandemic was better we'd be seeing another term for Trump right now. There's no way you can convince me of anything but that as well. LOL.

Not that anyone would want to waste their time trying to convince you, but I'm pretty amused at the idea that politicians are going to claim they can "control" covid or any infectious disease with R=>4.

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LOL.. I would like to see the names and other details of these 28 "experts". I am from Asia, and I would say that the election system in the United States is a complete joke. Even the third world countries have a better election system. And as far as the United States is concerned, the level of election fraud seems to go up with every passing election.

The entire "mail in ballot" procedure is prone to vote rigging (despite the ultra-leftists of CNN shouting 10 times a day that there is "no evidence" for the same). There is a reason why most of the countries in the world doesn't have this mail-in-ballot system. Because it is prone to fraud. Everyone knows what is going on in inner cities. Democrat activists collect the postal ballots en masse, and then mark them in favor of their candidates. That is how you have vote dumps of 3000 or 5000 at a time during the election day, all marked for Joe Biden.
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The entire "mail in ballot" procedure is prone to vote rigging (despite the ultra-leftists of CNN shouting 10 times a day that there is "no evidence" for the same). There is a reason why most of the countries in the world doesn't have this mail-in-ballot system. Because it is prone to fraud. Everyone knows what is going on in inner cities. Democrat activists collect the postal ballots en masse, and then mark them in favor of their candidates. That is how you have vote dumps of 3000 or 5000 at a time during the election day, all marked for Joe Biden.

That's all no problem because, shut up.
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^^^ That is exactly what is being shown in some areas. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289626.msg55602829#msg55602829

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monitors? international election experts? praises?
how about phantom deep state stooges spewing globalist cognitive dissonance on the masses?




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So in a nutshell, Biden won the popular vote as well as the electoral college... that makes him the next President of the USA regardless of the nonsense Trump and his supporters continue to peddle.

The tragedy for a man like Trump who has an ego the size of the planet Jupiter is that he will become a simple citizen in January 2021 and he only has himself to blame. He deliberately fought a divisive campaign designed to make problems and he lost because the voters rejected him.

It seems more a case of them wanting Biden for the sake of not wanting Trump and now he can join Carter and Bush snr in the recent-era single term presidents club.

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in a nutshell we see the Chinese CCP infiltration were successful, as US government institution can be corrupted so the democratic process can be manipulated by passing funds to the 'big guy'.  It is possible to influence the US Election by moving fund and buy out all the key players in non-executive branches of the US government (and, also the 4th branch; aka mocking bird "free press").  And to top that off, getting those US Big tech to surgically censor any election fraud related keyword and perpetuate mass surveillance makes it completely un-noticed by the average USA sheeple.  Thus supernational and CCP could now decides who gets voted in, sheeple electorate can't count- they are just sheeps.

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Sworn affidavits are not evidence. There was a story of some poll watcher that witnessed tempering who had a sworn affidavit and he openly admitted he made up his voter fraud story.
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Sworn affidavits is an document provide written testimony with penalty under perjury under oath are admissible in US courts, at local, state and federal level.  Legally this is known as "material evidence"

However, if the court is a common law, man to man, court of record, where there is no representation by anyone, not attorney and not even the people representing themselves - rather, they are present, unrepresented - the affidavit must be spoken from the stand by the man/woman who originated it, to be acceptable.

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in a nutshell we see the Chinese CCP infiltration were successful

....we fled to Taiwan against Marxist CCP regime.  I guess sheeps could now plan on migrating to Hawaii.

And you've watched in the last year, a virtual double of the spy tactics, the riots, and the insurrection used by Mao in 1948 against the Nationalists.
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https://www.fox26houston.com/news/calls-for-floyd-county-elections-director-to-resign-after-2600-not-counted

Some uncounted ballots in Georgia that give Trump a net 800 vote boost due to some error, apparently.

2600 votes not being counted is significant. This doesn't mean fraud unless it was done intentionally. This does mean someone fucked up.
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https://www.fox26houston.com/news/calls-for-floyd-county-elections-director-to-resign-after-2600-not-counted

Some uncounted ballots in Georgia that give Trump a net 800 vote boost due to some error, apparently.

2600 votes not being counted is significant. This doesn't mean fraud unless it was done intentionally. This does mean someone fucked up.

This year's election will be remembered as the most rigged presidential election in the history of the United States. I would say that the votes should be recounted in all the 50 states and then audited by an independent third party. A part of the blame should go to the republican party as well. They should have prepared for this massive level of vote rigging and should have put observers at all the polling booths and counting centers. I understand that they were prevented from doing so in some places, but then this issue should have been highlighted and taken to the courts as soon as it happened.
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https://www.fox26houston.com/news/calls-for-floyd-county-elections-director-to-resign-after-2600-not-counted

Some uncounted ballots in Georgia that give Trump a net 800 vote boost due to some error, apparently.

2600 votes not being counted is significant. This doesn't mean fraud unless it was done intentionally. This does mean someone fucked up.

This year's election will be remembered as the most rigged presidential election in the history of the United States. I would say that the votes should be recounted in all the 50 states and then audited by an independent third party. A part of the blame should go to the republican party as well. They should have prepared for this massive level of vote rigging and should have put observers at all the polling booths and counting centers. I understand that they were prevented from doing so in some places, but then this issue should have been highlighted and taken to the courts as soon as it happened.

I'm totally good with the whole mess being tossed out by the SC and the Congress voting the POTUS option.
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A team of international monitors from the Organization of American States (OAS) has praised the conduct of the US election.
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Lol I've never seen any failure give up without complain in my entire life since my existence I was expecting the tears from Trump if Biden could over vote him during election then winning the case in the supreme is certain too no doubt
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November 17, 2020, 01:06:22 PM
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Nobody from the Democratic party made allegations of voting irregularities, it was made just by Trump supporters and there is no actual evidence that has been presented to any media network or judge that would hold up in a Court of law, there just seems to be a lot of hot air and not much substance in their allegation, in the words of Trump himself: fake news

The so-called whistleblower who exposed the vote counting was a self-confessed liar that the Trump supporters jump at the chance of showcasing as their evidence. I think they all feel silly right now.

Sworn affidavits are not evidence. There was a story of some poll watcher that witnessed tempering who had a sworn affidavit and he openly admitted he made up his voter fraud story.

To your point though, the media made up their mind as Joe being the winner prior to the election. Fine folks at CNN would have a COVID-19 death counter during their news coverage. Now that Biden is the projected President elect, that counter is magically gone. Almost like they were trying to fear monger or something. Crazy.

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November 17, 2020, 03:45:18 PM
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Nobody from the Democratic party made allegations ...

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November 17, 2020, 05:54:33 PM
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HERE IS THE EVIDENCE of irregularities (315 entries so far)
https://hereistheevidence.com/

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Claiming ‘Staggering Evidence of Election Fraud,’ Trump Attorney Sidney Powell Says She’ll Soon ‘Release the Kraken’ On 2020 Election

And for any who do not know the meme,

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HERE IS THE EVIDENCE of irregularities (315 entries so far)
https://hereistheevidence.com/

One statistic that caught my attention is the figure of 95% turnout in Philadelphia. Even in countries which have mandatory voting, you will be lucky to get 90% to 95% turnout. Statewide average for Pennsylvania was 74.95%, which is somewhat expected. On top of that, we would expect that the turnout would be lower in inner city areas (as the case with previous elections). And this pattern is not just limited to Philadelphia. We had similar pattern in many of the deep-blue inner city areas.

And here is another instance:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/12/18/detroit-ballots-vote-recount-election-stein/95570866/

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The Free Press analysis found there were 248 precincts in Detroit where voting machines tabulated more Election Day votes than people who were counted as checking in to vote. The affected precincts represent 37% of the city's 662 precincts.
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November 18, 2020, 05:27:54 AM
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HERE IS THE EVIDENCE of irregularities (315 entries so far)
https://hereistheevidence.com/

One statistic that caught my attention is the figure of 95% turnout in Philadelphia.

Your post caught my eye, so I checked.

1,129,308 Registered Voters
749,317 Total Ballots

66.35% Turnout

https://results.philadelphiavotes.com/VoterTurnoutDetails.aspx?




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Make sure you save that link in case someone claims there weren't, or shouldn't, be any irregularities in an election where almost 200 million people voted.

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HERE IS THE EVIDENCE of irregularities (315 entries so far)
https://hereistheevidence.com/

One statistic that caught my attention is the figure of 95% turnout in Philadelphia. Even in countries which have mandatory voting, you will be lucky to get 90% to 95% turnout. Statewide average for Pennsylvania was 74.95%, which is somewhat expected. On top of that, we would expect that the turnout would be lower in inner city areas (as the case with previous elections). And this pattern is not just limited to Philadelphia. We had similar pattern in many of the deep-blue inner city areas.

And here is another instance:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/12/18/detroit-ballots-vote-recount-election-stein/95570866/

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The Free Press analysis found there were 248 precincts in Detroit where voting machines tabulated more Election Day votes than people who were counted as checking in to vote. The affected precincts represent 37% of the city's 662 precincts.

When one should get suspicious is when all the anomalies favor one candidate.

Oh, they do.

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November 18, 2020, 03:07:28 PM
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HERE IS THE EVIDENCE of irregularities (315 entries so far)
https://hereistheevidence.com/

One statistic that caught my attention is the figure of 95% turnout in Philadelphia. Even in countries which have mandatory voting, you will be lucky to get 90% to 95% turnout. Statewide average for Pennsylvania was 74.95%, which is somewhat expected. On top of that, we would expect that the turnout would be lower in inner city areas (as the case with previous elections). And this pattern is not just limited to Philadelphia. We had similar pattern in many of the deep-blue inner city areas.

And here is another instance:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/12/18/detroit-ballots-vote-recount-election-stein/95570866/

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The Free Press analysis found there were 248 precincts in Detroit where voting machines tabulated more Election Day votes than people who were counted as checking in to vote. The affected precincts represent 37% of the city's 662 precincts.

When one should get suspicious is when all the anomalies favor one candidate.

Oh, they do.



Actually, no.  They don't.

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November 18, 2020, 04:17:14 PM
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And the information provided in that link ladies and gentlemen are the reasons why an incumbent was voted out of office albeit with alleged vote related fraud?

No court of law at federal level has upheld anything of substance that Trump put forward before judges via his and mini-me Giuliani. Vote count never stopped in any state when he tried to force it even with all the nonsense that is being called evidence on that link provided by Trump supporters.

HEREISTHEVEIDNCE website should have been titled FAKENEWS website instead because it would have been more appropriate.


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One statistic that caught my attention is the figure of 95% turnout in Philadelphia. Even in countries which have mandatory voting, you will be lucky to get 90% to 95% turnout. Statewide average for Pennsylvania was 74.95%, which is somewhat expected. On top of that, we would expect that the turnout would be lower in inner city areas (as the case with previous elections). And this pattern is not just limited to Philadelphia. We had similar pattern in many of the deep-blue inner city areas.
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I read today that the PA Supreme Court has upheld the policy that "Observers can watch the counting" but it's okay if they are forced to be a hundred yards from the process.

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One statistic that caught my attention is the figure of 95% turnout in Philadelphia. Even in countries which have mandatory voting, you will be lucky to get 90% to 95% turnout. Statewide average for Pennsylvania was 74.95%, which is somewhat expected. On top of that, we would expect that the turnout would be lower in inner city areas (as the case with previous elections). And this pattern is not just limited to Philadelphia. We had similar pattern in many of the deep-blue inner city areas.
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I read today that the PA Supreme Court has upheld the policy that "Observers can watch the counting" but it's okay if they are forced to be a hundred yards from the process.



Even the two dissenting judges made it clear in their opinion that it would be ridiculous to just invalidate thousands of votes since there's no. evidence. of. widespread. fraud.

I think that's 0 for 19 in lawsuits now.  Honestly I expected at least a couple would stick.

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Your post caught my eye, so I checked.

1,129,308 Registered Voters
749,317 Total Ballots

66.35% Turnout

https://results.philadelphiavotes.com/VoterTurnoutDetails.aspx?

Hmm.. I double-checked with Decisiondeskhq and looks like you are right. The turnout in Philadelphia was lower, when compared to the rest of Pennsylvania. Right now Biden is leading there with more than 83,000 votes and I don't think that any lawsuit or recount may change that result. But it will be worth the effort to recount and audit the postal ballots. The pattern doesn't match with what we had in the previous elections.
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Doesn't really matter what the vote totals are anymore. The results are going to be certified at the end of the week or early next and the Trump legal team, like utter incompetent dumb fucks, are going on TV talking about how much evidence of voter fraud there is without, ya know, showing the damn evidence.

I wasn't actually mad at the election results rather than disappointed, but seeing Trump's lawyers going on Fox News convincing their rabid viewers that their sitting on a bombshell without actually releasing it makes me overly bitter. You have less than 10 days before it's completely over and the results, no matter what, can't be changed once the states certify the results. Lawsuits take time. Release the damn evidence instead of going on Fox.
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November 19, 2020, 11:18:57 AM
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Even though judges will not invalidate any votes because of lack of evidence, Team Trump continues to go down the "we were robbed line"... it is time for them to stop this nonsense and congratulate Team Biden on winning to 2020 election.

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One statistic that caught my attention is the figure of 95% turnout in Philadelphia. Even in countries which have mandatory voting, you will be lucky to get 90% to 95% turnout. Statewide average for Pennsylvania was 74.95%, which is somewhat expected. On top of that, we would expect that the turnout would be lower in inner city areas (as the case with previous elections). And this pattern is not just limited to Philadelphia. We had similar pattern in many of the deep-blue inner city areas.
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I read today that the PA Supreme Court has upheld the policy that "Observers can watch the counting" but it's okay if they are forced to be a hundred yards from the process.



Even the two dissenting judges made it clear in their opinion that it would be ridiculous to just invalidate thousands of votes since there's no. evidence. of. widespread. fraud.

I think that's 0 for 19 in lawsuits now.  Honestly I expected at least a couple would stick.

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November 19, 2020, 05:27:32 PM
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Doesn't really matter what the vote totals are anymore. The results are going to be certified at the end of the week or early next and the Trump legal team, like utter incompetent dumb fucks, are going on TV talking about how much evidence of voter fraud there is without, ya know, showing the damn evidence.

I wasn't actually mad at the election results rather than disappointed, but seeing Trump's lawyers going on Fox News convincing their rabid viewers that their sitting on a bombshell without actually releasing it makes me overly bitter. You have less than 10 days before it's completely over and the results, no matter what, can't be changed once the states certify the results. Lawsuits take time. Release the damn evidence instead of going on Fox.

Yup. This is exactly what is going to happen. They're going to go on TV and complain about it, retweet false claims all over social media and confuse the hell out of their voter base that believes every single thing that they say and will not do any of their own investigations into the matter.

But all of that is strategy in a way. The Trump legal team knows they're not going to get anywhere and all of this is being done to ensure that Trump is still the leader of the GOP even after he has left. He knows he still wields a MASSIVE amount of power within the party and is going to try to utilize that to raise money and then make politicians beholden to his world view and his policy view.




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November 19, 2020, 11:16:49 PM
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Doesn't really matter what the vote totals are anymore. The results are going to be certified at the end of the week or early next and the Trump legal team, like utter incompetent dumb fucks, are going on TV talking about how much evidence of voter fraud there is without, ya know, showing the damn evidence.

I wasn't actually mad at the election results rather than disappointed, but seeing Trump's lawyers going on Fox News convincing their rabid viewers that their sitting on a bombshell without actually releasing it makes me overly bitter. You have less than 10 days before it's completely over and the results, no matter what, can't be changed once the states certify the results. Lawsuits take time. Release the damn evidence instead of going on Fox.

Yup. This is exactly what is going to happen. They're going to go on TV and complain about it, retweet false claims all over social media and confuse the hell out of their voter base that believes every single thing that they say and will not do any of their own investigations into the matter.

But all of that is strategy in a way. The Trump legal team knows they're not going to get anywhere and all of this is being done to ensure that Trump is still the leader of the GOP even after he has left. He knows he still wields a MASSIVE amount of power within the party and is going to try to utilize that to raise money and then make politicians beholden to his world view and his policy view.


Press conference was today with Rudi Guliani and some Powell(?) lady who apparently represented Michael Flynn iirc.

Of course, nothing meaningful came out of the press conference and they floated around voter fraud without showing evidence.
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International monitors that are controlled by the World Bank, will stop at nothing to get Trump out. They are behind the election fraud.

Why would they do this? Because the Trump message to the American people is real and true freedom. And this message is traveling around the world so that people are ready to fight tyranny wherever it lives.

It means a free world, and Big Banking will never stand for this. So they will fight Trump tooth and nail. Lying that there was no fraud in the elections, is simply another way for them to accomplish their ends... just like the fake Covid scare.

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November 20, 2020, 12:39:00 AM
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Doesn't really matter what the vote totals are anymore. The results are going to be certified at the end of the week or early next and the Trump legal team, like utter incompetent dumb fucks, are going on TV talking about how much evidence of voter fraud there is without, ya know, showing the damn evidence.

I wasn't actually mad at the election results rather than disappointed, but seeing Trump's lawyers going on Fox News convincing their rabid viewers that their sitting on a bombshell without actually releasing it makes me overly bitter. You have less than 10 days before it's completely over and the results, no matter what, can't be changed once the states certify the results. Lawsuits take time. Release the damn evidence instead of going on Fox.

Yup. This is exactly what is going to happen. They're going to go on TV and complain about it, retweet false claims all over social media and confuse the hell out of their voter base that believes every single thing that they say and will not do any of their own investigations into the matter.

But all of that is strategy in a way. The Trump legal team knows they're not going to get anywhere and all of this is being done to ensure that Trump is still the leader of the GOP even after he has left. He knows he still wields a MASSIVE amount of power within the party and is going to try to utilize that to raise money and then make politicians beholden to his world view and his policy view.


Press conference was today with Rudi Guliani and some Powell(?) lady who apparently represented Michael Flynn iirc.

Of course, nothing meaningful came out of the press conference and they floated around voter fraud without showing evidence.

The hair dye dripping down his face was entertaining.



Since then 3 more lawsuits have gone up in smoke (GA, AZ and PA).  I think that's 20 now?


But all of that is strategy in a way. The Trump legal team knows they're not going to get anywhere and all of this is being done to ensure that Trump is still the leader of the GOP even after he has left. He knows he still wields a MASSIVE amount of power within the party and is going to try to utilize that to raise money and then make politicians beholden to his world view and his policy view.
He's also raising quite a bit of money off the whole fraud fraud.

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November 20, 2020, 12:48:01 AM
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Giuliani presents new cases of fraud - https://www.brighteon.com/4d0b4810-9afb-4828-8733-1d20ce8ec412


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The hair dye dripping down his face was entertaining.
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I am so glad you have a rebuttal to Biden's bragging about his best election fraud operation ever.
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The hair dye dripping down his face was entertaining.
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I am so glad you have a rebuttal to Biden's bragging about his best election fraud operation ever.


Wonder why there's no evidence of any widespread fraud and Trumps lawsuits keep going in the trash, mostly due to lack of evidence or simply an idiotic claim.  I think we're at 30 rejected, ruled against or dropped by the campaign and 2 rulings for - one of which was overturned quickly, the other was actually reasonable - but, like most of them, nothing to do with fraud.

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https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1329842428816236551


My prediction - Joe Biden will blame Trump for when COVID-19 deaths/cases continue to rise or flatten and cite the Trump's administration refusal to concede.

I wonder when leftist will admit they fell for the grift when Joe Biden said he would "shut down the virus" and admit that you either wait for a vaccine, or let COVID rip through communities because it's impossible to stop this virus from spreading. Biden, and his insufferable running mate, were lying when they said they had a plan that could magically end all this.

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The hair dye dripping down his face was entertaining.
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I am so glad you have a rebuttal to Biden's bragging about his best election fraud operation ever.


Wonder why there's no evidence of any widespread fraud and Trumps lawsuits keep going in the trash, mostly due to lack of evidence or simply an idiotic claim.  I think we're at 30 rejected, ruled against or dropped by the campaign and 2 rulings for - one of which was overturned quickly, the other was actually reasonable - but, like most of them, nothing to do with fraud.

I do suggest you listen to the various lying cunts of the manufacturing of post modern right think.

Certainly ignore anything from someone like me who has personally handled voting machines and seen various brands and models hacked within minutes by really average hackers.

After all, from your handlers point of view, that's a feature not a bug.
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November 20, 2020, 08:46:42 PM
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Doesn't really matter what the vote totals are anymore. The results are going to be certified at the end of the week or early next and the Trump legal team, like utter incompetent dumb fucks, are going on TV talking about how much evidence of voter fraud there is without, ya know, showing the damn evidence.

I wasn't actually mad at the election results rather than disappointed, but seeing Trump's lawyers going on Fox News convincing their rabid viewers that their sitting on a bombshell without actually releasing it makes me overly bitter. You have less than 10 days before it's completely over and the results, no matter what, can't be changed once the states certify the results. Lawsuits take time. Release the damn evidence instead of going on Fox.

Yup. This is exactly what is going to happen. They're going to go on TV and complain about it, retweet false claims all over social media and confuse the hell out of their voter base that believes every single thing that they say and will not do any of their own investigations into the matter.

But all of that is strategy in a way. The Trump legal team knows they're not going to get anywhere and all of this is being done to ensure that Trump is still the leader of the GOP even after he has left. He knows he still wields a MASSIVE amount of power within the party and is going to try to utilize that to raise money and then make politicians beholden to his world view and his policy view.


Press conference was today with Rudi Guliani and some Powell(?) lady who apparently represented Michael Flynn iirc.

Of course, nothing meaningful came out of the press conference and they floated around voter fraud without showing evidence.

The hair dye dripping down his face was entertaining.



Since then 3 more lawsuits have gone up in smoke (GA, AZ and PA).  I think that's 20 now?


But all of that is strategy in a way. The Trump legal team knows they're not going to get anywhere and all of this is being done to ensure that Trump is still the leader of the GOP even after he has left. He knows he still wields a MASSIVE amount of power within the party and is going to try to utilize that to raise money and then make politicians beholden to his world view and his policy view.
He's also raising quite a bit of money off the whole fraud fraud.

Heh, yeah. All of this money that is being raised is going to a NEW PAC that Donald Trump just founded. Pretty sure it's a leadership PAC, which is going to allow him to use the money how he sees fits on ensuring that 'Trump people' continue to win Republican elections. Here's some info on that - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/us/politics/trump-pac.html

Seems like Trump wanted to try to court some Michigan members of the state legislature in an attempt to have them appoint electora that would support Trump instead of Biden, who won the state, but that was cancelled b/c of a COVID Exposure - https://www.axios.com/trump-giuliani-white-house-michigan-covid-abbbbcf3-e415-4d9d-8911-427be7b645b1.html




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November 20, 2020, 10:52:47 PM
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Rudy Giuliani looks like a man possessed, almost like something out of The Exorcist  Grin

Those big eyes are just a distraction to take the conversation away from the incoherent fairytale stories that he reads when standing in front of an audience explaining without any real evidence how the election was rigged.

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I do suggest you listen to the various lying cunts of the manufacturing of post modern right think.

Why am I reading this in an English accent?

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I do suggest you listen to the various lying cunts of the manufacturing of post modern right think.

Why am I reading this in an English accent?
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December 06, 2020, 10:13:55 PM
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All the evidence that is tossed out on voter fraud..is never really evidence.

It is news  of someone saying they have evidence it seems, but, never actually delves down to the evidence...then this fades

and then new evidence or rinse/wash/repeat

Ok...gonna go with an actual way/timeline here, in this order.

As an example of someone 'saying' something as news, but without any real verifiable or legal facts to the level to have investiaged

sent to a court of law and rising to the level of legal facts...well, not. But the news is stated in a way that IF so and so or Trump or

whoever simply 'says' something is so, you are left with the impression that the news is factual.

https://www.waynedupree.com/2020/12/georgia-dominion-forensic-audit/

I should be fair above however the most of this news source simply reported on what the representative said was the facts..not the facts themselves. Below is along the

the same theme, it has to be backed up in court with more than supposition, and even if some equipment did not work or some other flaws,

it has to rise to the occasion of

changing 1st the votes in the county, or beyond. So far the FBI has said no fraud rises to that level by AG Barr. Anyway, an example of reporting what someone says as a

the fact just based on them saying such.

Sure it may be news but seems like yelling fraud everywhere until it actually is the case someplace. But it has to meet the criteria of 'actual fraud by intent' and or 'legal

facts for a court or prosecution' by legal means. Then even if shown to be worse of above..has to rise to the level to reverse the election. The last point, if all the same

equipment and the rest were used in the very close 2016 election does that also mean using this logic..that the 2016 election needs to be re-looked at as well. The quote

below is also news, but news based only on what the person says, with no evidence provided. https://news.yahoo.com/roger-stone-claims-north-korea-053809333.html

Then of course as 'above' article or the statement is shown to be in 'error' 3 days or so later. Suddenly a new 'fact' stated by someone to take its place.

So it goes rinse/wash/repeat

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