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January 07, 2021, 09:23:30 PM
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Great job @webtricks with the betting page and thanks for that bonus 500 doge. I made a couple of bets on my old poker buddies. 100 on webtricks, and 400 on iv4n. iv4n is a beast when things get tight and my favorite for the series, added bonus I managed to win one of previous satellites against him so I can tell myself I am better than all of you if he wins Smiley
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P.S. Now I see that the odds on my choices dropped but other remained the same. Is it supposed to work that way? I was expecting odds on non chosen players to rise.

Thank you @Trofo. Yes, odds were intended to work that way. This was done to prevent astronomical rise in odds for the players who haven't received any bet. So, unless the player received one or more bets, his initial odds won't change. But now all players have received at least one bet so odds for the remaining players will rise if one of the player receives bet.

Here's the screenshot of the current odds:

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January 08, 2021, 05:56:48 AM
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BITCOINTALK POKER SERIES FINALE BETTING MARKET



I have updated the rules slightly for betting odds handling: Now, user can only bet at maximum 500 DOGE per bet.  You can still deposit and bet more than 500 DOGE, however, you will have to make more than 1 bet. For example, if you want to bet 1500 DOGE on 'Betwrong', you first have to make a bet of 500 DOGE at current odds then odds will readjust, after which you will make the second bet and then the final bet after next odds adjustment. So, in total 3 bets.

There are still loaded accounts available with 500 DOGE ($5) bonuses. PM me to get your account and make your bets on the next poker king!


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January 08, 2021, 10:21:51 AM
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Hey guys, the tourmanent has appeared in the lobby already. In the tourmanent info I found the following text:

"This tournament grants is tournament money. The latter can be used to buy in to any tournament offered in the Network"

does it mean the players who make it in the money cannot cash out? we need to use it for further tournaments?
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January 08, 2021, 12:31:51 PM
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Hey guys, the tourmanent has appeared in the lobby already. In the tourmanent info I found the following text:

"This tournament grants is tournament money. The latter can be used to buy in to any tournament offered in the Network"

does it mean the players who make it in the money cannot cash out? we need to use it for further tournaments?

That would be strange! Maybe it's some mistake!? Yahoo will clear this for us, I believe... in the meantime I placed a bet on you!

Thank you, Web!!!



Ico and Tray are doing good, and maybe we will see some new name on the tron! 1r0n1c didn't have a lot of luck in this series, and maybe the final game can be his shinny moment! Smiley
Of course two bets on myself, I couldn't choose between Arallmuus, Web and Noob, so I placed the last bet on myself again! Smiley
Well good luck guys! Smiley

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January 08, 2021, 03:05:11 PM
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Alright so i went all in myself  Tongue first bet is ridiculous x72 lets see if i get lucky

And thanks webtricks for the site, it's pretty well done.
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January 08, 2021, 03:14:52 PM
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Alright so i went all in myself  Tongue first bet is ridiculous x72 lets see if i get lucky
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And thanks webtricks for the site, it's pretty well done.

Cool man! You are able to secure excellent odds! 72x is pretty wonderful! Good luck for the finale. Winning the tournament would be quite a day for you. Huge payout on Betnomi, huge payout on webtricks betting market. Wink
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January 08, 2021, 03:24:03 PM
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After noticing the users' interest, I decided to create betting market for our series finale. ~

FREE BONUS: I have also included the bonus of 7500 DOGE. First 15 accounts are loaded with 500 DOGE ($5) each. So, you don't even have to deposit in order to bet. ~

This is so cool of you, tnx, @webtricks! Smiley

So, here's my bets:



I used the opportunity to bet on TikTokLyfe with amazing odds, 14.27x, which, I think, we'll never see again. icopress and webtricks had also attractive odds at the time of my betting, so I exploited that too. Smiley

Before going to the site, I was planning to bet on iv4n, but then I saw the odds(everyone's favorite, huh?Smiley ), and I changed my mind.  

The odds look like this currently:



Now, if I were you, guys, I'd bet on 1ron1c and Betwrong. Smiley


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January 08, 2021, 03:24:23 PM
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Nice dressing for Sunday's poker party!!

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I sent the private message and I received the UserID-password data I also received my 500 Doge as mentioned in the post, I have made a deposit of 500 DOGE for an extra in the bets.

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January 08, 2021, 03:27:54 PM
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Hello everyone, well, I also made a bet (bonus from webtricks). But I would like to place some more bets ..., does anyone have DOGE? I could offer 10-15 dollars in return by sending them inside the Betnomi platform, (has anyone tested this function?). And by the way, I think we all underestimate noobHere (I think he is like a dark horse).



What do you guys think about betting? Who will take 1st place, etc. [For the Grand Finale and for the Little Finale]

Edited: Hoho, how I put forward this proposal in time Grin
It seems to me that the next poker series will be much more interesting)) Especially if it will be possible to place bets on the final game from the first round!

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January 08, 2021, 04:11:39 PM
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Only 9 players make the final game not 10. Those 9 players are Betwrong Iv4n 1r0n1c webtricks TikTokLyfe Teethow TrayvonKang noobhere icopress. There are 4 eligible for the little final. Those 4 are rak3y0urchips FmBet steamtyme and FOMA777. Both games will be this Sunday same start time with 50k stacks. I will pm everyone the pw for the game they qualified for. I'll wait til the game is in the lobby
only 4 of us in the mini final? what's the payout structure on that---100% to 1st place? this should be fun. Grin
see you guys on the felt sunday!
I just registered for the runners up game. Looks like it's a 70/30 split payout so not bad odds for 1st and 2nd to take home some cash.

Good luck everyone playing on Sunday. Thanks Yahoo for organizing and to Betnomi for the sponsored prizepool.


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January 08, 2021, 04:27:39 PM
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Alright so i went all in myself  Tongue first bet is ridiculous x72 lets see if i get lucky

Thats so sick, it is over 100x with 3k doges on bet. If you win the whole the 1st place, you will get $500 from the Grand Finale and over 300k doges from the side bet worth over $2800 with the current rate ( over $3k in total ). This makes the game more interesting because with this there is a whole lot reason for you to win this one  Smiley

has anyone tested this function?

Both the sender and recipient account needs to have the same currency (usd/euro) or else it wont work

I used the opportunity to bet on TikTokLyfe with amazing odds, 14.27x

Thats high, I only get 8.93 when I bet for myself. Ir0nic now has over 15x in case anyone would love to bet on these odds

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January 08, 2021, 10:30:27 PM
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I have updated the rules slightly for betting odds handling: Now, user can only bet at maximum 500 DOGE per bet.  You can still deposit and bet more than 500 DOGE, however, you will have to make more than 1 bet. For example, if you want to bet 1500 DOGE on 'Betwrong', you first have to make a bet of 500 DOGE at current odds then odds will readjust, after which you will make the second bet and then the final bet after next odds adjustment. So, in total 3 bets.

Thanks for your DOGE and of course i'm appreciate your idea with bets. I've done three bets:

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250 DOGE    Betwrong    12.40x
100 DOGE    webtricks    11.39x
150 DOGE    icopress    9.98x


Maybe i would add some more DOGE, but i don't holding them and don't have opportunity to buy them fast on exchanger. So that's what i have (thanks again to webtricks for his 500 DOGE). But i have some question: Why so big odds?
Maybe this is USA system, but i often see (in my local book sites) odds like 1.23, 2.05 which means 1.23 X sum if you win. And what we have here? 12.4x Huh This is some kind of giveaway or what?  Huh

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January 09, 2021, 07:09:10 AM
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Alright so i went all in myself  Tongue first bet is ridiculous x72 lets see if i get lucky

Thats so sick, it is over 100x with 3k doges on bet. If you win the whole the 1st place, you will get $500 from the Grand Finale and over 300k doges from the side bet worth over $2800 with the current rate ( over $3k in total ). This makes the game more interesting because with this there is a whole lot reason for you to win this one  Smiley

I think Web has more reasons to kick Teethow out of the game than to win the tournament! With these odds and bets this looks like a crazy betting... well Web can let it be, or he can put some bounty on Teethow, even a few hundred dollars would be OK I guess!
Good luck Teethow, you just made this game a lot more interesting! Smiley

Maybe i would add some more DOGE, but i don't holding them and don't have opportunity to buy them fast on exchanger. So that's what i have (thanks again to webtricks for his 500 DOGE). But i have some question: Why so big odds?
Maybe this is USA system, but i often see (in my local book sites) odds like 1.23, 2.05 which means 1.23 X sum if you win. And what we have here? 12.4x Huh This is some kind of giveaway or what?  Huh

It's why I like to use swapzone https://swapzone.io/! Very easy to use, fast and reliable!
Odds are definitely high, I agree with that!

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January 09, 2021, 11:06:27 AM
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Alright so i went all in myself  Tongue first bet is ridiculous x72 lets see if i get lucky

Thats so sick, it is over 100x with 3k doges on bet. If you win the whole the 1st place, you will get $500 from the Grand Finale and over 300k doges from the side bet worth over $2800 with the current rate ( over $3k in total ). This makes the game more interesting because with this there is a whole lot reason for you to win this one  Smiley


I think there's something wrong with your calculations, mate Smiley

If you are adding up all the odds, 72x + 12.75 + ..., your 100x is going to be for 500 DOGE, not 3k. Still a great side prize though, $500, I mean. Smiley

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Odds are definitely high, I agree with that!

The odds look high to me as well. So, if there was a mistake in the odds calculation on webtricks.website, I think we should agree in advance on some possible correction. We are not going to rob our friend, webtricks, right? Smiley

With that being said, I think I can answer this question

~ But i have some question: Why so big odds?
Maybe this is USA system, but i often see (in my local book sites) odds like 1.23, 2.05 which means 1.23 X sum if you win. And what we have here? 12.4x Huh This is some kind of giveaway or what?  Huh

When you see 1.23 or 2.05 in your local bookies, those are odds for two teams in the game, right? And here we have 9, so hence the odds.

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January 09, 2021, 03:25:07 PM
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Maybe i would add some more DOGE, but i don't holding them and don't have opportunity to buy them fast on exchanger. So that's what i have (thanks again to webtricks for his 500 DOGE). But i have some question: Why so big odds?
Maybe this is USA system, but i often see (in my local book sites) odds like 1.23, 2.05 which means 1.23 X sum if you win. And what we have here? 12.4x Huh This is some kind of giveaway or what?  Huh

Okay, let me explain how odds work:

The examples you gave are from two-way or three-way markets. Let me quote a real live market for tonight matches to better explain the things:

Granada v Barcelona - Odds - 7.00  1.40  5.20
Levante v Eibar - Odds - 2.30 3.10  3.40

In which match do you think house is paying better odds? No. 1? Nope, it's match 2 between Levante and Eibar.

To determine the house edge in odds, we first need to add total odds by dividing each with 1 first. In first match, it will be = 1/7 + 1/1.4 + 1/5.2 = 1.0495.
Now divide 1 with the result, it will be = 1/1.0495 = 0.9528.
Finally deduct the result from 1 and multiply by 100, it will be = 1-0.9528 = 0.0472 or 4.72%

In second match, it's 4.89%. So, if bets are equally spread among the teams according to winning probability then house will make the profit of 4.72% and 4.89% in above matches resp..



Now, let's consider our market. We have 9 players. Easy example first. Suppose, each player is equal contender of winning and equally-likely favorite of bettors. So, we will give equal probability and odds to each of them, hence, each player has 1/9 chance of winning. If our house edge is zero, we will give 9.00x odds for each player. But let's consider the house edge of 5% which means I set odds to 8.55x for each player.

Suppose, each player received equal bets of $100 then our total income is $900. One of the player will win and we have to pay $100 * 8.55 = $855 to winners, leaving us with $45 as profit.

These are the current odds from my website:
Betwrong 9.65x, icopress 9.28x, TrayvonKang 8.04x, noobHere 10.96x, TikTokLyFe 12.06x, webtricks 9.28x, Iv4n 6.18x, Teethow 3.77x, 1r0n1c 15.08x,

Looking high? Let's find out. Using the formula explained in first part,
1/9.65 + 1/9.28 + 1/8.04 + 1/10.96 + 1/12.06 + 1/9.28 + 1/6.18 + 1/3.77 + 1/15.08 = 1.1110

Dividing with 1, = 0.90004. Deducting from 1, we are left with 0.10006 or 10% house edge.

So, don't worry guys, there is nothing wrong with odds.  Cheesy And I would be more than happy to payout the winnings if Teethow or anyone else wins.

However, I failed to anticipate one thing while writing the algorithm. There is a factor known as 'indifferentiation'. Usually bettors differentiate among the choices. For example, in the first match above, odds for Barcelona are 1.40 which is significantly lower than the odds on Granada or Draw. But still maximum bets will be made on this odd because bettors expect Barcelona win more than other two choices.

However, sometimes bettors are indifferentiate towards the choices, like in our game. We can't say with greater predictability that who has higher chances of winning. In such markets, bettors are more concerned with odds than probability. Hence, maximum bets will come on players with higher odds rather than the player with higher probability of winning. For example, when Betwong's odds were 4.5x and webtricks's odds were 11.5x, the bettor preferred the latter. However, the same bettor preferred Betwrong over webtricks when odds were reversed.

To deal with such situation, I should have increased the house edge to atleast 1/6th or 16.67% and reduce the weightage of winning chance to 1/5th in total calculation. But no worries, I have some big stack of DOGE lying in my wallet from last failed project so it won't hurt much.  Grin
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January 09, 2021, 03:41:27 PM
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Hello everyone, well, I also made a bet (bonus from webtricks). But I would like to place some more bets ..., does anyone have DOGE? I could offer 10-15 dollars in return by sending them inside the Betnomi platform, (has anyone tested this function?).

If you are interested to bet more, I can help. Like arallmuus said, both users need to have same currency preference. My username on Betnomi is webtricks and currency is USD. You can send the funds and PM me, I will credit your account.



Thats so sick, it is over 100x with 3k doges on bet. If you win the whole the 1st place, you will get $500 from the Grand Finale and over 300k doges from the side bet worth over $2800 with the current rate ( over $3k in total ). This makes the game more interesting because with this there is a whole lot reason for you to win this one  Smiley


@Betwrong is right, base bet is 500 DOGE so odds will be paid on 500, not 3000 DOGE. Smiley



I think Web has more reasons to kick Teethow out of the game than to win the tournament! With these odds and bets this looks like a crazy betting... well Web can let it be, or he can put some bounty on Teethow, even a few hundred dollars would be OK I guess!
Good luck Teethow, you just made this game a lot more interesting! Smiley


Haha, bounty! Not a bad idea. I will possibly make the announcement about this tomorrow. One or two bounties in the final won't be bad to make it more competitive and aggressive.
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January 09, 2021, 05:49:22 PM
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@Betwrong is right, base bet is 500 DOGE so odds will be paid on 500, not 3000 DOGE. Smiley

Oh yeah I added every bet he had there but still even at 500 doge base bet, Teethow will win some good amount in case he could get the 1st spot

Teethow has 7 open bet for himself

500 doge @72.00x will pay 36000
500 doge @12.75x will pay 6375
500 doge @7.36x will pay 3680
500 doge @5.34x will pay 2670
500 doge @4.29x will pay 2450
500 doge @3.63x will pay 1815
100 doge @3.19x will pay 319

At current rate its over $530 and its pretty much the same prize for the 1st spot. Makes alot more sense now compared with my previous calculation

Haha, bounty! Not a bad idea. I will possibly make the announcement about this tomorrow. One or two bounties in the final won't be bad to make it more competitive and aggressive.

I will be glad to help you take down Teethow !. All you gotta do is share some doge with me and I'll take 50% cut in case you finish ITM lol  Tongue



Goodluck Teethow, if you get the 1st place tomorrow then $1k will be yours !

Edit : dont forget to register for Grand Finale and Runner up final, its in the lobby

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Last edit: January 09, 2021, 06:58:47 PM by johhnyUA
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It's why I like to use swapzone https://swapzone.io/! Very easy to use, fast and reliable!
Odds are definitely high, I agree with that!

Thx for the site, i will check it man. I hope this is without KYC  Cheesy

Okay, let me explain how odds work:

Oh, now i get it. But anyway, was close to what i thought. Thx for good clarification!

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January 09, 2021, 11:28:13 PM
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If you are interested to bet more, I can help. Like arallmuus said, both users need to have same currency preference. My username on Betnomi is webtricks and currency is USD. You can send the funds and PM me, I will credit your account.
Man, you are a very sympathetic person, thx! As I said, I haven't tested this feature and don't know what the commission is, but I sent you $20. [I hope my bet on your victory will be a winning one  Roll Eyes]

By the way, since you have already described what the whole process looks like from the inside ... Could you briefly describe your vision of the betting process at an early stage? [If you have any thoughts on this]

It seems to me that the next poker series will be much more interesting)) Especially if it will be possible to place bets on the final game from the first round!

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January 10, 2021, 11:23:28 AM
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If you are interested to bet more, I can help. Like arallmuus said, both users need to have same currency preference. My username on Betnomi is webtricks and currency is USD. You can send the funds and PM me, I will credit your account.
Man, you are a very sympathetic person, thx! As I said, I haven't tested this feature and don't know what the commission is, but I sent you $20. [I hope my bet on your victory will be a winning one  Roll Eyes]

I have received your buddy transfer and it seems fees is zero just like SwC. I have added 2000 DOGE in your account, go and make those final flashing bets on your favorites. Wink



By the way, since you have already described what the whole process looks like from the inside ... Could you briefly describe your vision of the betting process at an early stage? [If you have any thoughts on this]

It seems to me that the next poker series will be much more interesting)) Especially if it will be possible to place bets on the final game from the first round!

From my side, it's a green signal. The trial of my algorithm was successful, I found a vulnerability or two which will be improved in future markets. Only complain I received so far is the use of DOGE, for that, we can use BTC in future, no problem. So, in case there will be a series in future (which Betnomi already showed intentions for), I will be happy to make betting markets from the start. Now, you guys can tell me the improvements or additions you want and more importantly, are you willing to bet?
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