Live betting question.

[gadado]

I think for any kind of game you are talking on and with such explanation, I think that is fraud. Is not right to be so that the gambler has to be cheating while trying to bet if a point is scored against him and it will be cancelled if it happens the other way.

I do not think it is fraud. If a site allows a users to place the bets, the site must take responsibility ( at least in this case). It is not that there are wrong quotes on the site and that the user is deliberately trying to take advantage of it, then it would be a different story. Depends what the definition is on fraud here.

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[FontSeli]

The live betting option on betcoinag seems ridiculous to me.

If I'm placing a bet on a game and a point is scored when its processing. It will only accept the bet if no point is scored or a point is scored by the opposing team. If my team scores a point it will cancel 99% of the time. I'm fine with the other team scoring and the bet accepting. I just want it to be fair both ways. It will 100% cancel one way but not the other, It just seems like a huge scam to me. I think it's extremely shady that it operates this way but maybe I'm just overreacting.

Hopefully I explained that properly would love to hear feedback. Thanks

I have a simple advice for you. Various gambling sites may have their own rules and algorithms that you may not like. Sometimes you may not understand how it works. In such cases it is better to refuse to visit such sites and it is better not to bet there. Now there is a huge selection of gambling sites on the Internet, find the one you like.

[bitbollo]

The live betting option on betcoinag seems ridiculous to me.

If I'm placing a bet on a game and a point is scored when its processing. It will only accept the bet if no point is scored or a point is scored by the opposing team. If my team scores a point it will cancel 99% of the time. I'm fine with the other team scoring and the bet accepting. I just want it to be fair both ways. It will 100% cancel one way but not the other, It just seems like a huge scam to me. I think it's extremely shady that it operates this way but maybe I'm just overreacting.

Hopefully I explained that properly would love to hear feedback. Thanks

it depends where you are betting since there is a different lag between your bets will be placed on market.
as example on betfair you have a lag of 7 seconds. if a goal is scored your bet is stopped. otherwise is going to be placed.
they don't make difference (at least in exchange market) is the bet is going to be a win or a lose.

[delfastTions]

In any case, the developers answer to dissatisfied customers and this is already an indicator of the quality of their work.  Especially when it comes to such a special forum as BTT.  And such bets, of course, must be precisely regulated by the rules so as not to cause unnecessary controversial situations. 
And here is the absolutely correct advice, of course, you need to be familiar with the rules before placing bets.  Indeed, many gambling sites offer such services to players.

[FontSeli]

I have a simple advice for you. Various gambling sites may have their own rules and algorithms that you may not like. Sometimes you may not understand how it works. In such cases it is better to refuse to visit such sites and it is better not to bet there. Now there is a huge selection of gambling sites on the Internet, find the one you like.

This is correct, as people are not bound to visits one due to high variety of choices available and they do accept wide range of coins as well, so just falling back is not required anyone. Try and what you like and where you win play that , else avoid if you find any suspicious things or better to just check in ANN thread and get it clarified as major and reputed sites do revert back quickly and resolve it.

Our life is short. So there's no need to waste time on things we don't like. If you think that the site bets are not made correctly or you just don't understand how it works, it's easier to leave than to find out for a long time whether they work correctly or not.

[bonjouros]

If you think that their live betting is a little bit unfair then it will be good if you will stop using it or you can just transfer to another  platform that will give you a better service rather than staying to betcoinag platform as your concern will just continue because there is a big chances that it is part of their live betting tactics.

I didn't know yet if what are their rules in live betting or what are their terms so I cannot comment much about it, so the best option for you as of right now is to stop using that platform and transfer to another that will accept your bet even if the team that you have chosen to bet has scored.

[Stedsm]

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I believe that OP already knows what's in his favor, that's common sense btw. Why would someone put their money on the table and expect someone to take it and run away? Stupid, no?

@Betcoin, I had only been wary off you guys till now, but your way of replying shocked me completely. I mean, how can you even consider Stake here? Why are you dragging the conversation's main focus about the user's issue with trying to place a bet, to him using the name of Stake here? I know they're your competitors as they're from the same industry, but then, your work should speak rather than your words.

[freedomgo]

Every sportsbook has their own policy and that policy is always in their own advantage.

I'm sorry to hear your story if you feel they are bein unfair to you, but that's how it is, me, I just accept it as I have already noticed that most of the time and it's not actually big if it's just a point or something, unless it's on games where 1 point really matters a lot like soccer football.

[arwin100]

I have a simple advice for you. Various gambling sites may have their own rules and algorithms that you may not like. Sometimes you may not understand how it works. In such cases it is better to refuse to visit such sites and it is better not to bet there. Now there is a huge selection of gambling sites on the Internet, find the one you like.

This is correct, as people are not bound to visits one due to high variety of choices available and they do accept wide range of coins as well, so just falling back is not required anyone. Try and what you like and where you win play that , else avoid if you find any suspicious things or better to just check in ANN thread and get it clarified as major and reputed sites do revert back quickly and resolve it.

Our life is short. So there's no need to waste time on things we don't like. If you think that the site bets are not made correctly or you just don't understand how it works, it's easier to leave than to find out for a long time whether they work correctly or not.

People do some crazy things in life and others think about experimenting things on new platforms they see that's why there are others who like to visit in some new site since there are few people believe on beginners luck beliefs. But if the budget is limited and cannot afford to lose more faster maybe you are right to leave on the things we don't know since by their we can avoid such unnecessary losses which the new site offers which confuse us.

[kryptqnick]

I don't like live bets, so frankly, it's hard for me to understand what's the problem here. I read the original post, the explanation of Betcoin and many posts in this discussion, but if ralle14 did not understand it right (and it seems that he's not the only one who interpreted it this way), neither did I. I support the idea with the video, it would really help to see what goes supposedly wrong and to compare it with other websites. I could then try to do my own little experiment on Sportsbet.io and tell you whether it had the same process or not.

[Timelord2067]

I'm wondering why you are waiting until the match is under-way to place a wager?  With the exception of a late scratching, or a player being injured (or rain or something along those lines) I would have thought your mind would be made up before the game starts.

The only exception to this would be if one side are blitzing their opponents and it looks like they will win.

[imstillthebest]

thats how gambling works . gambling always have an advantage over you . its risky to keep going but you still have a chance to win because its still not guaranteed that the opposing team can win right after they score a little points but your chosen teams can still catch up . if 99 percent is a chance that they wont accept your bet , that means you still have a 1 percent chance that they will accept and you shouldlnt have to complain at all if your fine with when opposing teams scores but they will accept your bet .

[iv4n]

I don't like live bets, so frankly, it's hard for me to understand what's the problem here. I read the original post, the explanation of Betcoin and many posts in this discussion, but if ralle14 did not understand it right (and it seems that he's not the only one who interpreted it this way), neither did I. I support the idea with the video, it would really help to see what goes supposedly wrong and to compare it with other websites. I could then try to do my own little experiment on Sportsbet.io and tell you whether it had the same process or not.

Live betting can be interesting sometimes! If I understood it correctly, the problem here is a bet processing! Basically in live betting odds are changing all the time, so you can't place bet in some moments (betting can be locked for several reasons I guess, but the main one is result change or something that can affect it, like penalty in soccer).
Example in soccer should be team 1 vs team 2 and it's 0:0 in 75 min. of the game! Let's say that team 1 is better and odds are 1.3 for their win, 1.7 draw and 2.5 on team 2 to win! So you wish to place bet team 1 to win and in that moments team 1 scores your bet will not be accepted, but if team 2 scores (which means you will lose your bet most likely) your bet will be processed.

[Fredomago]

I don't like live bets, so frankly, it's hard for me to understand what's the problem here. I read the original post, the explanation of Betcoin and many posts in this discussion, but if ralle14 did not understand it right (and it seems that he's not the only one who interpreted it this way), neither did I. I support the idea with the video, it would really help to see what goes supposedly wrong and to compare it with other websites. I could then try to do my own little experiment on Sportsbet.io and tell you whether it had the same process or not.

Live betting can be interesting sometimes! If I understood it correctly, the problem here is a bet processing! Basically in live betting odds are changing all the time, so you can't place bet in some moments (betting can be locked for several reasons I guess, but the main one is result change or something that can affect it, like penalty in soccer).
Example in soccer should be team 1 vs team 2 and it's 0:0 in 75 min. of the game! Let's say that team 1 is better and odds are 1.3 for their win, 1.7 draw and 2.5 on team 2 to win! So you wish to place bet team 1 to win and in that moments team 1 scores your bet will not be accepted, but if team 2 scores (which means you will lose your bet most likely) your bet will be processed.

I don't  know if that's  a delay  or completely  manipulated,   the house should reject  the bet or cancel  instead of the system to wait. It's the risk  of playing  inside live betting  as chances  of  experiencing the same  fate may take place,  its very  annoying  when you are waiting  for your bet to  take place  but due to continuous changes  from odd the system  are not accepting  your bet.

The bad thing  is when  the opposing  team or player  already  scored  and the pick finally  accepted and deducted  to your balance,  you need to observe  the game in a much earlier  time  just incase changes  happened  you can adjust  then place your bet.

[Haunebu]

I'm wondering why you are waiting until the match is under-way to place a wager?  With the exception of a late scratching, or a player being injured (or rain or something along those lines) I would have thought your mind would be made up before the game starts.

Live betting has its perks when compared to prematch betting. You probably are unaware of the pros related to live betting. It provides additional insurance against risks since sports matches are not always predictable.

The con with live betting is what op went through and this is a common issue with books like Stake etc. Luck matters a lot here. Many punters make a living through live bets on exchanges, books etc.

[FontSeli]

Our life is short. So there's no need to waste time on things we don't like. If you think that the site bets are not made correctly or you just don't understand how it works, it's easier to leave than to find out for a long time whether they work correctly or not.

People do some crazy things in life and others think about experimenting things on new platforms they see that's why there are others who like to visit in some new site since there are few people believe on beginners luck beliefs. But if the budget is limited and cannot afford to lose more faster maybe you are right to leave on the things we don't know since by their we can avoid such unnecessary losses which the new site offers which confuse us.

Maybe I am getting older. This is why I am becoming more and more conservative. If I like sites where I already play, I will never go looking for new sites for gambling. Even if they will offer very large bonuses. Why waste time getting used to the interface, to check user feedback about a gambling site, if you were satisfied with everything on previous sites?

[BTCGOLD]

Our life is short. So there's no need to waste time on things we don't like. If you think that the site bets are not made correctly or you just don't understand how it works, it's easier to leave than to find out for a long time whether they work correctly or not.

People do some crazy things in life and others think about experimenting things on new platforms they see that's why there are others who like to visit in some new site since there are few people believe on beginners luck beliefs. But if the budget is limited and cannot afford to lose more faster maybe you are right to leave on the things we don't know since by their we can avoid such unnecessary losses which the new site offers which confuse us.

Maybe I am getting older. This is why I am becoming more and more conservative. If I like sites where I already play, I will never go looking for new sites for gambling. Even if they will offer very large bonuses. Why waste time getting used to the interface, to check user feedback about a gambling site, if you were satisfied with everything on previous sites?

I always thought I was the only one who had that aging problem. But luckily I found another fellow sufferer, hehe. Getting older also has its advantage.

[Maasdamer]

stake.com does this all the time to me.

When something good for my pick happens bet gets cancelled while processing. If something bad is happening the bets gets accepted although the line went up and I got the worse odds.

Very shady and happening over and over again. Happens at basketball and tennis for me.

[gadado]

stake.com does this all the time to me.

When something good for my pick happens bet gets cancelled while processing. If something bad is happening the bets gets accepted although the line went up and I got the worse odds.

Very shady and happening over and over again. Happens at basketball and tennis for me.

More and more I read annoying and bad stories about bookmakers on this site. Even about sites that have been around for years. it would be nice if we could get a little more confidence in bookies, but that they are doing this trick that's a bad sign. Maybe they can come up with an explanation. What Stake.com did, looks like fraud?

[FontSeli]

Maybe I am getting older. This is why I am becoming more and more conservative. If I like sites where I already play, I will never go looking for new sites for gambling. Even if they will offer very large bonuses. Why waste time getting used to the interface, to check user feedback about a gambling site, if you were satisfied with everything on previous sites?

I always thought I was the only one who had that aging problem. But luckily I found another fellow sufferer, hehe. Getting older also has its advantage.

There are so many of us.    It's enough to reach the comfort zone to relax and start enjoying yourself, as well as to get frozen in your habits. Nevertheless, I try to follow the news in areas that interest me. But I've learned for myself a long time ago that if you don't understand something and you can't understand it, it's better to leave this site with bets and place your bets elsewhere.