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March 24, 2014, 04:23:27 PM |
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Best Healthcare In The World------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NHS hospitals burned the bodies of dead babies to heat buildings, a documentary into stillbirth and miscarriages has revealed. Britain’s Got Talent judge Amanda Holden took part in a Channel 4 Dispatches investigation to the treatment of parents who lose children during pregnancy. Filmmakers working on Amanda Holden: Exposing Hospital Heartache discovered that the bodies of thousands of aborted and miscarried foetuses were burned as clinical waste in hospitals across the UK, with some being used to heat NHS buildings. According to the Telegraph, 10 NHS trusts admitted to burning foetuses with other waste products. Two trusts said the remains were used in “waste-to-energy plants” that generate power from burning rubbish. The documentary shows how over the remains of over 15,000 babies were incinerated in the last two years. The Department of Health issued an instant ban on the practice, with health minister Dan Poulter saying the practice was “totally unacceptable”. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/uk-hospitals-burned-dead-babies-heat-buildings-documentary-reveals-1441559
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March 24, 2014, 04:36:12 PM |
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I always assumed this is what happens, is this news or is it supposed to be chocking or something?
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March 24, 2014, 04:56:19 PM |
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I always assumed this is what happens, is this news or is it supposed to be chocking or something?
Not for you it is not. If you ever go to a steakhouse near an hospital in the UK, dont' ask for the baby back ribs...
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March 24, 2014, 04:58:33 PM |
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Well what else do you want to do with them?
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March 24, 2014, 07:35:41 PM |
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Hey Wilikon, at least we don't eat them like the Venezuelans do their babies ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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March 24, 2014, 08:14:27 PM |
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So what should be done with tumors and such which are removed from you?
It comes to quetion of personhood I think...
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March 24, 2014, 09:19:10 PM |
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But of course the hospitals need to be honest about what's happening, and to give people the choice. That's what the problem was here. It's a pity that the practise has been made illegal as a result.
Yeah, I think this is key. Indeed. Since it was such a good idea, and kept the buildings toasty warm, what do you say about expanding the practice? Some of the live ones...you know...really are not needed any more.... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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March 24, 2014, 09:47:26 PM |
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Hey Wilikon, at least we don't eat them like the Venezuelans do their babies ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) All Venezuelan female babies have socialist free breast implants for being a potential Miss Universe one day. As such it is forbidden to eat them to eliminate the risk of silicon contamination in the food chain. Every Brits should know that basic fact, from one world best universal healthcare to another...
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March 24, 2014, 09:59:35 PM |
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I always assumed this is what happens, is this news or is it supposed to be chocking or something?
Not for you it is not. If you ever go to a steakhouse near an hospital in the UK, dont' ask for the baby back ribs... Best LOL of the week so far ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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March 25, 2014, 01:24:47 AM |
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Indeed. Since it was such a good idea, and kept the buildings toasty warm, what do you say about expanding the practice? Some of the live ones...you know...really are not needed any more... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Oh you're just being silly now - you're implying that there's some kind of slippery slope from burning dead bodies to burning people alive? It's obviously fine to burn dead bodies (lots of people do it to their relatives anyway).... So why are poor people whose relatives cannot be found buried? Hint: There is a reason...
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March 25, 2014, 04:41:26 AM |
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Well... some people cremate dead bodies. This was no different, as long as conducted in a respectful way.
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March 25, 2014, 11:40:34 AM |
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Well... some people cremate dead bodies. This was no different, as long as conducted in a respectful way.
Oh? So your views apply, well, to anyone, including of course those who disagree with you?
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March 25, 2014, 12:07:27 PM |
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I think this is immoral and unethical. Those should be given proper burial. They are burning those bodies like garbage not acceptable.
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March 25, 2014, 02:20:25 PM |
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Well... some people cremate dead bodies. This was no different, as long as conducted in a respectful way.
Oh? So your views apply, well, to anyone, including of course those who disagree with you? .... I'm begging you please don't go there -_-
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March 25, 2014, 03:29:07 PM |
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The bodies wouldn't be providing any heat. It takes far more energy to make a body burn (you gotta vaporize off all the water first) than you get out of the burning.
What they're getting heat out of is the waste heat from the natural gas-fired incinerator. Around here, they use the heat to run a little (a few hundred kilowatts) generator.
I have to wonder what the minister (who is apparently a medical doctor, and thus really should know better) thinks should be done with medical waste. He appears to think it just vanishes when he tosses it in the biological waste bag.
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March 25, 2014, 04:16:12 PM |
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The bodies wouldn't be providing any heat. It takes far more energy to make a body burn (you gotta vaporize off all the water first) than you get out of the burning.
What they're getting heat out of is the waste heat from the natural gas-fired incinerator. Around here, they use the heat to run a little (a few hundred kilowatts) generator.
I have to wonder what the minister (who is apparently a medical doctor, and thus really should know better) thinks should be done with medical waste. He appears to think it just vanishes when he tosses it in the biological waste bag.
So burning babies is slowing down the process of heating buildings. You need more energy, not less. Not really cost effective nor green nor smart.
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March 25, 2014, 05:37:54 PM |
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Why is this news?
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March 25, 2014, 05:40:35 PM |
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Obviously they are not using babies for heat. They are incinerating them as per legal requirements dealing with bodies. They surely also burn tumors, severed limbs, etc. Kinda gross, but not as shocking as it sounds.
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March 25, 2014, 06:05:18 PM |
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NHS hospitals burned the bodies of dead babies to heat buildings, a documentary into stillbirth and miscarriages has revealed.
As horrible as that is, are these bodies/remains that the parents are still claiming, or are these leftover bodies/remains that the hospital has to figure out what to do with? Not saying it's a good, honorable, or respectable practice by any means, but if someone doesn't like whats being done, maybe they should claim responsibility for the bodies themselves? I mean these hospitals have to get rid of biological waste somehow, I can't imagine they happen to own endless fields that they can fill up with graves (especially in over-populated Britian).
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April 04, 2014, 06:43:22 PM |
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Obviously they are not using babies for heat. They are incinerating them as per legal requirements dealing with bodies. They surely also burn tumors, severed limbs, etc. Kinda gross, but not as shocking as it sounds.
The title of the thread obviously says they did, base on Filmmakers working on Amanda Holden: Exposing Hospital Heartache discovered that the bodies of thousands of aborted and miscarried foetuses were burned as clinical waste in hospitals across the UK, with some being used to heat NHS buildings
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