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bitmover sorry for being such a pain but it seems like something is off with the unit conversion[1][2] - For the past couple of hours I'm not able to get any fiat exchange. I've already tried with different browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Edge) and the value doesn't appear in any of them. I've checked the status of exchangerate.host but everything seems to be fine on their end:
I am happy to see you are using it! It is working now in my mobild, can you check again? If it is not working, please right click and click Inspect (anywhere in the page). A new side bar will open. Click in in Network and reload. do you see any error in any api? Well, the issue seems to have sorted itself out. I swear that yesterday I've tried every browser in every device that I have and I couldn't get the exchange to work. Happy to report that it appears to work correctly now, thank you for the awesome support bitmover! bitmover, did you do an analysis of the site and your traffic? how many of them are automatic visits, or bot visits, how long do visitors stay on the page, do they make additional clicks ... it may be important to introduce you to potential buyers of ad space on your site.
I would definitely consider adding advertisements from some of the ad networks. AdSense can be a good start, you definitely have solid traffic, to begin with. I would also not overlook the possibility of an affiliate program. For example, BestChange offers such a possibility, and I'd say you're targeting a similar type of visitor. they seem open to any quality cooperation, I would not be surprised if you make a special deal.
These are quite good advises if you're looking to take some profit out of your website bitmover. If the KPI's that examplens shared with you aren't enough, why not gather (and present) the same information that theymos uses[1] to attract ads for the forum? I find that the audience is the same so the KPI's reported by him are what people search for in order to evaluate if it's worth for them to pay you to show your users ads of their company (you could also take a peek at how Blockchair present their statistics to potential advertisers here[2]). Perhaps, as a starting point, I would ask in the service board if some advertiser within bitcointalk would be interested in advertising in your website as well. You could also try to post your stats on social networks such as Reddit (specific subs where this kind of action is allowed) or Twitter to gather attention of a wider audience ...
[1] https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats[2] https://blockchair.com/advertise
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i have seen a big increase in visitors recently (6k unique visitors and 55k request every month)
i am thinking about somehow to monetize this website, i willl try to rent a space to some companies. i will try to announce in the service board.
sugggestions regarding this are welcome.
May I suggest you don't turn the page into an endless series of meaningless advertisements raping our eyes.
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I watched this topic a long time ago, but I don't remember if I used it, in general the interface is good, but why you didn't mention the names of the currencies instead of referring to them, for example DKK - Danish Krone, COP - Colombian Peso and so on instead of DKK,COP. i have seen a big increase in visitors recently (6k unique visitors and 55k request every month)
i am thinking about somehow to monetize this website, i willl try to rent a space to some companies. i will try to announce in the service board.
sugggestions regarding this are welcome.
You got community support and donations so commercial use of it in this way will not be good. Try to modify the interface, and if you need advertising, make it instead of Supports: AED, AFN, ALL,...etc, with advertisement for open source applications, forum threads and paid advertisements.
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March 24, 2022, 11:10:48 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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I watched this topic a long time ago, but I don't remember if I used it, in general the interface is good, but why you didn't mention the names of the currencies instead of referring to them, for example DKK - Danish Krone, COP - Colombian Peso and so on instead of DKK,COP.
I am not sure if this is what you meant, but I believe the site already includes names of currencies in its interface. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpAbOTJJ.png&t=665&c=kJ_9fFKzsJIZ3Q) When I select a currency, I see the name of the currency and country above the selection box.
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i have seen a big increase in visitors recently (6k unique visitors and 55k request every month)
i am thinking about somehow to monetize this website, i willl try to rent a space to some companies. i will try to announce in the service board.
sugggestions regarding this are welcome.
May I suggest you don't turn the page into an endless series of meaningless advertisements raping our eyes. Actually i don't mind advertising if, 1. The ads doesn't take too much space without any popup. 2. The ads limited to static image only with generic/basic tracking URL (similar with Bitcointalk ads). The image should be stored on your own domain/server. awebsite.com/?utm_source=btcdata awebsite.com/src/btcdata
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March 24, 2022, 11:36:32 AM Last edit: May 14, 2023, 04:26:06 PM by BitcoinGirl.Club |
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I am not sure if this is what you meant, but I believe the site already includes names of currencies in its interface. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F14%2Fblob0568079432b6bc70.png&t=665&c=EKElHqh7gCekyA) When I select a currency, I see the name of the currency and country above the selection box. Since USD is the dominated currency so I think OP just decided to have a separate converting field for it. If we were in Russian domination and the world economy would have Rubel dominance then we would see a Rubel field. If it was China then we would see Yuan 🤪 Overall this is a very useful project. It's a shame that I discovered it today.
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March 24, 2022, 10:33:07 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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Actually i don't mind advertising if, 1. The ads doesn't take too much space without any popup. 2. The ads limited to static image only with generic/basic tracking URL (similar with Bitcointalk ads). The image should be stored on your own domain/server. awebsite.com/?utm_source=btcdata awebsite.com/src/btcdata
I like this idea, as well as the others before it (specially the ones where you should try your best not to spam the website with ads). How about a "meet at halway point" solution? : - Implement a similar ad based strategy as the one employed by bitcointalk - They are stripped to the bare minimum of information being tracked/stored and it doesn't seem to bother the companies which pay advertisement slots, so there could be some room to maneuver there. I do know that examplens covers the costs related with the server[1] and that you've recently paid 5 years to keep the domain[2], but considering examplens previous reply, it seems that he also supports your idea of ad based revenue. At most you can always work on the idea that any donation receive shall be used to cover future improvements for the website, which ends up also helping you as in preventing you from financing additional features with your own money (if needed).
- Implement "Buy me a coffe" feature and - While I know that this wouldn't probably be used - or would be, I tend to see the negative side of people - it's always a direct way that visitors - which aren't used to BTC I guess - would have to donate directly to you.
I wonder, however, if you could share with us the visits based on their location? My guess is that most of them come from USA, followed by China/Russia, but perhaps I'll be surprised!
[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289916.msg57668341#msg57668341[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289916.msg57673376#msg57673376
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These are quite good advises if you're looking to take some profit out of your website bitmover. If the KPI's that examplens shared with you aren't enough, why not gather (and present) the same information that theymos uses[1] to attract ads for the forum? I find that the audience is the same so the KPI's reported by him are what people search for in order to evaluate if it's worth for them to pay you to show your users ads of their company (you could also take a peek at how Blockchair present their statistics to potential advertisers here[2]). Perhaps, as a starting point, I would ask in the service board if some advertiser within bitcointalk would be interested in advertising in your website as well. You could also try to post your stats on social networks such as Reddit (specific subs where this kind of action is allowed) or Twitter to gather attention of a wider audience ...
[1] https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats[2] https://blockchair.com/advertiseYou got community support and donations so commercial use of it in this way will not be good. Try to modify the interface, and if you need advertising, make it instead of Supports: AED, AFN, ALL,...etc, with advertisement for open source applications, forum threads and paid advertisements.
May I suggest you don't turn the page into an endless series of meaningless advertisements raping our eyes.
After careful consideration, and specially because of RickDeckard and hugeblack and Timelord2067 comments, I decided to create small sponsored content in a few pages. The whole idea is based on blockchair.com ads. There is going to be one button of the sponsored content per page, in the main header. Mobile and desktop version of the ads: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FP9FuzIj.png&t=665&c=Yd9N-_yFptwofA) Those ads are not intrusive and they do not hurt user experience IMO. Full details in the bitcointalk service board announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391840.msg59675049#msg59675049and here: https://bitcoindata.science/advertise-here.html
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March 28, 2022, 07:41:52 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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After careful consideration, and specially because of RickDeckard and hugeblack and Timelord2067 comments, I decided to create small sponsored content in a few pages. The whole idea is based on blockchair.com ads.
There is going to be one button of the sponsored content per page, in the main header.
ok, this is a good step with presenting traffic statistics. I made a small oversight, I only saw 55k requests monthly. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You got some good advice from other members, but in real work, some things may be different. For example, the possibility of donation is a good direction, but I’m not sure how stable that income can be and what is the potential of this type of monetization. in addition to donations for domain and hosting, some work and effort have been invested, to be expected more than the "Buy me a coffee" feature as a reward. bitmover, if you strictly follow instructions, all images for ads to be on your side, this means that you will have defined sizes of ads images. it will make it difficult for you to fit everything to be responsive on different screen sizes. You had 25% mobile device users, and you have to pay attention to their UX. This is one of the reasons why I suggest Adsense (as an example). They have responsive ads which will automate adapted to all screen sizes and site design, so it does not deviate much from the context of the page.
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March 28, 2022, 10:03:24 PM Last edit: January 20, 2024, 12:04:37 AM by RickDeckard |
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Thank you for considering our inputs bitmover. Considering what we discussed in the thread, the advertisement space - regarding size - doesn't shock me and I'm assuming you're trying to replicate these banners from blockchair.com: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F01%2F20%2F3Delb.png&t=665&c=uMMTXXQ3zFr_Iw) Or are you considering using a similar approach than the one you use on the "Donation" banner but without the need to click on it? I've also noticed that you've placed the ad slot only on 3 "services" that you run - "Your TX in the mempool", "Balance Check" and "Unit Converter". May I ask why did you choose these ones? Are they the ones responsible for most of your traffic? Regarding the positioning of the ad slot, have you considered placing it on either the right side of the banner or left side? You've got plenty of space there and perhaps you could place the ad slot in either of those spaces to make use of the space (I know the ad slot wouldn't be in the main field of vision though). Also, a personal preference of mine, what do you think of rounding up the corners of the ad slots button and the donate button? That design always looks more aesthetic to me than the straight lines from a rectangle but I reckon it can vary amongst users...
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I've also noticed that you've placed the ad slot only on 3 "services" that you run - "Your TX in the mempool", "Balance Check" and "Unit Converter". May I ask why did you choose these ones? Are they the ones responsible for most of your traffic? Yes, those are responsible for the main traffic. Regarding the positioning of the ad slot, have you considered placing it on either the right side of the banner or left side? You've got plenty of space there and perhaps you could place the ad slot in either of those spaces to make use of the space (I know the ad slot wouldn't be in the main field of vision though). Also, a personal preference of mine, what do you think of rounding up the corners of the ad slots button and the donate button? That design always looks more aesthetic to me than the straight lines from a rectangle but I reckon it can vary amongst users...
Additionally, I will in a few weeks redesign the whole website and remove some of the other links, and maybe add new ones. I have a few new design ideas and tools ideas. bitmover, if you strictly follow instructions, all images for ads to be on your side, this means that you will have defined sizes of ads images. it will make it difficult for you to fit everything to be responsive on different screen sizes. You had 25% mobile device users, and you have to pay attention to their UX. This is one of the reasons why I suggest Adsense (as an example). They have responsive ads which will automate adapted to all screen sizes and site design, so it does not deviate much from the context of the page.
I think those ads from cointraffic, adsense, etc are ugly and they pay too low... This is why people add lots of them (and big ones) to get more money. As I have strong community support and donations are not insignificant (about 220 usd in two years, 3CrySAp8G1PfvjrYT4HPQhE8MouBKWd9WB) I will try to keep this business model. Let's see if any company from bitcointalk is interested.
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August 15, 2022, 11:57:18 PM Last edit: January 20, 2024, 12:02:41 AM by RickDeckard Merited by bitmover (2), dkbit98 (1) |
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I've been watching the website and sadly it seems that you haven't found a client to advertise in it bitmover... Don't loose your hopes, I'm sure that eventually someone will appear! On a second note, am I the only one that doesn't get a graph whenever I click on the "1M" option? (all the other adjust options get adjusted accordingly) I've tried Firefox and Edge and both return this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F01%2F20%2F3DrZf.png&t=665&c=GwNdtAJGz_pt8A) I suppose that something has to be off due to the fact that the Y axis only shows segments of $ 1K... Sorry for being a pain in the a** bitmover!
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I suppose that something has to be off due to the fact that the Y axis only shows segments of $ 1K... Sorry for being a pain in the a** bitmover!
yes, this happens to me too, but only on a monthly period selected. 6M, YTD, 1Y and max work fine. bitmover, now I noticed that all your external links open in the same window. you need to change that and add an opening in the new tab/window. adding target="_blank" in the link will solve it. You don't want your visitors to leave your site just because they want to know what is satoshi (unit) definition on Wikipedia is.
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I suppose that something has to be off due to the fact that the Y axis only shows segments of $ 1K... Sorry for being a pain in the a** bitmover!
Thanks for pointing this out. I found this was a problem with the API I was using. Coindesk abandoned the API and they stopped to make price updates exactly at 17-07-2022 For now, I just removed the chart. This is not important as it is very easy to find a bitcoin chart anywhere. I will redesign this website in a few months and try to create something new. I will find some interesting framework that I want to learn and redesign it from scratch. I will probably do it using React and bootstrap 5 or material design ui
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