tranthidung (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2380
Merit: 4183
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 06:48:24 AM |
|
I don't complicate things so let's keep it simple with pure charts. Each viewers will watch and interpret them in their own perspectives. - Bitcoin Dominance reaches its temp resistance.
- Altcoin dominance might bounce back
- DeFi might rise higher before being pulled back or it will be pulled back very soon
- Don't forget to exclude the large portions of DeFi from Altcoin dominance.
What does it mean? - Bitcoin might rise higher after hours ago correction
- Altcoin bounce back to come but not too soon
- DeFi game won't last for too long
It is my own thoughts! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
|
|
|
|
samcrypto
Sr. Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 2044
Merit: 314
Vave.com - Crypto Casino
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 07:19:28 AM |
|
The next trend will determine only by time and we can just speculate right now. People are so excited again to see the new peak for bitcoin and we still have time to see that until the end of the year, though the chart may send a more up trend, we can't tell this easily since the market moves on every news that we have. Though of course I'm still bullish with bitcoin, altcoins, and I'm also hoping that good DeFi project will last since I'm holding some of them and I know they will continue to grow over time.
|
|
|
|
CapGelatik
Full Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 1064
Merit: 100
Combo Network
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 11:05:30 AM |
|
maybe DEX will become a hype in the coming year, especially since Uniswap has already started how DEX can be successful when DEFI experiences Fomo now, I guarantee DEX will be the next Hype.
|
|
|
|
ScamViruS
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 11:38:22 AM |
|
maybe DEX will become a hype in the coming year, especially since Uniswap has already started how DEX can be successful when DEFI experiences Fomo now, I guarantee DEX will be the next Hype.
Maybe you're right. Different types of hype are created in the market from time to time and as a result up trend is seen in the market. With uniswap, a lot has already happened in the market and many people have got big free money. It is difficult to predict which will have an impact on the market in the future.
|
|
|
|
noorman0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 12:32:10 PM |
|
maybe DEX will become a hype in the coming year, especially since Uniswap has already started how DEX can be successful when DEFI experiences Fomo now, I guarantee DEX will be the next Hype.
Actually, dex has tried to keep up with the defi hypestream during 2020. In my opinion, DEX is not a good business to get more profits quickly like defi. Also, too much of that dex will threaten the survival of the exchanges themselves as they depend on the liquidity pool. And exchanges must compete with each other to offer attractive rewards for liquidity providers. You need to read the latest news about Uniswap here https://cointelegraph.com/news/uniswap-s-liquidity-plunges-40-in-a-day-as-incentives-dry-up
|
This space for rent. Available in mid January 2024 - PM me
|
|
|
joniboini
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1802
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 03:28:58 PM |
|
especially since Uniswap has already started how DEX can be successful when DEFI experiences Fomo now, I guarantee DEX will be the next Hype.
On what basis? CEXs are starting to copy what those DEXes did, and I bet most traders still look for liquidity with low cost for trading. I honestly hope the next bull run will be fueled by utilities and fundamental usages instead of hype.
|
| | . .Duelbits. | │ | ..........UNLEASH.......... THE ULTIMATE GAMING EXPERIENCE | │ | DUELBITS FANTASY SPORTS | ████▄▄▄█████▄▄▄ ░▄████████████████▄ ▐██████████████████▄ ████████████████████ ████████████████████▌ █████████████████████ ████████████████▀▀▀ ███████████████▌ ███████████████▌ ████████████████ ████████████████ ████████████████ ████▀▀███████▀▀ | . ▬▬ VS ▬▬ | ████▄▄▄█████▄▄▄ ░▄████████████████▄ ▐██████████████████▄ ████████████████████ ████████████████████▌ █████████████████████ ███████████████████ ███████████████▌ ███████████████▌ ████████████████ ████████████████ ████████████████ ████▀▀███████▀▀ | /// PLAY FOR FREE /// WIN FOR REAL | │ | ..PLAY NOW.. | |
|
|
|
boyptc
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 04:14:41 PM |
|
IMO, the next trend will be the same as the cycle before. What if ICO will come back in life and PayPal will start it out? Citibank is also showing the sign of its interest or they have already had an entry to it and they'll start the same hype as before? Just my thought too. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
|
|
|
|
el kaka22
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3626
Merit: 1165
www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 04:49:22 PM |
|
I believe defi will definitely reach to a level where they will have some sort of pull back from this level and they are not going to end up with anything lower than that and not going to have a higher but at the end of the day it is going to have some sort of steady going. Like sure it is not going to be this high, but it is not going to die down neither, it is going to be like 70% or so levels of this and they are going to end up with that 70% of today's volume for a very very long time.
DEX is not there to leave for example, and there could be some defi tokens that will go down but there will be ones that will go up, and we are just going to accept it as it is. Remember we all talk about ICO world and how we moved away from it but there are tons of ICO coins that still exist today and high levels.
|
|
|
|
durilup
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 05:28:41 PM |
|
IMO, the next trend will be the same as the cycle before. What if ICO will come back in life and PayPal will start it out? Citibank is also showing the sign of its interest or they have already had an entry to it and they'll start the same hype as before? Just my thought too. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) PayPal was hiring blockchain developers back in 2017 . I am more than sure they already developed a project for 2021 year also if I am not wrong people from US can buy crypto through PayPal . About ICO I am not sure if there will be still a hype for this since DeFi replaced it
|
|
|
|
Sterbens
Sr. Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 1848
Merit: 341
Duelbits.com
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 06:21:06 PM |
|
The next trend will determine only by time and we can just speculate right now. People are so excited again to see the new peak for bitcoin and we still have time to see that until the end of the year, though the chart may send a more up trend, we can't tell this easily since the market moves on every news that we have. Though of course I'm still bullish with bitcoin, altcoins, and I'm also hoping that good DeFi project will last since I'm holding some of them and I know they will continue to grow over time.
very excited. that's what everyone said including my friends. they were like being given a breath of fresh air to see the price of bitcoin touch the new ATH. current trends largely determine future movements. facing the biitcoin surge. I don't think which one will trend and go with bitcoin, the important thing is that right now we are really going to have a very exciting moment.
|
| | | . Duelbits│SPORTS | | | | ▄▄▄███████▄▄▄ ▄▄█████████████████▄▄ ▄███████████████████████▄ ███████████████████████████ █████████████████████████████ ███████████████████████████████ ███████████████████████████████ ███████████████████████████████ █████████████████████████████ ███████████████████████████ ▀████████████████████████ ▀▀███████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ | | | | ██ ██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██ | | | | ███▄██▄███▄█▄▄▄▄██▄▄▄██ ███▄██▀▄█▄▀███▄██████▄█ █▀███▀██▀████▀████▀▀▀██ ██▀ ▀██████████████████ ███▄███████████████████ ███████████████████████ ███████████████████████ ███████████████████████ ███████████████████████ ███████████████████████ ▀█████████████████████▀ ▀▀███████████████▀▀ ▀▀▀▀█▀▀▀▀ | | OFFICIAL EUROPEAN BETTING PARTNER OF ASTON VILLA FC | | | | ██ ██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██ | | | | 10% CASHBACK 100% MULTICHARGER | | │ | | | | │ |
|
|
|
Kupid002
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 06:43:01 PM |
|
IMO, the next trend will be the same as the cycle before. What if ICO will come back in life and PayPal will start it out? Citibank is also showing the sign of its interest or they have already had an entry to it and they'll start the same hype as before? Just my thought too. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) PayPal was hiring blockchain developers back in 2017 . I am more than sure they already developed a project for 2021 year also if I am not wrong people from US can buy crypto through PayPal . About ICO I am not sure if there will be still a hype for this since DeFi replaced it Even defi will also replace with another new hype project sooner or later. Since the trend almost ended and only few investors will continue investing in them because more traders will now focus on Bitcoin and other popular crypto currency to secure a profit if the bull run market will continue . In ICO it all depends how they secure it to investors and BTW the ETH 2.0 will release soon I think this will help to boost the interest of investors in the ETH platform.
|
|
|
|
J1mb0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 07:49:04 PM |
|
IMO, the next trend will be the same as the cycle before. What if ICO will come back in life and PayPal will start it out? Citibank is also showing the sign of its interest or they have already had an entry to it and they'll start the same hype as before? Just my thought too. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It is difficult for ICOs to get back to the way they were in 2017, investors are tired of the promises of ICOs and they don't want to invest in new ICO projects. I don't know what the next crypto market trend is, but I will continue to invest in the top altcoins in today's market.
|
|
|
|
Nellayar
Full Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 868
Merit: 185
Roobet supporter and player!
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 18, 2020, 08:08:56 PM |
|
Bitcoin is really kicking the altcoins out of the market. It showed how he coined "King of Cryptocurrency" because whenever he moves, altcoins despair from their lights. Altcoins are really down today, I bought some altcoins yesterday because I want to utilize my investment to my coins. However, I allocated lots of my capital in bitcoin. Defi hype is over, no one is staying in cryptocurrency. All of the sudden it becomes the trend but it immediately fades. What's next? The next thing is that we prepare for a potential ath of bitcoin and ethereum. Altcoins will surely follow after their dominance.
|
|
|
|
tranthidung (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2380
Merit: 4183
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 19, 2020, 01:03:23 AM |
|
On what basis? CEXs are starting to copy what those DEXes did, and I bet most traders still look for liquidity with low cost for trading.
I honestly hope the next bull run will be fueled by utilities and fundamental usages instead of hype.
Who will need DEX? I remembered I read a discussion about it on the forum weeks ago. After DeFi plummeted, the reason was raised again that whether DEXes are better than CEXes and who will need DEXes. It does not take into account the fact that most of self-claim DEXes are actually not decentralized platforms at all. Flippening: Crypto Decentralized Exchanges Grew More Than Centralized Ones In Q3 2020IMO, the next trend will be the same as the cycle before.
What if ICO will come back in life and PayPal will start it out? Citibank is also showing the sign of its interest or they have already had an entry to it and they'll start the same hype as before?
My thought is it depends on the trend of the market: bull or bear. Big positive news always boosts the market up but its effects often are bigger in bull trend and smaller in bear trend. The same goes for negative news. Companies come and go and news are from them and their future development plan, more products for bitcoin/ crypto are only reasons whales use to boost the market and retailers wait for such news to FOMO. I believe defi will definitely reach to a level where they will have some sort of pull back from this level and they are not going to end up with anything lower than that and not going to have a higher but at the end of the day it is going to have some sort of steady going. Like sure it is not going to be this high, but it is not going to die down neither, it is going to be like 70% or so levels of this and they are going to end up with that 70% of today's volume for a very very long time.
Correct. It is what I am talking about in OP. DeFi hits their so-called resistance and bitcoin reaches its temp resistance in dominance. They should be pulled back. Unfortunately, the large capital (market cap) of DeFi (they are altcoins too) bias the domination rates and these contributors might give bitcoin a force to rise up more. Of course, it is only one side of the story and at the end, it depends on how whales will do next? Just note it and wait for the market actions. DEX is not there to leave for example, and there could be some defi tokens that will go down but there will be ones that will go up, and we are just going to accept it as it is.
They will exist but to say big success or a new revolution from them to come and will last long, I don't believe in such scenario.
|
|
|
|
boyptc
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 19, 2020, 03:49:47 AM |
|
IMO, the next trend will be the same as the cycle before. What if ICO will come back in life and PayPal will start it out? Citibank is also showing the sign of its interest or they have already had an entry to it and they'll start the same hype as before? Just my thought too. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) PayPal was hiring blockchain developers back in 2017 . I am more than sure they already developed a project for 2021 year also if I am not wrong people from US can buy crypto through PayPal . About ICO I am not sure if there will be still a hype for this since DeFi replaced it I was thinking that the action they've made is for the feature that they've just announced lately. But there is a possibility that they are silently developing another thing and it could be more than that. It is difficult for ICOs to get back to the way they were in 2017, investors are tired of the promises of ICOs and they don't want to invest in new ICO projects. I don't know what the next crypto market trend is, but I will continue to invest in the top altcoins in today's market.
Well, if you PayPal's name on it. Investors will bite it. IMO, the next trend will be the same as the cycle before.
What if ICO will come back in life and PayPal will start it out? Citibank is also showing the sign of its interest or they have already had an entry to it and they'll start the same hype as before?
My thought is it depends on the trend of the market: bull or bear. Big positive news always boosts the market up but its effects often are bigger in bull trend and smaller in bear trend. The same goes for negative news. Companies come and go and news are from them and their future development plan, more products for bitcoin/ crypto are only reasons whales use to boost the market and retailers wait for such news to FOMO. You're right, the trend is bullish this time and more projects could come in and they might create something new which will cause another FOMO for most investors just like those ICO days. It could be or couldn't be the same as the ICO but it will create another hype.
|
|
|
|
davinchi
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1058
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 19, 2020, 02:12:15 PM |
|
"Growing" is a tricky situation in this scenario. Obviously decentralized exchanges became a huge thing, now settling down a bit but they were never really bigger than the centralized ones that long. Anyone who thinks dex ever became bigger than binance doesn't really realize how big binance really is, they are not even compared to each other.
This is why I highly suggest everyone to take a look at dex as something that grew a lot but they were almost non-existent so growing faster wasn't really a problem. Going from 1 million to 100 million means 100x growth whereas going from 1 billion to 1.2 billion is 20% growth whereas one is 99 million grown while other is 200 million grown. So I think cex is still around and will be around for a very very long time.
|
|
|
|
Silberman
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2618
Merit: 1360
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 19, 2020, 10:35:52 PM |
|
especially since Uniswap has already started how DEX can be successful when DEFI experiences Fomo now, I guarantee DEX will be the next Hype.
On what basis? CEXs are starting to copy what those DEXes did, and I bet most traders still look for liquidity with low cost for trading. I honestly hope the next bull run will be fueled by utilities and fundamental usages instead of hype. That is kind of contradictory don't you think? A sudden increase in the price cannot be fuelled by fundamentals, it can be part of the equation but is never going to be the main one, hype is always going to be behind every single bull run in any market, however I agree that decentralized exchanges are probably not going to be at the centre of the next bull run because as you say the moment that they make an innovation centralized exchanges are going to copy it immediately.
|
|
|
|
Viscore
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 19, 2020, 11:06:51 PM |
|
especially since Uniswap has already started how DEX can be successful when DEFI experiences Fomo now, I guarantee DEX will be the next Hype.
On what basis? CEXs are starting to copy what those DEXes did, and I bet most traders still look for liquidity with low cost for trading. I honestly hope the next bull run will be fueled by utilities and fundamental usages instead of hype. I'd rather see like that than seeing it in hypes that burst after and were those late investors suffered losses and fired it back to crypto instead of blaming themselves. But talking about CEXes and DEXes, people will still be choosing decentralized exchanges.
I'd never think that the Defi project will make a recovery after losing its value. But instead to see those potential altcoins rallying this time following the Bitcoin trend as we can see it. This leaves a hope that 2017 will be showing again back this year(if possible) or next year.
|
| . .Duelbits. | │ | | │ | ▄▄█▄▄░░▄▄█▄▄░░▄▄█▄▄ ███░░░░███░░░░███ ▀░░░▀░░▀░░░▀░░▀░░░▀ ▄░░░░░░░░░░░░ ▀██████████ ░░░░░███░░░░▀ ░░█░░░███▄█░░░█ ░░██▌░░███░▀░░██▌ ░█░██░░███░░░█░██ ░█▀▀▀█▌░███░░█▀▀▀█▌ ▄█▄░░░██▄███▄█▄░░▄██▄ ▄███▄ ░░░░▀██▄▀ | . REGIONAL SPONSOR | | ███▀██▀███▀█▀▀▀▀██▀▀▀██ ██░▀░██░█░███░▀██░███▄█ █▄███▄██▄████▄████▄▄▄██ ██▀ ▀███▀▀░▀██▀▀▀██████ ███▄███░▄▀██████▀█▀█▀▀█ ████▀▀██▄▀█████▄█▀███▄█ ███▄▄▄████████▄█▄▀█████ ███▀▀▀████████████▄▀███ ███▄░▄█▀▀▀██████▀▀▀▄███ ███████▄██▄▌████▀▀█████ ▀██▄███▀██▄█▄▄▄██▄████▀ ▀▀██████████▄▄███▀▀ ▀▀▀▀█▀▀▀▀ | . EUROPEAN BETTING PARTNER | |
|
|
|
nelson4lov
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 20, 2020, 12:18:17 AM |
|
According to recent market movements, I think we would see another DeFi bull run before its final demise. DeFi hype is being heavily fueled by the insane gains they are handing out to people participating in these protocols. The question I've always asked myself is where these projects get funds to cover for the insane APYs they offer to their users. I have participated in two - three DeFi protocols and like other projects, it was off to a rocket start but things got slow with the steady inflation and it took a toll on the token price which entered a steady decline. ~Snipped Going from 1 million to 100 million means 100x growth whereas going from 1 billion to 1.2 billion is 20% growth whereas one is 99 million grown while other is 200 million grown. So I think cex is still around and will be around for a very very long time.
The reason why people are still sticking with CEXs instead of DEXs is because of the service they provide. They remove a lot of abstractions and make things easy for users. That's not something you find on these Decentralized exchanges. As a user of both type of exchanges, it's safe to say that both type of exchanges will continue to exist.
|
|
|
|
GreatArkansas
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1365
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
November 20, 2020, 01:36:34 AM |
|
I am curious about the DeFi Index Perpetual Futures by FTX, how it works or what is/are the computations to get the index price? I thought the total volume of Defi is the last chart, the total value locked in DeFi. For me in Bitcoin Dominance, since last month I started to monitor closely it and I really expected it will visit again the 70% level, which it may correct again and fall or breakout with a massive pump again on Bitcoin.
|
█████████████████████████ ████████▀▀████▀▀█▀▀██████ █████▀████▄▄▄▄██████▀████ ███▀███▄████████▄████▀███ ██▀███████████████████▀██ █████████████████████████ █████████████████████████ █████████████████████████ ██▄███████████████▀▀▄▄███ ███▄███▀████████▀███▄████ █████▄████▀▀▀▀████▄██████ ████████▄▄████▄▄█████████ █████████████████████████ | BitList | | █▀▀▀▀ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █▄▄▄▄ | ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ . REAL-TIME DATA TRACKING CURATED BY THE COMMUNITY . ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ | ▀▀▀▀█ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ ▄▄▄▄█ | | List #kycfree Websites |
|
|
|
|