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November 21, 2020, 11:28:19 AM Last edit: November 23, 2020, 11:06:13 AM by LoyceV |
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SOLVED!Please read my update.
What happened: Hi, I submitted a transaction of $7000 (Order ID zvxe87-62gd4c-kulbq7, th id da824c9063bd9aea76a7a84973daa8b3fce596cb8e80b6fa7fd39765299a6fcc) for 15 min of mix-up and still haven't got any funds sent, it's been 10 hours already. This DOES look like an exit scam to me. Mycryptomixer, any comments?
User artsidim sent me his Letter of Guarantee, which I verified. Despite a hefty 4% fee, MyCryptoMixer didn't send anything to the destination address. Scammers Accused Profile Link: MyCryptoMixerReference Link: artsidim's post in MyCryptoMixer's ANN threadAmount Scammed: $7000 $0 Payment Method: Bitcoin Proof of Payment: da824c9063bd9aea76a7a84973daa8b3fce596cb8e80b6fa7fd39765299a6fccWebsites involved: Additional Notes: Quoting and archiving for reference: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
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@artsidim: can you create a type 3 Flag and post the link here? Update: Flag on MyCryptoMixer.
We are one of the few mixers that offer PGP signed Letters of Guarantee which will be valid and honored even if our service goes down. You can still fix this, but this isn't giving much hope: No response from Mycryptomixer support for 24 hrs already.
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I am really looking forward to when MyCryptoMixer will get in touch and somehow comment on this situation and also return everything in full. If this does not happen, then I hope that other users will pay attention to this situation and will not trust them. I do not want to call MyCryptoMixer scammers because I still think that there was some technical error and MyCryptoMixer will fix this situation.
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November 21, 2020, 03:59:58 PM |
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I do not want to call MyCryptoMixer scammers because I still think that there was some technical error and MyCryptoMixer will fix this situation. That would be the preferred outcome indeed, but until then a warning is justified. Negative feedback can be removed, Flags can be withdrawn.
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November 21, 2020, 04:17:47 PM |
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I've sent a PM to MyCryptoMixer regarding this weeks budget for their Signature Campaign. When I get a response (they are not on here too often), I'll bring this topic up too and hopefully we can resolve the situation/get to the bottom of what happened.
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November 21, 2020, 04:26:59 PM |
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I just do hope this doesn't play out like a few other exit scams in the past. 5+ days without response from the support doesn't seem good for business moreover 4 of them were working days. Flag supported and negative feedback left on the profile as a precaution, until the issue gets resolved.
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November 21, 2020, 04:39:59 PM |
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I am really looking forward to when MyCryptoMixer will get in touch and somehow comment on this situation and also return everything in full. If this does not happen, then I hope that other users will pay attention to this situation and will not trust them. I do not want to call MyCryptoMixer scammers because I still think that there was some technical error and MyCryptoMixer will fix this situation.
Please keep patience until Hhampuz got something positive for you. I have just checked their forum account and it was last active on 15 November. I don't know what their support stuffs are doing or ignoring your issue but 24 hour is enough time frame to handle a issue like that. Flag supported from my end and looking forward to see Mycryptomixer explanation about this matter. Negative trust added from my end and i will request everyone who are seeing this topic please don't send any fund to their addresses until the issue solved.
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November 21, 2020, 05:04:59 PM |
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To be honest, I can't believe they will scam for $7000 only. As @artsidim said, still I believe they had a few technical issues. I am expecting the victim will get back his funds. Support flag and left negative feedback for temp warning. If they solve the issue then I will revise everything. Otherwise, it will remain on MyCryptoMixer's profile. Just notify me if in case I miss something.
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November 21, 2020, 08:37:17 PM |
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I don't know if artsidim contacted their support or write them email, but I can see that MyCryptoMixer profile they use was not online in forum for last six days. Let's hope this will be resolved soon, and if not I will support the Flag.
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November 21, 2020, 11:45:35 PM |
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I don't know if artsidim contacted their support or write them email, but I can see that MyCryptoMixer profile they use was not online in forum for last six days.
That's the only hope for OP. Hopefully they will come bacj and resolve the issue. Let's hope this will be resolved soon, and if not I will support the Flag.
Why dude? Waiting for their words to be confirm mean you are giving them more time. Imagine, this is an exit scam but without hearing from them LoyceV didn't create this flag, what would happen? More people would be scammed. Supported the flag.
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November 22, 2020, 05:31:42 PM |
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Why dude? Waiting for their words to be confirm mean you are giving them more time. Imagine, this is an exit scam but without hearing from them LoyceV didn't create this flag, what would happen? More people would be scammed.
It's good that he created Flag and other members supported the flag before, there is still ongoing campaign in forum with Hhampuz and he said he will contact them directly. I am not defending anyone but I have the right to wait before I support any flag.
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November 22, 2020, 05:33:13 PM |
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I am really looking forward to when MyCryptoMixer will get in touch and somehow comment on this situation and also return everything in full. If this does not happen, then I hope that other users will pay attention to this situation and will not trust them. I do not want to call MyCryptoMixer scammers because I still think that there was some technical error and MyCryptoMixer will fix this situation.
It's an interesting case but why did you use this new and not yet reputed service to mix such a big amount? I don"t understand. And btw why are you only newbie here?
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November 22, 2020, 05:45:25 PM |
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Why dude? Waiting for their words to be confirm mean you are giving them more time. Imagine, this is an exit scam but without hearing from them LoyceV didn't create this flag, what would happen? More people would be scammed.
It's good that he created Flag and other members supported the flag before, there is still ongoing campaign in forum with Hhampuz and he said he will contact them directly. I am not defending anyone but I have the right to wait before I support any flag. No one is talking about your right here. Obviously its your own decision to support the flag now or later but RapTarx is telling you about the possibility of scam if we wait for their explanation and response here. If you support the flag now and they resolve this matter then you can delete your opinion later but if you don't do it then more people can use this mixing service by seeing a fresh profile. Hope you got my point.
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November 22, 2020, 05:55:35 PM |
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is there an update from artsidim regarding the issue? I am really looking forward to when MyCryptoMixer will get in touch and somehow comment on this situation and also return everything in full. If this does not happen, then I hope that other users will pay attention to this situation and will not trust them. I do not want to call MyCryptoMixer scammers because I still think that there was some technical error and MyCryptoMixer will fix this situation.
It's an interesting case but why did you use this new and not yet reputed service to mix such a big amount? I don"t understand. they've been around for more than half a year and is still building a reputation and as far as I know, in those months I haven't seen a complaint from users(at least here in the forum). and as you can see artsidim trusted it enough to mix that much money. And btw why are you only newbie here?
I don't see why his account being a newbie is an issue?
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November 22, 2020, 06:07:17 PM |
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I got a reply from MyCryptoMixer just now, and if this was an exit scam I don't believe they'd ever contact me again let alone login to their bitcointalk account, so I'm hopeful that this can be resolved! Here's the basic explanation I got, and I tend to believe it: "There was an error that made the system lose a lot of transactions. Working on a fix now and will start responding to emails / posts." Let's try and keep it civil and everyone can hopefully walk away from this happy/relieved ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 22, 2020, 06:18:28 PM |
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I got a reply from MyCryptoMixer just now, and if this was an exit scam I don't believe they'd ever contact me again I have to disagree here: I've seen delaying tactics before, and if it is indeed an exit scam, they have a very good reason to try to trick a few more people. I'm hopeful that this can be resolved! Me too ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Here's the basic explanation I got, and I tend to believe it:
"There was an error that made the system lose a lot of transactions. Working on a fix now and will start responding to emails / posts." Any word on why they took so long to respond? Especially when there's "an error", they should be right on top of it. Let's try and keep it civil I forgot to self-moderate this topic, but so far it's pretty civil ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
As for supporting the Flag: there's no rush! Once it was active, I removed the request to support it from the title. In similar cases that did get resolved it sometimes took a long time to withdraw all negative feedback and Flag Support. I'm keeping an eye on the destination address, once it gets funded I'll post here.
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Hello,
Sorry for the long delay but I had to be away from PC since last weekend. This is a one man operation to keep the highest privacy possible. Sometimes things outside your control just happen and there is nothing you can do.
As for the transaction, it was not processed properly. The reason being a memory leak preventing our system from registering new transactions.
The system have successfully restored itself after 28 hours and all transactions have been processed retroactively. We delete transaction info after 24 hours, meaning the transactions confirmed within 4 hours window after the incident were lost. Automatic system checks have been modified to avoid such losses in the feature.
I am currently browsing through the contacts for any reports, dispatching the funds manually. Please send me the LoG so I know where to send the funds. If you wish for the funds to be send to a different address than the ones specified in the LoG, please attach a message with new destination address. The message must be BTC encrypted with the sender address or one of destinations specified in the LoG.
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November 22, 2020, 07:02:46 PM |
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After a longer analysis I have identified 2 other transactions like this, all being much smaller amounts.
I am really sorry for the arising situation, considering the hundreds of transactions processed without any troubles and a few dozen automatically restored after the failure, a result of only 3 stray transactions is very positive. Lesson have been learned and hopefully in the future no transaction will be lost in unexpected scenario as the one here.
Currently waiting for contact with LoG's in order to refund these orders.
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November 22, 2020, 07:10:10 PM |
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Please send me the LoG so I know where to send the funds. That's not mine to give, but you should have an email from artsidim already: I will gladly provide it to support service but these guys do not reply to emails. Sometimes things outside your control just happen and there is nothing you can do. That is the best possible outcome indeed, but I hope you understand a warning was/is in place too.
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November 22, 2020, 07:19:03 PM |
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Please send me the LoG so I know where to send the funds. That's not mine to give, but you should have an email from artsidim already: I will gladly provide it to support service but these guys do not reply to emails. Sometimes things outside your control just happen and there is nothing you can do. That is the best possible outcome indeed, but I hope you understand a warning was/is in place too. Hey LoyceV! Artsidim indeed sent us an email on the 17.11 but he did not include his Letter of Guarantee there, only the Order ID which expired by now. Waiting for him here! It's understandable with such warning considering the downtime and other services exit scamming, fortunately we're here to stay ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 22, 2020, 08:12:56 PM |
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It's understandable with such warning considering the downtime and other services exit scamming, fortunately we're here to stay ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Aaaaaaand, he was never heard from again.
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