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November 23, 2020, 06:48:25 PM
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I think you are wrong OP with those bloggers, youtubers and free lancers are also doing their things as a job. They could not earn if they do not make some videos, articles or some sort of informational substance that will be cast to the community or the audience of that certain platform. They earn through the ads that pop out and the number of ads that will going to advertise will also determine their profit. If you wanted to have a passive income then invest on things that can earn you even without doing nothing.
I agree 100%
They ARE earning a living doing what they do. The fact they they love their work is of course a huge perk but for this discussion is also beside the point - it is still a job.

Based on the fact that as head of R&D and systems design/building (industrial lasers) I could say that I've been 'jobless' for almost 42 years because since founding our company in 1978 along with another Engineer I answer to no one aside from our customers and my company bottom-line. Yes, I love my JOB.

If you stop posting/making vids/day trading/ whatever, guess what - ya soon run out of money....

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November 23, 2020, 06:57:25 PM
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 Grin Grin Grin
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No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
Wow 10 good years without a job?, I bet you must be doing something that pays better than those jobs out there, indeed the job market is a joke that's why I didn't bother to look for one when I got to the age, jobs are just overhyped with little or no freedom, always answering to someone "YOUR BOSS" who pays you little amount of money after you help him make sh*t load of money, thanks to bitcoin I'm doing what I love which is trading and investing,i have all the freedom i need, I don't answer to anyone, neither do u have to wait till weekends to spend time with my family Wink.

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November 23, 2020, 07:20:34 PM
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No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
It must be said that this has to depend on each person's luck. Grin
Because if we are unemployed for 10 years, we will definitely have no money and everyone will look at us with scornful eyes. Anyway, I still see the jobs are very important, they help us to make money and do the things we love and does not necessarily bring us success.
At the same time, participating in the labor market is also a way for us to directly contribute to a more developed economy.


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November 23, 2020, 07:28:59 PM
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Why is it a joke? I feel the job market is good because it gives us the opportunity to thrive in an environment that you love.
Being in the labor force is not a joke, and OP is in the minority with his opinion--but he's certainly entitled to it.

Not everyone wants to trade, mine crypto, or whatever else you can do from home, and certainly a lot of people have enough knowledge/talent to make a living without having to get a job.  Nor would the world even function properly if people didn't work.  There would be no Amazon, no grocery stores, nobody manufacturing automobiles or anything else...so there's that.

I think OP is a complete fucking liar, though.  If he's claiming he's been supporting himself for the past 10 years with no job, I'd like to see some proof of that--or else it's just hot air being blown up everyone's asses.  And what are you doing for health insurance?

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November 23, 2020, 09:27:10 PM
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That will be a challenge to tell old people to make some income over the internet

Pretty close to impossible challenge. I even had a hard time teaching my grandma how to properly order an uber let alone some magical money from the internet. Thats not going to happen atleast for the old generation.

it might even be a challenge to tell your teacher too that you don’t need to go to school to get a job because you have internet income! That’s sound bizarre you are living a totally isolated world that very few people know about it, but it has been around for quite some time.

You still need to go to school though. The only reason that you care to make some money is because you go to school and understand completely that your food on the plate as well as all those bills are not free. If you dont go to school at all, I doubt that you will even have the ambition to earn some money . You probably will turn into some cheeky rascal that will live on your parent's house forever without ever thinking of paying your own bill

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November 23, 2020, 10:11:35 PM
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That is a pretty tough task to be done surviving your life being jobless for 10 years and that can be already considered as an achievement for surviving despite of being jobless. Maybe you are doing lots of things where you can still earn for a living and that makes you a tough one to consider yourself on surviving this difficult life where every individuals are seeking for a decent job to start with so they can have a fruitful life where they can have money to spend for their experiences.

But for a normal individual, it is nearly quite impossible to survive on a normal day having no job because there are lots of expenses to spend with specially now that the prices of commodities and basic needs are increasing due to some contributing factors. It is pretty awesome to hear that someone just survived 10 years being jobless but still that does not call for encouragement for you still must seek for a decent job where you can certainly rely so you can feel security as well as comfort that you have something to be a source of money for your daily life expenses. Having a job is still a must have no matter what it is as long as it is legible.

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November 23, 2020, 10:44:18 PM
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I am one of those people who don't dare to take risks, so I always live my life in a safe way. Then knowing the opening post jobless
for 10 years and surviving is a very good achievement in my opinion. Because not everyone dares to do that, the thought of the opening
post regarding the world of work is very different from people in general. So on the other hand what the opening post did really inspired me,
but I was too scared to follow it.

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November 24, 2020, 12:39:28 AM
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I’m sure YouTube didn’t start out as a job for commoners, since google acquire it and monetise the video content, a lot of talents come to it and make freelance musics content, namely VEVO etc, and it was a booming business during its peak. The same with gaming, gamers didn’t get paid for playing games, they’re doing it just to not get bored, and it’s absolutely intrigue to know gamers get paid for gaming, well I might not able to catch up with this changes.
I didn't mean YouTube as a YouTube job. I mean starting out YouTube has become a job. The creators of this have made it in the hopes that it would make jobs for everyone, and it did. The maintenance that it has requires employees to continue. I don't know why you are mentioning virtual money in here but what I'm telling you is that gamers wouldn't exist if there is no developers willing to get paid for it = employee = job.

Also the virtual in game currency is not really a money, it can only be spend on the game itself, there is some changes that I can’t explain myself, because the virtual currency from the games is slowly getting into a currency of a real world, that’s some absurd thing going on, but nobody have an answer for that.
If you can't explain yourself, I think you don't understand what you are saying.  Roll Eyes

I think I know what you mean. You want to say that you skip the menial job part and go to the end game where you have your own company and you will live out the rest of your life as your own "employee".

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November 24, 2020, 12:55:53 AM
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No need a #job and will never need one.

Employers, businessmen, government, banker, welfare, social leeches can btfo.

It’s the future, without a money system manipulated by a central banker FED, people can finally achieve freedom.
Youtubers and gamer are making a lot of money thru their content and you can actually live a better life without working to anyone and by just doing what you love. With my lifestyle and my financial needs today, I don't think I can survive for 10 years without actually having a decent job but of course I'm dreaming for this one. I'm currently working on my Youtube channel and I hope that I can succeed on this one and hopefully people will support my content as well.

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November 24, 2020, 10:26:27 AM
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For how long are we going to be having that freedom? I have seen some things that really made me question how long the freedom is going to be as the government is always trying their best to penetrate into everything.

Anyway, with those jobs you have mentioned you can cash out from it with any means of payment. Then I have to add that you should have other means income as well, unless you really multiple means of income created already; like you mentioned YouTube, if you really have a YouTube channel with lots of subscribers then it’s really nice and will be fetching you good income, it’s a kind of thing that you’re not going to lose.

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so this is what all your doing now ha op ? i know it was cool to have a skill or to work on these activies because you can work from your home but i think they lack of benefits and stability .

 i know im one of this because ive been also working from home as a free lancer but i sometimes have the urge to find a job from a real company to be able to secure my future  . when it comes to financial freedom we have cryptos now that we can use  . we dont need to depend on bank
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Working the way, you want and having freedom from bosses is the best thing as nobody like that to be heard from you bosses and say yes always to him/her. At time you are helpless and cannot even leave due to no other source of income or due to family pressure. But if one can get the alternate correct and earn a decent income through various sources then can easily think about quitting and might even become a self-employed and even employee others if business start to grow.

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November 24, 2020, 01:22:50 PM
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i experienced 5 months of having no work when the company declared emergency closure. for that  months my head always turning what to do.

But you 10 years?How to be you Mate?  Grin Grin Grin

but the way you express yourself i can see that you are a successful person in your own way and having financial income for those years.

Good to know that Free lancers in your kinda way is also in success.Keep it up mate ..

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That’s some amount of denial, I’m extremely interested on how you guy write on your job resume, your [b
job experience: “making YouTube videos, play games, sleep, mining bitcoin, freelance, hacking, bounty hunter manager. [/b]

I’m sure all of you will be kick out of the interview room to write on that resume. Smiley nice joke BTW.

Nope you should never write those on the resume to be serious, nobody will call that a job. Not your parent, not your employers, not your government too.

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Are you kidding, have you never made a portfolio of your work applying for a job, even many companies are now asking for additional portfolios of yourself in the form of blogs or other forms.  You can tell all of that if it is related to the job you are applying for, why hackers, gamers, bloggers cannot show their work and achievements in the form of a portfolio.  That is a plus for the company.
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I don't think it's good to rely on just being a YouTuber or gamer and such since it's only temporary unless you already have the name in that industry. Also, I have seen a lot of people trying to be a vlogger and a gamer but not everyone has the same opportunity to gain popularity and income from it. But being a freelancer can still be considered having a job, even if it has no benefits like the usual worker. It's good for you that you don't need to be working for others to earn income since you were able to do that in several ways.

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I can tell they’re going to be the history very soon because the profit they can cope on those platform are depleting fast, that’s why we begin to move to the next “big” thing, I believe it has to be something that many people enjoy doing it during lock down.

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I do not have job but it doesn't mean that I just being dependent on my parents and my family for me to live, I have businesses and I managed different portfolios in cryptocurrency and stock market. If you say job, usually those people are the employees who are working for someone or working for corporations. I'm self employed where I'm a trader and I use my skills in order to fulfill the services needed by someone. Actually you can really survive without applying for jobs because there are a lot of opportunities in different types of market. 

I'm a type of person who have good mindset wherein I want to become a investor or a self employed than to become a employee. I also hate applying jobs and for me it is a waste of time even though there are some benefits. I said it is a waste of time because my skills are becoming waste if I just become employee.

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That’s true, a lot of people regret wasting their time on a job that don’t appreciate their skill, doing something we will regret later will never get us ahead in life, I don’t think those gamer will ever regret they waste a lot of their time on gaming, the same for the other online “jobs”.

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I have been "jobless" for 5+ years as well, I do not find it any effective to try to get to a regular job where you have to wake up very early, go to a place with a bus, work there for 8 hours not really working for all of it and just killing time in most of it, then go back to your home at night for maybe dinner time (maybe not even that) watch a show and sleep and repeat that. This type of life that was pressured people to live for few hours a day of their life really doesn't make sense to me, I could find a job tomorrow if I want to but that method is not for me at all.

So, I have been freelancing for 5+ years now and I am very happy about it, I make my own time, I work whenever I want to and I do not kill time here, when I have a job to do I work and other times I can do whatever I want to.

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Yeah, the job market has be horrible for many years and they’re not improving, that make zero sense to get a job when the effort you spend outpace the benefit, oftentimes you can’t have saving at all working for a job and that’s not something unusual I had read some streamers rant about how they can’t save money working as a high paying executive, their pay check has to go to tax and whatever levies  that’s not really a part of their job agreement, but they’re not going to end, eventually nobody will want a job that most of their pay will go into somebody else.

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Are you sure you consider YouTubers, gamers, and freelancers to be jobless?  Maybe I want to make things right, they are not jobless, but they are working the way they are taking and according to their passion.  Nowadays, the world has shifted slightly with the concept of working for many people, it used to be very different.
 
In the past, people who did not work regularly for 8 hours at the office were considered unemployed, but nowadays there are many job options that someone can choose.  And in the future around 10 years, maybe more people will spend their working time at home or anywhere.  Some job professions will no longer be hired by companies because they will be replaced by freelancers.  Such as accountants, data scientists, and many more.  Companies don't need to hire someone to stay in their office to work on financial reports or even data from the company, they just need freelancers and cut a lot of routine company costs.

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Those “jobs” existed around this world for less than 10 years, yup, it might be some sort of “new job” if you insist it’s one, before 2008, we don’t have this sort of jobs to begin with and nobody would call that a job.

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November 24, 2020, 03:12:37 PM
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I am one of those people who don't dare to take risks, so I always live my life in a safe way. Then knowing the opening post jobless
for 10 years and surviving is a very good achievement in my opinion. Because not everyone dares to do that, the thought of the opening
post regarding the world of work is very different from people in general. So on the other hand what the opening post did really inspired me,
but I was too scared to follow it.
You do not have to quit your job to try these things actually. You can try these things like if you like singing then you can make a youtube channel and start posting your singing videos and if you get good interest you can start giving it more time and if that continues to happen and you get serious response from the public then you can swiftly quit your job and shift completely.

Often times people think they have to quit their job to try something new but that is not the case in reality, you have much more than you think if only you have the ability to engage that time in useful things and time management is the key.

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November 24, 2020, 06:29:36 PM
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It doesn't mean that if you are jobless, you are useless in the society.

All of us do have different ways on how we will make ourselves successful and professional depending on our skill and effort.

With hard-work, investment, patience, and curiosity, I must say that I'm still doing fine and well because I deserved a lot of things right now even if I don't look for a job I just believed on myself for doing what I want. If you think that being jobless is also hopeless then you are wrong.

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November 24, 2020, 06:54:14 PM
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Youtubers and gamer are making a lot of money thru their content and you can actually live a better life without working to anyone and by just doing what you love. With my lifestyle and my financial needs today, I don't think I can survive for 10 years without actually having a decent job but of course I'm dreaming for this one. I'm currently working on my Youtube channel and I hope that I can succeed on this one and hopefully people will support my content as well.
Maybe you can take a moment and link your channel because this community is so good that you might find investors in fact for your videos if your content is good and sponsors are always looking for good content creators.

The problem with an average person is that we are hesitant to show our talents and underrate ourselves to such an extent that we consider ourself as useless and feel that the boss is doing a favor by hiring us and we must not even think of changing or quitting the current job. Always remember the boss is only paying you a part of the money he makes for the work you do for him and he is not doing any favors to you and the moment he finds a better option he will replace you so why not have the same attitude and leave your job once you have a better option.

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November 25, 2020, 05:40:29 AM
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I work in the company as an employee and spend 8 hours in the office. I feel as torment, because I honestly don't enjoy my life.
I've been doing this for years, to be honest I'm stressed out living a life like that. Finally, in 2019 I couldn't take it anymore,  I resigned
from the company where I worked. At first I had financial difficulties, because I used to have a steady income every month.

But after a year of trying to make money from the internet and now I don't regret resigning. Because my income from the internet is
much greater and I am free to set my own working hours. And finally I can enjoy my life. Remember I don't invite other people to resign
from their jobs. I only share about my story.
I know a lot of people who have the same feeling that they feel being tormented by their job because every day they wake up all they do is doing the same thing and there is no fun nor enjoyment to it. It is why they also quit their jobs and started their own businesses that some of them I knew failed to make their own business and started to get back to their old jobs again, while some of them I knew have successfully created their own business and continue running and earning profit. I think this teaches me that everybody has their own destiny to follow because not all people have the same opportunity, even they have the same feeling, so good thing that you found your destiny in making money from the internet and in crypto investment.

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November 25, 2020, 11:35:57 AM
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I work in the company as an employee and spend 8 hours in the office. I feel as torment, because I honestly don't enjoy my life.
I can really feel the pain in your statement so my suggestion to anyone else who is going through such times please find some other job where your passion is because once you follow your passion and make it as your profession, you don't have to work in your life.

But after a year of trying to make money from the internet and now I don't regret resigning. Because my income from the internet is much greater and I am free to set my own working hours. And finally I can enjoy my life. Remember I don't invite other people to resign from their jobs. I only share about my story.
It takes courage for doing what you did but now one decision helped you remodel your life and do what you actually like doing. Leaving your job is even more difficult when you have a family because you have nightmares thinking how you are going to manage if you leave the job and hence you just keep working despite knowing you deserve better.
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