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December 01, 2020, 07:14:41 PM
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Foxpup, on looking back over the thread, I think that my last post came off toward you in a way that I did not intend.  I don’t quite apologize, because I was sincere in what I said, itself; I was simply being candid, not trying to criticize you personally.  See below for a further note on that.*

For reasons that you have succinctly described from your own viewpoint, I really do not understand the “NSFW” rule.  Rules are supposed to be understandable to the ordinary intelligent person.  I believe that I meet or exceed that description; and yet, I seem unable to use my usual mind-reading powers to guess what a moderator will declare “Not Safe For Work”, vague as the term is.
I don't suppose it ever occurred to you to simply ask what is and isn't appropriate, as I did when attempting to determine whether my contest entry was acceptable.

Zeroth of all:  Now, I am asking!  —And not receiving any clear, authoritative answers.  —And being criticized by some people for asking, as if I were asking a stupid question.  Observe that the topic title ends in a question mark.

And first of all:  I would ask, if I were doing something that I thought was questionable.  I did not think that an art-museum piece was questionable; and in the first instance, I would not choose to participate in a forum where it was.  As you can probably tell by now, this is an important issue to me.

(As I expected that it would be to others.  Where are all of the ACLU types?  Doesn’t the ACLU raise hell if some church ladies cover up a nude statue in a public park, or whatever?  I am pretty sure that if I look on ACLU.org, I can find plenty of long wall-of-text essays about the social and cultural importance of protecting artworks.)

I consider the prohibition of fine art to be disgraceful.  Disgusting.  I wouldn’t significantly involve myself in any site where I knew that it may happen.  Yes, it is a private forum that I am free to leave at any time.  I was also free to not sign up here, if I knew that something like this could happen.

(That is not difficult:  I have never been so deeply involved in an Internet forum; and other than some fire-and-forget throwaway accounts, I have not really participated in any forum since perhaps around 2003 or so.)

People who have praised me when I stood up for principles that they agreed with, should understand that I am being principled here.  I need to explain that—not to make the topic about myself personally, but rather, because I am even puzzled at why people seem not to understand why I don’t just shrug, forget it, go back to business as usual.  Not going to happen.  The deletion of those posts was major turning point for me.

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Do you suggest that this Very Venerable and Serious Museum publicly, openly displays things that cannot be embedded in posts on the libertarian cypherpunk Bitcoin Forum?

It is usually a matter of principle to me that one who values his own work should never give it away as “user-generated content” (a) to any site not under his own control, (b) without compensation.  Hereby, this forum’s primary general topic is important to me.  I thought that I understood the forum rules, that the rules were acceptable to me, and that the rules would be applied consistently.  Whoops.

The past few days, I have almost regretted ever signing up here.  —Not quite, because of some of the people whom I never would have met otherwise.  And today, on the third anniversary of my very first “Brand New” post, I have been having some dark thoughts about this:

Boldface, italic, and underlining are in the original; highlighting is hereby added:
For the record:  As one who does not generally contribute content to sites run by others, I myself have carefully considered very unlikely hypothetical scenarios in which I may mass-delete all my own posts here.  E.g., if I were to be administratively forbidden from [...], I may decide to burn my own work and walk away.  (I did say, very unlikely hypothetical scenarios.)

Whereas if I were to leave the forum in anger at its administration, withdrawing thereby my own contributions, I would not take it into my own hands to destroy the work of people who had contributed to my self-moderated threads in good faith, in accord with my local rules, and sometimes even from sincere friendship toward me.  In this hypothetical, I may post a note encouraging people to follow my example.  But to trash others’ work myself in that circumstance would be self-centred, narcissistic, and downright treacherous of me.  I would not do that.
There is no better way to make nullius go nuclear than to attack culture.

I will probably seek a solution that is more constructive.  —Or more destructive.  —Or both.  I am talking about this to make a point; if I intended to do a drastic action, I probably would not announce it beforehand...  But for those who are wondering why I don’t just blow this off and move on, I think that that adequately illustrates how seriously I take this issue.

When I said "Western society", you know perfectly well that I meant current Western society, which I'm well aware has been negatively influenced by religious conservatives. You can spare me the art history lesson.

I didn’t “know perfectly well what [you] meant”; I took what you said at face value.  Doesn’t that succinctly sum up the problem whence arose this thread?

Anyway, I thought that you would appreciate discussing art history. Undecided

At this juncture, in reply to the remainder of your post, I began an earnest reply that went way off-topic...  Never mind.


* Part of the problem is that the post was stitched together from pieces of a much longer draft, in an attempt to make it more “succinct”.  The red-lettered warning about things offensive to Foxpup was originally in a discussion about how workplaces differ; and reductio ad absurdum, office employees at AVN, Pornhub, or for that matter, Slixa could probably be fired for reading my posts (unless it is only to demand that I be cancelled and deplatformed from the Internet).  Obviously, actual porn is acceptable in those work environments.  (I speak here as to non-sex employees; such companies have office staff, too!)  In the original draft, it comes off very differently.

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December 02, 2020, 02:23:57 PM
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A few things in reply to your post here..

1. Tman was a moronic slobbering fool who spewed out profanity and nonsense. Who also went over the line with child sex abuse filth. Jokes or not that is a step too far. Also caught scamming in his auctions.

Bring me a collection of his posts that were original insightful and made a real difference here.

2. Lauda was a deliberate sneaky plagiarist and scammer

You tried the old ..lauda simply changed his mind defense which was smashed.
You didnt once rebuke his plagiarism after your bullshit about it being something you hated with passion.

3. Mentioning those truths does not damage my credibility it has never been damaged since I have never had a point debunked on anything important. The clear insightful and undeniable rebuff I gave robovac was entirely valid and I see that you have jumped upon that legitimate point. You're welcome. Don't add public ingratitude to your repertoire.


So to be clear.

1.  Yes they will legitimately remove your pic on NSFW grounds
.  I dont agree with it being removed but I dont make the rules.
2.  They must keep to those grounds not start crying it was because their kids prefer to read about pajeettwatwanktardcumguzzlingskankfuckingwindowlickingspazcunts or other more serious filth from tman that they collate and celebrate.

So next time photoshop a little leaf or picture of a kitty cat over the pussy lips and you'll be okay. I hope a naked asshole is allowed but you cant be too sure. As you have noticed I'm an ass and skat enthusiast.

I would have liked to defend your side of the argument more and would do if you post images of classcial statues (either sex or them xxy ones)bending forwars and away whilst reaching around spreading their ass cheeks ready for a good felching. I've already provided you with what you have adopted as one of your main retorts so that's more than you deserve considering your historical wrongdoing towards innocents here.

Looks like you're getting the old cold shoulder treatment now.  So you'll have to just wait for me to get around to you and keep you company. Since my vast fortune is becoming a distraction what with all the pleasures it can afford me now that may not be as frequently as would like. Once I hit 50M I may shout you a free cyber sex session with thepharmacist since his rates are the most economical and provides the depravity it would take to ease the pressure of those blue balls lauda/alia left you with.

For mop up I'll call in " the guzzler" he has been parched I hear since lauda turned off the fountain.  That load should quench him nicely.

What's 50 bux all in between 2 outcasts like ourselves when 1 has so much the other.... a little less In many various ways.

So about those statue pics I mention.  Now when posting you can get around the NSFW by using this method.
Super impose a hedge in front of them so you just see their heads and upper torso ( from behind obviously) now make it super high res.
Okay then remove a few leaves on the hedge layer just big enough to see the anus. Then unless they download the image and remove the hedge layer or super zoom in on the little gap of leaves only we will enjoy the image fully as it was meant to be enjoyed.
The others who prefer to just read about pajeetwanktardfucknozzlejizzslurpingbuttmunchingpeasantspazoids will just think it's two lovely statues  sitting beside each other behind a low hedge.

I hope this post has given you both a way to back down without quitting the forum and an excellent plan from which we can both benefit going forward.  You would be a great loss to the forum and I cant take being prevented from another goodbye world thread just now.  I'm suffering a major hangover and other complications related to overly spicy food.  You get the picture. If not I can send.  


TLDR

they can delete your pic because a lovely juicy hairy pussy will likely be a clue that they are not cracking on with the designated rat run chores at work.
Dont worry a workaround provided ...mutually beneficial.
Pics if you're up for it.
Dont leave the forum. I'm warming to you.
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