Loan Default - asu u=519783

[jamyr]

If asu was in a really bad situation and at the same time if we're going to take the moral and ethical approach, the attempt would be to at least try to negotiate with DireWolfM14 for a reduction or complete removal of the interest(probably with some proof), and a delayed deadline. But nope.

I haven't charged interest since April.  All I've asked of asu since then is to maintain communication, and make payments.  He offered to pay off the loan in full by August, I only asked him to honor his word.  I know what this past year has done to many folks, and I don't want to put any one in a difficult position.  I just want my money back.

Sorry about your loss. And after reading thru several threads about the discussion on this issue, I may have a full picture of what happened.

What you can do, is to have a legal case submitted, this can go under special the circumstance wherein even if coins.ph would not divulge the identity of the individual but with pressure from a community, example our community, or if you can file a case legally, can have the court ask for coins.ph to do so. Have you been in contact with coins.ph? It is better if you can get in touch with their corporate department.

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[smyslov]

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I'm sure Asu is reading this if Coins.ph is open to helping Direwolf then he is in trouble of getting track and getting sued for fraud or estapa
it's not a small money now that Bitcoin is going up, he will end up owing half a million in pesos to Direwolf, not an easy to get hat money, especially now that we are in pandemic.
 

[broke_tradah]

Heh wow,  you sure got raked over the coals by the post miners (people who've sold their account to scammers who then abuse them).  I'll never understand the point of no collateral crypto loans based soley on "forum cred".  Most retarded thing I've ever seen heh.  "Forum cred" is about as useful as used ass paper.  Looks like TYM and ASU really took u for a ride.  Just be grateful they didnt hit u with the other accounts they bought.  You probably should have just put everything on 00 and let it ride.  At least the odds would have been better.

[nutildah]

Heh wow,  you sure got raked over the coals by the post miners (people who've sold their account to scammers who then abuse them)...Looks like TYM and ASU really took u for a ride.  Just be grateful they didnt hit u with the other accounts they bought.  

Sounds like you're attempting to squirrel a little reputational blame shift here. These people didn't sell their accounts, they just turned out to be dirtbags. They were likely dirtbags all along (at least TYM was, I don't know so much about the case of asu). What a weird thread to bump for an even weirder reason.

Dirtbags have come and dirtbags gone. Both shasan and DireWolfM14 continue to perform an important service out of the kindness of their heart, and for some reason they both still believe in the overall good of humanity. We need more people like that in the world; especially on the forum.

[pinggoki]

Sounds like you're attempting to squirrel a little reputational blame shift here. These people didn't sell their accounts, they just turned out to be dirtbags. They were likely dirtbags all along (at least TYM was, I don't know so much about the case of asu). What a weird thread to bump for an even weirder reason.

Dirtbags have come and dirtbags gone. Both shasan and DireWolfM14 continue to perform an important service out of the kindness of their heart, and for some reason they both still believe in the overall good of humanity. We need more people like that in the world; especially on the forum.

I guess this comes with the business of having to lend your bitcoins to someone, you have the biggest risk since the collateral isn't really that worth to the person that's applying for the loan. I do agree that we need more people that are doing service for many out of believing in good and I also would like to add that we also need more people to protect this kind of people, let us do the dirty work for them while they do all the good things that they can do, it's not that difficult to do it here too, just a good call out on someone trying to finesse a good person is enough to make sure that dirtbags like them don't ever take advantage.

[Timelord2067]

@broke_tradah - some lenders are actually okay with having the occasional scammer walk off with the bag - then expect the rest of us to come in and support their scam accusation/flags against that user.

@nutildah - in the context of the above, DireWolfM14 chose to ignore the warning signs and then got burned.

@pinggoki  - there are others who lend from time to time, but increasingly, there aren't the checks and balances and as I said to broke_tradah, when the lender gets burned, they expect the rest of us to come in and mop up their mess with support of flags or scam accusations.

[pinggoki]

@pinggoki  - there are others who lend from time to time, but increasingly, there aren't the checks and balances and as I said to broke_tradah, when the lender gets burned, they expect the rest of us to come in and mop up their mess with support of flags or scam accusations.

I think that it's a fair thing, that's the least that we can do for them since they're the one that's lending money, I find nothing wrong in doing that for them. I wouldn't say mop up the mess since we the supporters of the flag wouldn't be helping any other way to the people besides the flag support. Mopping up mess means we're solving the issue for them but I don't see it so I don't think that's the phrase that we're looking for on this one.

[DireWolfM14]

Heh wow,  you sure got raked over the coals by the post miners (people who've sold their account to scammers who then abuse them).  I'll never understand the point of no collateral crypto loans based soley on "forum cred".  Most retarded thing I've ever seen heh.  "Forum cred" is about as useful as used ass paper.  Looks like TYM and ASU really took u for a ride.  Just be grateful they didnt hit u with the other accounts they bought.  You probably should have just put everything on 00 and let it ride.  At least the odds would have been better.

Man, you must have been seriously bored to bump this three-plus year old thread.

You go ahead and gamble your money in a casino if that's that fits your risk profile, and I'll gamble on human nature.  Out of those two is one more condemnable than the other?  Is one a sin, and the other rewarded in spirit and conscious?  I'll let you choose which is which.

The tragedy would be gambling more than we can afford to lose, and putting our family at risk.  Alhamdulillah, that's not the case in my situation.