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November 30, 2020, 11:04:38 PM
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I've also had several times the same offer on telegram, which I did ignore it. Because to me an offer like that looks like a scam,
unless the person who offers it is the one I already know. If there are strangers who ask for cooperation in any case, I usually
prefer to avoid it. Moreover, when dealing with other people related to money, it is very risky. So my advice is to ignore the
cooperation offer.

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November 30, 2020, 11:04:43 PM
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It seems like a scam attempt, maybe that person who messages you, messages many people, no one can predict the future so basically, they are just also guessing, and they just only saying those words so it will look real. Do not trust someone about that, they might just also waiting for the result of the event and hoping that there would be someone who will give commission on him/her.

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1. Have you ever received an offer similar to mine ?
Not yet, not an active user of telegram.
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2. What will you do with this offer ?
Just ignore the message, it is an obvious scam, predicting the future isn't possible.
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3. Does this look like a scam attempt ?
Yes.
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4. Do you feel that working with this person will only make you feel like a robot betting to give him a little "if you win" money?
Yeah, or you just being a noob because you are giving someone money without doing anything.

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November 30, 2020, 11:22:12 PM
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Rule of thumb guys. Stranger danger eh? You have no idea what this person is or isn't capable of doing, and on top of that you're entrusting him with your money? That's how scammers win! Might as well ignore it and secure your money from loss rather than hope for a win which is heavily unlikely in this scenario. After all, loss prevention is still a win even without the gains.

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November 30, 2020, 11:28:58 PM
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I'm not saying it is worth trying or a kind of scam. He never asked you for money but only commission if you win. Let see if he is really serious about his words but the moment that he asks you something in return for that prediction, then that is also the moment to stop talking with him because that it says a way to scam trick. Find it normal nowadays and we need to be cautious especially when it talks about money and that coming from strangers.  

Basically this person was exercising mendicancy, that's using it's own way of dealing to people who they think can give them a money as donation. In my own perceptions, it won't be associated to scam but rather deceiving people through internet. No poor person could use the internet if he's or she was into poverty since, they rather us it for food. We should get rid from these strangers and avoid having communication on them.

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November 30, 2020, 11:30:36 PM
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Rule of thumb guys. Stranger danger eh? You have no idea what this person is or isn't capable of doing, and on top of that you're entrusting him with your money? That's how scammers win! Might as well ignore it and secure your money from loss rather than hope for a win which is heavily unlikely in this scenario. After all, loss prevention is still a win even without the gains.
Exactly, don't deal with strangers on the internet or let say random people on the internet that you didn't know.
They will not waste their time entertaining someone if they don't have any motive on you for sure there is negative aside from the offering service.

You can try but don't spend money especially if when it times they will ask you financially. However, I can't judge them right now but you can try as what I have said above.

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November 30, 2020, 11:39:47 PM
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Rule of thumb guys. Stranger danger eh? You have no idea what this person is or isn't capable of doing, and on top of that you're entrusting him with your money? That's how scammers win! Might as well ignore it and secure your money from loss rather than hope for a win which is heavily unlikely in this scenario. After all, loss prevention is still a win even without the gains.
Exactly, don't deal with strangers on the internet or let say random people on the internet that you didn't know.
They will not waste their time entertaining someone if they don't have any motive on you for sure there is negative aside from the offering service.

You can try but don't spend money especially if when it times they will ask you financially. However, I can't judge them right now but you can try as what I have said above.

And before you know it, they will delete their account. Try it, if you ignore such offer, you will notice that they will delete their account. Though I didn't receive the same offer, but I received offers trying to fix  issue in the exchange, which of course I turned down. If you ignore them, you will find out later that they will delete their account. So that kind of service, is a scam for me.
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November 30, 2020, 11:53:47 PM
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The offer seems like a very good one, not having to pay upfront but only after a win. One thing the guy failed to look at is supposing there is a lose, what then happens? Would they be willing to share in the lose as much as they intend to share in the profit? Anything other than this makes it unreliable.
All the guy wants is for you to take all the risk over his presumably accurate prediction and should it turn out to be a win, you take the lion share as owner of investment and as the one who took all the risk while, the guy just mages a wage for applying sense on OP. That's just what it is, should the guy be absolutely sure the outcome was going to be exact as predicted, why should he or her need you to make the stake, he or she would have gone to get money from anywhere and stake it on that bet believing a refund once the game ends while he keeps the profit. Nice story huh! Don't be a victim!!

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December 01, 2020, 12:14:21 AM
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When i do receive some random message from other people on telegram then i do mostly have those kind of negative perceptions towards it and most likely it
would really be put on ignore unless if it do really caught my interest.
Seeing on the image above where someone do try to offer some fixed match and getting the commision after you won then that isnt a bad deal since you
arent really needing to pay something but the question is, how he would proved out that those matches were fixed? or just simply random guess and if
you do won then you would need to give him some % of you winning? this is the case ive been seeing on this.

So in final i wont really be trusting these kind of offers yet no one will just randomly contact you and say "Hey i have some fix match information".. thats BS.
Yeah, it is only natural for many to not trust the people in Telegram, we all know the reputation of the people in that crevice of cyberspace. I do agree regarding offering fixed match betting and I think that it is not a lucrative way to earn a profit, first is that most of the offers are scam attempts targeted towards people that are naïve to the dangers of quick rich schemes. It is a given that when someone is divulging an information about something that involves money, and you think that it is too good to be true, it probably is. Lastly, use your logic and common sense, why would they give you a money generating information with that low commissions? They probably want to get your money of course.

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December 01, 2020, 12:32:24 AM
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I avoid any unsolicited message from telegram, this is here scammers roam around. I don't trust such an offer, first if it's a guaranteed fixed match then why would he share it and ask for profit than to bet on it himself. Anything that promises you easy money is a red flag. If ever there is an easy way to earn money, no one would share it, they will keep it themselves.
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1. Have you ever received an offer similar to mine ?
Yes, I have received an offer similar to this on telegram but the people that provide this offer are always a scammer.

2. What will you do with this offer ?
Ignore it because the person that offers such a service can easily do it all by himself without involving you or anyone else. Mind you, this is the same scam strategy used by a scammer in a gambling chat room, and since you claim not to need anyone else to decide what to do for you then you better off without the guy's help.
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3. Does this look like a scam attempt ?
It's 100% a scam attempt.

4. Do you feel that working with this person will only make you feel like a robot betting to give him a little "if you win" money ?
No, working with him will only make you one of his victims.

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December 01, 2020, 02:41:16 AM
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I have received the same message and I think they usually get our contacts in the same Telegram groups that we have joined. It's complete spam and scam because it's too informal since you have received it from a stranger and it's honestly hard to trust people in Telegram these days. Scammers are now using Telegram because they could hide their identities there and they could hide in someone else's name. The best thing that we should do is just ignore them or block them as much as possible.
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December 01, 2020, 03:20:56 AM
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I just wanted to know a few things about this.
1. Have you ever received an offer similar to mine ?
2. What will you do with this offer ?
3. Does this look like a scam attempt ?
4. Do you feel that working with this person will only make you feel like a robot betting to give him a little "if you win" money ?

1. No, I don't receive an offer as what you received.
2. If I got it, I will delete the chat as soon as possible.
3. I don't know if that looks like a scam attempt or not, but I don't want to join on that offers.
4. Well, since I don't want to receive any offers like that, I don't think too much about that because I prefer to do it in my own way or ask for help from my friends, usually betting on the sport. I feel that I can trust my friends than the stranger.

If you get another chat like that, you don't have to follow him because we don't know if he really has that skill or just following other people's tips. So we need to be careful about any offers that we get from any social media.
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Most likely that's a scam, I haven't joined any sports betting groups in telegram so I don't receive these offers. If someone started tipping some fixed matches I would instantly ignore them. From my perspective it's as close as buying picks from someone but it's much worse because you don't know if it's reliable and as oeleo pointed out if the matches are indeed fixed he could easily start with a $5 bet and roll it over hundreds of times without the need to offer this service in the first place.

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December 01, 2020, 03:48:49 AM
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*Say something about this, I want to hear your opinion.





No i have never received any message for sportsbetting Fixed matches by i already received some offers about How to make money specially in telegram in which the Nesting Place of Scammers.

What i usually do is Blocked/report the account ,and mostly i did not finish reading ,if i find the intent from the beginning.

I don't know whats on His back because he Offers commission after winning ,But he did not mentioned on how to do this.maybe it's better if the convo is further more so He will reveal whats the score .









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December 01, 2020, 04:02:42 AM
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This service seems like a scam to me most of the people who send messages to telegram are scammers in the case of betting, their offers are often inaccurate new gamblers often lose everything after falling into their trap. I have never accepted telegram's services they did not send the correct message and the information is incorrect therefore you have to check the reliability of the match it is not possible to guarantee work at telegram.
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December 01, 2020, 04:15:52 AM
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1. Have you ever received an offer similar to mine ?
Nope or I just can't remember I already did but just a hunch maybe the guy and you are in the similar betting room on telegram. I do notice this once I'm in a telegram room and just make a simple chat then sooner or later there are these guys offering an obvious scam attempt, base on my experience.

2. What will you do with this offer ?
Well, he offers it free and no risk I guess has been involved I think I'll try it on 20 bets or more before I do trust his picks.

3. Does this look like a scam attempt ?
I don't think it was but just observe maybe when you're winning he asks for more.

4. Do you feel that working with this person will only make you feel like a robot betting to give him a little "if you win" money ?
Somehow but I think it's nice that you both gain from it not just one party.
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December 01, 2020, 05:01:42 AM
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I should go for it, first of all he is not asking for any advance payment I think it's worth a shot personally I haven't able to receive such topic even from before. May I know have you tried it? for what I've known there's no such thing as fixed match.
Hehehehe are you for real?

Think about this,
- If the bet is a losing one, only you will suffer.
- If the bet won, he will share with the winnings.

That person doesn't need an upfront. There is no risk on his part, not even a reputation since he's anonymous or can simply use fake names. I would only agree to this kind of deal if he would offer to refund me if the bet loses and use a reputable escrow.

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December 01, 2020, 05:16:11 AM
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Wasn't there one about the same issue just a few months ago iirc? Someone had the same issue with you (that, or someone actually said they have insider info, I don't really remember anymore) and honestly, seemed pretty stupid.

To answer you, I've never really received them, mostly cause I don't use Telegram. I avoided it after my inbox list became plagued with people trying to scam me and the like. And If I ever did receive one, I'd probably just leave it to rot there, forever. Well, I would never honestly believe in any type of tips about "fixed" matches or something, heck I don't care about it. I care if a match is fixed, but if someone knows it's "fixed", the hell do I care, you're a random dude from the net why would I believe you. And one more thing, images as proofs are most likely a thing of the past already most of the time, especially if sent arbitrarily without any proofs or the like, it'd just make it seem more and more fake.

For the robot feeling, well, if you're money minded, even without this dude, you'd be plenty of a robot yourself already imo. A person who just bets for the sake of winning more money is kind of like that, not everyone ofc, but some are like that.

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December 01, 2020, 05:44:53 AM
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This "francis" guy is well known on the Stake community to be a scammer for several years now. Not sure if you are new to Stake but probably you stayed off the drama chats and thus never came to know about it.

Of course this is a scam, remember that making an account on stake is free and upgrading that account to higher VIP statuses takes wagering to reach so this creates the demand/supply for aged accounts just like older members accounts on this forum and others.

But the team behind Stake is very cautious about stolen accounts and so and thus you only risk your money if the person saying so is legit and trying to sell it. Either way you will be at risk.

Be careful of such PMs and it is best to block them without even wasting a single moment over it.

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Wasn't there one about the same issue just a few months ago iirc? Someone had the same issue with you (that, or someone actually said they have insider info, I don't really remember anymore) and honestly, seemed pretty stupid.
yes there is . the guy post a topic on the gambling board on this forum with the same message saying that he is from stake casino and have a platinum account . i replied on that thread of him before but i forgot the title now , really want to search it and post the link on here for the sake of other users to know  .

 it was only funny on telegram because he have a sportsbet logo as his profile pic but he talks that he was from stake lol .
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