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March 20, 2022, 05:21:32 PM |
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This is great, thanks for testing this.
Thinking of ways to utilize such paper in my projects.
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March 21, 2022, 12:05:23 PM |
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This is great, thanks for testing this.
Thinking of ways to utilize such paper in my projects.
I believe only laser printers can be used on the Terra, and it has lasted soo long under water. Pretty remarkable really. I use this waterproof paper for any items I want to archive away...especially paper wallets I generate. No need to worry about any water damage there  |
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June 19, 2022, 06:54:56 PM
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13th June 2022 Tested....read QR Terra, Revlar and Duracopy...changed water These wallets have been under water for close to two years now in December and hodling strong!  |
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June 20, 2022, 12:33:14 AM |
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13th June 2022 Tested....read QR Terra, Revlar and Duracopy...changed water
These wallets have been under water for close to two years now in December and hodling strong!
Notice that the sharpie is fading. |
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June 20, 2022, 01:41:54 PM |
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13th June 2022 Tested....read QR Terra, Revlar and Duracopy...changed water
These wallets have been under water for close to two years now in December and hodling strong!
Notice that the sharpie is fading. Indeed it is but the priinted laserjet ink is prisitine. The sharpie was not part of the test...as it was only showing who the manufacturer of the paper was. Sharpie was also not waterproof ink. |
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September 11, 2022, 10:29:34 AM
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Took paper out and tested all fine as always! Changed water....going on almost two years in December now with this experiment.  |
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September 12, 2022, 10:19:29 PM |
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Took paper out and tested all fine as always! Changed water....going on almost two years in December now with this experiment.  Nice to see this follow-up on your test project! Seems like it is a perfect candidate for doing this!  |
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September 23, 2022, 03:23:00 AM |
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Awesome man thank you for this. I have to buy some paper from one of these that you’ve been testing for 2+ years. Do you have a preference? I’ve never used any of them so not sure which one I should get. Any recommendations would be appreciated! Thanks again for the time taken to do this test!
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September 23, 2022, 08:16:18 AM |
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Awesome man thank you for this. I have to buy some paper from one of these that you’ve been testing for 2+ years. Do you have a preference? I’ve never used any of them so not sure which one I should get. Any recommendations would be appreciated! Thanks again for the time taken to do this test!
Thanks......I use Terra paper for all my private keys. And yeah this test will be kept ongoing for as long as I can keep it rolling |
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November 14, 2022, 05:25:47 PM
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Took papers out and tested all OK! Changed water as well. This December will be the 2 year anniversary of when this test started! And will hopefully go on for many more years!  |
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Took papers out and tested all OK! Changed water as well.
This December will be the 2 year anniversary of when this test started! And will hopefully go on for many more years!
[.img.]https://i.imgur.com/scYKvRX.jpg[./img.]
Could you do a small test for abrasion resistance? I wonder how soft the paper might get. |
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November 14, 2022, 07:21:13 PM |
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Took papers out and tested all OK! Changed water as well.
This December will be the 2 year anniversary of when this test started! And will hopefully go on for many more years!
[.img.]https://i.imgur.com/scYKvRX.jpg[./img.]
Could you do a small test for abrasion resistance? I wonder how soft the paper might get. It's not soft still solid as the day I placed in water...it's a form of plastic and I am sure will last many more years |
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November 14, 2022, 07:29:42 PM |
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glad to see the paper that I use (revlar) is holding up as well.
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November 14, 2022, 07:33:22 PM |
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glad to see the paper that I use (revlar) is holding up as well.
Yes they are all good. I use Terra as it was the first I came across and bought to use for my loaded items. I have been sent samples of both Revlar and Duracopy....I like em all |
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Both the inks and the paper are lasting so long because they are both heavily polyester / plastics based.
The toner you see in laser printers is mostly polyester (85-95%) and silica (+ trace metals to create a charge in the drum).
The "K" cartridge, ie. black is colored by carbon.
Secondly, when you print on this paper, you are actually printing on a three layer material, with the ink being deposited on a thin plastic layer.
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What this all means is you have an extremely stable substrate and non-permeable print.
Frankly, I would be surprised if you witness any fading / flaking in 2030. The only way to really damage these keys are through heat, lasers or direct scratching.
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November 14, 2022, 11:01:11 PM |
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Both the inks and the paper are lasting so long because they are both heavily polyester / plastics based.
The toner you see in laser printers is mostly polyester (85-95%) and silica (+ trace metals to create a charge in the drum).
The "K" cartridge, ie. black is colored by carbon.
Secondly, when you print on this paper, you are actually printing on a three layer material, with the ink being deposited on a thin plastic layer.
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What this all means is you have an extremely stable substrate and non-permeable print.
Frankly, I would be surprised if you witness any fading / flaking in 2030. The only way to really damage these keys are through heat, lasers or direct scratching.
HA! Coming from a true expert on this. Thanks that clarifies lots of things as well for many here. Next time when back in Manhattan we can talk over dinner! On me of course Cheers |
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Test ongoing for two years as of yesterday and still going strong |
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For real harsh enviroment you could try to leave it for like 5m in boiling water? It is really unlikely to survive but would account for a lot of use and temp change.
Lovely thing to see that exists, it was my biggest worry on paper wallets.
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February 03, 2023, 12:50:04 PM
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Water submersible test still ongoing! Changed water and read the QR codes! All good!
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February 04, 2023, 03:45:50 AM |
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This is a great thread, well done Krog
I still love seeing those Mycelium Entropy paper wallets, brings back memories
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