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December 07, 2020, 07:13:37 PM
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You should read first the TOS of any gambling site that you are planning to use and check whether you will be having an issue in the long run if in case you will be winning some huge amount of money. If the casino owners can see that your account is not behaving correctly then they will surely restrict or freeze your account as they conduct an investigation whether you are doing some shady actions or not that is against in their terms.

But if you are not planning to win using a shady techniques then you should not worry as long as your account is clean and the casino owners cannot find some issues in your account that they can use against you.
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December 07, 2020, 07:36:58 PM
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You should read first the TOS of any gambling site that you are planning to use and check whether you will be having an issue in the long run if in case you will be winning some huge amount of money.

Unfortunately, terms are subject to change much especially about the subject of the continuous huge amount of winnings. Users will just be surprised that a certain term will be imposed on them.

For that, OP just needs to choose a reputable sports betting site to ensure that in case of irregularities, OP can take the case in public. These reputable sites will surely address OP's question instead of unpopular ones that don't care about their user's problem.

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December 07, 2020, 09:24:53 PM
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You should read first the TOS of any gambling site that you are planning to use and check whether you will be having an issue in the long run if in case you will be winning some huge amount of money. If the casino owners can see that your account is not behaving correctly then they will surely restrict or freeze your account as they conduct an investigation whether you are doing some shady actions or not that is against in their terms.

But if you are not planning to win using a shady techniques then you should not worry as long as your account is clean and the casino owners cannot find some issues in your account that they can use against you.

TOS is a good source for blaming gamblers for any correct gambling activity which can look suspicious according to whatever section of the TOS. There is no guarantee any bookie will not block or restrict the account in case of a huge win and the same practice is applied by the majority of gambling websites. I agree if the user wins huge money by betting on the fourth league of third world countries and it is obviously "shady". The withdrawal conditions will be strict on this type of gambling accounts and the management will monitor the account activity for a long time until they catch something.

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December 07, 2020, 09:54:25 PM
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This makes sense to me. It lets me think about the idea that if one account makes 2-3 big withdrawals is in risk of his account being suspended/checked. Do you really think that i have to change the platform after i make some big withdrawals avoiding all breacking-head, or maybe just using the same platform after changing all stuff (device,account,ip,addresses) ?
No, making a big withdrawal won't risk your account from getting suspended unless you're new to that site and those withdrawals would quickly put you at a big profit. Also it depends on how big are these withdrawals.
What tyKiwanuka had said in the quote i responsed is very interesting and may have a different opinion from what you tell. Bookmakers generally don't like those who make big profits so it's normal to follow the regular winners, from this point then it's better to make some changes if you make some repetive big wins (can't really determine how much but there should be an average among wins) .
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December 07, 2020, 10:16:42 PM
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This is something I don't get. If these bookmakers are going to suspend or restrict my account in the case of profiting too much, why should I even bother with sports betting in the first place? What's the point? Having fun while losing money?

That's the point from the sportsbook's perspective, at least.

Their business is essentially offering this service to you for a fee - and that fee is an inherent disadvantage on your part due to subpar odds that they offer.

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Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it. In fact, since the pool and liqudity get bigger they should even support it. So, is it really the same case with bitcoin exchange sites too so that I should give up betting if I plan on winning in the end?

I think that there are a few concerns that may result in a suspension, the biggest of which may be insider betting. This is why you see extremely low limits on newly established leagues such as esports imo.

I doubt that centralised sportsbooks are going to change their ways in terms of restricting accounts on big profits, because most of the time a) you are playing against the house, so your win is their loss (of course, they would also hedge some of their bets) and b) sporting events are not truly provably random.

But as others said, betting exchanges have no net position in any bet, so they would have no trouble with you beating the market (just as any crypto exchange wouldn't mind whales profiting on derivatives, as long as they get their share of fees).
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December 08, 2020, 05:31:42 AM
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There are a lot of gambling sites in this forum and AFAIK they are all legit, you might try one of these sites. Pretty much they won't put any restrictions on your account unless you failed to follow one of their rules.

It appears to me that you frequently win in your gambling activity and the mere fact that any gambling site would recognize you are getting profitable then they will tend to kick you out for you might be the reason for their bankruptcy lol. Kidding aside, any gambling platforms will intend to lose the player who appears to be a frequent winner not just because of negative suspicions instead they are losing profit for players like you do.
I guess the casino will kick him out if he can win so much money from their site. I am sure they will prevent him from getting more winning. It could lead the casino to apply the limitations of the amount of money that he can withdraw. As long as he can avoid breaking their rule, he will still have a chance to win, but I am not sure if he can withdraw the win money easily. Maybe he needs to convince the site that he doesn't cheat them and maybe he needs to verify himself on that gambling site.

There are many reasons for the casino to kick or ban someone from their site, especially if that gambler wins a lot of money. They will easily do that and use any restriction on their members. If that happens to their members, I think the gambling site can lose its reputation in the members' eye, and they will leave the site.

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December 08, 2020, 07:23:42 AM
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You should read first the TOS of any gambling site that you are planning to use and check whether you will be having an issue in the long run if in case you will be winning some huge amount of money.

Unfortunately, terms are subject to change much especially about the subject of the continuous huge amount of winnings. Users will just be surprised that a certain term will be imposed on them.
I think every  gambling site has a alarm when there's a Huge win that recorded and will look at that account automatically about the legitimacy of the win so having this multiple times may not come to extent.maybe twice or until 3rd your account will be for questioning because this is a rare one and not normal to happen in a single day.
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For that, OP just needs to choose a reputable sports betting site to ensure that in case of irregularities, OP can take the case in public. These reputable sites will surely address OP's question instead of unpopular ones that don't care about their user's problem.
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December 08, 2020, 07:28:16 AM
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I think that reputable crypto casinos are winning enough money in general that they don’t really care if a few individuals are winning in the long run.In fact up until now I haven’t heard amy stories regarding this.In Fiat casinos though there are many claims that bet365 restricts your account once you win 3-4k Euros or Dollars.

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December 08, 2020, 08:12:31 AM
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I think that reputable crypto casinos are winning enough money in general that they don’t really care if a few individuals are winning in the long run.In fact up until now I haven’t heard amy stories regarding this.In Fiat casinos though there are many claims that bet365 restricts your account once you win 3-4k Euros or Dollars.
I think this in not exactly restricting the account, they just investigate and see if there is any suspicious actions have been done.

Winning a lot in casinos will most likely get the attention of the owners. It is actually normal if they undergo an investigation to your account, as long as you do not violate their rules or anything that can cause your account to disable, there is nothing to worry about.


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December 08, 2020, 08:14:37 AM
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This makes sense to me. It lets me think about the idea that if one account makes 2-3 big withdrawals is in risk of his account being suspended/checked. Do you really think that i have to change the platform after i make some big withdrawals avoiding all breacking-head, or maybe just using the same platform after changing all stuff (device,account,ip,addresses) ?
No, making a big withdrawal won't risk your account from getting suspended unless you're new to that site and those withdrawals would quickly put you at a big profit. Also it depends on how big are these withdrawals.
What tyKiwanuka had said in the quote i responsed is very interesting and may have a different opinion from what you tell. Bookmakers generally don't like those who make big profits so it's normal to follow the regular winners, from this point then it's better to make some changes if you make some repetive big wins (can't really determine how much but there should be an average among wins) .

Wonder what changes you are referring to. Is it like changing of device, account, ip, etc as your former post suggested?
 Well, I think those who consistently win significant amounts would need to be careful playing too long on account that has attracted lot of attention from admin/owner. I'd prefer to use another platform for awhile before using the one I have won alot of bets on again.
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December 08, 2020, 08:25:28 AM
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None of the legit bookie, gambling site would restrict your account for winning.
This is true for players that aren't playing big or for players that are usually losing but the case is different for deathes and other players like him. Bookies don't want to lose and they can restrict anyone who can potentially deplete their bankroll. They will use any trick up their sleeve to make that player leave.

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December 08, 2020, 08:46:17 AM
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Everything depends on the amount of profits you are going to be making, how much reputable is the casino you are gambling at and the volume that takes part in this casino.
You have to find the best combination of those three in order to eliminate the chances of getting restricted or banned.
Indeed, casinos are posing restrictions in people that are winning too much - I have experienced that with bet365 when they posed me a restriction of a certain amount that I can bet during a day because I had a consecutive winning streak of a lot of money.

You agree in some policies when you sign up - this means that you are playing with their rules...
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December 08, 2020, 09:38:24 AM
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Everything depends on the amount of profits you are going to be making, how much reputable is the casino you are gambling at and the volume that takes part in this casino.
You have to find the best combination of those three in order to eliminate the chances of getting restricted or banned.
Indeed, casinos are posing restrictions in people that are winning too much - I have experienced that with bet365 when they posed me a restriction of a certain amount that I can bet during a day because I had a consecutive winning streak of a lot of money.

You agree in some policies when you sign up - this means that you are playing with their rules...
its the reputation of the casino for me that should come first before the volume and the decision of how much your going to win because these two are going to be useless if you pick a scam and bad casino because your still going to be restricted or else not get paid .

 as far as i know  bet365 is a big casino but why they still have a restriction , how much money you bet and win before ? im just curious because you dont look like a rich gambler to me  . i cant believe that there are really gambling site that restricts players from winning lol .
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December 08, 2020, 12:59:09 PM
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it wont take long if you can win easily . not withdrawing small amounts verry often can also make you save lots of fees , thats what i did i just withdrew one time because the gambling site where i play demands a big withdrawal fee but i dont recomend it for people that have a gambling issue because they can loose what they can save 

and most importantly if your a gambler that are not willing to do a kyc because money can get trap inside a gambling site .

But it will not be easy to win as we know that gambling is not designed to give easy money to the gamblers. If you want to save lots of fees, you can convert your win in bitcoin into an altcoin so that you can pay small fees. If you withdrew one time in a large amount, that can make the casino suspicious and check your account. If you don't mind getting that, you can still do but be careful. I don't recommend to withdraw in a large amount to avoid the alarm sounding.

We need to select the gambling site that doesn't require KYC to get in a trap when we withdraw.

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December 08, 2020, 01:06:34 PM
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This is something I don't get. If these bookmakers are going to suspend or restrict my account in the case of profiting too much, why should I even bother with sports betting in the first place? What's the point? Having fun while losing money?

Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it. In fact, since the pool and liqudity get bigger they should even support it. So, is it really the same case with bitcoin exchange sites too so that I should give up betting if I plan on winning in the end?

Why would they do that in the first place? if they will suspend the users account for that reason only then there's something wrong with them and thy cannot be trusted, but if you do something illegal which violate their TOS for sure you will be investigated and if they find something illegal on your account then its a  ground for them to suspend your account so make sure to play in accordance to their TOS and play with honesty since for that you can protect your account.

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December 08, 2020, 01:19:12 PM
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I don't think they will not suspend or restrict your account but maybe they would ask you personal details and undergo through KYC if you win big amounts in order to comply with their AML policy which is I think is normal if their website is regulated and licensed.

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December 08, 2020, 01:28:58 PM
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This is something I don't get. If these bookmakers are going to suspend or restrict my account in the case of profiting too much, why should I even bother with sports betting in the first place? What's the point? Having fun while losing money?

Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it. In fact, since the pool and liqudity get bigger they should even support it. So, is it really the same case with bitcoin exchange sites too so that I should give up betting if I plan on winning in the end?

Why would they do that in the first place? if they will suspend the users account for that reason only then there's something wrong with them and thy cannot be trusted, but if you do something illegal which violate their TOS for sure you will be investigated and if they find something illegal on your account then its a  ground for them to suspend your account so make sure to play in accordance to their TOS and play with honesty since for that you can protect your account.
They knew it is impossible to always winning against the bookies in the long run , that is why they will accuse you for cheating pr something , cause yes it is impossiblo to keep winning all the time , doesnt makes sense and i believe this should be a very rare case like 1 in millions or so.
Dont forget that every casino , every bookmakers have their own risk management who taking care of this kind situation and the decision might be various.
I heard a lot of cases where the user account get limited for certain period due suspicious winning, it is happened so yes it depends.
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December 08, 2020, 01:36:13 PM
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A lot of places will just kick you out.

To understand think about how they make money.

Most make money by doing risk management and not hedging all bets. This means that if you are annoying and profitable, or profitable in markets they have trouble hedging then they might just kick you.

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There are plenty of places that wont, like decentral betting apps, fairlay, asianodds ect

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There is a huge percentage of chance that ypu will be investigated about. Basically KYC, mostly just to doublecheck and ensure you are not doing monkey business. If they are reputable and you are found not guilty of the accusation, they won't ban you. Simple as that. Most bookmakers are paid thru commisions so they don't hate to see you winning with a burning passion.
A lot of places will just kick you out.

To understand think about how they make money.

Most make money by doing risk management and not hedging all bets. This means that if you are annoying and profitable, or profitable in markets they have trouble hedging then they might just kick you.

BUT
There are plenty of places that wont, like decentral betting apps, fairlay, asianodds ect
This is also possible, again weigh your decisions OP. If you feel like you are not gonna be welcome in that online bettingbsite for too long, then it's best you stay away while you dtill haven't invested time, money and power.
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December 08, 2020, 09:50:56 PM
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This is something I don't get. If these bookmakers are going to suspend or restrict my account in the case of profiting too much, why should I even bother with sports betting in the first place? What's the point? Having fun while losing money?

Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it. In fact, since the pool and liqudity get bigger they should even support it. So, is it really the same case with bitcoin exchange sites too so that I should give up betting if I plan on winning in the end?

I don't think that they will do that because sports betting can't be cheated (don't know with casino) and if you win or profit in the long term and you are going to withdraw large sum of money from them, KYC documents are probably the thing they will ask from you. As long as you follow the terms in the TOS, i think you have no problem with them.
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