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August 25, 2022, 03:02:25 AM
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It will be interesting to see who will top the group. Because at some point (QF?) the winners of this group will probably play against Brazil. Anyway, the other two teams in the group (Japan and Costa Rica) should not be much of a worry for Spain. Their main target would be not to lose the match against Germany. A win would be better, but if that is not possible then even a draw will be good. In that case they just need to score enough goals to make sure that they top the group. IMO, Spain is having a higher probability compared to Germany.

That Germany vs Spain match will probably determine who wins the world cup.

I can easily see one of them ending up in the final and even winning it in the end.

Not sure where they would meet again if both keep winning their matches after both pass to the next stage, but it would be an interesting match to see happening.

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August 25, 2022, 05:19:24 AM
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Spain is good, but not as good as they once were around 2010. Then they became European champions, world champions and European champions again. They were almost unbeatable then. Only at the 2010 World Cup did they lose the opening match against Switzerland. They are certainly not favorites for the world title, but with a good draw and the right players in shape at the time of day, they can beat anyone. That was also seen some time ago when they crushed Germany. The group stage is going to be fun. Germany and Spain are together in the group and it seems to be a battle over who will be first, assuming that the other 2 countries will not play a significant role in this group.
That Spain team is probably one of the best national teams we have ever seen so it is natural they are not as strong as they once were, however they are competitive and they have a chance to win it all, however the fact they have to face Germany on the group phase is without a doubt a problem as Germany in a good day can beat them and they know it, also they will most likely have to face either Croatia or Belgium during the round of 16 and neither of those teams are easy to deal with.



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August 25, 2022, 06:59:36 AM
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That Spain team is probably one of the best national teams we have ever seen so it is natural they are not as strong as they once were, however they are competitive and they have a chance to win it all, however the fact they have to face Germany on the group phase is without a doubt a problem as Germany in a good day can beat them and they know it, also they will most likely have to face either Croatia or Belgium during the round of 16 and neither of those teams are easy to deal with.

At the moment, I think that both Spain and Germany are not as strong as expected and compared to previous years.
Both teams are going through a phase of player renewal, and they still haven't been able to find a balance point for this new generation.
But of course, as time goes by, they get better, and that's why until the Worlds, things can be different. Even so, I don't see these teams getting very far in the competition.

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August 25, 2022, 07:21:13 AM
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Spain is good, but not as good as they once were around 2010. Then they became European champions, world champions and European champions again. They were almost unbeatable then. Only at the 2010 World Cup did they lose the opening match against Switzerland. They are certainly not favorites for the world title, but with a good draw and the right players in shape at the time of day, they can beat anyone. That was also seen some time ago when they crushed Germany. The group stage is going to be fun. Germany and Spain are together in the group and it seems to be a battle over who will be first, assuming that the other 2 countries will not play a significant role in this group.
That Spain team is probably one of the best national teams we have ever seen so it is natural they are not as strong as they once were, however they are competitive and they have a chance to win it all, however the fact they have to face Germany on the group phase is without a doubt a problem as Germany in a good day can beat them and they know it, also they will most likely have to face either Croatia or Belgium during the round of 16 and neither of those teams are easy to deal with.


At the moment, I think that both Spain and Germany are not as strong as expected and compared to previous years.
Both teams are going through a phase of player renewal, and they still haven't been able to find a balance point for this new generation.
But of course, as time goes by, they get better, and that's why until the Worlds, things can be different. Even so, I don't see these teams getting very far in the competition.

I feel that I’m being bit harsh but I don’t see either sides as genuine contenders for lifting the World Cup, because they don’t play dominating football anymore and while they may cause an upset or two they definitely won’t win the World Cup.

Furthermore on paper these two sides should qualify from their group, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they had to struggle to qualify hence keep an eye on their form before deciding to wager on them.
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August 25, 2022, 07:40:52 AM
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I feel that I’m being bit harsh but I don’t see either sides as genuine contenders for lifting the World Cup, because they don’t play dominating football anymore and while they may cause an upset or two they definitely won’t win the World Cup.

Furthermore on paper these two sides should qualify from their group, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they had to struggle to qualify hence keep an eye on their form before deciding to wager on them.

I can definitely see any of those two teams in the quarter finals at least. Hard to predict who actually will end up winning the world cup though, as that requires a bit of luck as well.

Maybe we will see a South American final, Brazil vs Argentina, maybe The Netherlands ends up finally winning, maybe Cristiano Ronaldo surprises everyone, etc. Anything can happen.

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August 25, 2022, 08:23:33 AM
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Spain is good, but not as good as they once were around 2010. Then they became European champions, world champions and European champions again. They were almost unbeatable then. Only at the 2010 World Cup did they lose the opening match against Switzerland. They are certainly not favorites for the world title, but with a good draw and the right players in shape at the time of day, they can beat anyone. That was also seen some time ago when they crushed Germany. The group stage is going to be fun. Germany and Spain are together in the group and it seems to be a battle over who will be first, assuming that the other 2 countries will not play a significant role in this group.
That Spain team is probably one of the best national teams we have ever seen so it is natural they are not as strong as they once were, however they are competitive and they have a chance to win it all, however the fact they have to face Germany on the group phase is without a doubt a problem as Germany in a good day can beat them and they know it, also they will most likely have to face either Croatia or Belgium during the round of 16 and neither of those teams are easy to deal with.
In this world cup many things are different as we have in past mostly Germany and Spain favorite countries with Belgium but right now it's completely different because we have England, France and Netherlands in hot favorite list even these all teams are having good quality and can perform more than expectations, but change of transformation is good for healthy competition in European level with all teams are improving quality in last two decades and giving no room for South American competitors to give them tough challenge, but this world cup can bring some glory days back for Samba soccer because they are also improving quality and having good chance to win after two decades of poor performance.
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August 25, 2022, 08:34:50 AM
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~snip~

At the moment, I think that both Spain and Germany are not as strong as expected and compared to previous years.
Both teams are going through a phase of player renewal, and they still haven't been able to find a balance point for this new generation.
But of course, as time goes by, they get better, and that's why until the Worlds, things can be different. Even so, I don't see these teams getting very far in the competition.

yes, I agree. Spain squad is currently undergoing a phase of renewal of players, many of whom are young projections of the future of Spain. but in this world cup event, I don't expect more from their squad. the only experienced striker in the world cup is Alvaro Morata, and the rest are young players, while Pablo Sarabia is not too prominent in his career.

as well as the german squad, in their attack line filled with young players, as for the experienced players dominated by bayern munich players. their chances in the world cup is not too in the favourite.

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August 26, 2022, 01:34:14 AM
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yes, I agree. Spain squad is currently undergoing a phase of renewal of players, many of whom are young projections of the future of Spain. but in this world cup event, I don't expect more from their squad. the only experienced striker in the world cup is Alvaro Morata, and the rest are young players, while Pablo Sarabia is not too prominent in his career.

as well as the german squad, in their attack line filled with young players, as for the experienced players dominated by bayern munich players. their chances in the world cup is not too in the favourite.

Many of the younger players have experience in playing with some of the top Spanish clubs, such as Atlético Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona. Pablo Sarabia plays for Paris Saint-Germain along with Lionel Messi, Kylian Mbappé and Neymar. They have a relatively young squad, but I wouldn't label them as "inexperienced". They have some very experienced players in the defense and mid-field, such as Sergio Busquets, Koke and Jordi Alba.

Now coming to Germany, they will be sending a squad of 30+ oldies to this world cup. Thomas Müller, İlkay Gündoğan, Marco Reus and Manuel Neuer are all in their 30s. Now I don't know whether this is an advantage or a disadvantage.

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Senegal, Qatar and Ecuador all are in good shape and can give any result in presence of their quality players those are involved in UEFA clubs and have good enough experience.
Those three have to be the weakest teams in the world cup, not sure if this was supposed to be a joke post, but i definitely don't see any of them in good shape.

Of course the host team is always a favorite, but I'm not sure if Qatar will be able to go to the next round for example.
Well, I have seen what the Ecuadorian style of soccer is like, it is very similar to the Colombian, however I do not see them in good shape to play, I have not seen the case of QATAR and with Senegal I do not have much follow-up, only a couple of 3 time and it seems to me that they play well, I think they are in better shape than Ecuador, however they could not give me any prediction right now because it would be somewhat irresponsible, but I would like Qatar to go far in this World Cup, at least if they go to the round of 16 In the end, it is very likely that Qatar likes Ecuador, when comparing these teams with those of UEFA I don't think they will beat them, the European teams have a lot of level.

yes, I agree. Spain squad is currently undergoing a phase of renewal of players, many of whom are young projections of the future of Spain. but in this world cup event, I don't expect more from their squad. the only experienced striker in the world cup is Alvaro Morata, and the rest are young players, while Pablo Sarabia is not too prominent in his career.

as well as the german squad, in their attack line filled with young players, as for the experienced players dominated by bayern munich players. their chances in the world cup is not too in the favourite.

Many of the younger players have experience in playing with some of the top Spanish clubs, such as Atlético Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona. Pablo Sarabia plays for Paris Saint-Germain along with Lionel Messi, Kylian Mbappé and Neymar. They have a relatively young squad, but I wouldn't label them as "inexperienced". They have some very experienced players in the defense and mid-field, such as Sergio Busquets, Koke and Jordi Alba.

Now coming to Germany, they will be sending a squad of 30+ oldies to this world cup. Thomas Müller, İlkay Gündoğan, Marco Reus and Manuel Neuer are all in their 30s. Now I don't know whether this is an advantage or a disadvantage.
Well to tell the truth, things are like that, I think that before being a disadvantage with the veterans I think it will be a very big advantage because the experience in high-pressure games they know how to solve any eventuality, and for anyone it is not a reason to see them as old, but as the best, a veteran gets a penalty than a young man, a young man's nerves can betray, I don't want to say that a veteran doesn't, but he has more experience and that helps a lot when it comes to To have more security and confidence, the problem of young people is that their nerves block them, but at the same time they have irreverence that can help them do anything.

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Many of the younger players have experience in playing with some of the top Spanish clubs, such as Atlético Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona. Pablo Sarabia plays for Paris Saint-Germain along with Lionel Messi, Kylian Mbappé and Neymar. They have a relatively young squad, but I wouldn't label them as "inexperienced". They have some very experienced players in the defense and mid-field, such as Sergio Busquets, Koke and Jordi Alba.

Now coming to Germany, they will be sending a squad of 30+ oldies to this world cup. Thomas Müller, İlkay Gündoğan, Marco Reus and Manuel Neuer are all in their 30s. Now I don't know whether this is an advantage or a disadvantage.
I have been feeling it's going to be big advantage for Germany as they are sending few 30+ players, and they are also sending few youngsters which is going to be good for them and their strength and with this we can say Germany is also going to be as Dark Horse in this world cup with two other teams from Europe like Spain and Netherlands these teams can outclass any team on any day in any event with their quality and skill players.

Now in last few years, Spain is also going as power house in Europe even they are facing some issues but still good enough side and have good quality players those are right now enjoying good game against top class quality players in UEFA and have ability to done something amazing for their country in this event.

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Many of the younger players have experience in playing with some of the top Spanish clubs, such as Atlético Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona. Pablo Sarabia plays for Paris Saint-Germain along with Lionel Messi, Kylian Mbappé and Neymar. They have a relatively young squad, but I wouldn't label them as "inexperienced". They have some very experienced players in the defense and mid-field, such as Sergio Busquets, Koke and Jordi Alba.

Now coming to Germany, they will be sending a squad of 30+ oldies to this world cup. Thomas Müller, İlkay Gündoğan, Marco Reus and Manuel Neuer are all in their 30s. Now I don't know whether this is an advantage or a disadvantage.
I have been feeling it's going to be big advantage for Germany as they are sending few 30+ players, and they are also sending few youngsters which is going to be good for them and their strength and with this we can say Germany is also going to be as Dark Horse in this world cup with two other teams from Europe like Spain and Netherlands these teams can outclass any team on any day in any event with their quality and skill players.

Now in last few years, Spain is also going as power house in Europe even they are facing some issues but still good enough side and have good quality players those are right now enjoying good game against top class quality players in UEFA and have ability to done something amazing for their country in this event.
It good to see peoples passion on the FIFA world cup
There are so many predication - different people have different opinions. To me German, Spain and Senegal are very important teams

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August 28, 2022, 10:13:23 AM
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It good to see peoples passion on the FIFA world cup
There are so many predication - different people have different opinions. To me German, Spain and Senegal are very important teams
I also see Germany and Spain as the seeded countries in this FIFA world cup, but don't forget that everything is still very possible to happen in this world cup because other countries besides the two that I mentioned are also still possible to be better than Germany and Spain. Examples such as Portugal, England and also several others are countries that cannot be underestimated also in this world cup.

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It good to see peoples passion on the FIFA world cup
There are so many predication - different people have different opinions. To me German, Spain and Senegal are very important teams
I also see Germany and Spain as the seeded countries in this FIFA world cup, but don't forget that everything is still very possible to happen in this world cup because other countries besides the two that I mentioned are also still possible to be better than Germany and Spain. Examples such as Portugal, England and also several others are countries that cannot be underestimated also in this world cup.

In fact, we have a lot of good teams that have a chance to win the World Cup, I would also add Brazil, France and Belgium.
It's true that England and France played badly this year in the League of Nations and that is why some fans do not consider them favorites in the World Cup, but that is a wrong way of thinking.
The League of Nations is not a serious and important competition, and coaches mainly use it to prepare and train the team, and to test the possibilities of young players.
There is still a lot of time until the start of the world championship and everyone will come fully prepared, so we are expecting a very uncertain and exciting competition.

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August 28, 2022, 08:39:39 PM
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The passion is mainly because this is the biggest thing for everyone involved, which means that it is definitely going to be a rare thing to watch. This is the WHOLE world playing, how many things do you watch that includes the whole world?

I mean the champions league winners go out and play against other teams from other continents as well called "fifa club world cup" and the last time someone outside of Europe won that was in 2012, even though we had it every year. So, I am guessing that World cup is the only thing that brings the whole world together and that is why we are all interested in it, even though my nation is not in there, I still love watching it.

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August 29, 2022, 02:33:47 PM
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The passion is mainly because this is the biggest thing for everyone involved, which means that it is definitely going to be a rare thing to watch. This is the WHOLE world playing, how many things do you watch that includes the whole world?

I mean the champions league winners go out and play against other teams from other continents as well called "fifa club world cup" and the last time someone outside of Europe won that was in 2012, even though we had it every year. So, I am guessing that World cup is the only thing that brings the whole world together and that is why we are all interested in it, even though my nation is not in there, I still love watching it.
there is so much hype for the FIFA world world cup and people are going crazy for it.
I have read that security and the football for the tournament will be coming from Pakistan - what a big achievement for Pakistanis.

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August 29, 2022, 02:38:36 PM
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there is so much hype for the FIFA world world cup and people are going crazy for it.
I have read that security and the football for the tournament will be coming from Pakistan - what a big achievement for Pakistanis.
There's probably going to be a lot of local security as well, and I reckon any cheaper security from overseas that they can get.

The amount of extra visitors that a world cup brings is insane, so the country must prepare a lot, and security in particular is a key thing to keep in check.

I'm sure they're going to be very organized though.

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August 29, 2022, 04:14:14 PM
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There's probably going to be a lot of local security as well, and I reckon any cheaper security from overseas that they can get.

The amount of extra visitors that a world cup brings is insane, so the country must prepare a lot, and security in particular is a key thing to keep in check.

I'm sure they're going to be very organized though.


Security will certainly not be lacking, not least because the danger of a terrorist attack is high.
According to the latest news on the subject, it seems that NATO will provide assistance to the security of the World Cup. As well as Pakistan will provide military support in security.

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August 29, 2022, 08:03:10 PM
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There's probably going to be a lot of local security as well, and I reckon any cheaper security from overseas that they can get.

The amount of extra visitors that a world cup brings is insane, so the country must prepare a lot, and security in particular is a key thing to keep in check.

I'm sure they're going to be very organized though.
Qatar is well-developed and safe country in Gulf region because they are doing good for world peace as well in last few years but as this is first mega event which is going to be happened in Middle Ease many are rising their concerns about Terrorist activities as well because conspiracies and hypocrisies can play their part, but good thing is going with Qatar authorities they are not taking anything as their weakness and giving their best for having a well and good event in their country.

With the USA is also having their biggest arms depots here and too much NATO activity is also so with this all still they are giving contract to Pakistani Army is good because they feel they can manage this much better than others now we can hope for better end of this event and this could be a great achievement for all region countries.

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August 29, 2022, 11:13:48 PM
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There's probably going to be a lot of local security as well, and I reckon any cheaper security from overseas that they can get.

The amount of extra visitors that a world cup brings is insane, so the country must prepare a lot, and security in particular is a key thing to keep in check.

I'm sure they're going to be very organized though.


Security will certainly not be lacking, not least because the danger of a terrorist attack is high.
According to the latest news on the subject, it seems that NATO will provide assistance to the security of the World Cup. As well as Pakistan will provide military support in security.

Even the Indian officials were contacted back for providing security support during the event. 20 IPS officers from different domains attended the security seminar, but there is no official announcement about the personals getting involved with the event anymore.Indian officials to be part of 2022 FIFA World Cup security

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August 29, 2022, 11:32:38 PM
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The passion is mainly because this is the biggest thing for everyone involved, which means that it is definitely going to be a rare thing to watch. This is the WHOLE world playing, how many things do you watch that includes the whole world?

I mean the champions league winners go out and play against other teams from other continents as well called "fifa club world cup" and the last time someone outside of Europe won that was in 2012, even though we had it every year. So, I am guessing that World cup is the only thing that brings the whole world together and that is why we are all interested in it, even though my nation is not in there, I still love watching it.
there is so much hype for the FIFA world world cup and people are going crazy for it.
I have read that security and the football for the tournament will be coming from Pakistan - what a big achievement for Pakistanis.
they don't want things to get out of their hands and be prepared for everything, also people who want to crest trouble will think twice before trying anything stupid, I think Qatar's locals will try their best to behave accordingly and so is people visiting the country.

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