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Qatar hosting the FIFA at its best than the previous seasons. This is a big thing that the westerners can't accept. Maybe for the reason more stories are getting tied up with Qatar. For some reason all the claims against Qatar have been broken, but the death of workers during the development of the sports Village hasn't been cleared and it stands as a black mark over the host forever.
Very true as you said, I also really agree Qatar is the best FIFA host from the previous season, because they impose strict rules according to the rules that apply in their country, strongly oppose LGBT and are not allowed to have free sex Qatar also prohibits alcohol , those are big things that western countries cannot accept, so they accuse Qatar of bribing eight players from Ecuador for the opening match, even though all of these accusations are completely untrue, as evidenced in the opening match Qatar was defeated by Ecuador with a score of 2-0 , and in the second match they were also defeated by Senegal with a score of 3-1, they have confirmed that they will not qualify for the next round, in the last match Qatar will face the Netherlands, on paper the Netherlands can definitely secure 3 points and successfully qualify for the round of 16 .
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Qatar is really screwing up this opportunity to make some money, honor and fame for their country. They could have been rolling in the tourist money if they made a small zoned-off bubble for the western sensibilities. instead of showing the ugly sides of their culture. Now they have insulted so many people, including the people of Pernambuco, Brazil. For stomping on their flag. Qatar needs to get its shit together. It is basically "the Russia of holding World Cups" at this point. But, I have not yet witnessed a stoning of an LGBT. So props on that.
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Qatar is really screwing up this opportunity to make some money, honor and fame for their country. They could have been rolling in the tourist money if they made a small zoned-off bubble for the western sensibilities. instead of showing the ugly sides of their culture. Now they have insulted so many people, including the people of Pernambuco, Brazil. For stomping on their flag. Qatar needs to get its shit together. It is basically "the Russia of holding World Cups" at this point. But, I have not yet witnessed a stoning of an LGBT. So props on that. Making money may not be one of their motives, I am afraid. They spent hundreds of billions of USD in to this event, fully knowing that they may not recover even 10% of that amount. What they want is fame for their country. But it didn't worked out as expected. Human rights organizations used this opportunity to highlight the case of dead migrant workers and LGBT groups also used it to put discriminatory laws in the limelight. On top of that, most of the fans are angry, due to needless restrictions on partying and alcohol.
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Is it too difficult to respect the rules made by a house owner? I am very annoyed with people who can't respect the rules made by a house owner, All those who go to Qatar to watch the world cup must follow the rules that Qatar has made
Europe also has some rules that are applied by people who want to enter their country so those who disobey the rules of Qatar are not eligible to go there, but we have finished a lot of matches, can we say Qatar as the host this time quite successful in carrying out their responsibilities
the issue of Qatar bribing Ecuador players or some workers who died during construction, will be a historical record for Qatar when it hosts the world cup
The world cup is a global platform where different countries converge to entertain the world not only with football but cultural displays. Host nations should be able to adjust or refine their rules so that fans would have the opportunity to showcase their culture and also enjoy the tournament. I think FIFA should also consider the flexibility of most nations before they are given the right to host this tournament. The issue of inhuman treatment of immigrant workers and the high construction accident and death due to dangerous work descriptions is very disturbing. Thousand of workers lost their live because a country want to prove to the world that they are developed or have the capacity to host the world cup in a grand style. I have even read stories of mass arrest and deportation of workers without interrogation or investigation. And the most annoying part of this workers exploitation was that they were paid peanuts. The news of bribing eight Ecuador players turned out to be fake because Qatar have not gotten a point yet.
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The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.
Maybe Qatar isn't a very good host but it's all happening now, whether we like it or not. And those who go to Qatar to watch the World Cup in person must follow the rules there so they don't get into trouble later. If I'm not mistaken, there is a rule that allows drinking 3 hours before the match or 1 hour after the match ends but I don't know if that's true or not. Some rules have been changed because they conform to the existing rules and we, as an audience, must follow them. Muslim culture is very different - they have strict rules for beer and gambling. The point mentioned above is also very important - women are not supposed to touch stranger men and men dont touch women - this is the rule and everyone abide by this rule. Yes, that's correct. They should do as you say but nowadays people have changed a lot. Men can touch women and vice versa. Islam prohibits beer and gambling because later, it can make them not realize what they have been doing while drunk. The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.
Maybe Qatar isn't a very good host but it's all happening now, whether we like it or not. And those who go to Qatar to watch the World Cup in person must follow the rules there so they don't get into trouble later. If I'm not mistaken, there is a rule that allows drinking 3 hours before the match or 1 hour after the match ends but I don't know if that's true or not. Some rules have been changed because they conform to the existing rules and we, as an audience, must follow them. Is it too difficult to respect the rules made by a house owner? I am very annoyed with people who can't respect the rules made by a house owner, All those who go to Qatar to watch the world cup must follow the rules that Qatar has made Europe also has some rules that are applied by people who want to enter their country so those who disobey the rules of Qatar are not eligible to go there, but we have finished a lot of matches, can we say Qatar as the host this time quite successful in carrying out their responsibilities the issue of Qatar bribing Ecuador players or some workers who died during construction, will be a historical record for Qatar when it hosts the world cup Some people may find it difficult to comply with the rules made by the homeowner. And because there are spectators who come from other countries where drinking beer is normal for them, they cannot drink it freely while they are in Qatar because of Islamic rules there. The Qatari government is just trying to enforce the rules that have been made and this seems to be going quite well, although there may be people who still break the rules. But the issue in Qatar will not be known whether it is true or not and we as the audience, will not know either. So we better enjoy this World Cup and place bets for our favorite team.
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November 30, 2022, 04:49:13 AM |
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Is it too difficult to respect the rules made by a house owner? I am very annoyed with people who can't respect the rules made by a house owner, All those who go to Qatar to watch the world cup must follow the rules that Qatar has made
Europe also has some rules that are applied by people who want to enter their country so those who disobey the rules of Qatar are not eligible to go there, but we have finished a lot of matches, can we say Qatar as the host this time quite successful in carrying out their responsibilities
the issue of Qatar bribing Ecuador players or some workers who died during construction, will be a historical record for Qatar when it hosts the world cup
The world cup is a global platform where different countries converge to entertain the world not only with football but cultural displays. Host nations should be able to adjust or refine their rules so that fans would have the opportunity to showcase their culture and also enjoy the tournament. I think FIFA should also consider the flexibility of most nations before they are given the right to host this tournament. The issue of inhuman treatment of immigrant workers and the high construction accident and death due to dangerous work descriptions is very disturbing. Thousand of workers lost their live because a country want to prove to the world that they are developed or have the capacity to host the world cup in a grand style. I have even read stories of mass arrest and deportation of workers without interrogation or investigation. And the most annoying part of this workers exploitation was that they were paid peanuts. The news of bribing eight Ecuador players turned out to be fake because Qatar have not gotten a point yet. I agree with you here. I think those are alleged bribery. What really the real issue here is the exploitation of workers. This massive construction creates opportunities but on the other hand, it destroys someone's life and dreams. I pity those who sacrificews thier lives to me this project a reality.
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November 30, 2022, 11:39:47 AM |
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As Qatar was eliminated with 0 points in group stage we can return back to this thread. I still support my argument about someone (including Qatar) can never fix a World cup match. World cups are literally the most visible and watched football tournaments in the world. It can be too obvious. And it can be too large to hide. Qatar was very weak team, they were obviously gonna be eliminated. Some people exeggarated things that were happening within Qatar as they are unlikely candidate to world cup. Many people accused FIFA because of it.
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November 30, 2022, 11:54:18 AM |
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The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.
Maybe Qatar isn't a very good host but it's all happening now, whether we like it or not. And those who go to Qatar to watch the World Cup in person must follow the rules there so they don't get into trouble later. If I'm not mistaken, there is a rule that allows drinking 3 hours before the match or 1 hour after the match ends but I don't know if that's true or not. Some rules have been changed because they conform to the existing rules and we, as an audience, must follow them. Muslim culture is very different - they have strict rules for beer and gambling. The point mentioned above is also very important - women are not supposed to touch stranger men and men dont touch women - this is the rule and everyone abide by this rule. Yes, that's correct. They should do as you say but nowadays people have changed a lot. Men can touch women and vice versa. Islam prohibits beer and gambling because later, it can make them not realize what they have been doing while drunk. The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.
Maybe Qatar isn't a very good host but it's all happening now, whether we like it or not. And those who go to Qatar to watch the World Cup in person must follow the rules there so they don't get into trouble later. If I'm not mistaken, there is a rule that allows drinking 3 hours before the match or 1 hour after the match ends but I don't know if that's true or not. Some rules have been changed because they conform to the existing rules and we, as an audience, must follow them. Is it too difficult to respect the rules made by a house owner? I am very annoyed with people who can't respect the rules made by a house owner, All those who go to Qatar to watch the world cup must follow the rules that Qatar has made Europe also has some rules that are applied by people who want to enter their country so those who disobey the rules of Qatar are not eligible to go there, but we have finished a lot of matches, can we say Qatar as the host this time quite successful in carrying out their responsibilities the issue of Qatar bribing Ecuador players or some workers who died during construction, will be a historical record for Qatar when it hosts the world cup Some people may find it difficult to comply with the rules made by the homeowner. And because there are spectators who come from other countries where drinking beer is normal for them, they cannot drink it freely while they are in Qatar because of Islamic rules there. The Qatari government is just trying to enforce the rules that have been made and this seems to be going quite well, although there may be people who still break the rules. But the issue in Qatar will not be known whether it is true or not and we as the audience, will not know either. So we better enjoy this World Cup and place bets for our favorite team. Qatar is definitely organising an amazing and worth appreciating world cup and whole world is following it . Just there are some rules and regulations ins Qatar related to drinking and dressing up doesn't mean they are not good enough to organise such big event . Every country have their culture , morals and values and being a guest in a host country people should follow those rules with whole heart. I have heard stories about people who were caught by Qatari authorities for hiding wine in binoculars and going in stadium ,like I don't get one thing why is this so difficult for people to not drink for just 1 month or few days .
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November 30, 2022, 04:48:04 PM |
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Some people may find it difficult to comply with the rules made by the homeowner. And because there are spectators who come from other countries where drinking beer is normal for them, they cannot drink it freely while they are in Qatar because of Islamic rules there.
The Qatari government is just trying to enforce the rules that have been made and this seems to be going quite well, although there may be people who still break the rules. But the issue in Qatar will not be known whether it is true or not and we as the audience, will not know either. So we better enjoy this World Cup and place bets for our favorite team.
The problem is that when government reaches too far and prohibits you from doing something, then it becomes a trouble. I am not saying culturally you should do it or not, but if government blocks it from happening then it's a problem. Like let's say Qatar people do not drink, because of their culture, that's fine, there is nothing wrong with that, in fact that is a healthy thing, wish nobody drank, because it would be much healthier world if none of us ever drink. However, the moment you say "you can't drink, we don't allow you", that becomes a bad thing, because you are taking away freedom from people and that is the bad part in Qatar right now. Don't do it if you don't want to, but do not keep others from doing it just because you don't.
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As Qatar was eliminated with 0 points in group stage we can return back to this thread. I still support my argument about someone (including Qatar) can never fix a World cup match. World cups are literally the most visible and watched football tournaments in the world. It can be too obvious. And it can be too large to hide. Qatar was very weak team, they were obviously gonna be eliminated. Some people exeggarated things that were happening within Qatar as they are unlikely candidate to world cup. Many people accused FIFA because of it.
Since the beginning this issue has surfaced, ahead of the 3 day opening of the world cup begins. I am very skeptical, that this is just an issue that aims to bring down the name of the host of the world cup organizers this year. I believe it is, and it is a fact. Qatar squad, lost to Ecuador quite easily which ended 0-2. maybe for the Asian championship tournament, Qatar can still compete and they are even able to win the Asian Cup beating Japan. however, in the world cup they don't have any experience, they only appear as the home team, nothing more. This issue emerged based on a tweet from Amjad Taha, at least he is the person who must be held accountable for his statement. if our members are here, we only discuss whether or not this bribery issue is true. apart from all that, I am happy that Qatar's failure to the next round has made this scandalous issue a complete nonsense.
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