2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers

[joker_josue]

In fact, this World Cup in Qatar is going to be the best World Cup in history. Everyone is electing to make their party as strong as possible. This time Argentina, Brazil as the favorite team in the World Cup. They are in pretty good shape. The rest of the teams are working hard. I hope Qatar will present a good and spectacular World Cup this time.

I think saying that is also a bit of an exaggeration. We've had quite surprising world cups with several possible champions. This one really has a good set of teams capable of winning. Now, it is guaranteed to be the most controversial world cup of all time, without a doubt.

[Daniel91]

In fact, this World Cup in Qatar is going to be the best World Cup in history. Everyone is electing to make their party as strong as possible. This time Argentina, Brazil as the favorite team in the World Cup. They are in pretty good shape. The rest of the teams are working hard. I hope Qatar will present a good and spectacular World Cup this time.

How can you say that this will be the best world cup in history? Already some of the former players have spoken against the human rights abuses and corruption in Qatar. And fans are not happy with all the restrictions being imposed upon them. If you believe that splashing billions of USD just to show off their wealth can help Qatar, then you are wrong. They are yet to distribute fair compensation to the 6,000 plus workers who died during the construction of the world cup stadiums. I would rather say that this edition will be one of the worst in the history of FIFA and it will be like a black mark for them.

I agree with you. Qatar won the organization of this World Cup in a very dubious way, labor rights were clearly violated, and for many fans it will be very difficult to get there due to high travel and accommodation costs.
All this is very far from what we are used to seeing at the world championships in Brazil, Italy, Spain... where fans could truly enjoy the football spectacle.
The fans are no longer important, only the money and earnings from the tournament.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Today the hearing is supposed to happen, that is, when people explain everything and questions are asked.

I'm not sure when the official answer will be given. That could be today or in a few days.

I don't think there's any chance that Italy or any other external team would qualify. The only possible outcome is for the matches played by Ecuador to be forfeited. In that case, Chile would classify.

As far as I know, it is extremely rare for the FIFA appeals committee to overturn a ruling by the FIFA disciplinary committee. And back in June 10, the disciplinary committee had ruled in favor of Ecuador. We can expect a verdict within this week itself (probably within the next 24 hours). The hearing is being conducted from Zurich by a 3-judge bench, and is done remotely. The problem is that the ruling may not be final. If either Chile or Ecuador lose, they can still make another appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).

And FIFA made the final decision on this case.
https://www.fifa.com/legal/media-releases/fifa-appeal-committee-passes-decision-on-eligibility-of-player-byron-david

''The FIFA Appeal Committee has rendered its decision on the appeals lodged by the Chilean Football Association (FFCH) and the Peruvian Football Association (FPF) against the decision issued by the FIFA Disciplinary Committee on the potential ineligibility of the player Byron David Castillo Segura with regard to his participation in eight qualifying matches of the national team of the Ecuadorian Football Association (FEF) in the preliminary competition of the FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022™.

Having analysed the submissions of all parties and after a hearing had been conducted, the Appeal Committee confirmed the decision of the Disciplinary Committee to close the proceedings initiated against the FEF. Amongst other considerations, it deemed that on the basis of the documents presented, the player was to be considered as holding permanent Ecuadorian nationality in accordance with art. 5 par. 1 of the FIFA Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes.

The findings of the decision passed by the Appeal Committee were notified to the parties concerned today. The present decision remains subject to an appeal before the Court of Arbitration for Sport.''

Therefore, this decision is not yet final and Peru can still appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. However, will this final decision be made in time, before the start of the world championship in Qatar?
This is a very unpleasant situation for Ecuador because it may happen that they go to Qatar and find out a few days before the start of the World Cup that they are banned from participating in the World Cup.
The question is whether any other national team can really replace Ecuador so quickly and how much it would affect the regularity of the world championship.
What do you think?

This is something very painful for the Ecuadorian team, but and I say something, when FIFA decides something it is very difficult for it to be reversed, they can very well accept all the arguments that are necessary, but it is something impossible that for a player who has a nationality problem they have to remove him from the World Cup, although now I'm not sure how things are being handled in FIFA, if they excluded Russia, at the football level at least I can expect anything, more if there is money from By the way, we all know all the shady deals that were in FIFA a few years ago, but now Ecuador will play in the World Cup, it has already been repeated several times.

In fact, this World Cup in Qatar is going to be the best World Cup in history. Everyone is electing to make their party as strong as possible. This time Argentina, Brazil as the favorite team in the World Cup. They are in pretty good shape. The rest of the teams are working hard. I hope Qatar will present a good and spectacular World Cup this time.

I think saying that is also a bit of an exaggeration. We've had quite surprising world cups with several possible champions. This one really has a good set of teams capable of winning. Now, it is guaranteed to be the most controversial world cup of all time, without a doubt.

Well, I think that if it is a controversial World Cup, well now you have to see everything that happened, first the change of dates, because this World Cup will be held in November when it was always held in June, the eyes of the world are also on Argentina and Portugal, because the biggest controversy will be about CR7 and Messi for the simple fact that it will be his last World Cup, it can also be speculated that Brazil will have a very good performance, it is also said that it will be the last World Cup for Neymar Jr, so all these things come together and they can perform in a great game and everything will turn towards them, we cannot forget that Germany, Spain, France are teams that can surprise.

In fact, this World Cup in Qatar is going to be the best World Cup in history. Everyone is electing to make their party as strong as possible. This time Argentina, Brazil as the favorite team in the World Cup. They are in pretty good shape. The rest of the teams are working hard. I hope Qatar will present a good and spectacular World Cup this time.

How can you say that this will be the best world cup in history? Already some of the former players have spoken against the human rights abuses and corruption in Qatar. And fans are not happy with all the restrictions being imposed upon them. If you believe that splashing billions of USD just to show off their wealth can help Qatar, then you are wrong. They are yet to distribute fair compensation to the 6,000 plus workers who died during the construction of the world cup stadiums. I would rather say that this edition will be one of the worst in the history of FIFA and it will be like a black mark for them.

I agree with you. Qatar won the organization of this World Cup in a very dubious way, labor rights were clearly violated, and for many fans it will be very difficult to get there due to high travel and accommodation costs.
All this is very far from what we are used to seeing at the world championships in Brazil, Italy, Spain... where fans could truly enjoy the football spectacle.
The fans are no longer important, only the money and earnings from the tournament.

Well, we cannot forget that soccer has a great business model that is obvious that what they most want to have is money and spend a lot of money, Qatar is no exception, yes, yes, it is a good World Cup and it will be different, but this is something that cannot be avoided, the rules are many things, even in hotel stays and everything is very radical, this is something that cannot be disregarded, some tourists complain, and it is not for less, if you go to a World Cup people are going to meet, to disfuar and obviously there must be rules, but not so strict, it is obvious that a lot of money must be spent, but in that country much more is spent.

[keyscore44]

Judging by the bookmakers' estimates, the Netherlands have approximately equal chances with Spain and Germany. The Netherlands are rated at 12.7 and Spain and Germany at 8.8 and 10.7. These are fairly close estimates, indicating that the Netherlands is in the group of favorites.
By the way, why do you think that European teams will perform badly at the World Cup? The Cup is formally held in Asia, but in fact it is a time zone in Europe. Therefore, I rather expect that Europe, as always, will dominate.

I don't agree with this. Spain maybe the favorites from the UEFA region and Germany is also a quite strong side (although they have performed very poorly in the UEFA nations league). Netherlands is far behind when compared to these two teams.

I am just assuming that UEFA teams will find it hard to adjust to the climatic conditions in the middle-east. Last time, when the world cup was held in Asia (South Korea/Japan), it was Brazil who lifted the trophy. Another aspect is that none of the UEFA teams (not even Spain) seems to be in peak form right now. Brazil seems to be far ahead of all the other teams.

World Cup 2022 which is going to be played in Qatar with climate change and Conditions are surely going to have impact on many teams specially from UEFA countries because they need time for adjustment, but they have no enough time for this just because of European soccer season is on peak, so this is also going against them with teams from Africa and South America both are in better shape just because of these conditions with right now most of the UEFA top teams are in development process which is surely another factor for having not good performance from them many are coming with youths and few are having issues which are not going to settle soon.
 
Argentina and Brazil are also having youths, but they are better prepared for this and can do good performance, which is also big factor for having title in their pocket this time.

Argentina and Brazil are in great form this time. But I think Argentina team is more confident than Brazil. Their team understanding is very good. The coach of the team gave a unique introduction to his skills. This time most football lovers want to see Argentina win the World Cup. Good luck to Argentina.

[snipie]

In fact, this World Cup in Qatar is going to be the best World Cup in history. Everyone is electing to make their party as strong as possible. This time Argentina, Brazil as the favorite team in the World Cup. They are in pretty good shape. The rest of the teams are working hard. I hope Qatar will present a good and spectacular World Cup this time.

I think saying that is also a bit of an exaggeration. We've had quite surprising world cups with several possible champions. This one really has a good set of teams capable of winning. Now, it is guaranteed to be the most controversial world cup of all time, without a doubt.

Qatar spent a lot of money to build and make its stadium and infrastructure very attractive. Besides, this World Cup is the first in the region.
Now, how successful will be, will be evaluated throughout the games.
I agree that in this game there isn't a clear favourite, most teams are equivalent with slight advantage for Brazil then Argentina but as everyone knows, in World Cup, you always see surprises and big teams might be eliminated early.

[Boristhecat]

I doubt that anyone will bother to check the pairs of tourists who, although for the sake of formalities, entered the country separately, but walk and sleep together. I know about the conservative nature of this country, but we all understand that any ideology has a huge amount of hypocrisy - if we turn to religion, then all these "entertainment" games/competitions are not encouraged by the radicals. But nevertheless, Qatar wants to hold this tournament and wants to attract tourists. I am sure that tourists informally will behave very freely during the World Cup, although formal restrictions will allegedly take place.

I think need respect about culture in Qatar and not make the same with other countries allowed with alcoholic and some thing bad based on culture in Qatar. I don't sure this reason seem controversy and need to debate, based on religion in some countries we need respect and did which one allowed and left with some rule not allowed in Qatar. Simple I see what rule have applicated by Qatar government and I think this time World Cup begin more luxurious than held in other country before. I don't see reason about Qatar try to make difficult for tourist in this World Cup because they have make all easy if each other side understood about rule and culture there.

On the one hand, I completely agree with you that a foreign culture must be respected (since they are in their own country and do not impose it on you). But on the other hand, this is a controversial issue, since football has its own culture and football is international, which means that part of the global culture (which directly contradicts the culture of Qatar) is inseparable from football.
In general, I do not understand why Qatar was so eager to get the right to host the World Cup in the presence of such contradictions.
Why didn't they think of buying from Germany the right to host the annual Oktoberfest and ban beer because of their internal rules? That would be comparable logic.

[koang]

Qatar spent a lot of money to build and make its stadium and infrastructure very attractive. Besides, this World Cup is the first in the region.
Now, how successful will be, will be evaluated throughout the games.
I agree that in this game there isn't a clear favourite, most teams are equivalent with slight advantage for Brazil then Argentina but as everyone knows, in World Cup, you always see surprises and big teams might be eliminated early.

The 2022 World Cup is the Most Expensive FIFA Tournament in History.
The costs incurred are almost 20 times the funds spent by Russia to host the 2018 World Cup.
But economically, the World Cup is also predicted to provide many advantages for Qatar.
Estimated that during the world cup, will be around 1.2 million visitors come and watch live at the stadium.
And will add revenue for the Qatar economy to $17 billion.

Btw, I hope there will be a new world champion outside that has won the world cup before.

[nullama]

~snip~
The 2022 World Cup is the Most Expensive FIFA Tournament in History.
The costs incurred are almost 20 times the funds spent by Russia to host the 2018 World Cup.
But economically, the World Cup is also predicted to provide many advantages for Qatar.
Estimated that during the world cup, will be around 1.2 million visitors come and watch live at the stadium.
And will add revenue for the Qatar economy to $17 billion.

Btw, I hope there will be a new world champion outside that has won the world cup before.

It's always a bit of a gamble for the hosting country, sometimes they spend way too much preparing and building stadiums, etc, and then the money they collected is just not enough to cover those costs.

An interesting point is that in Qatar there's a ban on alcohol, which is one of the areas in which hosts make the most money from.

We'll have to wait and see how it goes.

[Daniel91]

Qatar spent a lot of money to build and make its stadium and infrastructure very attractive. Besides, this World Cup is the first in the region.
Now, how successful will be, will be evaluated throughout the games.
I agree that in this game there isn't a clear favourite, most teams are equivalent with slight advantage for Brazil then Argentina but as everyone knows, in World Cup, you always see surprises and big teams might be eliminated early.

Btw, I hope there will be a new world champion outside that has won the world cup before.

There is a chance that we will get a new world champion at this world championship, but the chances of that are not great.
The main favorites at this world championship are already the usual national teams that have been world champions several times, such as Brazil, Argentina, France, Germany, Spain...
Of the national teams that have never been world champions, according to predictions, the Netherlands, Belgium and Croatia have the best chances.
At the last world championship in Russia, Croatia lost to France in the final, so there is certainly a chance that we get a new world champion.

[m_nief]

Qatar spent a lot of money to build and make its stadium and infrastructure very attractive. Besides, this World Cup is the first in the region.
Now, how successful will be, will be evaluated throughout the games.
I agree that in this game there isn't a clear favourite, most teams are equivalent with slight advantage for Brazil then Argentina but as everyone knows, in World Cup, you always see surprises and big teams might be eliminated early.

Qatar have build most excellent infrastructure and stadium than other countries have participants to be host in FIFA World Cup, I think one weakness with World Cup 2022 because began almost at the end of years were usually World Cup playin on middle year on June until July. Excitement waiting World Cup in Qatar begin to watch directly how excellent infrastructure and stadium build by Qatar because many ex player not agree with Qatar as host in this World Cup, ever Philip Lahm as ex Germany player want to ban in this time World Cup edition and he doesn't interested to watch in stadium.

[RealMalatesta]

~snip~
The 2022 World Cup is the Most Expensive FIFA Tournament in History.
The costs incurred are almost 20 times the funds spent by Russia to host the 2018 World Cup.
But economically, the World Cup is also predicted to provide many advantages for Qatar.
Estimated that during the world cup, will be around 1.2 million visitors come and watch live at the stadium.
And will add revenue for the Qatar economy to $17 billion.

Btw, I hope there will be a new world champion outside that has won the world cup before.

It's always a bit of a gamble for the hosting country, sometimes they spend way too much preparing and building stadiums, etc, and then the money they collected is just not enough to cover those costs.

An interesting point is that in Qatar there's a ban on alcohol, which is one of the areas in which hosts make the most money from.

We'll have to wait and see how it goes.

Qatar is not a nation who lacks money, they have plenty of money and they do not worry about anything regarding the finances of this deal. The only thing they want to achieve is to look good to Europe and nothing more. With this tournament there would be a lot of people who will see a fake Qatar that is understanding and loving, and that’s not going to be the case as we all know.

The reality is much darker, but they will shade it white to look cute towards world powers and its citizens. I have seen this a lot in other sports and that’s why I won't buy it, but there will be plenty of people who would, this money spent is like advertisement, it’s not to make sure they profit, it’s there to promote Qatar to world stage.

[nullama]

~snip~
Qatar is not a nation who lacks money, they have plenty of money and they do not worry about anything regarding the finances of this deal. The only thing they want to achieve is to look good to Europe and nothing more. With this tournament there would be a lot of people who will see a fake Qatar that is understanding and loving, and that’s not going to be the case as we all know.

The reality is much darker, but they will shade it white to look cute towards world powers and its citizens. I have seen this a lot in other sports and that’s why I won't buy it, but there will be plenty of people who would, this money spent is like advertisement, it’s not to make sure they profit, it’s there to promote Qatar to world stage.

We'll have to wait and see how many foreign people get arrested for drinking beer or simply kissing a girl in public.

There are many strict rules in Qatar about those things, and many foreigners will probably end up doing all the "wrong things".

[alegotardo]

We'll have to wait and see how many foreign people get arrested for drinking beer or simply kissing a girl in public.

There are many strict rules in Qatar about those things, and many foreigners will probably end up doing all the "wrong things".

As strict as the rules are in Qatar, I believe that foreigners who are arrested for drinking or kissing in public are likely to have their prison sentences converted into a fine.
Obviously it won't be a cheap fine, because Qatar needs to impose that respect, but I believe that there will be this flexibility for those who are foreigners.
Of course, it all depends on the "damage" that the person commits... in the case of being absurdly drunk or parading naked through the streets, it should result in much bigger problems than a simple fine.

[nullama]

~snip~
As strict as the rules are in Qatar, I believe that foreigners who are arrested for drinking or kissing in public are likely to have their prison sentences converted into a fine.
Obviously it won't be a cheap fine, because Qatar needs to impose that respect, but I believe that there will be this flexibility for those who are foreigners.
Of course, it all depends on the "damage" that the person commits... in the case of being absurdly drunk or parading naked through the streets, it should result in much bigger problems than a simple fine.

I'm not sure, specially after reading this case:

A Mexican woman reported an assault in Qatar. She faces jail, 100 lashes.
"Although I had the forensic evidence of the beatings and everything, they believed him," Paola Schietekat said about the incident, which has made international headlines.

[Daniel91]

~snip~
As strict as the rules are in Qatar, I believe that foreigners who are arrested for drinking or kissing in public are likely to have their prison sentences converted into a fine.
Obviously it won't be a cheap fine, because Qatar needs to impose that respect, but I believe that there will be this flexibility for those who are foreigners.
Of course, it all depends on the "damage" that the person commits... in the case of being absurdly drunk or parading naked through the streets, it should result in much bigger problems than a simple fine.

I'm not sure, specially after reading this case:

A Mexican woman reported an assault in Qatar. She faces jail, 100 lashes.
"Although I had the forensic evidence of the beatings and everything, they believed him," Paola Schietekat said about the incident, which has made international headlines.

This World Cup is very important for Qatar, as a big promotion of their country in the world, and for political and tourist reasons I believe they will not strictly enforce their strict laws on alcohol or kissing in public, at least while the World Cup lasts.
After all, how many policemen would Qatar need to have if it could control thousands of foreign fans who will come to the country, and personally check every fan, what they drink or do in public. That would be mission impossible.
Do you really think that their police will monitor what men and women do and punish them for kissing, hugging or having sex with each other with lashes and imprisonment?
Such a thing would cause a big world scandal and probably some national teams would refuse to play in the World Cup, and because of this, Qatar will temporarily relax the enforcement of its strict laws until the World Cup is over.

[nullama]

~snip~
This World Cup is very important for Qatar, as a big promotion of their country in the world, and for political and tourist reasons I believe they will not strictly enforce their strict laws on alcohol or kissing in public, at least while the World Cup lasts.
After all, how many policemen would Qatar need to have if it could control thousands of foreign fans who will come to the country, and personally check every fan, what they drink or do in public. That would be mission impossible.
Do you really think that their police will monitor what men and women do and punish them for kissing, hugging or having sex with each other with lashes and imprisonment?
Such a thing would cause a big world scandal and probably some national teams would refuse to play in the World Cup, and because of this, Qatar will temporarily relax the enforcement of its strict laws until the World Cup is over.

Well that's why I added the link, it already started. It was a woman traveling for the preparations of the world cup and she was raped there, she told the police about it and she is now facing jail for having sex outside of marriage.

[blue_hurricanger]

Qatar spent a lot of money to build and make its stadium and infrastructure very attractive. Besides, this World Cup is the first in the region.
Now, how successful will be, will be evaluated throughout the games.
I agree that in this game there isn't a clear favourite, most teams are equivalent with slight advantage for Brazil then Argentina but as everyone knows, in World Cup, you always see surprises and big teams might be eliminated early.

The 2022 World Cup is the Most Expensive FIFA Tournament in History.
The costs incurred are almost 20 times the funds spent by Russia to host the 2018 World Cup.
But economically, the World Cup is also predicted to provide many advantages for Qatar.
Estimated that during the world cup, will be around 1.2 million visitors come and watch live at the stadium.
And will add revenue for the Qatar economy to $17 billion.

Btw, I hope there will be a new world champion outside that has won the world cup before.

No amount of advantages or benefits that experts estimate are worth the hard-cold fact this Qatar World Cup cost more than 200 billion dollars so far. Can the 1.2 million visitors or $17 billion in revenue from everything together pay off the 200 billion dollars cost? Nope, no matter how much those experts want to spin.

You know, that's fine with Qatar too cause I said many times, they don't give a fuck about profit. This World Cup is held in their county as a huge ego-tripping to show off to the world how rich they're. How much money they could waste cause they're from the OPEC+ club. They'll get back the money by selling their oils to you, at a higher price, of course. The energy crisis might be damned and they laughed at your face since you're the one financial their lavish spending in this World Cup.

[dezoel]

We'll have to wait and see how many foreign people get arrested for drinking beer or simply kissing a girl in public.

There are many strict rules in Qatar about those things, and many foreigners will probably end up doing all the "wrong things".

As strict as the rules are in Qatar, I believe that foreigners who are arrested for drinking or kissing in public are likely to have their prison sentences converted into a fine.
Obviously it won't be a cheap fine, because Qatar needs to impose that respect, but I believe that there will be this flexibility for those who are foreigners.
Of course, it all depends on the "damage" that the person commits... in the case of being absurdly drunk or parading naked through the streets, it should result in much bigger problems than a simple fine.

Surely this is going to be the biggest concern right now and FIFA organizer and Qatar authorities are in talk about this all which is going to be having no positive end for fans because I read on few sites Qatar authorities are not going to give any soft policy so with this we can expect good number of fines instead of having prison sentences because this can create more feud which is not good for Qatar and this event they are already working on this through few videos which are promoted by many western celebrities as they want all tourists must follow their rules and culture instead of doing their own enjoyments which are not allowed in strict rules.

This one month event is going to be real drama for these are not familiar with these strict Islamic rules and never have any visit to any Muslim country which is having tough policies as mostly peoples are familiar with Turkey, Dubai and Morocco which are had soft policies and many other celebrations and enjoyments are allowed here.

[Sithara007]

No amount of advantages or benefits that experts estimate are worth the hard-cold fact this Qatar World Cup cost more than 200 billion dollars so far. Can the 1.2 million visitors or $17 billion in revenue from everything together pay off the 200 billion dollars cost? Nope, no matter how much those experts want to spin.

You know, that's fine with Qatar too cause I said many times, they don't give a fuck about profit. This World Cup is held in their county as a huge ego-tripping to show off to the world how rich they're. How much money they could waste cause they're from the OPEC+ club. They'll get back the money by selling their oils to you, at a higher price, of course. The energy crisis might be damned and they laughed at your face since you're the one financial their lavish spending in this World Cup.

Can't put it any better than this. LNG is the main export from Qatar and the prices have go up by 10x to 20x compared to 2021 levels. Qatar will be earning hundreds of billions of USD in profit this year. And that is the reason why they don't give a fuck to all those complaints about human rights abuses, restrictions on tourists and discrimination against LGBTs. They will treat visitors and fans the same way as some rich man treats beggars on street. And the vast majority of the visitors won't be having a problem with that.

[blue_hurricanger]

No amount of advantages or benefits that experts estimate are worth the hard-cold fact this Qatar World Cup cost more than 200 billion dollars so far. Can the 1.2 million visitors or $17 billion in revenue from everything together pay off the 200 billion dollars cost? Nope, no matter how much those experts want to spin.

You know, that's fine with Qatar too cause I said many times, they don't give a fuck about profit. This World Cup is held in their county as a huge ego-tripping to show off to the world how rich they're. How much money they could waste cause they're from the OPEC+ club. They'll get back the money by selling their oils to you, at a higher price, of course. The energy crisis might be damned and they laughed at your face since you're the one financial their lavish spending in this World Cup.

Can't put it any better than this. LNG is the main export from Qatar and the prices have go up by 10x to 20x compared to 2021 levels. Qatar will be earning hundreds of billions of USD in profit this year. And that is the reason why they don't give a fuck to all those complaints about human rights abuses, restrictions on tourists and discrimination against LGBTs. They will treat visitors and fans the same way as some rich man treats beggars on street. And the vast majority of the visitors won't be having a problem with that.

Yeah, and that is where it bugs me off. I don't know, maybe I've become jaded after seeing so many things past few years. From the covid pandemic, the war in Ukraine, the energy crisis, the world economy in recession,... When I look at the World Cup in Qatar, I can not see it as a normal soccer game anymore. Or free from political stuff that we used to say sports remove the barrier and bring people all around the world together. All the 'noise' behind it, the ugly at how it has become.

Some posts earlier talked about: What are we going to do about it? There is nothing we could do. Cause no amount of boycott worth jack shit as Qatar doesn't care about profit. So what? Might just come to the acceptance phase and just enjoy it? Hell no.