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December 09, 2020, 04:41:18 AM
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Newbies - Read before using exchanges or investing

The old scam in 2018: [QUESTION] Altex Exchange Down ?
https://twitter.com/Altex_exchangeR
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqk2fh
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A quick headsup from us: We have been experiencing issues with two of our listed coins (they were still affected by the double counting bug recently found in the monero codebase, even after updating the software). That bug caused a big loss in coins for the exchange and we have put our main currency under maintenance so the people who exploited the bug can no longer withdraw. After a really long investigation we found out that we still lost a big amount. This was caused by the coins software, it was not a bug in our system. We already contacted the developers and we are trying to find a way to solve this. Furthermore our main developers have been on holiday for the past week. We are still a small exchange and cannot afford to offer many developer jobs yet. We will suspend trading for now and keep writing updates on our twitter. We are trying to resolve this situation ASAP, we hope you understand.

I lost my money on the Altex exchange in 2018. It is my bad and my sad story and I don't want you newbies repeat my mistakes.

Bull market means scammers will be more active. Scammers can be scam developers or scam exchange operators. Scam developers create scam projects with scam altcoins or scam tokens. They can create their scam exchanges or can cooperate with scam exchange operators to list their coins and pump the price with listing news.

At the ends, only newbies will lose money.
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December 09, 2020, 06:15:17 AM
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Quite a lot of users have deposited funds into scam exchanges and lost their funds to scammers, the thing is, there is actually no need to test out every new exchange that you see, and even if you want to, play around/test this exchange with a very small amount of money, so if the exchange is eventually a scam, you'll more or less lose nothing. Having said that, if the coins you want to trade is only listed on a small or new exchange, make sure you always pull out your funds the moment you're done; and if an exchange mandates you to deposit X amount to be able to use their platform, do not send/trust, verify, it'll most times likely be a scam one.

Mind you also that it's not only on new exchanges funds could be lost, the reputable ones have been hacked at one time or the other, so why store your coins there, you'll only lose them when the next hack happens, "it's not your keys, it's definitely not your coins".

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December 09, 2020, 08:18:21 AM
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There will be at least two instances when newbies or even experienced users want to use new exchanges, either:
1. There is a promotion that promises to give x% return of the money they deposited to the exchange (or other kinds of promotions that basically require users to deposit).
2. They need to exchange some shitcoins that are only listed on those exchanges.

IMO if you need to do those, never do KYC and only use a small part of your money. A better option would be to wait until they prove their security. I've been a victim too in the past because I need to sell some shitcoins, and I never got my money back.

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December 10, 2020, 03:58:42 AM
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There will be at least two instances when newbies or even experienced users want to use new exchanges, either:
1. There is a promotion that promises to give x% return of the money they deposited to the exchange (or other kinds of promotions that basically require users to deposit).
2. They need to exchange some shitcoins that are only listed on those exchanges.
You can actually trade and withdraw your crypto from those exchanges before the days they do their exits. They provides a very friendly exchange for developers and users. Developers can list any coin they want. With Altex, they listed many coins free of listing fee to attract projects and users. People who mined or bought shit altcoins need a place to sell it and Altex gave them a place. Finally, people cashed out their shit altcoins to BTC, LTC, XMR, etc. and if they did not withdraw from that exchange, later they will be scammed and lost money.

I don't give anyone my advice that those exchanges are safe and should be used but if they are scammed initially to mine shit altcoins, it is better to have exchange to cash out. The key thing is withdraw immediately after sell orders are filled. Don't trade on those exchanges.

Before scam exits, they often shed some lights of exits. In my topic you can see the exit of Crypto Bridge (forced KYC on US customers and one or few months later, they forced KYC for global users. Weeks later, they exited (with money and identities of users).

I was scammed by Altex but fortunately I did not KYC with CryptoBridge and withdrawn my money in the given time.

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IMO if you need to do those, never do KYC and only use a small part of your money. A better option would be to wait until they prove their security. I've been a victim too in the past because I need to sell some shitcoins, and I never got my money back.
Why KYC is extremely dangerous – and useless
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December 10, 2020, 04:46:19 AM
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Well that was a great share. I am sure I am also one of the readers here that will going to learn in this thing. I know that the bullish trend will be the reason for this hackers, scammers and phishers to take advantage. So, based on your experience then it might be good if we will be using a legit exchange. In my case I will be only using an exchange that has been regulated with third party service anscense to operate as an exchange. Though they get huge fees but as long as it is safer compared to other then that would do good.
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January 05, 2021, 12:30:38 AM
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Newbies - Read before using exchanges or investing

The old scam in 2018: [QUESTION] Altex Exchange Down ?
https://twitter.com/Altex_exchangeR
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqk2fh
Quote
Headsup
A quick headsup from us: We have been experiencing issues with two of our listed coins (they were still affected by the double counting bug recently found in the monero codebase, even after updating the software). That bug caused a big loss in coins for the exchange and we have put our main currency under maintenance so the people who exploited the bug can no longer withdraw. After a really long investigation we found out that we still lost a big amount. This was caused by the coins software, it was not a bug in our system. We already contacted the developers and we are trying to find a way to solve this. Furthermore our main developers have been on holiday for the past week. We are still a small exchange and cannot afford to offer many developer jobs yet. We will suspend trading for now and keep writing updates on our twitter. We are trying to resolve this situation ASAP, we hope you understand.

I lost my money on the Altex exchange in 2018. It is my bad and my sad story and I don't want you newbies repeat my mistakes.

Bull market means scammers will be more active. Scammers can be scam developers or scam exchange operators. Scam developers create scam projects with scam altcoins or scam tokens. They can create their scam exchanges or can cooperate with scam exchange operators to list their coins and pump the price with listing news.

At the ends, only newbies will lose money.

Still, scamming off? Now the type of scam has changed. I know many scam exchanges are promoting online. But those things, we will trade without verification? Newcomers should check and test with a small amount, then there will be no big loss.

But trusted exchanges are being spammed. Newcomers are getting caught a lot more. Because now most of the Chinese exchanges are online. Most of these exchanges have fake volume and fake trading. For example, if some new tokens are listed on these exchanges. Then there is a lot of fake trade. Due to which the newcomers will not understand and will buy at a higher price by mistake and will sell at a lower price.

Let me explain, for example, the current price of a token is: 0.0003 USDT. However, the purchase order is 0.00028 USDT. And sale order 0.00019 USDT. Now the question is, how do they buy tokens with this price of 0.0003? There are a lot of trades, but the orders of those who are buying and selling orders are not being completed. So if that happens, newcomers will not understand what is happening. So my suggestion, don't use all exchanges. Trade on exchanges that have real trades and real volumes. and stay away from Hotbit and Bkex exchange, because these are the most popular Chinese exchanges.
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