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December 11, 2020, 07:19:48 PM
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since i have not found a similar thread via the search function, i have now decided to open this thread and then continue this every year. Smiley
this should give us more information about the annual elections for the best footballers, goalkeepers, coaches,...

this year is on the 17th december so far and there are in each category now the 3 best actors to vote for...

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The Best FIFA Women’s Player:
Lucy Bronze (England / Olympique Lyonnais / Manchester City WFC)
Pernille Harder (Denmark / VfL Wolfsburg / Chelsea FC Women)
Wendie Renard (France / Olympique Lyonnais)

The Best FIFA Men’s Player:
Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal / Juventus FC)
Robert Lewandowski (Poland / FC Bayern München)
Lionel Messi (Argentina / FC Barcelona)

The Best FIFA Women’s Goalkeeper:
Sarah Bouhaddi (France / Olympique Lyonnais)
Christiane Endler (Chile / Paris Saint-Germain)
Alyssa Naeher (USA / Chicago Red Stars)

The Best FIFA Men’s Goalkeeper:
Alisson Becker (Brazil / Liverpool FC)
Manuel Neuer (Germany / FC Bayern München)
Jan Oblak (Slovenia / Atlético de Madrid)

The Best FIFA Women’s Coach:
Emma Hayes (England / Chelsea FC Women)
Jean-Luc Vasseur (France / Olympique Lyonnais)
Sarina Wiegman (Netherlands / Dutch national team)

The Best FIFA Men’s Coach:
Marcelo Bielsa (Argentina / Leeds United FC)
Hans-Dieter Flick (Germany / FC Bayern München)
Jürgen Klopp (Germany / Liverpool FC)
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/lewandowski-nominated-for-world-player-of-the-year-flick-amp-neuer-also-hopeful/view/news/376002
https://www.fifa.com/the-best-fifa-football-awards/news/finalists-announced-for-the-best-fifa-football-awardstm-2020

my personal favorites are all bayern munich actors - R. Lewandowski, Manuel Neuer and H. Flick

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December 11, 2020, 07:34:25 PM
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would find it hard to believe that Marcelo Bielsa is nominated for the award, what is his best achievement this year, that have put him with Klopp and Flick
there is a tone of difference between them, and I do not think that Bielsa is never near to be nominated, although like to see Leeds in Premier league

my picks are with Lewandovski, just because I am tired of Ronaldo and Messi, Klopp, because it was a magnificent season for Liverpool in Premier league and Oblak, because it is a hell of a job to score against Atletico Madrid
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December 11, 2020, 08:27:33 PM
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would find it hard to believe that Marcelo Bielsa is nominated for the award, what is his best achievement this year, that have put him with Klopp and Flick
there is a tone of difference between them, and I do not think that Bielsa is never near to be nominated, although like to see Leeds in Premier league

my picks are with Lewandovski, just because I am tired of Ronaldo and Messi, Klopp, because it was a magnificent season for Liverpool in Premier league and Oblak, because it is a hell of a job to score against Atletico Madrid

maybe because he was promoted to the premier league again after 16 years with leeds united. i can't explain it any other way... Roll Eyes

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December 11, 2020, 08:43:23 PM
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Robert Lewandovski stands head and shoulder high above cristiano ronaldo and Leonel messi last season, picking the best men's Football this year is so easy, Lewandovski with his bayern munchi team-mate where in a perfect sync,
Best men's coach for me is Klopp, I know bayern munchi and many others thinks that bayern coach deserves it although he deserves and most likely, but klopp built a team from the scratch to break a long standing jinx, Liverpool where exciting last season.

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December 12, 2020, 11:48:14 AM
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Robert Lewandovski stands head and shoulder high above cristiano ronaldo and Leonel messi last season
If not bias, Robert Lewandovski is the the best FIFA men’s player, he worked for it and deserves to be the best.

Best men's coach for me is Klopp, I know bayern munchi and many others thinks that bayern coach deserves it although he deserves and most likely, but klopp built a team from the scratch to break a long standing jinx, Liverpool where exciting last season.
I will not choose Jürgen Klopp, Hans-Dieter Flick deserves it. Klopp really tried but Hans-Dieter Flick did not only try but helped Bayern to win the European Champions League, that alone deserved him over Klopp to be the best FIFA men’s coach.


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December 12, 2020, 12:00:10 PM
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my picks are with Lewandovski, just because I am tired of Ronaldo and Messi, Klopp, because it was a magnificent season for Liverpool in Premier league and Oblak, because it is a hell of a job to score against Atletico Madrid

I think that the two weren't on their best too in this season. For Ronaldo, the covid-19 also took something from him psychologically. Maybe this time the award might shift away from the usual. Robert Lewandowski won't be bad for a change but I'm still doubting if that will happen because he is facing two popular football players.
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December 12, 2020, 12:10:19 PM
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Robert Lewandovski stands head and shoulder high above cristiano ronaldo and Leonel messi last season
If not bias, Robert Lewandovski is the the best FIFA men’s player, he worked for it and deserves to be the best.

Best men's coach for me is Klopp, I know bayern munchi and many others thinks that bayern coach deserves it although he deserves and most likely, but klopp built a team from the scratch to break a long standing jinx, Liverpool where exciting last season.
I will not choose Jürgen Klopp, Hans-Dieter Flick deserves it. Klopp really tried but Hans-Dieter Flick did not only try but helped Bayern to win the European Champions League, that alone deserved him over Klopp to be the best FIFA men’s coach.



When it comes to award winning prizes there is nothing like emotions or biases; This is why the award is vote based; Lewandoski indeed has more stats than Messi and C.Ronaldo; but the impacts of their performance over the year as judged by different club captains, coaches, etc will be the determining factor as to who will win the Best player for 2020. C.Ronaldo single handedly took Juventus to a scudetto victory, while Lewandoski goals guided Bavern to a treble trophy, Messi on the other hand carried the whole Barcelona team. The vote wins
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When it comes to award winning prizes there is nothing like emotions or biases; This is why the award is vote based; Lewandoski indeed has more stats than Messi and C.Ronaldo; but the impacts of their performance over the year as judged by different club captains, coaches, etc will be the determining factor as to who will win the Best player for 2020. C.Ronaldo single handedly took Juventus to a scudetto victory, while Lewandoski goals guided Bavern to a treble trophy, Messi on the other hand carried the whole Barcelona team. The vote wins

Sometimes too I think there could be change from the normal. Messy and Ronaldo have taken turns to lift the trophy at different times, just maybe we could have another turns coming up, that will spice up the game. Like when the Italian midfielder / defender, anavaro had to life the trophy.
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December 13, 2020, 05:53:27 PM
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Fairplay cygan. If Lewie doesn't win it, then the who damned thing is rigged (well, I know it is, this is a damned popularity contest but seriously who could vote for Messi/Ronaldo again and have a conscience haha).

Credit to the women named. I've to admit some of the plays in women's football has improved considerably over past few years. Still far from men's quality (and don't shoot me for saying so) but it is a VAST improvement from 10 years ago. You see their nominations for Puskas?

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December 13, 2020, 06:10:35 PM
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It's good that the price is there. As many trainers say, it is actually not possible to appoint the best player. Each player has his own qualities, you cannot compare a defender with an attacker.
Last year Virgil van Dijk won this prize, right?
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Fairplay cygan. If Lewie doesn't win it, then the who damned thing is rigged (well, I know it is, this is a damned popularity contest but seriously who could vote for Messi/Ronaldo again and have a conscience haha).

Credit to the women named. I've to admit some of the plays in women's football has improved considerably over past few years. Still far from men's quality (and don't shoot me for saying so) but it is a VAST improvement from 10 years ago. You see their nominations for Puskas?
The woman Football did not start same time with men's football, and not as exciting as the men Football and may never be as exciting, but the strong messages from respect of Gender, preference of relationship partners, racism, equal rights to have same or close to same payment as men, this shows that the women's football can have a voice and they do have very exciting Footballers and matches.

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December 14, 2020, 02:56:32 PM
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The woman Football did not start same time with men's football, and not as exciting as the men Football and may never be as exciting, but the strong messages from respect of Gender, preference of relationship partners, racism, equal rights to have same or close to same payment as men, this shows that the women's football can have a voice and they do have very exciting Footballers and matches.

I don't want to get too much into the discussion, it's a minefield these days. I am all for equality and yes, I think the strong messages for equal respect as it should be for the sport regardless of who plays it is more important.

But yeah, some things you do gotta earn, and at the rate the women's game is progressing -- with the necessary support and resources required -- I don't see why they can't at least get the recognition they deserve, so kudos to all those who support the game and its development for all.

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December 14, 2020, 03:49:32 PM
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Almost FIFA best player candidate is not fair how come Messi and Ronaldo could be the candidate to complicated with Lewandoski are have to best best FIFA player, I think FIFA just wanna get much money by including Messi and Ronaldo because both player totally failed in champion league, just wanna get promoting if have Messi or Ronaldo and very disappointed without have any player from PSG because they are qualify to champion league final last season. If both Messi or Ronaldo become FIFA best player in this season so we can't trust any more with FIFA for choosing best player.

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December 15, 2020, 07:30:22 PM
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I believe Liverpool goalkeeper Alisson Becker should be chosen this year again but in any case ... it will not be easy to compete against Manuel Neuer who lifted the European Champions League cup.

As for the best player, I don't know if he will be chosen but I would like to see Robert Lewandowski be chosen this year.

But as mentioned above... there is a lot of money involved in these things, so don't expect "the best" to be chosen

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December 16, 2020, 04:45:31 AM
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But as mentioned above... there is a lot of money involved in these things, so don't expect "the best" to be chosen
What do you mean by a lot of money is involved? I am quite intrigued by that sentence. Is there bribery involved, or something of similar fashion?

Regarding the best not being chosen, I do think that there are other factors that the committee are looking for when choosing who they want to award the title, maybe we are missing something but that is the hard truth about it, people's choice does not necessarily means that they are a guaranteed winner.

My bet on player on men will be Ronaldo and Becker for Goalkeeper.

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December 16, 2020, 08:25:59 AM
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Robert Lewandovski stands head and shoulder high above cristiano ronaldo and Leonel messi last season
If not bias, Robert Lewandovski is the the best FIFA men’s player, he worked for it and deserves to be the best.

Best men's coach for me is Klopp, I know bayern munchi and many others thinks that bayern coach deserves it although he deserves and most likely, but klopp built a team from the scratch to break a long standing jinx, Liverpool where exciting last season.
I will not choose Jürgen Klopp, Hans-Dieter Flick deserves it. Klopp really tried but Hans-Dieter Flick did not only try but helped Bayern to win the European Champions League, that alone deserved him over Klopp to be the best FIFA men’s coach.



When it comes to award winning prizes there is nothing like emotions or biases; This is why the award is vote based; Lewandoski indeed has more stats than Messi and C.Ronaldo; but the impacts of their performance over the year as judged by different club captains, coaches, etc will be the determining factor as to who will win the Best player for 2020. C.Ronaldo single handedly took Juventus to a scudetto victory, while Lewandoski goals guided Bavern to a treble trophy, Messi on the other hand carried the whole Barcelona team. The vote wins


Thought you'd say "Merit-based" here:
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the award is vote based
I guess that's what they use in determining the winners. Wish votes are cast "with reasons", then voting participants could determine whether the reasons given by voters are accurate by upvoting/downvoting cast votes.

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December 16, 2020, 04:53:02 PM
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But as mentioned above... there is a lot of money involved in these things, so don't expect "the best" to be chosen
What do you mean by a lot of money is involved? I am quite intrigued by that sentence. Is there bribery involved, or something of similar fashion?

Regarding the best not being chosen, I do think that there are other factors that the committee are looking for when choosing who they want to award the title, maybe we are missing something but that is the hard truth about it, people's choice does not necessarily means that they are a guaranteed winner.

My bet on player on men will be Ronaldo and Becker for Goalkeeper.


Regarding the money being involved and the Corruption getting the best of this I do think that even if something like this is going to be there , the approach won't be that high , it's nothing like all of them will be Paid for in advance.

Let me mention a small source regarding this matter :
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The 2015 arrests centre on the alleged use of bribery, fraud and money laundering to corrupt the issuing of media and marketing rights for FIFA games in the Americas, estimated at $150 million, including at least $110 million in bribes related to the Copa América Centenario to be hosted in 2016 in the United States.
taken from google

Even if you type the corruption in FIFA , you will get a lot of results.

But still I do think that if I had to bet on someone I would definitely choose Messi over Ronaldo any time. You can see his stats and his gameplay , he for sure deserves it !! I hope 🤞 even though the rumors about bribe and corruption might be true but truly deserving players get the awards.

Lewandovski is a good defense player but I don't think if we compare the overall stats he will rise too high ..

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December 16, 2020, 05:51:38 PM
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What do you mean by a lot of money is involved? I am quite intrigued by that sentence. Is there bribery involved, or something of similar fashion?

Nothing concrete, but in the midst of the countless cases of corruption at FIFA, it isn't to be doubted that the choice of the best also has something "dirty".
Even if the prize is only symbolic, choosing a player as "best in the world" significantly increases the player's value, no matter how good he is really when.
The teams that own these players are the biggest beneficiaries of these Awards and are able to sell him, for example, for a much greater amount than it actually is worth.

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according to the german newspaper bild.de, fifa president Gianni Infantino will be in munich today to present Robert Lewandowski and Manuel Neuer with the trophies for the best world player and the best world goalkeeper 2020 Smiley

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December 17, 2020, 07:54:12 PM
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its now official:



Robert Lewandowski has won the following in 2020:

🏆 Bundesliga
🏆 DFB-Pokal
🏆 Champions League
🏆 UEFA Super Cup
🏆 DFL-Supercup
🏆 UEFA Men's Forward of the Year
🏆 UEFA Men's Player of the Year
🏆 FIFA The Best Men's Player
https://twitter.com/Squawka/status/1339656303770279943

the another winners are:

The Best FIFA Men’s Goalkeeper - Manuel Neuer
The Best FIFA Men’s Coach Award - Jürgen Klopp

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