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December 11, 2020, 07:19:48 PM
Last edit: September 15, 2023, 06:55:19 AM by cygan
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since i have not found a similar thread via the search function, i have now decided to open this thread and then continue this every year. Smiley
this should give us more information about the annual elections for the best footballers, goalkeepers, coaches,...

this year is on the 17th december so far and there are in each category now the 3 best actors to vote for...

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The Best FIFA Women’s Player:
Lucy Bronze (England / Olympique Lyonnais / Manchester City WFC)
Pernille Harder (Denmark / VfL Wolfsburg / Chelsea FC Women)
Wendie Renard (France / Olympique Lyonnais)

The Best FIFA Men’s Player:
Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal / Juventus FC)
Robert Lewandowski (Poland / FC Bayern München)
Lionel Messi (Argentina / FC Barcelona)

The Best FIFA Women’s Goalkeeper:
Sarah Bouhaddi (France / Olympique Lyonnais)
Christiane Endler (Chile / Paris Saint-Germain)
Alyssa Naeher (USA / Chicago Red Stars)

The Best FIFA Men’s Goalkeeper:
Alisson Becker (Brazil / Liverpool FC)
Manuel Neuer (Germany / FC Bayern München)
Jan Oblak (Slovenia / Atlético de Madrid)

The Best FIFA Women’s Coach:
Emma Hayes (England / Chelsea FC Women)
Jean-Luc Vasseur (France / Olympique Lyonnais)
Sarina Wiegman (Netherlands / Dutch national team)

The Best FIFA Men’s Coach:
Marcelo Bielsa (Argentina / Leeds United FC)
Hans-Dieter Flick (Germany / FC Bayern München)
Jürgen Klopp (Germany / Liverpool FC)
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/lewandowski-nominated-for-world-player-of-the-year-flick-amp-neuer-also-hopeful/view/news/376002
https://www.fifa.com/the-best-fifa-football-awards/news/finalists-announced-for-the-best-fifa-football-awardstm-2020

my personal favorites are all bayern munich actors - R. Lewandowski, Manuel Neuer and H. Flick

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December 11, 2020, 07:34:25 PM
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would find it hard to believe that Marcelo Bielsa is nominated for the award, what is his best achievement this year, that have put him with Klopp and Flick
there is a tone of difference between them, and I do not think that Bielsa is never near to be nominated, although like to see Leeds in Premier league

my picks are with Lewandovski, just because I am tired of Ronaldo and Messi, Klopp, because it was a magnificent season for Liverpool in Premier league and Oblak, because it is a hell of a job to score against Atletico Madrid
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December 11, 2020, 08:27:33 PM
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would find it hard to believe that Marcelo Bielsa is nominated for the award, what is his best achievement this year, that have put him with Klopp and Flick
there is a tone of difference between them, and I do not think that Bielsa is never near to be nominated, although like to see Leeds in Premier league

my picks are with Lewandovski, just because I am tired of Ronaldo and Messi, Klopp, because it was a magnificent season for Liverpool in Premier league and Oblak, because it is a hell of a job to score against Atletico Madrid

maybe because he was promoted to the premier league again after 16 years with leeds united. i can't explain it any other way... Roll Eyes

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December 11, 2020, 08:43:23 PM
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Robert Lewandovski stands head and shoulder high above cristiano ronaldo and Leonel messi last season, picking the best men's Football this year is so easy, Lewandovski with his bayern munchi team-mate where in a perfect sync,
Best men's coach for me is Klopp, I know bayern munchi and many others thinks that bayern coach deserves it although he deserves and most likely, but klopp built a team from the scratch to break a long standing jinx, Liverpool where exciting last season.

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December 12, 2020, 11:48:14 AM
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Robert Lewandovski stands head and shoulder high above cristiano ronaldo and Leonel messi last season
If not bias, Robert Lewandovski is the the best FIFA men’s player, he worked for it and deserves to be the best.

Best men's coach for me is Klopp, I know bayern munchi and many others thinks that bayern coach deserves it although he deserves and most likely, but klopp built a team from the scratch to break a long standing jinx, Liverpool where exciting last season.
I will not choose Jürgen Klopp, Hans-Dieter Flick deserves it. Klopp really tried but Hans-Dieter Flick did not only try but helped Bayern to win the European Champions League, that alone deserved him over Klopp to be the best FIFA men’s coach.


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December 12, 2020, 12:00:10 PM
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my picks are with Lewandovski, just because I am tired of Ronaldo and Messi, Klopp, because it was a magnificent season for Liverpool in Premier league and Oblak, because it is a hell of a job to score against Atletico Madrid

I think that the two weren't on their best too in this season. For Ronaldo, the covid-19 also took something from him psychologically. Maybe this time the award might shift away from the usual. Robert Lewandowski won't be bad for a change but I'm still doubting if that will happen because he is facing two popular football players.
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December 12, 2020, 12:10:19 PM
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Robert Lewandovski stands head and shoulder high above cristiano ronaldo and Leonel messi last season
If not bias, Robert Lewandovski is the the best FIFA men’s player, he worked for it and deserves to be the best.

Best men's coach for me is Klopp, I know bayern munchi and many others thinks that bayern coach deserves it although he deserves and most likely, but klopp built a team from the scratch to break a long standing jinx, Liverpool where exciting last season.
I will not choose Jürgen Klopp, Hans-Dieter Flick deserves it. Klopp really tried but Hans-Dieter Flick did not only try but helped Bayern to win the European Champions League, that alone deserved him over Klopp to be the best FIFA men’s coach.



When it comes to award winning prizes there is nothing like emotions or biases; This is why the award is vote based; Lewandoski indeed has more stats than Messi and C.Ronaldo; but the impacts of their performance over the year as judged by different club captains, coaches, etc will be the determining factor as to who will win the Best player for 2020. C.Ronaldo single handedly took Juventus to a scudetto victory, while Lewandoski goals guided Bavern to a treble trophy, Messi on the other hand carried the whole Barcelona team. The vote wins
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When it comes to award winning prizes there is nothing like emotions or biases; This is why the award is vote based; Lewandoski indeed has more stats than Messi and C.Ronaldo; but the impacts of their performance over the year as judged by different club captains, coaches, etc will be the determining factor as to who will win the Best player for 2020. C.Ronaldo single handedly took Juventus to a scudetto victory, while Lewandoski goals guided Bavern to a treble trophy, Messi on the other hand carried the whole Barcelona team. The vote wins

Sometimes too I think there could be change from the normal. Messy and Ronaldo have taken turns to lift the trophy at different times, just maybe we could have another turns coming up, that will spice up the game. Like when the Italian midfielder / defender, anavaro had to life the trophy.
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December 13, 2020, 05:53:27 PM
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Fairplay cygan. If Lewie doesn't win it, then the who damned thing is rigged (well, I know it is, this is a damned popularity contest but seriously who could vote for Messi/Ronaldo again and have a conscience haha).

Credit to the women named. I've to admit some of the plays in women's football has improved considerably over past few years. Still far from men's quality (and don't shoot me for saying so) but it is a VAST improvement from 10 years ago. You see their nominations for Puskas?

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December 13, 2020, 06:10:35 PM
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It's good that the price is there. As many trainers say, it is actually not possible to appoint the best player. Each player has his own qualities, you cannot compare a defender with an attacker.
Last year Virgil van Dijk won this prize, right?
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Fairplay cygan. If Lewie doesn't win it, then the who damned thing is rigged (well, I know it is, this is a damned popularity contest but seriously who could vote for Messi/Ronaldo again and have a conscience haha).

Credit to the women named. I've to admit some of the plays in women's football has improved considerably over past few years. Still far from men's quality (and don't shoot me for saying so) but it is a VAST improvement from 10 years ago. You see their nominations for Puskas?
The woman Football did not start same time with men's football, and not as exciting as the men Football and may never be as exciting, but the strong messages from respect of Gender, preference of relationship partners, racism, equal rights to have same or close to same payment as men, this shows that the women's football can have a voice and they do have very exciting Footballers and matches.

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December 14, 2020, 02:56:32 PM
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The woman Football did not start same time with men's football, and not as exciting as the men Football and may never be as exciting, but the strong messages from respect of Gender, preference of relationship partners, racism, equal rights to have same or close to same payment as men, this shows that the women's football can have a voice and they do have very exciting Footballers and matches.

I don't want to get too much into the discussion, it's a minefield these days. I am all for equality and yes, I think the strong messages for equal respect as it should be for the sport regardless of who plays it is more important.

But yeah, some things you do gotta earn, and at the rate the women's game is progressing -- with the necessary support and resources required -- I don't see why they can't at least get the recognition they deserve, so kudos to all those who support the game and its development for all.

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December 14, 2020, 03:49:32 PM
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Almost FIFA best player candidate is not fair how come Messi and Ronaldo could be the candidate to complicated with Lewandoski are have to best best FIFA player, I think FIFA just wanna get much money by including Messi and Ronaldo because both player totally failed in champion league, just wanna get promoting if have Messi or Ronaldo and very disappointed without have any player from PSG because they are qualify to champion league final last season. If both Messi or Ronaldo become FIFA best player in this season so we can't trust any more with FIFA for choosing best player.

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December 15, 2020, 07:30:22 PM
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I believe Liverpool goalkeeper Alisson Becker should be chosen this year again but in any case ... it will not be easy to compete against Manuel Neuer who lifted the European Champions League cup.

As for the best player, I don't know if he will be chosen but I would like to see Robert Lewandowski be chosen this year.

But as mentioned above... there is a lot of money involved in these things, so don't expect "the best" to be chosen

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December 16, 2020, 04:45:31 AM
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But as mentioned above... there is a lot of money involved in these things, so don't expect "the best" to be chosen
What do you mean by a lot of money is involved? I am quite intrigued by that sentence. Is there bribery involved, or something of similar fashion?

Regarding the best not being chosen, I do think that there are other factors that the committee are looking for when choosing who they want to award the title, maybe we are missing something but that is the hard truth about it, people's choice does not necessarily means that they are a guaranteed winner.

My bet on player on men will be Ronaldo and Becker for Goalkeeper.

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December 16, 2020, 08:25:59 AM
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Robert Lewandovski stands head and shoulder high above cristiano ronaldo and Leonel messi last season
If not bias, Robert Lewandovski is the the best FIFA men’s player, he worked for it and deserves to be the best.

Best men's coach for me is Klopp, I know bayern munchi and many others thinks that bayern coach deserves it although he deserves and most likely, but klopp built a team from the scratch to break a long standing jinx, Liverpool where exciting last season.
I will not choose Jürgen Klopp, Hans-Dieter Flick deserves it. Klopp really tried but Hans-Dieter Flick did not only try but helped Bayern to win the European Champions League, that alone deserved him over Klopp to be the best FIFA men’s coach.



When it comes to award winning prizes there is nothing like emotions or biases; This is why the award is vote based; Lewandoski indeed has more stats than Messi and C.Ronaldo; but the impacts of their performance over the year as judged by different club captains, coaches, etc will be the determining factor as to who will win the Best player for 2020. C.Ronaldo single handedly took Juventus to a scudetto victory, while Lewandoski goals guided Bavern to a treble trophy, Messi on the other hand carried the whole Barcelona team. The vote wins


Thought you'd say "Merit-based" here:
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the award is vote based
I guess that's what they use in determining the winners. Wish votes are cast "with reasons", then voting participants could determine whether the reasons given by voters are accurate by upvoting/downvoting cast votes.

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December 16, 2020, 04:53:02 PM
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But as mentioned above... there is a lot of money involved in these things, so don't expect "the best" to be chosen
What do you mean by a lot of money is involved? I am quite intrigued by that sentence. Is there bribery involved, or something of similar fashion?

Regarding the best not being chosen, I do think that there are other factors that the committee are looking for when choosing who they want to award the title, maybe we are missing something but that is the hard truth about it, people's choice does not necessarily means that they are a guaranteed winner.

My bet on player on men will be Ronaldo and Becker for Goalkeeper.


Regarding the money being involved and the Corruption getting the best of this I do think that even if something like this is going to be there , the approach won't be that high , it's nothing like all of them will be Paid for in advance.

Let me mention a small source regarding this matter :
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The 2015 arrests centre on the alleged use of bribery, fraud and money laundering to corrupt the issuing of media and marketing rights for FIFA games in the Americas, estimated at $150 million, including at least $110 million in bribes related to the Copa América Centenario to be hosted in 2016 in the United States.
taken from google

Even if you type the corruption in FIFA , you will get a lot of results.

But still I do think that if I had to bet on someone I would definitely choose Messi over Ronaldo any time. You can see his stats and his gameplay , he for sure deserves it !! I hope 🤞 even though the rumors about bribe and corruption might be true but truly deserving players get the awards.

Lewandovski is a good defense player but I don't think if we compare the overall stats he will rise too high ..

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December 16, 2020, 05:51:38 PM
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What do you mean by a lot of money is involved? I am quite intrigued by that sentence. Is there bribery involved, or something of similar fashion?

Nothing concrete, but in the midst of the countless cases of corruption at FIFA, it isn't to be doubted that the choice of the best also has something "dirty".
Even if the prize is only symbolic, choosing a player as "best in the world" significantly increases the player's value, no matter how good he is really when.
The teams that own these players are the biggest beneficiaries of these Awards and are able to sell him, for example, for a much greater amount than it actually is worth.

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according to the german newspaper bild.de, fifa president Gianni Infantino will be in munich today to present Robert Lewandowski and Manuel Neuer with the trophies for the best world player and the best world goalkeeper 2020 Smiley

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December 17, 2020, 07:54:12 PM
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its now official:



Robert Lewandowski has won the following in 2020:

🏆 Bundesliga
🏆 DFB-Pokal
🏆 Champions League
🏆 UEFA Super Cup
🏆 DFL-Supercup
🏆 UEFA Men's Forward of the Year
🏆 UEFA Men's Player of the Year
🏆 FIFA The Best Men's Player
https://twitter.com/Squawka/status/1339656303770279943

the another winners are:

The Best FIFA Men’s Goalkeeper - Manuel Neuer
The Best FIFA Men’s Coach Award - Jürgen Klopp

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December 17, 2020, 08:41:10 PM
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There was no doubts that Lewandowski was best player this season. He scored most goals and won every possible trophy this year. It's only unfair that this year there was no Golden Ball award when Lewandowski maybe had his only chance in career to win it. I don't know why it wasn't possible to held awards online like FIFA did.
And like always, there is some awards which looks a bit weird. Neuer is best goalkeeper, while Alison is in XI of the year.
Klopp won award because of win of EPL, but I we shouldn't understimate achievements of Hans Dieter Flick. He took over team when they struggled a lot and had bad atmosphere in locker room. And he turned Bayern into most powerful team in world now and won every possible trophy without leaving even minimal chances for others.

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There was no doubts that Lewandowski was best player this season. He scored most goals and won every possible trophy this year. It's only unfair that this year there was no Golden Ball award when Lewandowski maybe had his only chance in career to win it. I don't know why it wasn't possible to held awards online like FIFA did.
And like always, there is some awards which looks a bit weird. Neuer is best goalkeeper, while Alison is in XI of the year.
Klopp won award because of win of EPL, but I we shouldn't understimate achievements of Hans Dieter Flick. He took over team when they struggled a lot and had bad atmosphere in locker room. And he turned Bayern into most powerful team in world now and won every possible trophy without leaving even minimal chances for others.

I personally think Klopp's achievement has been several seasons long. Personally, I would like to see different categories such as a 3 year reward, and possibly a 5. Since, Klopp has definitely built up the Liverpool squad over time, and they were probably one of the favorites leading up to their title win. Although, I do believe Klopp is more deserving than Flick. As suggested, Liverpool were ONE of the favorites, because of their previous seasons, but Flick, and Bayern were favorites out of the league, and while they may have won everything put in front of them, their league is generally a little less strong than the premier league, at least in my opinion.

Bayern may have struggled, especially on the morale front,  but they certainly had a starting 11 probably better than most teams in the world, very much like Liverpool honestly. However, the difference is, Klopp brought in a lot of those players, or transformed them over a few seasons. While Flick, took over a team he largely inherited, and they were all world beaters. Bayern were never going to slump for that long. Plus, this season I've been impressed with Klopp even more so, ravaged by injuries, yet still sitting at the top of the league, and that's with the added audacity of having to use teenagers, that have really impressed when they've played. Obviously, Trent, Curtis were fairly established, but Rhys Williams, and even Nathan Phillips have really impressed so far.
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the best player in the world has a bed that is too small - the german championship trophy (meisterschale) is clearly missing from the picture Grin

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January 10, 2021, 08:31:52 AM
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Robert Lewandowski received/won another award last night Cool
of course he is not only the best player in the world, but since yesterday also the sportsman of the year in his home country poland.
https://gol24.pl/robert-lewandowski-sportowcem-roku-2020-nasz-kapitan-odebral-nagrode-na-gali-mistrzow-sportu/ar/c2-15382386

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Robert Lewandowski has now also been named to the 'team of the year', as have 4 (with Thiago as ex. bayern munich player) other bayern teammates of his.

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today it's that time again and the fifa 'the best' football awards will be presented.
all awards are based on the period from october 8, 2020 to august 7, 2021 (or august 6 for the women's soccer awards), rather than performance in the calendar year 2021.

the candidates for the respective awards are:

fifa world player (men) 2021
Robert Lewandowski (bayern munich)
Lionel Messi (fc barcelona /paris saint-germain)
Mohamed Salah (fc liverpool)
titleholder: Robert Lewandowski

fifa world player (women) 2021
Jennifer Hermoso (fc barcelona)
Sam Kerr (fc chelsea)
Alexia Putellas (fc barcelona)
titleholder: Lucy Bronze

fifa world coach men 2021
Pep Guardiola (manchester city)
Roberto Mancini (italian national team)
Thomas Tuchel (fc chelsea)
titleholder: Jürgen Klopp

fifa world coach women 2021
Lluis Cortes (fc barcelona)
Emma Hayes (fc chelsea)
Sarina Wiegman (dutch/english women's national team)
titleholder: Sarina Wiegman

fifa world goalkeeper men 2021
Gianluigi Donnarumma (ac milan/paris saint-germain)
Edouard Mendy (fc chelsea)
Manuel Neuer (bayern munich)
titleholder: Manuel Neuer

fifa world goalkeeper women 2021
Ann-Katrin Berger (fc chelsea)
Christiane Endler (paris saint-germain/olympique lyon)
Stephanie Lynn Marie Labbé (fc rosengard/paris saint-germain)
titleholder: Sarah Bouhaddi

in addition, the fifa men's and women's world selections will be announced and the fifa fairplay award will be presented.
https://www.fifa.com/the-best-fifa-football-awards

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January 17, 2022, 06:11:52 PM
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today it's that time again and the fifa 'the best' football awards will be presented.
all awards are based on the period from october 8, 2020 to august 7, 2021 (or august 6 for the women's soccer awards), rather than performance in the calendar year 2021.

the candidates for the respective awards are:

fifa world player (men) 2021
Robert Lewandowski (bayern munich)
Lionel Messi (fc barcelona /paris saint-germain)
Mohamed Salah (fc liverpool)
titleholder: Robert Lewandowski

fifa world player (women) 2021
Jennifer Hermoso (fc barcelona)
Sam Kerr (fc chelsea)
Alexia Putellas (fc barcelona)
titleholder: Lucy Bronze

fifa world coach men 2021
Pep Guardiola (manchester city)
Roberto Mancini (italian national team)
Thomas Tuchel (fc chelsea)
titleholder: Jürgen Klopp

fifa world coach women 2021
Lluis Cortes (fc barcelona)
Emma Hayes (fc chelsea)
Sarina Wiegman (dutch/english women's national team)
titleholder: Sarina Wiegman

fifa world goalkeeper men 2021
Gianluigi Donnarumma (ac milan/paris saint-germain)
Edouard Mendy (fc chelsea)
Manuel Neuer (bayern munich)
titleholder: Manuel Neuer

fifa world goalkeeper women 2021
Ann-Katrin Berger (fc chelsea)
Christiane Endler (paris saint-germain/olympique lyon)
Stephanie Lynn Marie Labbé (fc rosengard/paris saint-germain)
titleholder: Sarah Bouhaddi

in addition, the fifa men's and women's world selections will be announced and the fifa fairplay award will be presented.
https://www.fifa.com/the-best-fifa-football-awards
The event of The Best FIFA Football Awards 2021 begins at 19.00 Swiss time, last year Lewandowski won the individual award after defeating Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi, and now he also has to compete with Lionel Messi and Salah, although Messi managed to deliver Argentina won the Copa America and won the Ballon D'or award this year, but it looks like a strong competition for the award will only occur between Salah and Lewandowski at this time, because I think and we all know how Lewandowski and Salah are doing in helping their club this season and even now they are both listed as temporary top goalscorers in the English league and bundesliga football competitions in season 2021/22, besides I am waiting for which player to get the award, I am also quite curious who the coach deserves to be the best coach of the year, besides that of course we can me see the goal of the year (FIFA Puskas Award) which will be announced later.
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January 18, 2022, 04:03:18 PM
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Robert Lewandowski defended his title as world footballer and collected his next trophy Cool
other awards went to:
Alexia Putellas (fc barcelona) - fifa world player (women) 2021
Thomas Tuchel (fc chelsea) - fifa world coach men 2021
Emma Hayes (fc chelsea) - fifa world coach women 2021
Edouard Mendy (fc chelsea) - fifa world goalkeeper men 2021
Christiane Endler (psg/o. lyon) - fifa world goalkeeper women 2021

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January 18, 2022, 05:54:13 PM
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This year's Best FIFA Men's Player award goes to Robert Lewandowski. He is absolutely deserving, as the statistics clearly demonstrate. It has been Ronaldo and Messi that have been in the lead for so long, even in seasons when they were not better than Lewandowski. A lot of talented and gifted players exist all around the world, and some are truly remarkable. Congratulations to Robert Lewandowski on winning the FIFA Men's Player of the Year award for 2021. I am curious since this award is very appropriate for Robert Lewandowski, well deserved, and congratulations to the best player in the world.

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January 18, 2022, 06:52:02 PM
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This year's Best FIFA Men's Player award goes to Robert Lewandowski. He is absolutely deserving, as the statistics clearly demonstrate. It has been Ronaldo and Messi that have been in the lead for so long, even in seasons when they were not better than Lewandowski. A lot of talented and gifted players exist all around the world, and some are truly remarkable. Congratulations to Robert Lewandowski on winning the FIFA Men's Player of the Year award for 2021. I am curious since this award is very appropriate for Robert Lewandowski, well deserved, and congratulations to the best player in the world.
Congrats to Lewandowski who won the award as the best player of the year, this is Lewandowski's second award as the best player and he managed to match Ronaldinho and also ronaldo who have won the award for best player twice, I also think if it is very appropriate for Lewandowski to won the award this year, considering his fairly consistent performances in scoring goals and also helping Bayern Munich in both the league and European competitions.

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February 28, 2023, 04:49:56 PM
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argentina's world champion Lionel Messi entered the fifa gala as the absolute favorite for the title of 'best men player' and lived up to his billing (52 points). his psg attacking teammate Kylian Mbappé (44 points) and real madrid goal-scorer Karim Benzema (34 points) finished behind the 35-yo, who claimed this personal trophy for the seventh time.
below you can see the other points awarded. last year's winner Robert Lewandowski did not end up in the top10...



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February 28, 2023, 05:33:25 PM
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argentina's world champion Lionel Messi entered the fifa gala as the absolute favorite for the title of 'best men player' and lived up to his billing (52 points). his psg attacking teammate Kylian Mbappé (44 points) and real madrid goal-scorer Karim Benzema (34 points) finished behind the 35-yo, who claimed this personal trophy for the seventh time.
below you can see the other points awarded. last year's winner Robert Lewandowski did not end up in the top10...




Messi has won another award that many people will consider controversial. This award makes it his seventh FIFA men's player award although I feel that Benzema or even Mbappe who also had a great world cup were more deserving of this award but because Messi is on the list, they just had to give it to him to add more honours to his career. These awards look now more like people voting who they like than who really performed. The next award has to be purely on performance because this season we have really seen some young players in hot form that deserve awards and recognition.

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February 28, 2023, 05:48:57 PM
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argentina's world champion Lionel Messi entered the fifa gala as the absolute favorite for the title of 'best men player' and lived up to his billing (52 points). his psg attacking teammate Kylian Mbappé (44 points) and real madrid goal-scorer Karim Benzema (34 points) finished behind the 35-yo, who claimed this personal trophy for the seventh time.
below you can see the other points awarded. last year's winner Robert Lewandowski did not end up in the top10...




Messi has won another award that many people will consider controversial. This award makes it his seventh FIFA men's player award although I feel that Benzema or even Mbappe who also had a great world cup were more deserving of this award but because Messi is on the list, they just had to give it to him to add more honours to his career. These awards look now more like people voting who they like than who really performed. The next award has to be purely on performance because this season we have really seen some young players in hot form that deserve awards and recognition.
Yea you are right,because Messi performed brilliantly in the world cup and this had made so many people happy for his success because the world cup is the greatest achievement, he has ever gotten. Voting base on choice shouldn't be what is used to qualify the winner.

Messi deserves it this time because it f you check his achievement this year was superb compared to Mbappe and Benzema. I believe he won't be the winner next year because there are so many young players that are becoming Messi's rival. Old age will also affect his performance in no time.

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February 28, 2023, 06:14:52 PM
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argentina's world champion Lionel Messi entered the fifa gala as the absolute favorite for the title of 'best men player' and lived up to his billing (52 points). his psg attacking teammate Kylian Mbappé (44 points) and real madrid goal-scorer Karim Benzema (34 points) finished behind the 35-yo, who claimed this personal trophy for the seventh time.
below you can see the other points awarded. last year's winner Robert Lewandowski did not end up in the top10...




Messi has won another award that many people will consider controversial. This award makes it his seventh FIFA men's player award although I feel that Benzema or even Mbappe who also had a great world cup were more deserving of this award but because Messi is on the list, they just had to give it to him to add more honours to his career. These awards look now more like people voting who they like than who really performed. The next award has to be purely on performance because this season we have really seen some young players in hot form that deserve awards and recognition.
Yea you are right,because Messi performed brilliantly in the world cup and this had made so many people happy for his success because the world cup is the greatest achievement, he has ever gotten. Voting base on choice shouldn't be what is used to qualify the winner.

Messi deserves it this time because it f you check his achievement this year was superb compared to Mbappe and Benzema. I believe he won't be the winner next year because there are so many young players that are becoming Messi's rival. Old age will also affect his performance in no time.

I believe next year the list will change quite a bit. I just read again how the voting works because sometimes I thought that there could also corruption be involved to a certain degree. Now I do think that Mbappe as an individual player would have deserved it and big tournaments play a role. But when you think about it there is also some unfairness to that because playing for France or Argentina is much different than playing for Norway like Haaland. Haaland's statistics were also outstanding, but in the end it is also quite a subjective voting, which in the case of the FIFA reward makes it quite fair I think because so many interest groups are involved:

"The award differs from the Ballon d’Or in letting fans vote for their favorite player and coach. In this case, fans, coaches of all the national teams, captains of those teams, and 300 journalists worldwide vote for who is the best. Each of the four gets 25% of the selection, making it more open to interpretation"

Now you could still argue that fans' votings are also a question of your social media presence and the time you have had to build it up.
Messi has 435 million followers on Instagram and Mbappe has a little less than 100 million. I think it is quite obvious who scored the most points there.

Mbappe's time will also come very soon. The race is probably soon between him and Haaland. Although Mbappe's presence in the champions league could be over in just a couple of days for the first half of the year.

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March 01, 2023, 07:54:48 AM
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I believe next year the list will change quite a bit. I just read again how the voting works because sometimes I thought that there could also corruption be involved to a certain degree. Now I do think that Mbappe as an individual player would have deserved it and big tournaments play a role. But when you think about it there is also some unfairness to that because playing for France or Argentina is much different than playing for Norway like Haaland. Haaland's statistics were also outstanding, but in the end it is also quite a subjective voting, which in the case of the FIFA reward makes it quite fair I think because so many interest groups are involved:

"The award differs from the Ballon d’Or in letting fans vote for their favorite player and coach. In this case, fans, coaches of all the national teams, captains of those teams, and 300 journalists worldwide vote for who is the best. Each of the four gets 25% of the selection, making it more open to interpretation"

Now you could still argue that fans' votings are also a question of your social media presence and the time you have had to build it up.
Messi has 435 million followers on Instagram and Mbappe has a little less than 100 million. I think it is quite obvious who scored the most points there.

Mbappe's time will also come very soon. The race is probably soon between him and Haaland. Although Mbappe's presence in the champions league could be over in just a couple of days for the first half of the year.

When fans are voting for some award, you can bet that their votes will be influenced by media presence of some players. That's just the way us humans are. When we see a lot of media articles about Messi being the greatest player of all time, most of us will automatically accept it and vote for him. I'm sure that if Modrić was from nation other than Croatia, he would have won much more awards in his career than he did. The same goes for Haaland.

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March 01, 2023, 02:05:30 PM
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I believe next year the list will change quite a bit. I just read again how the voting works because sometimes I thought that there could also corruption be involved to a certain degree. Now I do think that Mbappe as an individual player would have deserved it and big tournaments play a role. But when you think about it there is also some unfairness to that because playing for France or Argentina is much different than playing for Norway like Haaland. Haaland's statistics were also outstanding, but in the end it is also quite a subjective voting, which in the case of the FIFA reward makes it quite fair I think because so many interest groups are involved:

"The award differs from the Ballon d’Or in letting fans vote for their favorite player and coach. In this case, fans, coaches of all the national teams, captains of those teams, and 300 journalists worldwide vote for who is the best. Each of the four gets 25% of the selection, making it more open to interpretation"

Now you could still argue that fans' votings are also a question of your social media presence and the time you have had to build it up.
Messi has 435 million followers on Instagram and Mbappe has a little less than 100 million. I think it is quite obvious who scored the most points there.

Mbappe's time will also come very soon. The race is probably soon between him and Haaland. Although Mbappe's presence in the champions league could be over in just a couple of days for the first half of the year.

When fans are voting for some award, you can bet that their votes will be influenced by media presence of some players. That's just the way us humans are. When we see a lot of media articles about Messi being the greatest player of all time, most of us will automatically accept it and vote for him. I'm sure that if Modrić was from nation other than Croatia, he would have won much more awards in his career than he did. The same goes for Haaland.

Yes, I mean to be fair the followings these guys like Messi and Ronaldo have are the consequences of their achievements. Hadn't they been these godlike played, they wouldn't have had those followings in the first place. But at some point down the road these followings snowball into further success when it comes to votings. Hardcore Messi fans will vote for Messi even when they know he hasn't quite made the cut. But I still think that distributing the voting weight among different groups of interest is still the best way to go about those prices. We all know what can happen if you have a tiny jury of maybe 20 people or so. The talks would be about bribery or even political influence all day long. Imagine you are French and part of the jury, you could probably not show up in public anymore when you voted for Messi instead of Mbappe.

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March 01, 2023, 02:10:33 PM
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It was only normal for Messi to win it this year,he was in competition with Mbappe and Benzema and they did play against each other in the final of the World Cup where Messi and Argentina were the better team and they were world Champions.Also France did not convince as much as Argentina did during the World Cup,well except the opening game against Saudi Arabia and then they were on fire from a perfect game to another and this of course had its own weight in this year FIFA awards,so I think the choice is correct for this year.

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March 01, 2023, 02:14:13 PM
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Yes, I mean to be fair the followings these guys like Messi and Ronaldo have are the consequences of their achievements. Hadn't they been these godlike played, they wouldn't have had those followings in the first place. But at some point down the road these followings snowball into further success when it comes to votings. Hardcore Messi fans will vote for Messi even when they know he hasn't quite made the cut. But I still think that distributing the voting weight among different groups of interest is still the best way to go about those prices. We all know what can happen if you have a tiny jury of maybe 20 people or so. The talks would be about bribery or even political influence all day long. Imagine you are French and part of the jury, you could probably not show up in public anymore when you voted for Messi instead of Mbappe.

Of course. I'm not saying that the voting system is wrong. It's much better to have more people voting than a 10 or 20 people that can be influenced by money or otherwise. I was just saying that fan voting can't be consider serious because fans are influenced by their emotions. I'm sure that 99% of Argentinian fans voted for Messi just because he is their. I don't actually know how and which fans were selected to vote, but I'm sure that if I was voting, I would vote for Modrić because he is from Croatia.

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Of course. I'm not saying that the voting system is wrong. It's much better to have more people voting than a 10 or 20 people that can be influenced by money or otherwise. I was just saying that fan voting can't be consider serious because fans are influenced by their emotions. I'm sure that 99% of Argentinian fans voted for Messi just because he is their. I don't actually know how and which fans were selected to vote, but I'm sure that if I was voting, I would vote for Modrić because he is from Croatia.
It's probably impossible to make perfect voting system simply because people always will be biased. And it doesn't matter who are they - players, managers, journalists or just regular fans. And when it we have people from more than 200 asociations voting, it's popularity and personal preferences contest. And when we have players or managers from countries like Gibraltar, Maldives or Guam (with all respect) who aren't professionals and football is just hobby for them, probably they're not much different from fans like your or me.
I think now it's impossible that defender would win this award, like Fabio Cannavaro did in 2006.

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I'm sure that if Modrić was from nation other than Croatia,  he would have won much more awards in his career than he did.
Modric has been exceptional, but probably his midfield position does not favour him like it would with the strikers. These days, it's just mostly about Goals and assists and the media goes Crazy

I miss the old days when goalkeepers and defenders would also be close contenders

The same goes for Haaland.
Haaland is still young, he's destined for greatness regardless of his country. He just has to keep breaking records.

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March 02, 2023, 12:15:44 AM
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Argentina has a lot to celebrate....

As if it wasn't enough to have won the most important championship in football, they are still protagonists of an unprecedented dominance in the main prizes of "The Best".
This was the first time that a country was chosen for having the best player in the world, the best coach and the best goalkeeper.

The World Cup victory certainly helped to achieve this result in "The best". Messi and Martínez had already been chosen as the best player and the best goalkeeper of the tournament. Only that there was no individual trophy, but... just because there wasn't a specific award for coaches in the world cup.

Congratulations Argentina!

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It's probably impossible to make perfect voting system simply because people always will be biased. And it doesn't matter who are they - players, managers, journalists or just regular fans. And when it we have people from more than 200 asociations voting, it's popularity and personal preferences contest. And when we have players or managers from countries like Gibraltar, Maldives or Guam (with all respect) who aren't professionals and football is just hobby for them, probably they're not much different from fans like your or me.
I think now it's impossible that defender would win this award, like Fabio Cannavaro did in 2006.

Yeah, it's not possible to have a perfect voting system. If points are calculated purely based on computer generated points, then some subjective picture about a player is missing. On the other hand, if you based points purely on a human judgement, those points tend to be too biased.

I don't think that it's impossible for a defender to win this award. It's just much harder for a defender than for a striker to win it. A defender must really be a real star player to stand out from the attackers and win the prize.

Modric has been exceptional, but probably his midfield position does not favour him like it would with the strikers. These days, it's just mostly about Goals and assists and the media goes Crazy

I miss the old days when goalkeepers and defenders would also be close contenders

Yeah, if Modrić was a striker, I'm sure he would have won much more awards than he did in his career. Goals and assists makes a team win the game, but you can't win the game without good defenders and midfielders.

The same goes for Haaland.
Haaland is still young, he's destined for greatness regardless of his country. He just has to keep breaking records.

I didn't say that he won't win any prize. I just stated that he would won much more awards if he was from France or England.

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I thought Emi Martinez would be on the top list considering how he got that save on WCF, Julian Alvarez was there because he's likely a contender on most goals between Messi and Mbappe. Yeah, that was not a perfect voting system, a lot of strikers are out there.
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March 03, 2023, 10:29:11 PM
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I didn't say that he won't win any prize. I just stated that he would won much more awards if he was from France or England.
I understand you, but Messi and Ronaldo haven't both been from England and France as well. I don't even remember the last time an English player won a major accolade  Grin
All Haaland has to do is to score lots of goals, break records, and win trophies or get so close like being a Finalist especial in top tournaments like at European stage. The media will just go bollocks.

That's what I have observed with this prestigious awards in the recent times. Don't be surprised if Messi wins another Ballon D'or because of the World Cup he won last year.

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March 04, 2023, 06:09:54 PM
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It's probably impossible to make perfect voting system simply because people always will be biased. And it doesn't matter who are they - players, managers, journalists or just regular fans. And when it we have people from more than 200 asociations voting, it's popularity and personal preferences contest. And when we have players or managers from countries like Gibraltar, Maldives or Guam (with all respect) who aren't professionals and football is just hobby for them, probably they're not much different from fans like your or me.
I think now it's impossible that defender would win this award, like Fabio Cannavaro did in 2006.

Yeah, it's not possible to have a perfect voting system. If points are calculated purely based on computer generated points, then some subjective picture about a player is missing. On the other hand, if you based points purely on a human judgement, those points tend to be too biased.

I don't think that it's impossible for a defender to win this award. It's just much harder for a defender than for a striker to win it. A defender must really be a real star player to stand out from the attackers and win the prize.
This is why we have different judges, not only one and I think the judges are sometimes from other places and they don't know the other judges, only to remove the possibility of gaming the voting system. After all, there are still results which are sometimes unpleasant where the judges can pick up a wrong winner but we audience still know it and we will still honor the real winner of the game.

Each role in sport is important so judges should not be biased and based only their votes on who is the existing star of the game. The role of the defender in football is not a joke and if the defender plays poorly, then it will be easy for the opponents to score a win.

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March 04, 2023, 06:29:32 PM
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Argentina has a lot to celebrate....

As if it wasn't enough to have won the most important championship in football, they are still protagonists of an unprecedented dominance in the main prizes of "The Best".
This was the first time that a country was chosen for having the best player in the world, the best coach and the best goalkeeper.

The World Cup victory certainly helped to achieve this result in "The best". Messi and Martínez had already been chosen as the best player and the best goalkeeper of the tournament. Only that there was no individual trophy, but... just because there wasn't a specific award for coaches in the world cup.

Congratulations Argentina!

They deserve everything thay has to do with the competition and the Fifa awards
I am not just cool with how Martinez just came in just because he won the world cup
He was not even the best hit man at goal, Morroco goal keeper should have taken that shine bonu deserves it.

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September 15, 2023, 06:52:13 AM
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yesterday the fifa published the shortlist for 'the best fifa football awards 2023'. champions league winners manchester city have the largest contingent, sending Erling Haaland, argentina's Julian Alvarez, portugal's Bernardo Silva, spain's Rodri and belgium's Kevin De Bruyne.
fans can cast their votes in all categories on the fifa website until october 6. the winners of 'the best fifa football awards 2023' will be honored at a gala early next year. an exact date has not yet been set.

from the following overview you can see all the nominees:

the nominees for fifa world player (men)
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Julián Alvarez (Argentina)
Marcelo Brozovic (Croatia)
Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium)
Ilkay Gündogan (Germany)
Erling Haaland (Norway)
Rodrigo Rodrigo (Rodri)
Hernandez Cascante (Spain)
Khvicha Kvaratskhelia (Georgia)
Kylian Mbappé (France)
Lionel Messi (Argentina)
Victor Osimhen (Nigeria)
Declan Rice (England)
Bernardo Silva (Portugal)

the nominees for fifa world player (women)
Code:
Aitana Bonmati (Spain)
Linda Caicedo (Colombia)
Rachel Daly (England)
Kadidiatou Diani (France)
Caitlin Foord (Australia)
Mary Fowler (Australia)
Alex Greenwood (England)
Jennifer Hermoso (Spain)
Lindsey Horan (USA)
Amanda Ilestedt (Sweden)
Lauren James (England)
Sam Kerr (Australia)
Mapi Leon (Spain)
Hinata Miyazawa (Japan)
Salma Paralluelo (Spain)
Keira Walsh (England)

the nominees for fifa world coach (men)
Code:
Pep Guardiola (Spain)
Simone Inzaghi (Italy)
Ange Postecoglou (Australia)
Luciano Spalletti (Italy)
Xavi (Spain)

the nominees for fifa world coach (women)
Code:
Peter Gerhardsson (Sweden)
Jonatan Giraldez (Spain)
Tony Gustavsson (Sweden)
Emma Hayes (England)
Sarina Wiegman (Netherlands)

the nominees for fifa world goalkeeper (men)
Code:
Yassine Bounou (Morocco)
Thibaut Courtois (Belgium)
Ederson (Brazil)
André Onana (Cameroon)
Marc-André ter Stegen (Germany)

the nominees for fifa world goalkeeper (women)
Code:
Mackenzie Arnold (Australia)
Ann-Katrin Berger (Germany)
Catalina Coll (Spain)
Mary Earps (England)
Christiane Endler (Chile)
Zecira Musovic (Sweden)
Sandra Paños García-Villamil (Spain)

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September 15, 2023, 08:01:58 PM
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If we talk about men award, then probably it would be big surprise if Messi won't win it. After all, winning World Cup finally is main thing. Only Haaland can compete with him. Women award most likely will go to Aitana Bonmati. She was best player of World Cup in team which lifted trophy and she won Champion League with Barcelona.
Best coach award, I have no doubts that Pe Guardiola will get. Another EPL trophy, but most important thig that he finally won Champions League with other team than Barcelona. Women coach award is more difficult to predict. I would go with Jorge Vilda, former coach of Spain, but there is some contraversies related with him, so, I doubt that he can win this award.

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