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December 12, 2020, 11:02:48 AM
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To reduce the spread of the covid 19 virus, we need a vaccine, and now there are some vaccines ready to be released on the market this coming year 2021.

In my country there are some barangays/places to be vaccinated first. The question is, is it safe? What will be the effect on the person being injected?

You can trace the fear of people to its possible effect. There are people interviewed who really do not want to get vaccinated out of fear. Even me, I have doubt on this vaccine after what happened to the Dengvaxia vaccine which caused the deaths of some children's here in our country.

Aside from the possible negative or positive effect of this covid vaccine, we need to consider also the value of it.

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Pfizer and BioNTech have set the initial price at $19.50 a dose, which comes to $39 per patient (since each vaccine requires a two-dose regimen), in its $1.95 billion contract with the federal government as part of Operation Warp Speed in July. Pfizer and BioNTech, which have developed an mRNA-based vaccine, will receive that amount for the first 100 million doses, pending regulatory approval. Moderna, which has developed a competing mRNA vaccine, received nearly $1 billion from the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority and has a $1.5 billion contract for 100 million doses, bringing its price to around $50 per patient or $25 a dose.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiejennings/2020/11/17/how-much-will-a-covid-19-vaccine-cost/?sh=c6ef1ba576de


What do you think the price, is that reasonable? Can people buy at that price?

I think only those from the middle to upper class can afford that vaccine. But those in the lower classes and among the poor in the poorest cannot afford it, unless the government buys and gives it to the people for free if they want the country to be covid free or even reduce the spread of the virus.
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December 12, 2020, 12:06:54 PM
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In my country there are some barangays/places to be vaccinated first. The question is, is it safe? What will be the effect on the person being injected?
I could not say the vaccines are safe but according to reports, this is done professionally in a way many people have been given this vaccines and showing positive results. Some can have side effect but mild, just like headach or pain at some localized part of the body or maybe others but it is mild and will die down just like many other vaccines do act after injected someone, but all these are short term. The vaccines have succeeded and proven good on short term now, but we do not yet know if the vaccine will have long term effect because it is still under testing and that should be the phase 4 after it has being given to mases in phase 3. But as of now, progress has been made, and likely but not yet proven that the vacinnes will not have long effect.

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December 12, 2020, 01:38:30 PM
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for now it is true that the vaccine will be produced on a large scale, but in my opinion there are still many people who are not sure about the vaccine. We can see that there are several countries that do not charge a penny from vaccines that will be distributed to the public, meaning free. but I forgot the country (if you know please remind the name of the country). I watched the news yesterday on BBC television.
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December 12, 2020, 01:51:22 PM
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As of now the need for vaccine has made more ventures get into the development of covid-19 vaccine. As a result almost every country have their firms in the competition. Pfizer was found to be in the lead, and the same has made FDA approve the vaccine on emergency need. As a beginning it has planned to supply vaccine to the frontline health care workers. When vaccine gets effective in human beings, automatically the economic situation recovers as everything begin to function as the days before covid-19 into the world.

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December 12, 2020, 01:55:44 PM
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40 dollars is not the price. Cheaper than new game. 5 hours of working at minimal wage in USA. Pretty cheap vaccine for everyone

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December 12, 2020, 01:59:18 PM
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"How many corona strains is the vaccine effective against."

"How many strains of corona are there."

The media omits relevent information necessary to know how effective or useless a vaccine would be at the present time.

At worst a vaccine might be effective against only one strain of the virus. Which could make it as ineffective in treating the pandemic as the flu shot. A person might be inoculated against one strain of the virus, only to be infected by a different strain.

In addition to this, it has been said corona virus vaccines are only effective for 6 months. Which would mean people need to be inoculated twice annually.

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December 12, 2020, 02:26:55 PM
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To reduce the spread of the covid 19 virus, we need a vaccine, and now there are some vaccines ready to be released on the market this coming year 2021.

In my country there are some barangays/places to be vaccinated first. The question is, is it safe? What will be the effect on the person being injected?

You can trace the fear of people to its possible effect. There are people interviewed who really do not want to get vaccinated out of fear. Even me, I have doubt on this vaccine after what happened to the Dengvaxia vaccine which caused the deaths of some children's here in our country.

Aside from the possible negative or positive effect of this covid vaccine, we need to consider also the value of it.



We have no choice but to get vaccinated or get infected and die from CoVid, it's bitter to swallow but we have to take it, they have spent a lot of times and spent a lot of money just to come out a vaccine because this is the only solution we have right now because we can never be sure if we are going to be fine if we get infected with CoVid.

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December 12, 2020, 02:27:41 PM
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40 dollars is not the price. Cheaper than new game. 5 hours of working at minimal wage in USA. Pretty cheap vaccine for everyone

Each country fiat currency has a different value. If in the US it was a cheap vaccine, I think in other countries $ 40 is a lot of money and too expensive for them to buy that vaccine. Actually in my country $40 is equivalent to a minimum daily wage for more than 3days or working for more than 27hours based on minimum hours daily.

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December 12, 2020, 02:28:30 PM
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Okay first of all we all should understand the fact that :
Vaccination is important!
That's the only way we are going to prevent this pandemic from spreading, I am aware of the fact that many people think that if most people did contact the virus 🦠 sooner or later the pandemic will be gone because of the heard immunity but let's look at the facts first :
Virus is mutating
The immunity is short lived
Now this further tells us the exact reason why we need a vaccination!! We would more or so need some booster doses for sure.
The country where am living the teachers are already been given the shots and still some of them did catch the virus. It's not a tool proof vaccination for sure but we have to look for the odds. Without vaccination the pandemic will take years to go. Plus 39$ is a nominal price , ofcourse it will change according to the country and the region you are living in... But it's worth spending for your safety. (The vaccination was made faster than anything and during the closed industrial period with excess efforts to make sure that antisepsis is done so I do believe that we have to invest what we can right now. )

Plus ofcourse if the strain has undergone mutations it would still be effective since basic chromosomal proteins would be same and effective change in the DNA sequence takes years even for viruses.

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December 12, 2020, 02:29:17 PM
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bassbity, the vaccine will be free for all EU residents, in the sense that they will not have to pay for it directly - but there is no doubt that it will be charged indirectly through various taxes. It should also be emphasized that only those vaccines that have passed all clinical stages will be approved, which means that they have already been tested on a large number of people and that apart from some anti-allergic reactions, there were no serious consequences. It is quite another story what consequences vaccines can have in the long run, because this is the first time that the process of their creation is so short without years of testing.



What do you think the price, is that reasonable? Can people buy at that price?

In developed countries, that price is not a problem - just look at how much a box of cigarettes of a well-known brand costs ($26 in Australia - or $5 in the Czech Republic), so it will be clear to you that $40 is not too high a price where people have money. Of course there are countries where people work all month for that amount or even less, and those governments should allow free vaccinations at the expense of the state.

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December 12, 2020, 03:00:40 PM
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There are several cases in several parts of Asian countries that have tested the use of vaccines, the result is that almost some people even experience bad symptoms, such as shortness of breath, the body becomes weak, even 5 of them are declared dead after consuming the Covid 19 vaccine from China.
this causes public distrust to use vaccines
why do vaccines seem to be dangerous?

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December 12, 2020, 03:25:39 PM
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What do you think the price, is that reasonable? Can people buy at that price?

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$40 is small money for some but for those who are poor it suffocates them.  I was convinced from the start that the emergence of a vaccine would only add to the huge profits for drug companies.  the government must immediately step in to overcome this so that there is no rebellion from residents who feel the cost of the vaccine is choking them..

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What do you think the price, is that reasonable? Can people buy at that price?

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$40 is small money for some but for those who are poor it suffocates them.  I was convinced from the start that the emergence of a vaccine would only add to the huge profits for drug companies.  the government must immediately step in to overcome this so that there is no rebellion from residents who feel the cost of the vaccine is choking them..
That would be hard in the first place. Everything would be expensive upon its introduction to the market.
The government should make a move in order to reach those who needs the vaccine the most such as healthcare workers and patients. For sure there will be superiority when it comes to the distribution of the vaccines and more likely, the rich ones will be the first ones to have it first even if there's no urgency. That's just how power works. Thus, the price could be expensive to many countries wherein demand is high in which governments should make actions with in order to promote urgency. Rebelion won't be a help and I think is not possible at this moment because the impression of many people towards this pandemic was lessen due to exposure of the problem.



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December 12, 2020, 04:52:57 PM
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The cost shouldn't be a problem, it's cheaper for governments to buy a vaccine rather than deal with unemployment and the fall of their economy. I've heard that there's currently not enough vaccine for some developing countries, but hopefully it will be fixed with international aid if necessary.

You can trace the fear of people to its possible effect. There are people interviewed who really do not want to get vaccinated out of fear. Even me, I have doubt on this vaccine after what happened to the Dengvaxia vaccine which caused the deaths of some children's here in our country.


This is just the result of antivax conspiracy theories that are being pushed by manufacturers of homeopathic, herbal and other crap "remedies".

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December 12, 2020, 05:04:25 PM
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The "cause of covid vaccine", well surely the cause would be an obvious need to combat a highly infectious and deadly virus. Vaccines are one of the most widely used and safest forms of medicine currently out there. Many millions of people get vaccinated each year for a whole swath of different reasons - either protection against something like rabies or polio. The science is very simple, you are simply teaching your body the ability to fight the virus with a much weaker version, so it can easily attack the actual virus much quicker if you were to encounter it. Frankly, if you don't want the vaccine then I am happy for you - it means people who want to protect themselves with a simple action are able to get it even quicker.

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December 12, 2020, 05:31:19 PM
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Many people will have the same fear.
First thought? Will it really work?
There are steps taken before they can approve that it is the real vaccine that will work against Covid19.
Of course, they do test it. With who or what? That we don't know.

But even with all these cures or vaccines, I don't think we can go back to the normal environment like before.
Sales of antiseptics., disinfectants, and masks will still grow. Thankfully, China is the one producing it.  Grin
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December 12, 2020, 06:05:26 PM
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What do you think the price, is that reasonable? Can people buy at that price?

I think only those from the middle to upper class can afford that vaccine. But those in the lower classes and among the poor in the poorest cannot afford it, unless the government buys and gives it to the people for free if they want the country to be covid free or even reduce the spread of the virus.

Mass vaccination is required especially that this pandemic is not our fault but the countries who made it.

The government should be responsible for the vaccination of the people and they should allocate a proper budget for that where the people can afford it in a reasonable price.

Not all of us are financially stable and many people who are struggling to live everyday probably can't afford to buy that vaccine.

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With the present situation across the whole world. The covid-19 has caused a lot of terror, not only to the world economic but to the entire human race. When thinking about the price that the vaccine will be sold. Either $19 or $35 per dose. The question is how many dosage will treat any patient of covid-19 completely. I'm just thinking out loud, minimum of two dosage per day, and that could go for 3 days. That's is 19*2*3=$114 in total. That's sti fair for the developed and developing countries. What of countries like Africa what majority of their people live with less than a $1 everyday. We would they afford that kind of money. $114 in some other countries in Africa will be in thousands when you do the conversion.

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December 12, 2020, 06:13:59 PM
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We all aware that covid can be eradicated through it's vaccines but since the existence of covid , the vaccines has not been released so expecting that the vaccine can be release in 2021 I think its fallacy, and expecting the vaccine, I think it will come up by the end of 2021 because I have not see any needful while the vaccine should be release again while many people lost their life's because of it why waiting for approval of its vaccine since, so emphasising on causes of covid, it's obvious that not everyone can explain better concerning how covid come in existence because from me I don't really have ideas of it.but I know it as communicable disease or transmitted disease.

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December 12, 2020, 06:22:07 PM
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As of the moment, even when the vaccine is not yet publicly released for massive usage to a lot of people, the people are already getting immune from the corona virus (covid-19) on which it shows that people's immune system is getting adaptable to fight back on its own against covid-19 having recoveries even the vaccine is still not on hand. Vaccines are created and intended to help out boosting up the immune system of the human body to fight back against harmful viruses and bacterias which is making it more significant for the existence of the vaccine to help out clearing out this pandemic.

There are various concerns with regards to the effectiveness of the vaccine but according to pharmaceutical companies Pfizer and BioNTech, they claim to create a 95% effectivity of vaccine based on clinical trials. Now with regards to the possible side effects which is the main concern of the people, we still cannot determine for we have different body composition and adaptability to medicines. We must just hope for the best.

With regards to the pricing, I think it is just and reasonable for government is having an allocated budget to shoulder the purchasing of the vaccines so no ome will be left behind and the priority will take into the needy.

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