Is Adam Back the real Satoshi Nakamoto?

[onooks]

I think is time to debunk this huge dilemma many people have in the bitcoin space including me.

Adam Back ?
the writing matches!

Julian Assange
huge interest!

Aliens ?
free humans from slavery!

Chinese Government
dump on U.S.!


So, who can debunk any of this?

[franky1]

the writing does not match
the personality does not match
heck even his coding skills does not match

yes adam back had a small piece of 'hashcash' that inspired satoshi.
but satoshi also grabbed inspiration from others too.

bitcoin is a puzzle of master craft bringing in different elements from different sources. and put together in a way those sources could never dream of doing.
this does not mean any of those elements made bitcoin.

much like the original person inventing the wheel centuries ago did not invent the new Tesla electric car.

as for personality. adam back is not that interested in 'banking for the unbanked'

[Pizzalover420]

Aliens ?
free humans from slavery!

Spoiler: Bitcoin runs off the fumes of fiat you are still a slave to central bankers.

Fiat buys the coins.
Fiat buys the miners.
Fiat sets the price.

It will be a central banker with the biggest mining farm in the end and they will collect all the coins through your kids, kids, kids network fee`s AKA enforced tax.

Bitcoin does not free you from the chains of central bankers. It is a illusion of freedom. In the end we actually become more enslaved.

Bitcoin or Fiat like Coke or Pepsi, still getting a cola.

[franky1]

yep bitcoin was supposed to be the escape from the US dollar reserve...
and yet. around the world.what metric is it measured against. yep the us dollar

many years ago i said people should measure it against the price of bread loaf
EG if an american bread loaf is $2 and a UK bread loaf is £1.50
then todays price is ~10,000 breadloaves

this would then let poorer/developing countries to afford bitcoin better. because if their loaves are only ~40c they can buy bitcoin for just $4k.
yes this is actually a fair thing to do. because its actually still 10,000 bread loaf real life value. in all countries

as a side effect
this would then make americans want to buy bitcoin by selling dollar and buying another nations currency and then buy bitcoin. thus making the forex of dollar take a decline due to all the dollar sales.
thus actually make world forex more fair and more equal valued. rather then the crappy control the dollar has on other countries value.
yep if china converted all its assets to breadloaf value they would actually prove they have a better GDP than america. which makes sense 1billion people should have a better GDP than 320m

however people around the world are fixing their national bitcoin price to the dollar value.
in short a country with 40cent loaves end up having to spend 50,000 loaves of bread value. not 10,000 bread loaves. which is unfair

.. so yes the US dollar still controls bitcoin

[YOSHIE]

Stop talking about adam is Satoshi, aliens are Satoshi, coffee is coffee will never become sugar.

Currently people are going viral talking about the movement of the Bitcoin price so that people are competing to invest in Bitcoin, you are busy looking for Satoshi's identity.

Focus on Bitcoin for now stop looking for a comparison of Satoshi to others. That's better for you, Satoshi has left something useful for all of us to make good use of.

[mk4]

the writing does not match
the personality does not match
heck even his coding skills does not match

yes adam back had a small piece of 'hashcash' that inspired satoshi.
but satoshi also grabbed inspiration from others too.

bitcoin is a puzzle of master craft bringing in different elements from different sources. and put together in a way those sources could never dream of doing.
this does not mean any of those elements made bitcoin.

much like the original person inventing the wheel centuries ago did not invent the new Tesla electric car.

as for personality. adam back is not that interested in 'banking for the unbanked'

And ultimately, I get that people get curious, but people really need to stop attempting to guess who the real Satoshi is. Knowing that it's probably going to be almost impossible in the first place, if someone does manage to expose who Satoshi is, it's really not going to do Bitcoin any good. Everyone not knowing Satoshi's political stances and opinions in general is definitely the way to go.

[onooks]

Aliens ?
free humans from slavery!

Spoiler: Bitcoin runs off the fumes of fiat you are still a slave to central bankers.

Fiat buys the coins.
Fiat buys the miners.
Fiat sets the price.

It will be a central banker with the biggest mining farm in the end and they will collect all the coins through your kids, kids, kids network fee`s AKA enforced tax.

Bitcoin does not free you from the chains of central bankers. It is a illusion of freedom. In the end we actually become more enslaved.

Bitcoin or Fiat like Coke or Pepsi, still getting a cola.

true we can't escape the dollar supremacy but... I believe there will be a way soon...

[Pizzalover420]

true we can't escape the dollar supremacy but... I believe there will be a way soon...

There is a way using elapsed duration coins.

Everyone earns 1 hour coin an hour or 1 second coin a second. Distributed to unique addresses.

Fiat will become irrelevant so will bitcoin.

Mark my words. I been talking to youth camps all around the world and lets just say the zoomers are much smarter than the old dogs, they understand they are slaves to central bankers with bitcoin still. It is true you can`t teach old dogs like adam back or david chaum new tricks, but these zoomers will replace them in 20 years.

[fiulpro]

Mr. Satoshi went though a lot to hide his identity.

Let us remember the fact that Mr. Adam was one in two people to recieve a message from Mr. Satoshi.

Now if he would have been Mr. Satoshi , he would not have done that , this would have made his very easy to track therefore I do believe that's not the case. Even though as you said it , they have similar attributes but that does not entirely tell us that he is the Creator of bitcoins and since he is actually involved with media , youtube , channels , supports bitcoins and other things openly I do believe he might have different opinions about coming out about the things you support as Mr. Satoshi have yet to come out in the public. He might , he might not.

What about "Aliens" 😂??
Yes I am very well aware of the fact that people believe that slimes abducted them and are enslaving them etc.. but I do think that it's not possible since if there were any aliens near us they would have to at least come from the nearest habitable planet , the journey itself would take years even if they travel with the speed of light and according to Mr. Einstein e=mc2/1-v2/c2 , they will dissolve into atoms and I don't think this is reversible and thus would disperse in the universe. If they did went through all this trouble to find a source to come to earth and back I do believe that they will make us know about it , plus about NASA hiding stuff , I am sure it's nothing, just superstitions 😂😂

[onooks]

What about "Aliens" 😂??
Yes I am very well aware of the fact that people believe that slimes abducted them and are enslaving them etc.. but I do think that it's not possible since if there were any aliens near us they would have to at least come from the nearest habitable planet , the journey itself would take years even if they travel with the speed of light and according to Mr. Einstein e=mc2/1-v2/c2 , they will dissolve into atoms and I don't think this is reversible and thus would disperse in the universe. If they did went through all this trouble to find a source to come to earth and back I do believe that they will make us know about it , plus about NASA hiding stuff , I am sure it's nothing, just superstitions 😂😂

many other ways to travel, you don't have to limit yourself to the speed of light.
see wormholes as example

[Stedsm]

Lol, ever heard of poison being called as nectar?
The same way, none in this world can actually be called Satoshi Nakamoto than Satoshi himself officially showing up ahead and claiming he's Satoshi by signing message with his privkeys. Honestly, if that ever happens, people's trust from the markets will become obsolete and things will change back to where they started from.

[pooya87]

many years ago i said people should measure it against the price of bread loaf
.. so yes the US dollar still controls bitcoin

Although it makes sense to measure price of a currency (ie. bitcoin) in goods (ie. purchasing power) rather than other fiat currencies but your logic is flawed here. If the simple act of measuring bitcoin price in US dollar makes it so that "US dollar controls bitcoin" then measuring its price in anything else means the same, ie. loaf of bread controls bitcoin!

Besides, people online on a public forum are reporting the price in USD but will always measure the price in their own local currency.

[Twinkledoe]

Lol, ever heard of poison being called as nectar?
The same way, none in this world can actually be called Satoshi Nakamoto than Satoshi himself officially showing up ahead and claiming he's Satoshi by signing message with his privkeys. Honestly, if that ever happens, people's trust from the markets will become obsolete and things will change back to where they started from.

I think we need to stop looking for who real Satoshi is. Be grateful that we have bitcoin today. But guess what, we will be seeing more conspiracy theories in the next coming years. It won't stop unless the real Satoshi will go public, and that I know, will not happen. If Satoshi wants to reveal himself, he should have done that a long time ago.

[tradri]

Stop talking about adam is Satoshi, aliens are Satoshi, coffee is coffee will never become sugar.

Currently people are going viral talking about the movement of the Bitcoin price so that people are competing to invest in Bitcoin, you are busy looking for Satoshi's identity.

Focus on Bitcoin for now stop looking for a comparison of Satoshi to others. That's better for you, Satoshi has left something useful for all of us to make good use of.

He's kinda sus....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=688J9UZJxKg

[meanwords]

Hotel? Trivago!

Again, there's no point talking about who Satoshi Nakamoto really is. First of all, there's just not enough evidence that Satoshi left for us to begin with except a few email and his engagement here in the forum. Even if he somehow got the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, there's not going to be much difference as the flow of Bitcoin is already in the hands of the community.

So why debunk anything? just let it be.

[Stedsm]

I think we need to stop looking for who real Satoshi is. Be grateful that we have bitcoin today. But guess what, we will be seeing more conspiracy theories in the next coming years. It won't stop unless the real Satoshi will go public, and that I know, will not happen. If Satoshi wants to reveal himself, he should have done that a long time ago.

I never wanted to know who Satoshi is, actually he's a sensation and if he's not wanting to come ahead and let people know about his identity, I believe that none in this world has the right to ask for such thing for him to reveal himself publicly. I believe I'm Satoshi, I believe you are, we all are Satoshi because we believe in him, we believe in BTC, we believe in freedom, freedom towards our finances, freedom from slavery of banks.

[wxa7115]

the writing does not match
the personality does not match
heck even his coding skills does not match

yes adam back had a small piece of 'hashcash' that inspired satoshi.
but satoshi also grabbed inspiration from others too.

bitcoin is a puzzle of master craft bringing in different elements from different sources. and put together in a way those sources could never dream of doing.
this does not mean any of those elements made bitcoin.

much like the original person inventing the wheel centuries ago did not invent the new Tesla electric car.

as for personality. adam back is not that interested in 'banking for the unbanked'

And ultimately, I get that people get curious, but people really need to stop attempting to guess who the real Satoshi is. Knowing that it's probably going to be almost impossible in the first place, if someone does manage to expose who Satoshi is, it's really not going to do Bitcoin any good. Everyone not knowing Satoshi's political stances and opinions in general is definitely the way to go.

Agreed, without a doubt it will be interesting to know the real identity behind the person or persons that are behind the name Satoshi Nakamoto, however as you say we live in point in time in which many people do not care about the functionality and the purpose of something and instead care about the people behind it, and I'm pretty sure that governments will do everything in their power to try to discredit Satoshi as a person and then try to discredit bitcoin with this information.

It will be interesting to know if Satoshi was aware of this and one of the reasons he choose to never reveal his identity was not only to protect himself but also to protect bitcoin from the attacks that it could receive because of who he was.

[Coin-Keeper]

I say let mathematics be the authority for those claiming to be "the man".  Using math prove your identity by signing the large (WELL KNOWN) BTC address to your name.  If you can't sign there is NO way in hell you are "the inventor of BTC".  Simple and conclusive!

[oktana]

Bitcoin does not free you from the chains of central bankers. It is a illusion of freedom. In the end we actually become more enslaved.

One question for you, why are you on this forum? No offence but if this is your believe then why do you care about Bitcoin? How can you say that Bitcoin makes more centralization? What point exactly are you trying to make? Sometimes we just say things unnecessarily. So what are we supposed to do now? Start proving to you that Bitcoin is not centralized or what? SMH, I really can't believe we have such members on this forum.

[ropyu1978]

We believe in btc, we also believe in our financial freedom, actually i also believe in the figure of satoshi, who introduced btc to us, but unfortunately the more we dig about him, the more he disappears and never wants to come forward to show it in public. yes, we just stop talking about him, we just focus on our bitcoin now .. let us be the next sathosi.