London went full lockdown

[Imran232]

In England, Boris Johnson effectively cancelled Christmas for almost 18 million people in London, south-eastern and eastern England as the region was put into a new two-week lockdown from Sunday.

Matt Hancock said infections in the areas placed under Tier 4 have “absolutely rocketed in the last few days”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-tier-4-london-christmas-cancelled-lockdown/

Different sources I have read also report that the virus has mutated lately and infecting/killing young people too.

On Sunday, the UK introduced strict new measures amid a soaring Covid-19 infection rate caused by a mutated strain. More than 24,000 new cases are being reported daily in the UK.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/transport/london-lockdown-tier-4-measures-mean-cancelled-trips-for-these-uae-travellers-1.1132062

And guess what, many Londoners are not happy with these decisions and leaving the city...

A virus makes our life soo much difficult. We feel now in soo much depressed. What will be happen in 2021. We still don't know. Now full london is lockdown. Then others state will be doing the same thing. After that others country also have to take this serious decision. We don't what will be happen. People will be die in hunger insted of covid. Then full world will be Stoped. Again all countries job person face the jobless situation. We can't blame  company too because they hadn't another option. We feel soo much afraid what will be happen in upcoming days, month, or should be year. We have now only hope is god will be done something magical for us through a scientists. And we will be greatful on him.

[Tash]

The intentions of convid become very clear now. Run the economy into the ground then when everyone is dead broke implement universal basic income, aka pigs money. (roof over the head, forced vaccination, enough food and great company).

[cheezcarls]

In the Philippines, I remember the time on how I was so depressed not to go outside of my home for 2 months due to lockdown. Only my dad can go out 3 days a week that time because he has a quarantine pass and only one can be provided per household (no other name can be written).

Now that my city and province are under the lowest level of quarantine because of the local government's strong efforts in containing the virus, our lives are almost back to normal but we are required to wear face mask and face shield in the public (except when dining in to restaurants). I even have a wearable air purifier necklace every time I go out.

I have some friends there in London, hopefully they are okay and I know how it feels to be under strict full lockdown. I suggest they should also use face shields when going out in public so that our face (especially eyes) can be protected when encountering a person. I know it's funny, but it's additional protection. Both face mask and shield already mandatory in the entire Philippines.

[tvbcof]

In the Philippines, I remember the time on how I was so depressed not to go outside of my home for 2 months due to lockdown. Only my dad can go out 3 days a week that time because he has a quarantine pass and only one can be provided per household (no other name can be written).

Now that my city and province are under the lowest level of quarantine because of the local government's strong efforts in containing the virus, our lives are almost back to normal but we are required to wear face mask and face shield in the public (except when dining in to restaurants). I even have a wearable air purifier necklace every time I go out.

I have some friends there in London, hopefully they are okay and I know how it feels to be under strict full lockdown. I suggest they should also use face shields when going out in public so that our face (especially eyes) can be protected when encountering a person. I know it's funny, but it's additional protection. Both face mask and shield already mandatory in the entire Philippines.

Don't forget 'social distancing.'

I thought something seemed familiar about some of this stuff, but I didn't really put it together.  James Evan Pilato did though:

  https://youtu.be/BQrNaet6Fa8?t=142

Yup.  Developed the stuff in Gitmo, then used it against us a decade later.  Sad but true.  Almost everything on the Gitmo 'Chart of Coercion' are things I have seen in-country over the last year.  Some in spades.

In the news here they actually say that 'we need the vaccine to get back to the new normal'.  Granted, English is not the first language here, but people who write newspaper articles are not illiterate.  Looks like most of the Gitmo techniques are not going away any time soon.

[franky1]

am taking 400 mg of HCQ / week,

making expensive urine and faeces.
your protecting yourself from digestive parasites. but not doing much, if anything for covid

'covid-19' is a disease not a micro-organism.  That would be the presumed 'SARS-CoV-2' virus.  Don't you remember your own propaganda bullshit phraseology?

i know. i actually did try talking at a higher level 9 months ago.. but with so many people not understanding i ended up giving in by dumbing down my language to their levels.. hoping then the context of my points got into their heads

you cant cry one day that im trying to be too grammarly correct. and then when dropping to your level then cry that im not grammarly correct.

but overall if your avoiding understanding the overall context with lame excuses like spelling or grammar being too/not precice. then you really are ignoring the overall point of the context
..

The point is that the new strain is definitely more infectious, and so far unclear how much more pathogenic.
It is more infectious because of the higher binding to hACE2, also appears more capable of immune evasion because of 69-70del.

scientists have "moderate confidence" that its basecode causes higher spread (causative)
but this is based on spread counting which can be explained by correlatiion where its human decision to continue to mingle and not the base code of that virus being more dangerous
..
i ran through some scenarios and this is what i see

causative increase of spread without any severe symptom change risk:
the higher hace2 binding wil cause more viral invasion of lung cells and lung damage and then more replication. but without triggering the first immuno response of fever or cough at day 5-7. means people are then spreading it due to not knowing they are sick.
in short: they may have no symptoms for 12 days rather than the old strain of 5-7 days
EG they might have slight breathing issues before it then triggers an immuno response in mild people rather then the old strain of fever cough followed by breathing issues

there are some other strains that are pre-symptom/symptom free for 12 days of infection

but what is more important is for people to not mingle as much. which is a human decision. because if you dont go near people, people cant get it.

i feel that its more of a human decision factor to mingle that causes more spread than the strain. especially amungst those presymptomatic or in social communities that are more ignorant of the rules. people should limit mingling even if they think they are virus free. and not only when they have symptoms

maybe it was a bad decision to reduce self isolation from 14 days to 10 days for those close contacts now that its known that some strains can be pre-symptomatic for 12days+.

[Cnut237]

Lockdowns only make things worse

Lockdowns make things better, because they dramatically reduce the number of people that each infected person is in contact with. This reduces the spread of the virus, and helps to keep it under some sort of control.
The way out of this is vaccination. Until we can get most people vaccinated, the way to control it is to keep the spread as low as we can. Masks, distancing, hand washing, lockdowns.

[Tash]

Backward, incapable of critical thinking people are way scarier than any virus will ever be. Some people in earnest belief others work for them.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kQ73s2S0rYJJ/

[cheezcarls]

In the Philippines, I remember the time on how I was so depressed not to go outside of my home for 2 months due to lockdown. Only my dad can go out 3 days a week that time because he has a quarantine pass and only one can be provided per household (no other name can be written).

Now that my city and province are under the lowest level of quarantine because of the local government's strong efforts in containing the virus, our lives are almost back to normal but we are required to wear face mask and face shield in the public (except when dining in to restaurants). I even have a wearable air purifier necklace every time I go out.

I have some friends there in London, hopefully they are okay and I know how it feels to be under strict full lockdown. I suggest they should also use face shields when going out in public so that our face (especially eyes) can be protected when encountering a person. I know it's funny, but it's additional protection. Both face mask and shield already mandatory in the entire Philippines.

Don't forget 'social distancing.'

I thought something seemed familiar about some of this stuff, but I didn't really put it together.  James Evan Pilato did though:

  https://youtu.be/BQrNaet6Fa8?t=142

Yup.  Developed the stuff in Gitmo, then used it against us a decade later.  Sad but true.  Almost everything on the Gitmo 'Chart of Coercion' are things I have seen in-country over the last year.  Some in spades.

In the news here they actually say that 'we need the vaccine to get back to the new normal'.  Granted, English is not the first language here, but people who write newspaper articles are not illiterate.  Looks like most of the Gitmo techniques are not going away any time soon.

Yes you are right I forgot about that mate. Thanks for the heads up. Social distancing is strictly implemented in the Philippines in terms of falling in line to grocery stores, banks, transportation, etc. But I would like to note that some politicians are violating their own protocols by gathering a lot of people and I am surprised that they were not being filed with cases because they are “politicians”.

Mass gatherings are banned as of the moment (but there are still some who ignored the health protocols and taking risk not only in getting the virus, but to be sanctioned by the government for violating the rules of no mass gathering (especially Christmas parties), but with the exception of family members, etc., in the same household.

[franky1]

But I would like to note that some politicians are violating their own protocols by gathering a lot of people and I am surprised that they were not being filed with cases because they are “politicians”.

UK boris johnson breached the advice and ended up in hospital. his wife and a few others had to isolate.
later breached again by having a 'business breakfast' meeting with people outside of his family.. he and a dozen others politicians ended up having to self isolate for 14 days

US trump breached his nations advice. ended up in hospital. many of his secret service had to isolate
later he breached it again and many of his family. co-workers, advisors and secret service men had to self isolate.
US rudy giuliani breached his nations advice.. ended up in hospital

yes there are many examples of those at the top being ignorant/stupid

many idiots think they can avoid the rules because they think thre will always be a spare hospital bed for them and as much treatments/medications as possible. problem is when hospitals fill up.. and no spare beds left and treatments become a scarce resource.. then those idiots will not have their fantasy life of top treatment. instead their family end up visiting their grave months later

[vaultman]

The government of England had to stop those who just fly out of the country, and only allow those who have good reasons for this to fly out, as this could lead to the spread of a new strain around the world, although most likely it has already led, since nothing was not done to reduce the spread of infection. I am sure that this is not the end and even more new viruses and diseases will appear.

[Twinkledoe]

But I would like to note that some politicians are violating their own protocols by gathering a lot of people and I am surprised that they were not being filed with cases because they are “politicians”.

UK boris johnson breached the advice and ended up in hospital. his wife and a few others had to isolate.
later breached again by having a 'business breakfast' meeting with people outside of his family.. he and a dozen others politicians ended up having to self isolate for 14 days

US trump breached his nations advice. ended up in hospital. many of his secret service had to isolate
later he breached it again and many of his family. co-workers, advisors and secret service men had to self isolate.
US rudy giuliani breached his nations advice.. ended up in hospital

yes there are many examples of those at the top being ignorant/stupid

many idiots think they can avoid the rules because they think thre will always be a spare hospital bed for them and as much treatments/medications as possible. problem is when hospitals fill up.. and no spare beds left and treatments become a scarce resource.. then those idiots will not have their fantasy life of top treatment. instead their family end up visiting their grave months later

Pretty much they feel they are entitled to special treatment, the reason why they are not scared of breaking their own protocol. As the world is not yet contained by this old strain of covid, we are now facing new strains, which scientists will need additional time to combat these new ones. People should really take this pandemic seriously. And take care of themselves because no on will.

[LTU_btc]

At least there is no news that vaccine will not work against this new strain. Otherwise it would be sisaster because it's already spread outside UK
Despite that I would prefer not to take covid vaccine, I can't wait until mass vaccination will begin - it's only way for us to return to normal life. But considering how fast thing developp, mass vaccination probably will begin not earlier than March and it would be good if most of population will be vaccinated until autumn when new wave of Covid may begin.
Maybe lockdowns stop spread of virus, but it have big negative impact for peoples mental health. Not being able to socialise with oher people, work, travel, spend your free time how you want. I'm not even talking about news media spreading all this negativity and panic - people are tired to live in this shit. And I'm already getting nervous when Iknow that I won't be able to celebrate Christmas like I used to do.

Btw I've already met people that are having their 3rd infections already.

Crazy shit.

Damn, I didn't thought it's possible, I thought that these who got re-infected is more like exception from the rule. For example in my country if you already been infected previously and had contact with someone who have Covid, you don't even have to go into isolation.

[Twinkledoe]

At least there is no news that vaccine will not work against this new strain. Otherwise it would be sisaster because it's already spread outside UK
Despite that I would prefer not to take covid vaccine, I can't wait until mass vaccination will begin - it's only way for us to return to normal life. But considering how fast thing developp, mass vaccination probably will begin not earlier than March and it would be good if most of population will be vaccinated until autumn when new wave of Covid may begin.
Maybe lockdowns stop spread of virus, but it have big negative impact for peoples mental health. Not being able to socialise with oher people, work, travel, spend your free time how you want. I'm not even talking about news media spreading all this negativity and panic - people are tired to live in this shit. And I'm already getting nervous when Iknow that I won't be able to celebrate Christmas like I used to do.

Btw I've already met people that are having their 3rd infections already.

Crazy shit.

Damn, I didn't thought it's possible, I thought that these who got re-infected is more like exception from the rule. For example in my country if you already been infected previously and had contact with someone who have Covid, you don't even have to go into isolation.

It means the immunity of that person is really weak getting a 3rd infection. That's unfortunate though. I believe if you are confident with your health status, it is really possible not to get this vaccine shot. Because if in case you will get infected, the effect may not be that devastating or you may just be an asymptomatic to this virus. I hope the new strains will be much easier to contain as more than possibly, this will be found also in other countries not only in UK.

[mu_enrico]

Lockdowns make things better, because they dramatically reduce the number of people that each infected person is in contact with.

Health is not the number one priority for everyone. This explains why some people would rather compromise their health for many things (mainly for happiness) such as smoking, drinking alcohol, eating fast foods, consuming drugs, going to strip clubs, etc.

Some people also take freedom as their number one priority, and they would die for their freedom.

With lockdowns, the government put everyone in one basket, i.e., wellness warrior. Thus, lockdown is not the voice of the people, but the minority rules the majority.

[Chrystora123]

Btw I've already met people that are having their 3rd infections already.

Shit, really? Do they get sick every time or just no symptoms?

Anyway, mutations are one of the traits of coronavirus. Why people seem surprised?! Lockdowns only make things worse as herding immunity will never be attained.
What if all flu-like symptoms, all this time, are coronavirus/covid-19 with different strains?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/viruses/change.htm the coronavirus (covid 19) is the twin sister/brother of the flu virus, so it is not surprising that the mutation occurs, even the flu medicine is currently always changing to keep up with the flu virus that continues to mutate..



prepare for the possibility of another mutation upgrade (covid 21)..

[mindrust]

Btw I've already met people that are having their 3rd infections already.

Shit, really? Do they get sick every time or just no symptoms?

I don't know everybody's full story but some people I met told me they showed no symptoms during their first infections and then they start to feel different kind of filth like shortness of breath, dizziness that doesn't go away etc during  or after their 2nd infections. 2-3 guys told me they are having their thirds but i don't know if they are lying really. I think it is possible because the immunity we build after having the infection only lasts 2-3 months as far as I know.

[franky1]

Btw I've already met people that are having their 3rd infections already.

Shit, really? Do they get sick every time or just no symptoms?

I don't know everybody's full story but some people I met told me they showed no symptoms during their first infections and then they start to feel different kind of filth like shortness of breath, dizziness that doesn't go away etc during  or after their 2nd infections. 2-3 guys told me they are having their thirds but i don't know if they are lying really. I think it is possible because the immunity we build after having the infection only lasts 2-3 months as far as I know.

sorry but most people just dont randomly go and get tested for the pure hell of it.
so saying they had it but didnt realise because no symptoms.. sounds like they never had it but pretending they did to get a fortnight off work/fake it to get sympathy/be the center of attention.

also IF they did have it first time. then the second time the symptoms would be less. due to the immune system remembering how to fight it from the first time..

so if anything their supposed second time is actually their first. and their third would be their second

if they truly had it 3 times.. they would be put into some study and their results of their 3 tests would have been made public

heck even those with test confirmed 2nd infection are public info. so i doubt those you talk to had a 3rd infection

[BADecker]

Btw I've already met people that are having their 3rd infections already.

Shit, really? Do they get sick every time or just no symptoms?

I don't know everybody's full story but some people I met told me they showed no symptoms during their first infections and then they start to feel different kind of filth like shortness of breath, dizziness that doesn't go away etc during  or after their 2nd infections. 2-3 guys told me they are having their thirds but i don't know if they are lying really. I think it is possible because the immunity we build after having the infection only lasts 2-3 months as far as I know.

sorry but most people just dont randomly go and get tested for the pure hell of it.
so saying they had it but didnt realise because no symptoms.. sounds like they never had it but pretending they did to get a fortnight off work/fake it to get sympathy/be the center of attention.

also IF they did have it first time. then the second time the symptoms would be less. due to the immune system remembering how to fight it from the first time..

so if anything their supposed second time is actually their first. and their third would be their second

if they truly had it 3 times.. they would be put into some study and their results of their 3 tests would have been made public

heck even those with test confirmed 2nd infection are public info. so i doubt those you talk to had a 3rd infection

And the point of this all is, nobody really knows how many times they had it and got well from it. They don't know if they had it two summers ago before anybody even thought up a name for it. And so far, nobody is showing any proof that this isn't what is happening... doctors and scientists simply not knowing what is really going on.

With the Covid death rate at about of a quarter of a percent, and 80-some percent of those deaths in ages over 65 with comorbidities, there isn't even any reason for any lockdowns for medical reasons at all!

Deaths from heart disease and cancer are way above Covid deaths percent-wise and have been for years. But nobody locks down for them.

This whole Covid lockdown stuff is stupid. It's being done for the simple reason of attempting to enslave the people.

[mindrust]

sorry but most people just dont randomly go and get tested for the pure hell of it.
so saying they had it but didnt realise because no symptoms.. sounds like they never had it but pretending they did to get a fortnight off work/fake it to get sympathy/be the center of attention.

also IF they did have it first time. then the second time the symptoms would be less. due to the immune system remembering how to fight it from the first time..

so if anything their supposed second time is actually their first. and their third would be their second

if they truly had it 3 times.. they would be put into some study and their results of their 3 tests would have been made public

heck even those with test confirmed 2nd infection are public info. so i doubt those you talk to had a 3rd infection

sorry but your logic is very stupid.

One of the reasons that makes People want to get tested because somebody else from their family gets infected first. Another reason is, people here still go to work mostly. Not everybody is an IT worker that can work remotely. Some people still have to go to work sadly and they worry about their conditions and get the test from time to time.

If you don't believe the results of the PCR tests, now that's a different topic. I think PCR tests are a big scam personally.

[franky1]

sorry but most people just dont randomly go and get tested for the pure hell of it.
so saying they had it but didnt realise because no symptoms.. sounds like they never had it but pretending they did to get a fortnight off work/fake it to get sympathy/be the center of attention.

also IF they did have it first time. then the second time the symptoms would be less. due to the immune system remembering how to fight it from the first time..

so if anything their supposed second time is actually their first. and their third would be their second

if they truly had it 3 times.. they would be put into some study and their results of their 3 tests would have been made public

heck even those with test confirmed 2nd infection are public info. so i doubt those you talk to had a 3rd infection

sorry but your logic is very stupid.

One of the reasons that makes People want to get tested because somebody else from their family gets infected first. Another reason is, people here still go to work mostly. Not everybody is an IT worker that can work remotely. Some people still have to go to work sadly and they worry about their conditions and get the test from time to time.

If you don't believe the results of the PCR tests, now that's a different topic. I think PCR tests are a big scam personally.

thats the thing though. ..
i do believe in PCR tests. and if you are suggesting the guys actually did have 3 PCR tests to get confirmation. then the healthcare system would have been alerted to someone with 3 positives.
as that is a statistical anomaly and also a biological anomaly/fluke occurance. so like i said they would have been highlighted and put into a study which the world would want to know about

.. also by your dismissal of PCR and by your rhetoric that they didnt have symptoms 3 in a row. im very surprised by your own logic that you believed they were infected 3 times

search the internet and you will see how when someone is infected twice. the medical system get very interested in that person.. so 3 times.. well thats something the medical system would not ignore