London went full lockdown

[mindrust]

thats the thing though. ..
i do believe in PCR tests. and if you are suggesting the guys actually did have 3 PCR tests to get confirmation. then the healthcare system would have been alerted to someone with 3 positives.
as that is a statistical anomaly and also a biological anomaly/fluke occurance. so like i said they would have been highlighted and put into a study which the world would want to know about

.. also by your dismissal of PCR and by your rhetoric that they didnt have symptoms 3 in a row. im very surprised by your own logic that you believed they were infected 3 times

search the internet and you will see how when someone is infected twice. the medical system get very interested in that person.. so 3 times.. well thats something the medical system would not ignore

PCR tests are not to be trusted completely, that I know. How come they give first negative and then positive results for the same example taken from the same person? Even then, the positive result might not be for the Covid19 but for some other coronavirus.

I didn't say I believe those guys have gotten their 3rd infection, I said It is possible.

Medical system is not ignoring them. They give their pills and send them home. If they get worse, they put their O2 masks in the hospitals. The system cannot do much else to treat these people.

Mathematically it is possible to get your 3rd and even your 5th or 10th infection in the future. We don't know how many times your body can take it before you die from the virus. It all depends on your body's immune system and your viral load and whether you have other illnesses or not I guess. Too many variables that can affect the result.

I also know this infection is not going to go away unless somebody comes up with an effective medicine. Not a fucking vaccine. People shouldn't be afraid of getting the disease. Young people are not afraid of the influenza virus because they know if they get oseltamivir in the early stages, they can beat it easily. No need to get vaxxed because of the damn flu.

They say the mrna vax is 95% effective. Even if that's right they'll have to vaxx the entire population every 4-6 months to make it count which is impossible.

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[Tash]

.............. comes up with an effective medicine. Not a fucking vaccine. People .....

There are available one of them MMS, or CDS-CDH as with everything the right dosis is key and the impalance is corrected. Fit and ready to move on.

[tvbcof]

.............. comes up with an effective medicine. Not a fucking vaccine. People .....

There are available one of them MMS, or CDS-CDH as with everything the right dosis is key and the impalance is corrected. Fit and ready to move on.

We are only at the very start of things.  Every step in the 'move on' process will bring a whole new meaning to the word 'suffering.'  This is 'biblical' because the designers find it useful to work through an existing set of plans.

“LOCK STEP: A world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership, with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback.”

They desire and rely on the 'citizen pushback' for this operation.  It is key to moving forward on certain projects.  If they don't get enough citizen pushback they'll do what they need to do in order to get more.

[mindrust]

The whole of England is getting isolated due to this mutated strain version of the corona is spreading there, almost every connection of England by other countries has been totally shut down already and also the new species are getting identified on other countries as well based on their travel track record. It means the corona lockdown is going to continue in 2021 also. So we should be mentally prepared to face anything that will be a lot worse than in 2021.

Pointless. By the time they figured it out, many people already were flying with the new mutation to the other countries probably.

Also, If the vaxx is effective against this new mutation... (so they say)

WHY IS THE FUCKING PANIC?

too many lies going on at once

[tvbcof]

The whole of England is getting isolated due to this mutated strain version of the corona is spreading there, almost every connection of England by other countries has been totally shut down already and also the new species are getting identified on other countries as well based on their travel track record. It means the corona lockdown is going to continue in 2021 also. So we should be mentally prepared to face anything that will be a lot worse than in 2021.

Pointless. By the time they figured it out, many people already were flying with the new mutation to the other countries probably.

Also, If the vaxx is effective against this new mutation... (so they say)

WHY IS THE FUCKING PANIC?

too many lies going on at once

You asked:



Yup.  He's still around, and sure enough, he played a role in 'modeling' the 'new strain' dynamics.

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/more-flawed-imperial-college-models-led-xmas-lockdown-ppe-foreknowledge-vaccine-side-effects/

Even the new working group that Neil Ferguson was a part of on the new-strain scam voted for no lockdowns but the politicians did it anyway.  This is, to me, proof positive that the politicians are not 'fooled'.  They are instructed to do certain things to the population and they are following their orders.  It's pretty cut-and-dried actually.

[sort_cirkit]

anyway all the news about the london strain is showing that more people are getting infected due to londoners disobeying the rules.

The virus is unlikely to spread after the lockdown. The people of England are educated and humane. Why are they rebelling. Poor countries where there is no education, no humanity, no lock down. Poor countries have the virus but its spread is much less. The problem is elsewhere.
The game is on. Government vs. people.
Preparations for World War III.

[Tash]

..
Preparations for World War III.

You in the mittle of it

[Cnut237]

anyway all the news about the london strain is showing that more people are getting infected due to londoners disobeying the rules.

The virus is unlikely to spread after the lockdown. The people of England are educated and humane.

Anecdotally, I've seen plenty of people here in the UK flouting rules, not wearing masks in shops and public transport, not social distancing, travelling to other areas. People in the UK are no better or worse than people elsewhere, they've just people. Some obey the rules, some don't. Some actively try to not spread the virus, others couldn't care less.

Given what we've seen here so far, I would expect the 'tier 4' lockdown to be only partially effective. There are also people who are angry that other countries won't let people from the UK in... but if we had a more responsible attitude, the UK should be pre-emptively closing its borders to stop this variant from getting out.

[KingScorpio]

virus has been send by god, he will mutate and wipe out all those god dislikes like during the flood

[Gyfts]

anyway all the news about the london strain is showing that more people are getting infected due to londoners disobeying the rules.

The virus is unlikely to spread after the lockdown. The people of England are educated and humane.

Anecdotally, I've seen plenty of people here in the UK flouting rules, not wearing masks in shops and public transport, not social distancing, travelling to other areas. People in the UK are no better or worse than people elsewhere, they've just people. Some obey the rules, some don't. Some actively try to not spread the virus, others couldn't care less.

Given what we've seen here so far, I would expect the 'tier 4' lockdown to be only partially effective. There are also people who are angry that other countries won't let people from the UK in... but if we had a more responsible attitude, the UK should be pre-emptively closing its borders to stop this variant from getting out.

WOW!

I was told it was just the fat Americans that couldn't abide by lockdown regulations for 2 weeks effectively extending this pandemic and then killing over 200k people. A bit crazy how that works!

Lockdowns do absolutely nothing when the spread is out of control and I'm rather shocked the UK is focused on lockdown despite a strain that is more transmissible is floating around. Locking down will not stop the spread at this point -- focus on protecting the elderly instead of trying to destroy people's livelihood.

[squatz1]

anyway all the news about the london strain is showing that more people are getting infected due to londoners disobeying the rules.

The virus is unlikely to spread after the lockdown. The people of England are educated and humane.

Anecdotally, I've seen plenty of people here in the UK flouting rules, not wearing masks in shops and public transport, not social distancing, travelling to other areas. People in the UK are no better or worse than people elsewhere, they've just people. Some obey the rules, some don't. Some actively try to not spread the virus, others couldn't care less.

Given what we've seen here so far, I would expect the 'tier 4' lockdown to be only partially effective. There are also people who are angry that other countries won't let people from the UK in... but if we had a more responsible attitude, the UK should be pre-emptively closing its borders to stop this variant from getting out.

WOW!

I was told it was just the fat Americans that couldn't abide by lockdown regulations for 2 weeks effectively extending this pandemic and then killing over 200k people. A bit crazy how that works!

Lockdowns do absolutely nothing when the spread is out of control and I'm rather shocked the UK is focused on lockdown despite a strain that is more transmissible is floating around. Locking down will not stop the spread at this point -- focus on protecting the elderly instead of trying to destroy people's livelihood.

I mean... If the spread is out of control enough, a temporary lockdown is not a bad idea. It allows for local officials to look at what is going on and more effectively plan for what they're doing for the future in terms of what businesses can stay open, regulations regarding the amount of people, if they're going to have county / state officials check in on things at establishments and so on and so forth.

Obviously you don't want to keep this lockdown going for that long, but as long as needed to ensure the spread is at least under control.

[Tash]

Must uplifting Christmas, London telling the new world order to shove their poison vaccine up their ass
https://youtu.be/_hBxleGUxig

[Gyfts]

anyway all the news about the london strain is showing that more people are getting infected due to londoners disobeying the rules.

The virus is unlikely to spread after the lockdown. The people of England are educated and humane.

Anecdotally, I've seen plenty of people here in the UK flouting rules, not wearing masks in shops and public transport, not social distancing, travelling to other areas. People in the UK are no better or worse than people elsewhere, they've just people. Some obey the rules, some don't. Some actively try to not spread the virus, others couldn't care less.

Given what we've seen here so far, I would expect the 'tier 4' lockdown to be only partially effective. There are also people who are angry that other countries won't let people from the UK in... but if we had a more responsible attitude, the UK should be pre-emptively closing its borders to stop this variant from getting out.

WOW!

I was told it was just the fat Americans that couldn't abide by lockdown regulations for 2 weeks effectively extending this pandemic and then killing over 200k people. A bit crazy how that works!

Lockdowns do absolutely nothing when the spread is out of control and I'm rather shocked the UK is focused on lockdown despite a strain that is more transmissible is floating around. Locking down will not stop the spread at this point -- focus on protecting the elderly instead of trying to destroy people's livelihood.

I mean... If the spread is out of control enough, a temporary lockdown is not a bad idea. It allows for local officials to look at what is going on and more effectively plan for what they're doing for the future in terms of what businesses can stay open, regulations regarding the amount of people, if they're going to have county / state officials check in on things at establishments and so on and so forth.

Obviously you don't want to keep this lockdown going for that long, but as long as needed to ensure the spread is at least under control.

Unless you literally chain people to their bed post, lockdowns won't do much except delay the inevitable. When you have people going to grocery stores or going out in public, it defeats the purpose of the lockdown.

So, what you end up getting is a destroyed local economy, kids missing out on their vaccines, women missing breast cancer screenings, increased domestic abuse, depression, ect. in order to *attempt* to slow down the spread when in reality it does nearly nothing.

My view from the start has always been protect the most vulnerable because it's a strategy that's feasible oppose to trying to chain a 22 year old and stop them from going out. Kids these days hardly ever listen, and the hard right boomer population act the same way.

[CryptocurencyKing]

Mutations are organisms best way of combating the various antibodies and vaccines available through series of replication and improvement on its genetic coding. I'm only getting to hear about these newly evolved or mutant strains (VUI202012/1) now and its got me asking myself some questions,,,

1. Could this mutant strains be as a result of tested vaccines
2. Could it be linked to the long period of stay in infected humans, especially the youths as its not lethal to them hence, the body becomes some sort of vegetative stage or growth phase?
3. Could it be linked to the various individuals that were later found out to be susceptible to the infection after 6 months or more of recovery?

This calls for a more accurate vaccine production and i believe those saddled with the task are putting in their best but accuracy would help a lot in preventing any further damage.
Londoners need to be more corporative with the government and the rules. If the £1,000 fine doesn't seem like much considering an individuals status and raising the fee might help and more attention should be given to the airways that seems to be operating normally as well.

[Gyfts]

Mutations are organisms best way of combating the various antibodies and vaccines available through series of replication and improvement on its genetic coding. I'm only getting to hear about these newly evolved or mutant strains (VUI202012/1) now and its got me asking myself some questions,,,

1. Could this mutant strains be as a result of tested vaccines
2. Could it be linked to the long period of stay in infected humans, especially the youths as its not lethal to them hence, the body becomes some sort of vegetative stage or growth phase?
3. Could it be linked to the various individuals that were later found out to be susceptible to the infection after 6 months or more of recovery?

This calls for a more accurate vaccine production and i believe those saddled with the task are putting in their best but accuracy would help a lot in preventing any further damage.
Londoners need to be more corporative with the government and the rules. If the £1,000 fine doesn't seem like much considering an individuals status and raising the fee might help and more attention should be given to the airways that seems to be operating normally as well.

Viruses aren't living things so they aren't going through mutations necessarily like you described similar to some bacterial strain that might mutate because of a selection mechanism, like antibiotics for example which cause some bacteria to develop a resistance.

But to your point - the vaccines shouldn't cause a selection mechanism where the viruses that are "resistant" to the vaccine will continue to spread rendering the vaccine useless due to the fact the vaccine creates spike proteins, the same ones found on the surface of the virus. So when you think about it, the only way for the vaccine to force a super resistant COVID strain would be if a new COVID strain developed without the spike proteins studded on the surface. Not really sure about your other points, but the vaccine and mutations aren't two concepts that go together.

[BADecker]

The only way they can see a single virus is with the electron microscope... or that's the way that it used to be.

They can assume they are seeing batches of billions of viruses one way or another, chemically.

Now, with the advent of the Microsphere Nanoscope (MN), they are finding that there are as many exosomes as there are viruses, and they look almost exactly the same - exosomes and viruses... not that any one virus looks exactly the same as another virus of the same kind.

This whole Covid thing is the last shot that the medical has at making money off viruses and vaccines. Why? Because the MN info about viruses being exosomes is gradually leaking out. And once it gets out there, everybody will realize that they have been played by the medical for 150 years... played into thinking that there are viruses, when all the viruses were really exosome messengers, moving cell to cell, telling the cells of the body that they needed to get better nutrition or die.

Viruses are as total lie. The problem always has been poor nutrition that causes an acidic "biome" in the bodies of individual people.

[Tash]

Viruses are as total lie. The problem always has been poor nutrition that causes an acidic "biome" in the bodies of individual people.

Exactly, and not enough sunshine which is needed for Vitamin D.
The predominant frequency then determines the sickness, aka HCoV-OC43 or HCoV-229E common cold  “coronavirus”.
With the new covid the various 5G fequencys.

Correct diet 70% Alkaline 30% Acidic
The pH of the body is the amount of acid relative to the amount of base (Alkaline). 
Whole body pH is tightly regulated by your lungs and kidneys.  Acid is produced in our bodies from normal processes such as digestion and metabolism. The aim is to have a daily Kidney acid load of about -2.

[baundul]

London has faced the COVID-19 in the second round for their free movement. They have called for their death without hesitation. Although their communication is now completely cut off, the virus has knocked them out. The whole world has to be like London if anyone thinks VIRUS a little. Everyone needs to be more careful this winter.

[BADecker]

London has faced the COVID-19 in the second round for their free movement. They have called for their death without hesitation. Although their communication is now completely cut off, the virus has knocked them out. The whole world has to be like London if anyone thinks VIRUS a little. Everyone needs to be more careful this winter.

The vaccine has knocked the people out. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5303377.msg55932616#msg55932616 for additional, important info.