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December 23, 2020, 07:32:44 AM
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Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)
Do we really deserve an incentives for taking care of ourselves to not get infected? I mean its our responsibility to comply and be healthy for our own sake, thus I think its not necessary.

Besides there are many institutions specially the health care facilities that really need funds to enhance their services and accomodate more patients. In our country we are lacking of health care providers and hospitals, the reason why some patients are not able to survive for not getting the treatment they needed.

So instead of giving a reward for the covid free people, why not think of more essential things that need the budget first to address the main issue that we currently face.

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December 23, 2020, 08:32:41 AM
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I don't think it is something that has to be rewarded since it is really our responsibility to keep ourselves healthy even without the pandemic. Why would the government spend its budget incentivizing or rewarding people who haven't caught Covid. This amount of money can be spent somewhere else than to give people incentives for not getting Covid.
Well government thinking about themselves not their people they really don't care about the people if they die or not as long as they are earning money and they are already saved from this pandemic. And also government wants only money and this will not sink into their minds that those people who really felt the struggle of life just to survive this pandemic , here in my country you need to pay for the covid vaccine also those who already had covid and not givin it for free this is absolute insane they do not care about us anymore.
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December 23, 2020, 02:10:23 PM
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Also this sort of payment requires a regular thing and also stops people wanting to get tested.

But I think the government wouldn't let this happen so they will probably add a rule that people need to be tested first and wait for a period of time to get a reward. This reward system would actually force people to want the test.

But this reward system would be unfair to those who actually needs support which is the victims so I don't think it will work (unless they do the same with system with the victims).
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December 23, 2020, 02:58:10 PM
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Eli Khamarov said great words: "Poverty is like punishment for a crime you didn't commit". And that's 100% true. This proposal isn't directly in touch with the main subject of this thread but no one will reward you for being a good boy. I don't understand at all what's going on, the people who they save have dead are those with more than 1-2 chronic diseases and their state of being was already very critical. It would be better to see the statistics of those who dead with and without covid, both of them. Personally, I think that they play with statistics. Some countries rise statistics manually in order to get help with the form of money, i.e. grants from USA and Europe. In reality, they are making tons of money (big guys) with the current situation while it really hugely affects the population.

So, the reward for covid free people won't happen. No one will help you because you are a good guy! Also, this model of reward for me sounds illogical and not so good because maybe I have been covid free from the beginning but maybe I'll get infected tomorrow, after receiving the reward.

Btw I don't know if the reward for us is the money they give us, in reality that debt will be paid by US, it's like giving out a loan and paying yourself the loan that you gave away. A lot of illogical things happen in our world.

Well, as you said.. Governments and the World Health Organization is rewarding the countries for people who are infected... is that not illogical? Why give governments money for people who got infected?..... does that make sense at all?  (Yes, the thinking behind it is to fund the consequences of this virus... but my idea will prevent it.)

You will have to think out of the box for this idea to work.... even if there are 1000s of loopholes and also negative consequences as a result of such an idea. (Why would governments be serious to curb the spread of the virus, if they get paid for people who are infected or who have died?)
In reality, a lot of illogical thing happens in our society but in this case, it's pretty logical, you help those who need it. When the country fights against covid, a lot of resources are spent to treat patients and more strict restrictions are activated in such countries, that kills business. In this case, they really need the help and it's logical to help them but the problem is that some countries manipulate with statistics and use situation to benefit themselves. They don't benefit people but their pockets so it's the sad reality of today's world. You may ask, don't they know that these countries do such a bad things? Yes, and those, who donate, are bad guys too. Big guys don't care about people, all they want is money for themselves.

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December 23, 2020, 04:07:38 PM
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Also this sort of payment requires a regular thing and also stops people wanting to get tested.

But I think the government wouldn't let this happen so they will probably add a rule that people need to be tested first and wait for a period of time to get a reward. This reward system would actually force people to want the test.

But this reward system would be unfair to those who actually needs support which is the victims so I don't think it will work (unless they do the same with system with the victims).

In regards to the bolded, that will probably mean little to no incentive for people to do what is right, unless maybe you're paying just the victim hospital bill (no extra reward for victims to spend on other needs like how those without the disease will spend theirs)... or you're paying the disease-free ones more.
 Reward doesn't necessarily has to be monetary.. You could get people to accumulate/lose points for doing what is right/wrong and the good points can be used to improve their reputation in mostly health related areas, or the points could earn them more values/privileges when they're accumulated to certain level.
I think the reward system will need to be rule and evidence based. You find someone/people taking big health risk(or breaking important health safety rules) in public places, you capture them with special anonymity-friendly/privacy-friendly camera, you earn some points and the ones breaking rules lose points.    Better to do this in decentralized manner in form of Citizen Cams or something.
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December 23, 2020, 05:27:43 PM
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For the prize there are many who could build resistance against the virus, such as Canada. When you look at the results, you talk about America and you have to be embarrassed. In the intoxication of world conquest, America is busy but the COVID-19 has turned the country into a puppet. There are many issues that everyone comes up with for humanity but when we see fear, the result is the opposite. covid-19 is not very scary. The government wants to win by playing games with the common people.
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December 23, 2020, 08:00:04 PM
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It would be a good idea but as you said, if it didn't completely lack enforceability and the ability to implement.

To implement such a scheme you'd have to have some sort of universal health identifier/profile for all of the population. That itself is going to see a lot of backlash given the fact that it can be seen as an infringement of privacy rights.

Although a merit of this proposal is that it would also serve as a macroeconomic stimulus as a secondary effect, which is sorely needed in the majority of economies right now.
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December 23, 2020, 10:03:18 PM
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^ Honestly, in my personal and honest opinion, the reward system won’t work. It would only add to a lot of expenses your country has. Why?
It is simple. In order to prove that someone is COVID-19 free, there must be an examination. That is called the swab test, and it costs roughly around 100 USD per test depends on which country you are in. It may be more expensive.  At that stage, the government will have an expense. Then, of course, the compensation for having no COVID. It hurts me to think about how much money would it cost for the government.
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December 23, 2020, 11:47:58 PM
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^ Honestly, in my personal and honest opinion, the reward system won’t work. It would only add to a lot of expenses your country has. Why?
It is simple. In order to prove that someone is COVID-19 free, there must be an examination. That is called the swab test, and it costs roughly around 100 USD per test depends on which country you are in. It may be more expensive.  At that stage, the government will have an expense. Then, of course, the compensation for having no COVID. It hurts me to think about how much money would it cost for the government.
It all depends on the amount of remuneration in the end, if the amounts are scanty, then the costs will also be scanty, respectively Wink Here everything is not so clear from the point of view of morality, because not all people fall ill with COVID precisely because of non-compliance with precautionary measures, because in any case it is impossible to take into account all the accompanying factors and the probability of infection still remains.
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December 24, 2020, 01:30:25 AM
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For the prize there are many who could build resistance against the virus, such as Canada. When you look at the results, you talk about America and you have to be embarrassed. In the intoxication of world conquest, America is busy but the COVID-19 has turned the country into a puppet. There are many issues that everyone comes up with for humanity but when we see fear, the result is the opposite. covid-19 is not very scary. The government wants to win by playing games with the common people.

The virus doesn't do well against people with strong immune systems who don't catch cold or flu.

There's no point in trying to make people covid-free because in crowded cities they will get it anyway sooner or later. It's more important to educate people and make them stay healthy and strong.

Catching covid is easy but if you don't have any other health problems you will go through it without even knowing.
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December 24, 2020, 01:42:33 AM
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Biggest system required and it's need need for long time to implemented, regualtion, formula circulating supply spead money in society. I'm not sure that's could be one solution to make shiit is over.
Awareness staring by self or family it's very valuable than given those people rewards.

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December 24, 2020, 01:44:21 AM
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I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.
I know there are dumb asses but mostly people do care for their health and majority roaming out are risking to have a living as you cannot survive without a job and giving out incentives for taking care of your health does not bode well with any government Grin.

The virus doesn't do well against people with strong immune systems who don't catch cold or flu.
Do you think people have a strong immune system, i thought i had a pretty good immune system but when i was down with a chest infection this month i initially thought i was infected by covid and then came to a conclusion that it was a simple infection and this was the first time i was getting infected this badly and i know how much i suffered for almost two weeks.

If you still think you have the immune system to fight off these antibodies, make sure you take a Immunoglobulin Test so that you will have an idea about your body Wink.

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December 24, 2020, 03:27:11 AM
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I know there are dumb asses but mostly people do care for their health and majority roaming out are risking to have a living as you cannot survive without a job and giving out incentives for taking care of your health does not bode well with any government Grin.

I don't think that the majority are taking the necessary precautions to avoid getting infected. Here in India, during the initial days people were wearing masks and maintaining social distancing. But after a while, they got impatient, and started to ignore these precautionary steps. There has been a decline in the number of new infections and this might have contributed to the lax attitude. 

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December 24, 2020, 03:32:13 AM
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Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)
Do we really deserve an incentives for taking care of ourselves to not get infected? I mean its our responsibility to comply and be healthy for our own sake, thus I think its not necessary.

Besides there are many institutions specially the health care facilities that really need funds to enhance their services and accomodate more patients. In our country we are lacking of health care providers and hospitals, the reason why some patients are not able to survive for not getting the treatment they needed.

So instead of giving a reward for the covid free people, why not think of more essential things that need the budget first to address the main issue that we currently face.

Yes instead of incentives they should give things that can avoid someone to caught covid or if not just to decrease the chance of acquiring one. Like you said it is our own responsibility to protect ourselves and the government could make some law to those who don't abide from the rules.



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December 24, 2020, 02:38:41 PM
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When you talk about covid free people, that is not a permanent thing, I could be covid free today and could have covid tomorrow. However there were talks about how vaccination should be rewarded because there are too many talks of conspiracy about what the vaccination will do, and the world that mocked anti-vaxxer people just a year ago talks about how this vaccination could be bad.

If you were mocking anti-vaxxers just a year ago, why would you want to be like them today about the covid vaccination then? Which is why I think the best case would be giving money to people who get the vaccination. All of us need money during this period right? That is the smart thing to do? Well, that means if we could somehow so stimulus checks to people who get the vaccination, people will line up to get vaccinated, there will be very very small minority that wouldn't in exchange for a stimulus check.
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December 24, 2020, 10:08:30 PM
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The virus doesn't do well against people with strong immune systems who don't catch cold or flu.
Do you think people have a strong immune system, i thought i had a pretty good immune system but when i was down with a chest infection this month i initially thought i was infected by covid and then came to a conclusion that it was a simple infection and this was the first time i was getting infected this badly and i know how much i suffered for almost two weeks.

If you still think you have the immune system to fight off these antibodies, make sure you take a Immunoglobulin Test so that you will have an idea about your body Wink.

I've been walking around like normal, meeting friends, eating out. Even when they closed the restaurants because of covid I was supporting them and ordering takeaways.

During the last year I met with clients, friends, family. The probablility of one of those people being infected and passing it to me is pretty high yet I haven't even had a cold this year.

Until I see people around me getting sick and requiring medical help I'll keep being a skeptic when it comes to this epidemic.
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December 24, 2020, 10:47:07 PM
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Which is why I think the best case would be giving money to people who get the vaccination. All of us need money during this period right? That is the smart thing to do? Well, that means if we could somehow so stimulus checks to people who get the vaccination, people will line up to get vaccinated, there will be very very small minority that wouldn't in exchange for a stimulus check.
I also think that a really better idea than giving money to those who are not sick with COVID is to give money to those who have expressed their consent to vaccination. People who have not yet had COVID, but have received money for it, may well get sick in the near future, and those who have already been vaccinated will not get sick and will not create a subsequent burden on the state health system. Therefore, the benefits are mutual for both people and the state.
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I don't agree with the idea of giving rewards to COVID free people, because it will only waste state money on something that I think is
not important. It must be remembered that all countries are currently experiencing a financial crisis, which must be wise in using money.
After all, it is the duty of all residents to adhere to health protocols to be free from the corona virus, and don't do a rewards system for it.
I think it is more effective to impose fines on health protocol violators, in order to raise awareness of all important people to comply with
health protocols. This idea not only increases the number of COVID-free people, but also can increase state income.

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December 25, 2020, 01:48:01 PM
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Our government can't do that we don't have enough money to support all our CoVid patient and those that are displaced workers  because of the pandemic, rich country can do that but with the health system overwhelmed by the number of infected and closing of the economy I don't think it's a good idea, it's better that the money be put on the health sector and getting the economy up again.
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December 25, 2020, 02:35:35 PM
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We all want to stay away from covid19 no matter someone gives us rewards or not. But the problem is we need to go outside for shopping or at least purchase foods and this virus can spread through air and paper cash. So I think money should be provided to those people who are infected and can not work. These will support their medical and economical problems.
Actually it is so tough to provide all rewards who are surviving on this virus .Covid-19 is fast ever spreading virus as i know we are all surviving on different ways .Its a very good idea to give some rewards but still so tough to provide .So that we can use virtual coin like crypto instead of cash .It will be so helpful for them who are really surviving on it .

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