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December 21, 2020, 04:39:32 PM
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Hello everyone,

Online poker traffic is growing during the covid19 pandemic. Formats like tournaments are becoming
very attractive, sites are running huge series with big prizes to win and a lot of recreational players,
beginners and traditional casino players are joining. In addition some sites added cryptocurrencies as
deposit and withdraw options.

It would be great if i find some support:

Is there any interest in:

a) poker staking? short-/longterm, cashgames/tournaments
b) rakeback deals -casinos
c) cashback deals -ewallets
d) poker coaching?

Thank you!
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December 21, 2020, 05:55:36 PM
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Maybe you can indicate what your goal is and what you want to achieve with it? do you sometimes want to set up your own site or do you want advice where you should play?

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December 21, 2020, 07:00:43 PM
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Hey, my goal is to find out if the crypto community is interested in those topics i mentioned above.
Me and my team are working on a site similar to youstake.com, where payments are made in cryptos with lower fees and couple unique features.

Besides that im a longtime player who converted from a full time to a series player a couple years ago.
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December 21, 2020, 07:37:17 PM
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no doubt there will be enough interest in it. you just need to end up with the right players and you should be lucky to have certain people on your site who have some fame and network. I think it is quite a job to set up such a site

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December 21, 2020, 07:46:13 PM
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a) poker staking? short-/longterm, cashgames/tournaments
b) rakeback deals -casinos
c) cashback deals -ewallets
d) poker coaching?

You can bet that there's always an interest at those features.

It will now depend on the proper execution of those ideas and how can you attract users to your site amid the big competition between poker sites today.

Actually, even without knowing what's the pulse of the community, why not start working on those right now and gamble for it. The target audiences aren't just lurking here in the community so you might not get enough references based on comments.

We can't see the result without engaging it in actual. As you have mentioned, you are an experienced gambler so you might have an idea if those features you have mentioned will catch the interest of the community. Best of luck!

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December 21, 2020, 08:08:45 PM
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There are too many poker games here and in fact, there's an active thread here who had a poker tournament and I think the features that you have mentioned above are interesting if you also add some promotions.

That was mentioned above, it's a big competition if you also run a poker site here since there are already those who run poker games and set tournaments but who knows if you will try. Lurking gamblers to play and stay at your gambling site is not quite easy as of now, you need cath their interest with an exchange of something that can easy to use.

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December 22, 2020, 11:47:28 AM
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I dont plan to make another online poker room. My idea is to make a site where users can buy action from tournament players. Staking is similar to crowdfunding, users are buying shares in % and incase a player gets in prizemoney  the users get his $.

I thought about presenting some players here and start it small to see how the community reacts. Would you buy some Action?

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I dont plan to make another online poker room. My idea is to make a site where users can buy action from tournament players.
From one side people here like online poker games from the other hand don't like playing poker, depending on the game you offer.

So, have you created a poker gambling room site, what you need to understand is that this is a forum, so your reputation here must be guaranteed if you create an online gambling site, in essence: honestly don't ever deceive the members and be transparent, also about the tournament that must be really fair in the game.
If you start and end well, I think the members here will likely judge your poker game and tournament.

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December 22, 2020, 05:04:58 PM
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Many will be interested to it for sure especially if they can gain something from it like in rakeback deals. Are you offering a decent percentage of rakeback that we cannot get from other poker platforms.

I am not really familiar with poker staking so it will be good if you can just drop the full details about it and for us to have a better understanding on it. And lastly, I am a little bit puzzled, are you offering your service here like poker coaching and etc?
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December 22, 2020, 06:03:23 PM
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I dont plan to make another online poker room. My idea is to make a site where users can buy action from tournament players.
From one side people here like online poker games from the other hand don't like playing poker, depending on the game you offer.

So, have you created a poker gambling room site, what you need to understand is that this is a forum, so your reputation here must be guaranteed if you create an online gambling site, in essence: honestly don't ever deceive the members and be transparent, also about the tournament that must be really fair in the game.
If you start and end well, I think the members here will likely judge your poker game and tournament.

If it has been provided, I think the public will be happy with the best poker as attractive as possible in other features so that people judge whether they like it or not.

And it is also true that honesty and fairness in gambling must be transparent so that everyone knows that your idea is very interesting and liked by the community, this forum will be a good promotion where you have run what gambling site you think of, but remember not make a mistake with fraud it can be a big mistake, if the OP has a good idea then do it for sure there will be many people who support it.

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December 22, 2020, 07:07:30 PM
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Many will be interested to it for sure especially if they can gain something from it like in rakeback deals. Are you offering a decent percentage of rakeback that we cannot get from other poker platforms.

I am not really familiar with poker staking so it will be good if you can just drop the full details about it and for us to have a better understanding on it. And lastly, I am a little bit puzzled, are you offering your service here like poker coaching and etc?
I don't know why OP have to ask those questions but I'm sure lots of interest in those OP had mentioned.
There are gamblers all over the world that would like to be part of those in the list.

I think OP is somewhat gathering some information here or so but anyway, gambling industry is a big business so no matter what you ask for there's always someone willing to do it. And this pandemic is just a hindrance to the gambling industry but it will soon be done thanks to the vaccine.

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So if I understand this correctly, you want crowdfunding for yourself or other tournament players to compete in tournaments and if you or these players win .... the people who pitched in to make it happen.. will then receive a percentage of the winnings?

How are you going to get people to invest in you or these players, if you are not going to identify yourself or these players? Why have you left the tournament scene? .... I hope I understand this correctly?

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I think that if you want to be successful in poker you should start doing some online tournaments with some prizes in satoshis, now you should take advantage of much more that the market is in good position, many players will want to play to win. When tournaments are done online, it attracts players a lot.

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Many will be interested to it for sure especially if they can gain something from it like in rakeback deals. Are you offering a decent percentage of rakeback that we cannot get from other poker platforms.

I am not really familiar with poker staking so it will be good if you can just drop the full details about it and for us to have a better understanding on it. And lastly, I am a little bit puzzled, are you offering your service here like poker coaching and etc?

I am in contact with agents who are offering the best rakeback deals for ggpoker and partypoker. If there is any interest anyone can pm me and i will build up a connection with them. All the rakeback will get paid direct the poker accounts on mondays. The only requirement that your account is not already affiliated.

Regarding staking, players will post their schedules-lists of tournaments that are going to get played. I though about creating a discord channel for better communications between backers-investors and players. Poker coaching can be requested from those players who you invest in as extra service.

I do offer coaching, contact me if you are interested.

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So if I understand this correctly, you want crowdfunding for yourself or other tournament players to compete in tournaments and if you or these players win .... the people who pitched in to make it happen.. will then receive a percentage of the winnings?

How are you going to get people to invest in you or these players, if you are not going to identify yourself or these players? Why have you left the tournament scene? .... I hope I understand this correctly?


Exactly, i want to gain some interest and trust by this community for future projects.

All players are going to identify and leave there personal information and copy of id to avoid scams. But in general i plan only to add trusted players who are known in the community and have positive financial/backing history. I didnt leave im still active and have won the last 5 years i just dont play fulltime anymore.
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I think that if you want to be successful in poker you should start doing some online tournaments with some prizes in satoshis, now you should take advantage of much more that the market is in good position, many players will want to play to win. When tournaments are done online, it attracts players a lot.

Good thing if Op will do it, but it needs enough funds to capitalize the promotional method specially when it comes to online tournament. That needs strong security as hackers would likely going to breach the system and possible results hacking tends to initiate. Though it attracts more potential players, system preparation is quite costly because that needs skilled service desk programmer who's an expert in terms of handling website engine that caters crypto gambling.
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Hello everyone,

Online poker traffic is growing during the covid19 pandemic. Formats like tournaments are becoming
very attractive, sites are running huge series with big prizes to win and a lot of recreational players,
beginners and traditional casino players are joining. In addition some sites added cryptocurrencies as
deposit and withdraw options.

It would be great if i find some support:

Is there any interest in:

a) poker staking? short-/longterm, cashgames/tournaments
b) rakeback deals -casinos
c) cashback deals -ewallets
d) poker coaching?

Thank you!

Hi,

The traffic is up, but mostly on MTTs and Spins where you can find a lof of casual players.
SnGs are nearly dead ($15+) and reg infested, Cash is close.

a) Show us some Sharkscope and other results.

If you don't have what to show, try your luck in GGPoker. It has build-in staking where everyone can buy/offer pieces of the action.

b) Google
c) Google
d) General coaching - Run it Once. Specific - by player pools/staking programs, as Team65, SmartSpin, etc.

Good luck

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December 23, 2020, 03:07:45 AM
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I dont plan to make another online poker room. My idea is to make a site where users can buy action from tournament players. Staking is similar to crowdfunding, users are buying shares in % and incase a player gets in prizemoney  the users get his $.
I thought about presenting some players here and start it small to see how the community reacts. Would you buy some Action?
Thank you
thats right . like everyone else talking , poker sites or poker rooms are now already existed and it wont be really a good idea if you add on them if you dont offer something new but your new idea is great i liked it even if i only have a little knowledge in poker but with the help poker staking i think that could help me earn a good profit because i am not rellying on my own skill but pro players are gonna play for me and since i mention that im a beginner , poker coaching would be a perfect service for me and did i mention i like cashback and rakebacks too ?
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I dont plan to make another online poker room. My idea is to make a site where users can buy action from tournament players. Staking is similar to crowdfunding, users are buying shares in % and incase a player gets in prizemoney  the users get his $.

cool. i used to stake and be staked back in the online poker boom days. sounds great tbh. i'd love to see a venue for buying pieces of tourney players.

are you talking about a site where you curate players and we back them? or one where anyone can present their stats and be staked?

how would tournament funding work? how secure would stakers' money be? how do you make sure staked players don't stiff you?

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December 23, 2020, 06:03:59 AM
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I've seen you posted on the same topic for poker staking. On this thread: Staking at CoinPoker.

Have you contacted the OP of that topic and already in negotiations? he has replied to you his discord.

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This pandemic makes people stay at their home and do their work from home.
People who play poker game search for the poker online, and they see a poker site which using crypto for placing the bet, so they try to buy crypto and use it for gamble.
I think you want to offers a service to people who search for lessons, coaching, or other things related to poker. If that so, maybe you can share the details of what kind of services you want or do you want to search such services here? If yes, then I think you should forget it and try to search by yourself because I am afraid that you can get a scam by those people.

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Hello everyone,

Online poker traffic is growing during the covid19 pandemic. Formats like tournaments are becoming
very attractive, sites are running huge series with big prizes to win and a lot of recreational players,
beginners and traditional casino players are joining. In addition some sites added cryptocurrencies as
deposit and withdraw options.
The growth rate of the online poker/casino user is the reason why some government increased the tax rate of online gambling site and this furthermore somehow help Bitcoin to again more patronage and exposure in the institutions. But are you a poker training service cause I dont understand what you really offer in the (d) section.

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December 23, 2020, 10:28:09 AM
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Many will be interested to it for sure especially if they can gain something from it like in rakeback deals. Are you offering a decent percentage of rakeback that we cannot get from other poker platforms.
Many will be interested in it especially during this Christmas season where people need some fund for the holidays but the rakeback deals or the money is not what important if the interested participants winning chance is not guarantee cause what i see here is people making trading judgment basis on a strange decision.

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I am in contact with agents who are offering the best rakeback deals for ggpoker and partypoker. If there is any interest anyone can pm me and i will build up a connection with them. All the rakeback will get paid direct the poker accounts on mondays. The only requirement that your account is not already affiliated.
If i understand this part very well then you'll be the one that will get the affiliate reward for very new user thats interested?

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cool. i used to stake and be staked back in the online poker boom days. sounds great tbh. i'd love to see a venue for buying pieces of tourney players.

are you talking about a site where you curate players and we back them? or one where anyone can present their stats and be staked?

how would tournament funding work? how secure would stakers' money be? how do you make sure staked players don't stiff you?

Nice to hear mate, yeah me and my team are developing a website where players can list there staking offers. Players will have a profile where they have to present their results, winrates and references. There will be a voting system and all payments are based on cryptocurrencies or fiat through ewallets like skrill.

At the beginning i though about posting daily tournament schedules. For example a player has posted 10x Tournaments and the average Buy-In is 100$ so its a total package of 1000$. Since the player is a winning player he will put on some Mark-Up. So lets say the player has a ROI of 40% on the tournaments he posted. A fair Mark-Up would be somewhere around 25%, so 1000$*1.25=1250$. Now backers can buy shares, 10% would be 125$ etc. If the player wins 10000$ the backer wins 1000$, a profit of 875$.

Well aslong there is no website, backers will straight fund the player after his package gets sold off. In first place there will be reservations, after its clear that the package is going to be sold off backers transfer their funds, before the start of tournaments. After it is all about trust, there is no security that the player isnt going to scam. But as i said before we go public i am going to sell my packages to gain trust from the community. Selectively i going to add trusted and profitable players, randoms or beginners wont be the case.

I will create a discord channel today and you can check out the schedule for sunday.
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If you do nothing with the bitcoin, and leave it in your wallet, then it is actually a kind of gambling. You wouldn't even need a gambling site for that. Maybe you can also bet somewhere on the expected price or closing price of the Bitcoin on the last day of the year? Or in other measuring points.

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I’m easily enticed by cashback and rakeback deals. It somehow ensures that my stay in the casino is prolonged and I would have a lot of play time, which is really good for me as a customer and for the platform as they are providing me a good reason as to why should I stay with them. Pair that with a nice bit of games to be had and you get another degenerate on the regular.

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December 23, 2020, 11:55:50 AM
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I've seen you posted on the same topic for poker staking. On this thread: Staking at CoinPoker.

Have you contacted the OP of that topic and already in negotiations? he has replied to you his discord.

No so far we didnt speak.
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Hey, my goal is to find out if the crypto community is interested in those topics i mentioned above.
Me and my team are working on a site similar to youstake.com, where payments are made in cryptos with lower fees and couple unique features.

Besides that im a longtime player who converted from a full time to a series player a couple years ago.

If you want to make a good poker website, it's likely that you'll be able to gather some interested people, but somehow poker is not extremely popular in the crypto community. Way more people are placing bets on sports or playing slots than poker, I believe. I judge from the number of people that join poker tournaments and a lack of good websites offering poker (there are only a couple to mention), but the lack of discussions about it not being enough. In that case it's good that your idea is not about a poker room, but rather something else with people financing players of the tournaments if I got it right. While there are good players here, they probably wouldn't enjoy the idea of providing identification. Besides, they are known for their forum names, not the real ones. But perhaps it's possible to work something out with signed messages or personal passwords, I don't know.

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Have observed a couple of crypto poker tournaments in this forum and on other sites and the biggest issue I felt is the entry fee which is usually way higher when compared to other popular crypto casino games.

This usually deters many crypto gamblers. Also, poker is a complicated game which many newbie gamblers have a tough time understanding.

Maybe you can also bet somewhere on the expected price or closing price of the Bitcoin on the last day of the year? Or in other measuring points.
You can already do this on certain sites like Fairlay etc where their are markets for predicting popular cryptocurrency prices like BTC, ETH, LTC etc at different points of time.

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December 23, 2020, 08:09:36 PM
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Hello everyone,

Online poker traffic is growing during the covid19 pandemic. Formats like tournaments are becoming
very attractive, sites are running huge series with big prizes to win and a lot of recreational players,
beginners and traditional casino players are joining. In addition some sites added cryptocurrencies as
deposit and withdraw options.

It would be great if i find some support:

Is there any interest in:

a) poker staking? short-/longterm, cashgames/tournaments
b) rakeback deals -casinos
c) cashback deals -ewallets
d) poker coaching?

Thank you!

I think that a, b and c may already be covered by existing sites, so it may be tough for you to gain a sizable market share in the poker ecosystem even if there is significant interest from the community..

Coaching is definitely something that would be interesting if you could integrate it into your site though.

It will all come down to execution though, one way or another. Your ideas are decent but it will take great marketing and developing to maximise its potential.
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Hello everyone,

Online poker traffic is growing during the covid19 pandemic. Formats like tournaments are becoming
very attractive, sites are running huge series with big prizes to win and a lot of recreational players,
beginners and traditional casino players are joining. In addition some sites added cryptocurrencies as
deposit and withdraw options.

It would be great if i find some support:

Is there any interest in:

a) poker staking? short-/longterm, cashgames/tournaments
b) rakeback deals -casinos
c) cashback deals -ewallets
d) poker coaching?

Thank you!

I think that a, b and c may already be covered by existing sites, so it may be tough for you to gain a sizable market share in the poker ecosystem even if there is significant interest from the community..

Coaching is definitely something that would be interesting if you could integrate it into your site though.

It will all come down to execution though, one way or another. Your ideas are decent but it will take great marketing and developing to maximise its potential.
i think poker tournament and cash game is seperated on a.) poker staking  and should have its own letter ( letter b.) ) . its the poker tournament is the one that every poker site had but not all that have this have a poker staking option on them but rakeback and cashback are everywhere , both are the same and can be merge on one letter ( letter c.) )and the last one is coaching is the newest of them all . it wont need a great or big marketing for new stuffs because poker players are going to find it interesting .
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Hey everyone, thank you for your support!

I created a discord channel for all who are interested in staking and coaching. Feel free to join and ask about the topics i mentioned.

https://discord.gg/uP23sRJkvW

I wish all a happy and healthy christmas days.

Take care
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December 24, 2020, 06:24:53 AM
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I've seen you posted on the same topic for poker staking. On this thread: Staking at CoinPoker.

Have you contacted the OP of that topic and already in negotiations? he has replied to you his discord.

No so far we didnt speak.
He has given you his contact maybe he has something good to offer and in favor of you.

You're more experienced that me with negotiations through staking so good luck dealing with that guy.

Hey everyone, thank you for your support!

I created a discord channel for all who are interested in staking and coaching. Feel free to join and ask about the topics i mentioned.

https://discord.gg/uP23sRJkvW

I wish all a happy and healthy christmas days.

Take care
This is a good initiative, interested gamblers who wants to have idea and even newbies can join this if they want to know more about poker and services you offer.

Happy Christmas and Happy holidays to you too.

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December 24, 2020, 07:30:54 AM
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Looks like you are interested in creating a casino where people can play poker. You won't be able to know what people wants unless you make one. Sure, taking suggestion from here might help, but opinions of few people won't speak for the majority.
Start a poker site. Create a userbase and add different rewards and incentives. See which one most of the people likes and keep that one. Trying different reward system won't hurt you.
Is there any interest in:

a) poker staking? short-/longterm, cashgames/tournaments
b) rakeback deals -casinos
c) cashback deals -ewallets
d) poker coaching?

Thank you!
I would guess people would prefer rake back deals more than cashback. I doubt anyone would want a "poker coach".

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December 24, 2020, 02:14:46 PM
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Im not interested in creating another online casino, i want to help existing poker players in this community.

Beyond that, i want to gain trust and offer attractive staking investments.

Now we need some action in that discord channel.

Merry christmas!
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December 24, 2020, 07:42:01 PM
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Well aslong there is no website, backers will straight fund the player after his package gets sold off. In first place there will be reservations, after its clear that the package is going to be sold off backers transfer their funds, before the start of tournaments. After it is all about trust, there is no security that the player isnt going to scam. But as i said before we go public i am going to sell my packages to gain trust from the community. Selectively i going to add trusted and profitable players, randoms or beginners wont be the case.

fair enough, that's how p2p "buy a piece" staking has always worked, but i wonder how many stakers you'll find specifically outside of a poker community and on a site like bitcointalk, since players generally won't have have a reputation here.

when i used to stake on 2+2 back in the day, it was not just a matter of showing sharkscope stats, but also a matter of being established enough on the forum to be trusted with staker funds. that's the potential deficit i see here. and without a deep pool of potential stakers, staked players may have trouble consistently charging a decent mark-up and selling all their pieces.

you might have better luck garnering interest on 2+2 or cardschat. bitcoin gamblers are pretty degen---mostly bettors, dice players, etc and less poker players around here.

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December 24, 2020, 11:28:49 PM
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Hey everyone, thank you for your support!

I created a discord channel for all who are interested in staking and coaching. Feel free to join and ask about the topics i mentioned.

https://discord.gg/uP23sRJkvW

What skill level are you targeting for poker coaching? Is it a p2p system whereby coaches can connect with their students, or is there a central provider of a course by your organisation?

If it's primarily targeted to beginner - intermediate and prices are reasonable I'd definitely be interested. I'm a novice at poker but I've been trying to learn over this holiday season.
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December 25, 2020, 03:14:01 PM
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I think many clients would be interested in learning to play poker. The game is intellectual and requires good knowledge and memory if a person seriously decided to learn how to play. And you can't just get such knowledge, you need good teachers. If you can provide training at a decent level, then this is a wonderful idea.
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December 28, 2020, 01:48:20 PM
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I believe there is a good demand on what you mention. Online poker is great choice for gamblers nowadays, the number of gamblers looking for online poker platform probably increased. Its best that Poker platform should grab this chance to attract players by offering unique services.
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