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December 23, 2020, 01:09:28 PM
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More and more companies are getting into holding of bitcoin. In the past large scale companies invested on bitcoin and those details were kept confidential. Nowadays everything is revealed to the outer world, and the same has made more and more companies invest on bitcoin. Some centralized firms prioritise bitcoin as reserve considering the growth of bitcoin.

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December 23, 2020, 01:11:32 PM
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Let them hold as much as they want... Less bitcoin in circulation means higher prices... Also, i'm not sure if an exchange actually legally "owns" the coins in their hot and cold wallets... I guess legally they belong to their clients, eventough the exchange has complete controll over them them

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December 23, 2020, 01:29:58 PM
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All I just know is that the biginning of institutional investors investing in bitcoin just started, with the way I see it, there will soon be a year when more investors will join which are going to be intlstitutions. This year has been a clear evidence of the evolution of institutions getting knowing more about bitcoin while the years that will proceed will have more of them which will lead to more world adoption of bitcoin. Without doubt, we can seen how this year has been in favour of bitcoin, although not only by institutions but we see how institutional whales really helped.

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December 23, 2020, 02:14:16 PM
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Day by day more and more new company interested buy bitcoin, and come big investor investment bitcoin. It's very good for future bitcoin price

I agree with you...The more investors of bitcoin, the higher will be the value of it.  Mass adoption of bitcoin is really increasing and because of this new ATH of bitcoin, it continue attracting big companies, millionaires, billionaires and celebrities to join the bitcoins evolution.

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December 23, 2020, 02:22:39 PM
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The more bitcoin they hold, the higher the price of bitcoin will be. it is the result of less circulation on the market. Days by days, I always hear news of companies that continue to buy bitcoin with a large number (such as 1000 to 20000 at a time). This is surely what we need to make bitcoin becomes more important and fascinating to the people

However, I wonder that can we consider them as whales? What if they decide to sell-off their bitcoin at once? It will be a nightmare for the crypto world if they do that since no one wants to witness 2017 2.0 when most of the people lost their money. Honestly, I still believe in those companies that they will continue to amass bitcoin at a great scale because there is no good to sell bitcoin at the moment. $100000 can be our next target in the next 2 years. But right now, we need to hit $30000 first

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December 23, 2020, 02:59:34 PM
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It's a good thing, right?
I don't know if that suits traders too.  Cheesy

I guess they just changed their assets into bitcoin and sold the others.
The good news is these companies will keep on holding it if it's for asset reasons. In that case, we won't see BTC falling way backward again like what happened at the start of 2018.
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It's so good that Bitcoin is getting so much mainstream and public and government attention which it deserves. Quite recently Elon Musk even posted a meme featuring Bitcoin as seducing lmao, and I'm quite sure one day Tesla will itself provide its employees salary through Bitcoin Wink But yeah, if the company starts to hold large volume of bitcoins instead of distributing them, that will actually make the value of the coin go up but only for short term as demand increases but at the end it will dump.
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December 23, 2020, 03:30:42 PM
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It's so good that Bitcoin is getting so much mainstream and public and government attention which it deserves. Quite recently Elon Musk even posted a meme featuring Bitcoin as seducing lmao, and I'm quite sure one day Tesla will itself provide its employees salary through Bitcoin Wink

I am afraid that the huge demand from companies and institutional investor will make it harder for the ordinary guy to invest in bitcoins. I mean für everyone who has already a big portfolio or is mining coins himself it's good news. But for people who want to get into bitcoins at the moment, it's getting more and more expensive.
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December 23, 2020, 04:03:02 PM
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there are more 18,500,000 bitcoins in circulation right now which means there are a lot of people who own all these bitcoins that the sum is 18.5 million.
a handful of companies owning a very tiny amount of bitcoin in comparison doesn't really mean much. the only significance of this story is that finally after 11 years some companies are realizing the power that bitcoin has and are trying to get in while we are still in early stages of adoption.

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December 23, 2020, 04:06:16 PM
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This proves that bitcoin mass adoption is just getting started, that it might be the reason why bitcoin's price is currently stable at more than $20,000. But many people are still afraid of holding and buying bitcoin because anytime bitcoin's price can suddenly make a huge downfall, just like what happened the last year of 2017; that is why many investors who recently buy bitcoin that time lost a considerable amount of profit.

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December 23, 2020, 04:10:05 PM
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this seems to be the new standard of 2020 and more companies seems focused in this activity!
what a change after all these years!
You can have a live outlook https://bitcointreasuries.org/  here of all companies that actually have bought some bitcoin.
(around 4% of total supply!)

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December 23, 2020, 04:21:26 PM
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This proves that bitcoin mass adoption is just getting started

Companies holding bitcoin doesnt mean anything close to mass adoption. Mass adoption means adopting the blockchain technologies and put it in their daily practices and stuff. That also means the majority will be using bitcoin / cryptocurrency in their day to day transaction . This is the real meaning of mass adoption and not just some companies holding bitcoin

that is why many investors who recently buy bitcoin that time lost a considerable amount of profit.

Everyone speculate on cryptocurrency because of its price and thats normal. It doesnt means all those investors believe in cryptocurrency, they simply in here because of the profit that they will be making

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After 2018, the collapse of Bitcoin plunged the market into a catastrophe like the current global economy. The COVID-19 Crisis has fueled Bitcoin and its value to humans. Currently the price of Bitcoin is rising as well as its users have increased. The company has previously held Bitcoin but did not want to disclose. They have just expressed confidence that the price of Bitcoin was increased to 20000+.
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December 23, 2020, 05:05:47 PM
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Bitcoin shortages everywhere, that's what I like. These massive superfunds holding many btc are emptying the market and for those who hold everything is working according to plan.
I can't believe this is really happening.
OP where was the img taken from?
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People need to be careful of what they wish for, if this institution start accumulating more and more Bitcoin, it would be out of reach for average Joe and the idea that Users control Bitcoin will not hold again, Bitcoin need to be widely distributed, just look at what is happening to Altcoins and you will understand how bad things can be for Bitcoin when all these VC's start to influence decision making


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December 23, 2020, 09:12:13 PM
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^ The reason behind that is Bitcoin is the best way for them to control their company funds. You have to realize that these companies use other people’s money for their business and that’s actually the reason why they are companies.
So, if you’re one executive I guess you have to find ways how to earn from your own company. And convert your company’s money to yours as both are different entities. Nevertheless, executives are trying to score with their company’s funds. That’s why their company’s cash is invested in bitcoin.
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December 23, 2020, 09:20:18 PM
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People need to be careful of what they wish for, if this institution start accumulating more and more Bitcoin, it would be out of reach for average Joe and the idea that Users control Bitcoin will not hold again, Bitcoin need to be widely distributed, just look at what is happening to Altcoins and you will understand how bad things can be for Bitcoin when all these VC's start to influence decision making
To be honest even in the current price average Joe in other country would have a hard time accumulating 1 BTC since it is already too much.
And isn't it a good thing that the price is going up and more company are going into it?
The price would stay high because of them and we don't really need to have 1 whole or more BTC on us we just need what we can afford and what we can have,
We don't need to force ourselve's if we couldn't afford it.

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It could actually be quite damaging to Bitcoin in the long run as more of it consolidates into the ownership of just a few companies/people. They will essentially be able to sway the market whenever they feel like it and also make it much harder to people to acquire a whole Bitcoin, somewhat removing the allure of it for the average person. We might be moving into an age where Bitcoin is more of a novelty item to show off between the super rich, rather than a usable currency unit with many outlets accepting it.

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December 23, 2020, 09:33:15 PM
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Let them hold as much as they want... Less bitcoin in circulation means higher prices... Also, i'm not sure if an exchange actually legally "owns" the coins in their hot and cold wallets... I guess legally they belong to their clients, eventough the exchange has complete controll over them them

There should be at least some classification an actual company that really holds and own their coins and to those platforms that do owns but those came from their users.Its a different category so there should be
some separate list to avoid confusions but for the sake of demonstration of numbers then having this infographic isnt a bad show either.

Letting them hold as much as they can could really make less coin in circulation which would really result into higher or valuable price but we know on what would be the con's out of this
is on when these companies to decide to release their stashes.

They would really be giving out some significant impact on the entire market but if these companies are holding for long term then this shouldnt really be a problem FOR NOW.

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Honestly I'd love to know if how long they are already holding, and is there a way to verify their holdings like an address where we can check and monitor if we want. These are big companies who believe in bitcoin's potential, so they'll hold, but the question is, are they are into "HODL" or "HOLD" only?

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I don't know why people are celebrating this? I think this is a pretty bad thing which should stop as soon as possible. In the lure of getting higher prices what we people are not realizing is that these companies are just mine bombs. If a single company like Grayscale decides to sell up all their crypto investments or leave all even if they decide to sell 10% of their total investments together the price would go to ruins? Aren't we hampering the sole purpose of bitcoin that is it's decentralization? We all know that how these corporates have always manipulated the fiat world I don't know why people are happy giving them the key to manipulating the crypto world too.
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Let them hold as much as they want... Less bitcoin in circulation means higher prices... Also, i'm not sure if an exchange actually legally "owns" the coins in their hot and cold wallets... I guess legally they belong to their clients, eventough the exchange has complete controll over them them

There should be at least some classification an actual company that really holds and own their coins and to those platforms that do owns but those came from their users.Its a different category so there should be
some separate list to avoid confusions but for the sake of demonstration of numbers then having this infographic isnt a bad show either.

Letting them hold as much as they can could really make less coin in circulation which would really result into higher or valuable price but we know on what would be the con's out of this
is on when these companies to decide to release their stashes.

They would really be giving out some significant impact on the entire market but if these companies are holding for long term then this shouldnt really be a problem FOR NOW.

I think the purpose of the chart is just to have an idea how much btc they have. Though the numbers maybe just approximate as we don't know exactly the numbers, still good to know how much these private companies are holding. But we don't know also if they are selling some of their holdings. We will not know that info unless, they will divulge it to the public. We don't know also their btc addresses to verify such claims.
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Those companies sees the importance of Bitcoin and don’t want to be left behind and honestly, this is one of my reason why I loved Bitcoin that much because it is being supported by many companies. I know that some are still afraid that those companies might control Bitcoin but since this is a decentralized market, no matter how big their holdings are they can’t still control the market.

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not a small amount, 10k bitcoins are held by institutions, of course they are not just buying,
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Its amazing seeing this kind of statistics on how many bitcoin an entity owns and with what i see now coupled with its value, its really huge and with more and more companies looking to invest mean while, we are struggling to own even 1BTC. This lives me to wonder why as a bitcoin enthusiast, any user here wont have some volume of bitcoin! Any user here who has been around for a while and doesn't have a few bitcoin isn't really supposed to be here.
Having an accurate statistics on companies such as these and watching them closely could give you an idea on how to trade the Bitcoin pair market because, these are market movers. Its just my speculation though.

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A holding game for most of us. If these big companies are holding then we should do the same. We'll get to notice if they will start dumping it at once, the price will definitely react.
But as of the moment, while most of them holds, we should also accumulate while they do. The supply in the circulation are getting lesser this time because they're also competing to take most of the newly minted coins and they are on a "keep on buying" process.
Honestly I'd love to know if how long they are already holding, and is there a way to verify their holdings like an address where we can check and monitor if we want. These are big companies who believe in bitcoin's potential, so they'll hold, but the question is, are they are into "HODL" or "HOLD" only?
They are not on the rich list because the highest that I've seen is 168k bitcoins on 99bitcoins. I don't understand the difference of hodl and hold, they're the same right or what's the context with that quote?

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not a small amount, 10k bitcoins are held by institutions, of course they are not just buying,
they believe bitcoin in the future, maybe the price of Bitcoin will be more than $ 100k,
and it can happen I would say "amazing! '.

Definitely, they are also buying bitcoin as an hedge as well, and what better to put your money in an asset like bitcoin that will give you x amount of returns in like 1-3 years. And I would say that this companies really knows the advantage of having bitcoin in their portfolio.

That's why the whole narrative of bitcoin has change dramatically after the pandemic scare that pull the price to $3k. Now institutions are seeing bitcoin as the best asset, although still very volatile and speculative, but historically, the success rate of bitcoin is very high.

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It's so good that Bitcoin is getting so much mainstream and public and government attention which it deserves. Quite recently Elon Musk even posted a meme featuring Bitcoin as seducing lmao, and I'm quite sure one day Tesla will itself provide its employees salary through Bitcoin Wink

I am afraid that the huge demand from companies and institutional investor will make it harder for the ordinary guy to invest in bitcoins. I mean für everyone who has already a big portfolio or is mining coins himself it's good news. But for people who want to get into bitcoins at the moment, it's getting more and more expensive.


This is not impossible to happen as more and more companies are starting hold Bitcoin, the supplies are getting scarce. The price of Bitcoin had climbed up several companies just a few months ago started accumulating Bitcoin since they are starting to see it's potential long-term. This will start to become a hoarding game, as more companies are starting to buy bulks of Bitcoin for long-term purposes.
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Good thing, isn't it? Though most of them are companies that are associated with blockchain and crypto currencies, I do see some that are regular companies. I assume MicroStrategy is one of them right? And shouldn't paypal be in the list too since it is "paypal" that is holding the coins not their users.
At least those companies know that holding bitcoin is going to be a huge benefit for them and knows the future is going to give them huge profits.

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December 24, 2020, 09:04:24 AM
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I don't know why people are celebrating this? I think this is a pretty bad thing which should stop as soon as possible. In the lure of getting higher prices what we people are not realizing is that these companies are just mine bombs. If a single company like Grayscale decides to sell up all their crypto investments or leave all even if they decide to sell 10% of their total investments together the price would go to ruins? Aren't we hampering the sole purpose of bitcoin that is it's decentralization? We all know that how these corporates have always manipulated the fiat world I don't know why people are happy giving them the key to manipulating the crypto world too.

That's assuming that they actually own 100% of those Bitcoins instead of just holding those Bitcoins for the users. Also, it's not like Bitcoin would die. Bitcoin has been tested countless of times so you should know that Bitcoin is resilient. Well in the future (probably 20 years or so?), we really don't have to worry much because I'm pretty sure that Bitcoin would be spread across different users by that time.
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December 24, 2020, 12:33:04 PM
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Let them hold as much as they want... Less bitcoin in circulation means higher prices... Also, i'm not sure if an exchange actually legally "owns" the coins in their hot and cold wallets... I guess legally they belong to their clients, eventough the exchange has complete controll over them them

We can discuss whether something is actually mine if someone else has the absolute control to deny it to me at any time for any reason. If we were to conclude that the real owner of BTC is the one who has control over the private keys, then it is clear who is the real owner and who just thinks he is the owner.

As far as I know all these big companies keep their BTC in custodial wallets, and I think some don't even have another choice because it has to be that way by law. I hope they understand how much risk there is, and that it's not the same to store crypto and fiat - stolen/lost BTC can't just (or at all) be replaced.

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I don't know why people are celebrating this? I think this is a pretty bad thing which should stop as soon as possible. In the lure of getting higher prices what we people are not realizing is that these companies are just mine bombs. If a single company like Grayscale decides to sell up all their crypto investments or leave all even if they decide to sell 10% of their total investments together the price would go to ruins? Aren't we hampering the sole purpose of bitcoin that is it's decentralization? We all know that how these corporates have always manipulated the fiat world I don't know why people are happy giving them the key to manipulating the crypto world too.

That's assuming that they actually own 100% of those Bitcoins instead of just holding those Bitcoins for the users. Also, it's not like Bitcoin would die. Bitcoin has been tested countless of times so you should know that Bitcoin is resilient. Well in the future (probably 20 years or so?), we really don't have to worry much because I'm pretty sure that Bitcoin would be spread across different users by that time.
Oh yeah they are holding it for users? How convenient does it sounds to you? You know they all have their servers and locations in countries like Cayman Islands which are popular for making anyone immune. One vulnerability in any of the system of these companies could mean a big disaster. Moreover the countless tests you mentioned were when we didn't had much of an adoption. Moreover 10 years is too young of an age for any security it has seen merely one major low after a mass adoption.
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December 24, 2020, 02:16:23 PM
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There will be more and more companies will hold bitcoin as their alternative investment, since bitcoin touch it's new ATH it will bring more attention to other companies. I cant wait what will happen to bitcoin in the next year. but since companies hold big amount of bitcoins we will face big dump later if they decide to sell all their bitcoins and we will need time to recover from that.   

I don't see these "companies" that you're talking about will be selling their Btc's at this current price range. If you're aware, institutional investors are coming in to the market, and that means crypto investors are gradually rising each and every year, as well as Bitcoin has been rising every year. So, why would you be afraid of the dump? When in the first place, Btc has always been dumped from the past after a huge run.

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This is pretty amazing because if more and more companies are going to invest in Bitcoin like aquiring thousands of em I think that is bad news for the ordinary people because it will soon be so expensive to buy just a fraction. Supply is getting scarce and price will soon explode.



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December 24, 2020, 05:05:28 PM
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I would have to say it is both good and bad. I can't lean on just one side because it is not really just one sided deal, it has its great deals but it has bad stuff with it as well. The bad part is obvious, giving this much power over to some companies would mean that they could change the price however they want whenever they want, they could dump all the coins they have and the price would go down more than half, which I assume they realize and would probably do OTC part by part instead of doing it all on market price but it is still risky to give this much power over bitcoin price to some companies.

The good part is different though, the good part is that this is proof that big companies are interested in bitcoin as well and we always wanted mass adoption didn't we? This is the right step towards those days where billionaires are interested in bitcoin.

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December 24, 2020, 05:45:06 PM
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They already realize its potential long time ago now they are more open about their investments and bragging their holdings. Next year more and more companies will begin to bag their crypto investments, companies are now fomoing far from 2017 pump.
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Let them hold as much as they want... Less bitcoin in circulation means higher prices... Also, i'm not sure if an exchange actually legally "owns" the coins in their hot and cold wallets... I guess legally they belong to their clients, eventough the exchange has complete controll over them them

a pattern like this is clear. it is impossible if each platform does not have specific clients to play with their assets. this is part of maintaining the exchange platform to become a competitor in the market. even when there is some kind of massive increase in crypto, say crypto A, which suddenly exceeds 100% of the volume, there is often maintenance. in fact, it gave their clients ample scope to make huge profits under the pretext of undergoing system maintenance.

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If Grayscale is on the list, then why not Coinbase and every other centralized exchange? Coinbase holds close to 1 million bitcoins, other exchange hold over a hundred thousand coins. But still we can see that the vast majority of coins is held by private holders. So, in case someone is worried that Bitcoin's supply becomes more centralized, it's still to early to worry about that, especially since Bitcoin is so divisible, and it's not a PoS system.

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December 24, 2020, 07:42:29 PM
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There will be more and more companies will hold bitcoin as their alternative investment, since bitcoin touch it's new ATH it will bring more attention to other companies. I cant wait what will happen to bitcoin in the next year. but since companies hold big amount of bitcoins we will face big dump later if they decide to sell all their bitcoins and we will need time to recover from that.   
the decisions they took were brilliant (making Bitcoin an back-up of company assets/funds).  they must have started buying Bitcoin a long time ago, it's not easy to make a decision like this.  going forward we will definitely see more and more companies that make Bitcoin as a fund/asset for the future of their company..

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Even after the dram happened a few years ago mtgox is still one of the biggest bitcoin holders. Since, these companies and teams are holding this huge amount of bitcoin we don't need to be worry about some people when the panic sell some bitcoins and make the price fall for a little because hold this huge amount of bitcoin is a great positive sign for bitcoin. Also, time after time, there will be more incoming companies and they hold huge amount bitcoin as investment This is one good reason to say in the next a few years, even before next halving bitcoin will reach another ATH.

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Some of the companies that you have on this image I am just seeing them for the first time. Greyscale is the one that’s very popular and everyone knows them for steady buying Bitcoin.

I once saw on this forum around the time that PayPal started accepting cryptocurrencies that they bought over seventy percent of cryptocurrencies that were mined for the month or so, I can’t really confirm whether it’s true or not, but Greyscale did buy a lot as well. And I do have this thought that it is not every company or institution that is holding Bitcoin or crypto assets is letting the world know about it, some of them might decide that it is best for them to leave it as a secret.

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That is the scenario that we do not like to happen and this is not what bitcoin is intended to be but unfortunately they have the money and they have the means soon it will become a playground of rich and multi national companies, I myself do not have one Bitcoin in my portfolio and there are thousands of people like me who can only own a fraction of Bitcoin.
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Some large company buying so many bitcoin is inevitable because there's no prevention for that. But that doesn't mean bitcoin is centralized to some company. 10K BTC is only a fraction of 21 millions bitcoin after all.
However, if company owns too much bitcoin it could also destroy the market and renders the coin worthless if people just assume that its not worth it to buy coin owned by large companies.

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Some large company buying so many bitcoin is inevitable because there's no prevention for that. But that doesn't mean bitcoin is centralized to some company. 10K BTC is only a fraction of 21 millions bitcoin after all.
However, if company owns too much bitcoin it could also destroy the market and renders the coin worthless if people just assume that its not worth it to buy coin owned by large companies.
The demand for bitcoin is too much so if a company buys a lot of bitcoin to hold it long term, of course the company just wants more to get bigger, but I don't panic about this, more holding means that scarcity is increasing so companies won't sell all they have at once so they can control the market if they have a lot of bitcoin.

Actually this is a lot full of drama and whichever company is holding a lot of bitcoin and they are still closed, it is not open so it will not drop so badly
Trust me this will increase even more especially since ATH has started to be high and the level is higher.

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December 25, 2020, 04:46:44 PM
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Some large company buying so many bitcoin is inevitable because there's no prevention for that.
uncontrollable not unavoidable . its not your money but its theirs and they can do what they want but why will us avoid them , we should rather be happy that they do that because they make the bitcoin price so lively .  no need to prevent that unless if you are a bitcoin hater and you dont want us to earn at the times where btc is at its all time high .

But that doesn't mean bitcoin is centralized to some company. 10K BTC is only a fraction of 21 millions bitcoin after all.
However, if company owns too much bitcoin it could also destroy the market and renders the coin worthless if people just assume that its not worth it to buy coin owned by large companies.
who said it centralized . no one before but you could be the first .  even if they buy such amounts of btc , btc is already the same . it was created to be decentralized . they can destroy the price of btc but not the entire market if they will sold but they will always rebuild it again . we have seen this for so many years
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December 25, 2020, 07:46:51 PM
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I wonder why they hold too much money. Perhaps they bet that the BTC price will always go up. Usually, companies that hold too much money are considered inefficient since money can be used to grow their businesses so that the returns from operational activities can be higher than returns from investing activities.

IMO if the BTC price becomes more stable, we won't see this phenomenon, as they can't just hold BTC and expect it will make their financial statements more appealing.

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December 25, 2020, 11:18:56 PM
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I wonder why they hold too much money. Perhaps they bet that the BTC price will always go up.

Some of these companies hold bitcoin as part of their investment before the price hit the ATH. Also these companies probably hold billions dollars of investors fund and holding 10k bitcoin is probably around 10% of the total investment or some sort

10K BTC is only a fraction of 21 millions bitcoin after all.

Grayscale has around 2.7 % with 579k of bitcoins though

However, if company owns too much bitcoin it could also destroy the market and renders the coin worthless

It doesnt work like that. These companies cant really sell off all their stack and call it the end of their investment. Even if they want to, They probably will only sell portions of it and keep the rest

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December 25, 2020, 11:40:30 PM
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This is the reason why Bitcoin price has risen surprisingly in a pandemic situation like now. Because it turns out that more and more
large companies are deciding to invest in Bitcoin, According to data in the opening posts of several companies, the holding is estimated
at 10,000 BTC. This is an enormous amount, especially since most large companies rarely hold assets in the short term.

Therefore the hype that occurred this year is very different from the hype that occurred in 2017. In 2020 the price of Bitcoin support is
very strong, so there is very little chance of a dump. Therefore I decided to continue to collect as much Bitcoin as possible, because
I believe the Bitcoin price will continue to rise.

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Shouldn't we worry about the same? These companies are here for profits and they can bring bloodbath whenever they want. What do your guys think?
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December 26, 2020, 03:27:26 PM
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Shouldn't we worry about the same? These companies are here for profits and they can bring bloodbath whenever they want. What do your guys think?
We should not worry about that dude, if there will be no institutional investors and who will be the party that can pump the price of bitcoin? We can't deny the fact that if bitcoin needs more and more money from institutional investors to make it goes to the moon.
There are some people also thinking about the institutional investors can monopoly the price of bitcoin but this is not true at all.

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That is the scenario that we do not like to happen and this is not what bitcoin is intended to be but unfortunately they have the money and they have the means soon it will become a playground of rich and multi national companies, I myself do not have one Bitcoin in my portfolio and there are thousands of people like me who can only own a fraction of Bitcoin.

You're right, they have the capability to buy a lot of bitcoins and it will attract more rich investors to invest and buy bitcoin also. You still lucky that you have even just a fraction of bitcoin because soon that will become a huge amount in your pocket.

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Shouldn't we worry about the same? These companies are here for profits and they can bring bloodbath whenever they want. What do your guys think?

They can but it would hard to sell everything off in one take so there is less merit for them to sell everything then keeping it.  Holding these bitcoins is probably less than 10% of their entire portfolio so if they can get 0.5% profit of their 100% portfolio by selling only small amount of bitcoins, they would do so instead of letting everything go

Even if bloodbath happens, there will always be another next companies that look into bitcoin and put it into their portfolio

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Wowza!  I knew of Grayscale and MicroStrategy holding a ton of bitcoin, but I wasn't aware of most of those other companies--and I was surprised to see the Tezos Foundation owning so much.  That's an altcoin I was interested in for a while until I finally lost enthusiasm for it.

For the publicly-traded corporations in the picture, I'm really hoping their shareholders don't get burned if bitcoin should crash (and I think we can all agree that that's a possibility).  Hopefully those shareholders are aware of the risk that companies like MSTR are taking by buying up so much bitcoin.  It's not as if it's an historically stable investment. 

And yeah, should any one of them decide to dump their BTC holdings all at once, the market might be in trouble.  If all of them were to sell at the same time, it would be absolute pandemonium.

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Some of them consider them as: Investments
Some of them are just holding them to make sure that they don't fall afar from the society since now every other person has Bitcoins now.
Not the good thing is :
It promotes bitcoins
It gives bitcoins more investments making the price more stable perse
Now the bad thing is:
They are now Whales and can make or break the price literally!! They can change the whole thing in a couple of seconds which might be bad.
Market manipulation is always a sad thing that can happen anytime.

*At the same time these are list of the institutions and companies who are comfortable in letting it known that they are holding Bitcoins but there are many more doing it but not making it public.

- We need to find a way to tackle the market manipulation!! Otherwise sooner or later it might end up bad for the small investors like us.

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December 26, 2020, 06:44:56 PM
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Shouldn't we worry about the same? These companies are here for profits and they can bring bloodbath whenever they want. What do your guys think?

They can but it would hard to sell everything off in one take so there is less merit for them to sell everything then keeping it.  Holding these bitcoins is probably less than 10% of their entire portfolio so if they can get 0.5% profit of their 100% portfolio by selling only small amount of bitcoins, they would do so instead of letting everything go

Even if bloodbath happens, there will always be another next companies that look into bitcoin and put it into their portfolio
Why we should worry about this? This companies proves that bitcoin mass adoption since they had contribute into bitcoin. I think they not going to sell this since they just saving it for the future purposes, even if they sell 5% of they bitcoin it is still big and profitable, maybe not a bloodbath well we can't tell but it can be use in illegal transaction in the dark web we wouldn't know what will the real plans for this companies as long as they have bitcoin they had plans for it in the future or maybe someday they can easily manipulate bitcoin price cap. Also it can be an eye opener to other companies to involved bitcoin into their business as well.
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Grayscale has been one if the prime mover of Bitcoin and it current rally, no wonder altcoins has been bleeding and now it's obvious they don't really care about altcoins or perhaps its not their time yet.
On a second note, I know these are coins that meant to be hold for long time but how will they sell this tons bitcoin in exchange. I have observed that whenever traders and investors see 2009 and 2010 bitcoin on the move to an exchange, they begin to panic, now I wonder what will happen to Bitcoin price when they decide to move this bitcoin to an exchange.
It will definitely happen one day Cry Kiss
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Everytime I get a news where some large-scale companies are  buying out tons and tons of cryptocurrencies, particularly bitcoin. I feel both hope and fear. Hope because this means that bitcoin is all the more becoming more and more accepted in our society compared to when it was in the past. A little bit fearing when we consider the fact that these makes them all effectively whales that could easily make the market dance at the top their hands.
You're right, they have the capability to buy a lot of bitcoins and it will attract more rich investors to invest and buy bitcoin also. You still lucky that you have even just a fraction of bitcoin because soon that will become a huge amount in your pocket.
Still a big fraction of the coin nonetheless. Or at least of what's already discovered. These coins could've fallen to the people's hands but ultimately fell into theirs. I fear the day these guys get another ground to step on the people, especially bitcoin which is meant to be the people's currency. We're going to have an Anakin moment if that happens.
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There will be more and more companies will hold bitcoin as their alternative investment, since bitcoin touch it's new ATH it will bring more attention to other companies. I cant wait what will happen to bitcoin in the next year. but since companies hold big amount of bitcoins we will face big dump later if they decide to sell all their bitcoins and we will need time to recover from that.   
the decisions they took were brilliant (making Bitcoin an back-up of company assets/funds).  they must have started buying Bitcoin a long time ago, it's not easy to make a decision like this.  going forward we will definitely see more and more companies that make Bitcoin as a fund/asset for the future of their company..
Some companies have been doing it and did you know the richest people in mexico was also investing in bitcoin since 2013. They were buying bitcoin when the price was very cheap.
They have a lot of money and i thought that they have been preparing it even since the creation of bitcoin. The only ignorance who will keep to say bitcoin as a not promising investment while the fact says the opposite thing.

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World top some company Holding 10000+ Bitcoin



I'm not familiar with some of these names on here, but Microstrategy is one of the few that actually owns the bitcoins they hold. Entries like Grayscale or Mt Gox own bitcoin on behalf of others, so there's no conclusion to be drawn from them holding it.

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This is nothing in comparison with the major casinos and exchanges and wallet providers, even thought the coins that are held with them are not their own.  Wink  (Well a lot of it, might be profit)

I know Eddie (Stake.com) mentioned that over $400 000 000 were wagered in a week at their casino and Billions of Dollars in the 2 months before the Lambo giveaway, so the amounts kept on their platform is huge. (Most are kept in cold storage and only reflected on their own in house ledger when you wager)

So the really big amounts are not even shown in the graph...  Wink

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December 27, 2020, 06:20:39 AM
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I'm not familiar with some of these names on here, but Microstrategy is one of the few that actually owns the bitcoins they hold. Entries like Grayscale or Mt Gox own bitcoin on behalf of others, so there's no conclusion to be drawn from them holding it.
We do not even know if that company really holding more than 10000 bitcoin.
Even if they claim that they holding that amount, but without showing their wallet address that holds that amount, we do not have to trust it.
Let them saying like that while we can do our business to get more bitcoin in many ways, so we do not have to miss the chance to sell bitcoin at the highest price.
I am not familiar too with that list, so I do not overthink about them because what I am concern about now is I need to make a profit in bitcoin before it is too late for me to have many bitcoin.

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That is the scenario that we do not like to happen and this is not what bitcoin is intended to be but unfortunately they have the money and they have the means soon it will become a playground of rich and multi national companies, I myself do not have one Bitcoin in my portfolio and there are thousands of people like me who can only own a fraction of Bitcoin.
Bro the amount of people that owns less than a whole bitcoin (1) is significantly far greater than those who owns more than 1 bitcoin. It's like our traditional economy where the gaps between rich and poor repeats again but this time in crypto world.
It's inevitable though when there's just no way to rule this, but honestly it doesn't matter that much when there's those altcoins as an alternative to bitcoin so that the capitals could be spread between these alts.

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I think once companies start to face right now is that many of their competitors are switching into the crypto world. Everybody reads in the news that more and more institutions are buying bitcoins. And now as a. Manager you probably start to wonder if you are falling behind if you don't do so yourself. Even if you don't fully believe in bitcoins you might atleast want to buy some coins so you are not falling behind. If one company starts all the other ones will eventually follow suit.
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I would say that is the best way to go if we want to see bitcoin becoming an investment and not a payment. I understand that there are two types of people who are into bitcoin, one of them is the type of person who would like to see bitcoin as a currency, just like dollars, and just like how you do not "buy dollar and hold" they do not want bitcoin to become anything like that, they want bitcoin to be dollar or euro so that people would work for it and earn it and spend it just like fiat.

The other part is the ones who would like to see bitcoin like stocks or gold, they would buy it and hold it and get richer thanks to it. If you are the second party, you should be happy about people buying and holding bitcoin, because that makes it go higher, but if you want people to actually use it as a currency this is not the way to go and makes things harder.

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December 27, 2020, 11:18:10 AM
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Well maybe this is the reason of why the Bitcoin price is keep on increasing at ATH record because there are lot of big companies that are keep on holding too and this might attract the other investors to join the loop too. Hopefully they are not the big whales that anytime may bring down the price again.
Undoubtedly, attracting large capital from large companies in bitcoin increases its demand and value in the cryptocurrency market. But at the same time, a large amount of bitcoin in one hand can be either a good factor for the market or a bad one. Big whales can easily manipulate pricing, and can also influence the constant growth of the Bitcoin exchange rate.

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And how many power they have? Think about it, guys. They can manipulate the market as they want
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Well maybe this is the reason of why the Bitcoin price is keep on increasing at ATH record because there are lot of big companies that are keep on holding too and this might attract the other investors to join the loop too. Hopefully they are not the big whales that anytime may bring down the price again.
Undoubtedly, attracting large capital from large companies in bitcoin increases its demand and value in the cryptocurrency market. But at the same time, a large amount of bitcoin in one hand can be either a good factor for the market or a bad one. Big whales can easily manipulate pricing, and can also influence the constant growth of the Bitcoin exchange rate.

But as long as many look at it as positive well there's nothing harm with that and also those big companies will not want the price goes down badly, so if there's certain manipulation will happen at the current price for sure it cannot affect the market so much since provably there are many whales will catch the bargain price of BTC since the potential to rise up for more in value is so high.

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December 27, 2020, 01:16:11 PM
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Day by day more and more new company interested buy bitcoin, and come big investor investment bitcoin. It's very good for future bitcoin price

I agree with you...The more investors of bitcoin, the higher will be the value of it.  Mass adoption of bitcoin is really increasing and because of this new ATH of bitcoin, it continue attracting big companies, millionaires, billionaires and celebrities to join the bitcoins evolution.
Yes we are at the top momentum now on btc .It has got the popularity and the companies are starting to invest on vastly .However the value will be increased as they are holding lot enough .I think the mass adoption has raised at the time of lock down and it is increasing that's how the value is increasing too.

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December 27, 2020, 02:10:54 PM
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Some companies have been doing it and did you know the richest people in mexico was also investing in bitcoin since 2013. They were buying bitcoin when the price was very cheap.
They have a lot of money and i thought that they have been preparing it even since the creation of bitcoin. The only ignorance who will keep to say bitcoin as a not promising investment while the fact says the opposite thing.
well, I really agree with what you say because large companies will try to take advantage of any opportunity that exists to be able to get a lot of profit, such as bitcoin which has a fast price movement can provide a lot of profit to companies that have bought a very large amount of bitcoin.

People before have been doubting about the real value and function of Bitcoin but since its developments and improvements have been visible, even the richest people and big companies would want to get richer through it. The negative effect of it in the future is that they would be able to manipulate the prices and it would be hard for simple people to accumulate or invest with Bitcoin because the supply might also be limited.
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December 27, 2020, 02:47:00 PM
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I prefer companies that hold a lot of Bitcoin than individuals, because it is common for companies that buy Bitcoin for long-term investments
as reserve funds. So there is very little pump and dump will happen compared to individuals who want to get personal gain and there will be
price manipulation in the market this will be very dangerous. So knowing this good news with many companies that have started buying lots of
Bitcoin, this is of course the reason why the price of Bitcoin has continued to rise. I hope that more companies decide to invest in Bitcoin.

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I am not really against big corporations going into bitcoin, this is not giving them more power over bitcoin, it just gives the more power over "price" of bitcoin and that is not really that important. What people do not understand is that Banks are not evil because they have a lot of money, they have our money and we can withdraw that anytime we want and destroy them if that was the only power they had.

However they are evil and they are ruining many nations (not just banks, rich people all together) because they have power over politicians and because they have power over politicians (with bribes) they can make anything they want happen, that is the worst thing.

Even in this covid era they got more money than regular people did, which should provide proof of why we dislike them and why we use bitcoin. Here they can't change anything, bitcoin is bitcoin and you could have over 100 billion dollars worth of bitcoin and you still have to live with the majority decision.
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December 28, 2020, 10:43:11 AM
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This might sound good right now. Will this be good in the long run??

More Bitcoins going to this companies = more likely that the price will drop down very hard if the time comes for them to sell a portion of their holdings. More and more companies will follow this trend in the next years. They might be holding a small portion of the total supply right now but when this continue for a year or 2 it is not the same scenario anymore. I'm not against them holding many Bitcoins but this just shows that when they are holding too much, they also have the capability to push down Bitcoin's price.

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I had no idea about Grayscale holding a substantial huge amount of coins and they can control the market price with ease with the amount of coins they are holding. The Tezos foundation is the company that owns Tezos i assume and block one is the company that owns EOS if i am not mistaken, but what i did not understand is MT GOX kk, i thought they liquidated all the coins.
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It's expected to happen and this is what the community wants, we want big company and corporation to become one of the players in Cryptocurrency because with them around we feel adoption is in progress our community will become huge if we have the top corporation and companies part of the community, the only negative side is they control majority of the supply.
Crypto is an open marketplace that any party can join in the game. the major companies from the wallstreet are not coming yet. They must pay more if they wanna control more supply and that's quite impossible for bitcoin to be monopolized by the big companies. They are nearly holding almost 1 million worth of bitcoin.

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December 29, 2020, 05:07:32 AM
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Also, i'm not sure if an exchange actually legally "owns" the coins in their hot and cold wallets... I guess legally they belong to their clients, eventough the exchange has complete controll over them them

In that sense, Coinbase controls more coins than every one of these companies combined. No matter how big GBTC gets, Coinbase will always be bigger since they handle custody for Grayscale. They had close to 1M coins in their custody earlier this year.

More Bitcoins going to this companies = more likely that the price will drop down very hard if the time comes for them to sell a portion of their holdings.

That's true of any market: buyers eventually become sellers. Retail investors have weaker hands than institutions though, so I don't see why this is a bad thing, at least with regard to price.

There are plenty of arguments to be made as to why Wall Street institutions owning a big chunk of the BTC supply is bad for Bitcoin's decentralization and governance, but that's another matter.

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Let them hold as much as they want... Less bitcoin in circulation means higher prices... Also, i'm not sure if an exchange actually legally "owns" the coins in their hot and cold wallets... I guess legally they belong to their clients, eventough the exchange has complete controll over them them

The Gray-scale one is mother of all. Lolz. Just imagine if their clients starts to dump the bitcoins what would the market turn into. But if it's the client then obviously not all of the bitcoins will be dumped that fast. I mean it adds more security of funds to us rather than single entity like gray-scale or mtgox holding them all alone.

Your logic is correct, if they would have been held by one entity then by now they would have controlled the whole market at such high prices. I guess they will keep buying more and more coins (clients) until they find right spot like 100k per BTC or 200k BTC... You never know!!
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December 29, 2020, 11:36:40 AM
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I am convinced that Bitcoin is inevitably will be bought out by whales almost completely during next 10 years.
We as smaller investors should rather think of investing in something that will grow exponentially like bitcoin did during last 10 years.

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Let them hold as much as they want... Less bitcoin in circulation means higher prices... Also, i'm not sure if an exchange actually legally "owns" the coins in their hot and cold wallets... I guess legally they belong to their clients, eventough the exchange has complete controll over them them

The Gray-scale one is mother of all. Lolz. Just imagine if their clients starts to dump the bitcoins what would the market turn into. But if it's the client then obviously not all of the bitcoins will be dumped that fast. I mean it adds more security of funds to us rather than single entity like gray-scale or mtgox holding them all alone.

Your logic is correct, if they would have been held by one entity then by now they would have controlled the whole market at such high prices. I guess they will keep buying more and more coins (clients) until they find right spot like 100k per BTC or 200k BTC... You never know!!
That mt.gox one scares me the most out of any of them. Grayscale has over half a million bitcoins which was something I didn't know, but in any case they are holding them and not selling them any time soon, buying that much bitcoin obviously made bitcoin price increase a lot as well, so I assume that people know what they are doing and there is no problem with it, nobody really felt upset about it or did anything about it or wrote any bad things about it, so I guess we are all fine.

However that mt.gox is not like that, that is the trustee that hold it, and they WILL sell it soon, so this is why I think it is quite important to realize we will get a big crash because of that, maybe even soon who knows, because that will be sold to cover the debt and that is a big deal. When that happens, we need to be ready for it and need to buy it from them, otherwise they will dump it.
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December 29, 2020, 03:40:49 PM
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Last day when bitcoin reach almost $30k many company have sold their bitcoin and waiting correction moment to buy back, this happen when bitcoin reach higher price many thousand transaction from withdrawing or depositing bitcoin from one wallet to other wallet, will get impact bitcoin have lower price and usually happen for investor to get good moment selling on higher price then waiting for bitcoin back lower price to buy back, just happening right now when bitcoin down many investors waiting for buying bitcoin again because only bitcoin most recommended to get much profit.

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December 29, 2020, 03:42:16 PM
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That mt.gox one scares me the most out of any of them. they WILL sell it soon, so this is why I think it is quite important to realize we will get a big crash because of that, maybe even soon who knows, because that will be sold to cover the debt and that is a big deal. When that happens, we need to be ready for it and need to buy it from them, otherwise they will dump it.

Talking about MT Gox it would make a lot of sense if in the future the Bitcoin price could drop because they were shortselling it to meet their interests. Remembering the dark past of those who have so far been in debt due to their own negligence. The price of Bitcoin which continues to rise to more than 25k USD can be one of their alternatives to pay off their debt by selling their entire BTC and such actions can collapse the price of BTC, and the ones who suffer the heaviest losses are single investors. However, the best thing right now is to be clever at seeing the situation on issues that arise in the market.
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The more this coin is hold by institutional investors, the higher likely the price will increase because only few will be left on exchanges, I saw crypto alert bot showing large amount of Bitcoin that were leaving exchange to personal wallet even at high price of $25k. This shows that institutional investors are buying this digital assets even at higher price because they are looking towards future expectations.
However, it will really be a disaster if these wallets that are holding this huge amount of Bitcoin decide to dump on exchange.



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I am happy by observing such measure of bitcoin that organizations are holding. I believe that bitcoin has a bright future, and now nobody can stop its development. For me, they're the genuine financial specialists who help to support the bitcoins market. I hope more organizations consider bitcoin and contribute to it. The government ought to likewise think for digital money, and they should feel that how bitcoins can assist with improving the economy.
The governments will evaluate the impact of the Bitcoin again, they will more seriously this time. Bitcoin is not prohibited, every individual or organization always concerned about it, governments will adopt more progressive policies.
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The more this coin is hold by institutional investors, the higher likely the price will increase because only few will be left on exchanges, I saw crypto alert bot showing large amount of Bitcoin that were leaving exchange to personal wallet even at high price of $25k. This shows that institutional investors are buying this digital assets even at higher price because they are looking towards future expectations.
However, it will really be a disaster if these wallets that are holding this huge amount of Bitcoin decide to dump on exchange.




That's only happening with bitcoin and they were not buying another asset like altcoins. It's caused by bitcoin has limited supply and this gives them all confidence to store more and more value to the bitcoin.
This time so many parties seeing bitcoin as a store of value rather than used it as a payment method. Im still waiting for the bitcoin to surpass 1 trillion marketcap.
I do believe they will hodl their bitcoin for longterm.

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I am happy by observing such measure of bitcoin that organizations are holding. I believe that bitcoin has a bright future, and now nobody can stop its development. For me, they're the genuine financial specialists who help to support the bitcoins market. I hope more organizations consider bitcoin and contribute to it. The government ought to likewise think for digital money, and they should feel that how bitcoins can assist with improving the economy.
The governments will evaluate the impact of the Bitcoin again, they will more seriously this time. Bitcoin is not prohibited, every individual or organization always concerned about it, governments will adopt more progressive policies.

Hopefully, the government will not prohibit using bitcoin for their people once they see bitcoin benefits to their people. Bitcoin has a bright future, and the adoption is still going on, and bitcoin will grow more than today. I am sure the government will realize that bitcoin is not just for investment, but it can also make payments. Maybe the government will ask the company to hold a big amount of bitcoin to know their reason to buy bitcoin.

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December 30, 2020, 11:49:07 AM
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The governments will evaluate the impact of the Bitcoin again, they will more seriously this time. Bitcoin is not prohibited, every individual or organization always concerned about it, governments will adopt more progressive policies.
Let's hope it's progressive and not regressive with time. There are institutions which are going on accumulating bitcoin and they are not waiting for government moves but making sure they have the biggest stakes when the te comes for selling.

The ones suffering are those who have kept small stashes and getting prosecuted for that because their government is not willing to be lenient.

I guess much of the control remains in the hands of bigger financial corps which don't like bitcoin or its abilities.

There are problems with every moneytary methods but things need to taken with a positive attitude.

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World top some company Holding 10000+ Bitcoin


Proof that our Market now is legit and not being controlled by Whale manipulator, In the past year they are the one whos making the Market shake and bringing Hurt to small investors .
Now upon having this company that we knew their intention in Holding Bitcoin ,for the preparation if ever there comes another World economic crisis and not to make a Buying and selling for the sake of profiting .
These companies are here to make use Bitcoin in its real form ,and not just a Trading material .
I don't know if there are a lot of companies that buy bitcoin and hold large amounts of bitcoin in my opinion that is terrible,
seeing manipulation can happen in the market, 10k Bitcoin is a large amount, and this can make the market bearish if everything is sold at a certain level,
I think this can be said to be good news, or it can also be called bad news.
Obvious that you did not Look in OP instead in title.

There are names Given above ,so now you know that there are  legit company.

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December 30, 2020, 03:10:18 PM
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Let them hold as much as they want... Less bitcoin in circulation means higher prices... Also, i'm not sure if an exchange actually legally "owns" the coins in their hot and cold wallets... I guess legally they belong to their clients, eventough the exchange has complete controll over them them

The Gray-scale one is mother of all. Lolz. Just imagine if their clients starts to dump the bitcoins what would the market turn into. But if it's the client then obviously not all of the bitcoins will be dumped that fast. I mean it adds more security of funds to us rather than single entity like gray-scale or mtgox holding them all alone.

Your logic is correct, if they would have been held by one entity then by now they would have controlled the whole market at such high prices. I guess they will keep buying more and more coins (clients) until they find right spot like 100k per BTC or 200k BTC... You never know!!
I think they are ready for such a problem, they said they would instead sell to others instead of selling it to market. Which means instead of their clients selling bitcoin directly (since it is not a bitcoin exchange) their clients technically will be selling to their other clients, while bitcoin may have profited them nearly 80% profit, if they sell it all, they would get 40% profit for example, because there will be not as many buyers.

However there is thankfully no problem like that right now, there are more and more buyers, which means even if any of their big whale investors decides to get out, they could still find buyers and they would continue without selling their bitcoins. Think of them like a treasure, there is this huge bitcoin treasure they own and you do not actually own the treasure as the client, you just own one part of it, and you can't take it apart neither, so either you sell your share of the treasure or you hold it, but never sell the treasure.
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December 30, 2020, 05:23:02 PM
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Shouldn't we worry about the same? These companies are here for profits and they can bring bloodbath whenever they want. What do your guys think?

They can but it would hard to sell everything off in one take so there is less merit for them to sell everything then keeping it.  Holding these bitcoins is probably less than 10% of their entire portfolio so if they can get 0.5% profit of their 100% portfolio by selling only small amount of bitcoins, they would do so instead of letting everything go

Even if bloodbath happens, there will always be another next companies that look into bitcoin and put it into their portfolio

Next companies to look into buying bitcoins during bloodbath makes sense. In fact, I have become stronger than before to buy bitcoin in bloodbath.
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I am happy by observing such measure of bitcoin that organizations are holding. I believe that bitcoin has a bright future, and now nobody can stop its development. For me, they're the genuine financial specialists who help to support the bitcoins market. I hope more organizations consider bitcoin and contribute to it. The government ought to likewise think for digital money, and they should feel that how bitcoins can assist with improving the economy.
The governments will evaluate the impact of the Bitcoin again, they will more seriously this time. Bitcoin is not prohibited, every individual or organization always concerned about it, governments will adopt more progressive policies.

Hopefully, the government will not prohibit using bitcoin for their people once they see bitcoin benefits to their people. Bitcoin has a bright future, and the adoption is still going on, and bitcoin will grow more than today. I am sure the government will realize that bitcoin is not just for investment, but it can also make payments. Maybe the government will ask the company to hold a big amount of bitcoin to know their reason to buy bitcoin.
With the price of bitcoin continuing to get higher then at least not only the government is paying attention to it, there will be more communities coming into this market. With this extraordinary development and growth, I don't think it is surprising that many companies and / or other institutions might adopt bitcoin but even so, in my country bitcoin is still used as a place to invest and cannot be used as currency.

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With the price of bitcoin continuing to get higher then at least not only the government is paying attention to it, there will be more communities coming into this market. With this extraordinary development and growth, I don't think it is surprising that many companies and / or other institutions might adopt bitcoin but even so, in my country bitcoin is still used as a place to invest and cannot be used as currency.

I think in the next year, many companies and institutions will adopt bitcoin, and many people will also join in bitcoin. They do not want to miss the chance to have a new investment type and a way to make money. Bitcoin price itself will still increase until reaching the next high peak, and we can wait for more and prepare our bitcoin to sell at that high price.

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With the price of bitcoin continuing to get higher then at least not only the government is paying attention to it, there will be more communities coming into this market. With this extraordinary development and growth, I don't think it is surprising that many companies and / or other institutions might adopt bitcoin but even so, in my country bitcoin is still used as a place to invest and cannot be used as currency.
I agree that when governments pay some attention, the companies will get more interested as well. Right now there is a big amount of people who are not entirely sure about going into crypto because they do not know what government thinks about it, but if governments made it clear to everyone, that would make things a lot easier for others to join.

Just to give an example, in my nation the exchanges even have advertisements, which is a proof that government actually backs it up, because you can't really be a company that gives ads everyone on television and even on billboards, without government ever taking a look at you, hence that means government checked them out and found no problems with a crypto exchange. This should provide proof that you could buy as much crypto as you can, and these type of things lead to crypto prices increasing a lot.

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the government will not prohibit using bitcoin for their people once they see bitcoin benefits to their people. Bitcoin has a bright future, and the adoption is still going on, and bitcoin will grow more than today. I am sure the government will realize that bitcoin is not just for investment, but it can also make payments. Maybe the government will ask the company to hold a big amount of bitcoin to know their reason to buy bitcoin.
Most of the advanced nations of the world already created laws about bitcoin already. Even if it is not about crypto as a whole, they all have as much of a written rule set about them as possible. It means you could use it, buy it, send it, receive it, trade it, invest in it and do whatever you want with it and there are rules about it.

The moment KYC became a thing and people gave their information and ID's to the companies that they use crypto, they became more legal that way. This is why I think this whole legal issues have been not a problem for nearly 3 to 4 years in many nations, about a bit before that 2017 epic increase moment. These days it is not even a discussion, you just fill out a form saying you bought bitcoin and you just fill out a form saying you sold them and you pay the taxes and you are already doing something proper. Also that "form" is not physical (you could get the physical one) but more like checkbox while trading, so quite simple really.

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January 01, 2021, 10:19:17 PM
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This is to be expected considering how people's perspective on bitcoin changed over the course of 3 years after the ATH last 2017. Most likely these companies are FOMOing their brains out so they had no choice but to buy tons and tons of bitcoin. This wouldn't be that impactful in the present but as soon as the supply slowly dries out, people will see how big these thousands and thousands of bitcoins hodled by the few top 1%s of our society.
The more this coin is hold by institutional investors, the higher likely the price will increase because only few will be left on exchanges, I saw crypto alert bot showing large amount of Bitcoin that were leaving exchange to personal wallet even at high price of $25k. This shows that institutional investors are buying this digital assets even at higher price because they are looking towards future expectations.
However, it will really be a disaster if these wallets that are holding this huge amount of Bitcoin decide to dump on exchange.


This wouldn't be the only thing they can manipulate once all of this is said and done. We're going to have a big problem once bitcoins become scarce, they will moat likely sell these coins for higher lrices and since we want to get into the profitability offered by bitciin, we wouldn't have any choice but to comply.

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January 01, 2021, 11:34:05 PM
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This what makes Cryptocurrency a game changer because of these companies that pump the market, they have the huge potential of the market they entered the market, I'll see many more companies in two to three years and this will push the price further, but they can also manipulate the market as well if they decide to play it together.
This is good because the more bitcoins they tend to hold, the higher price will be. But they can manipulate the market price too if they want through selling their bitcoin and see the bitcoin price suddenly dumps. But for now, selling their bitcoin might be far from reality seeing the market price continues to surge.


There will only be major impact in the market if most of these institutions will simultaneously agree what to do with their holdings.
But I don't think they will be talking to each other on what to do with their btc assets.
Anyway, with these financial institutions that are into crypto right now, it means, they believe that bitcoin will have a bright future.
Because if they have doubts about its potential, I don't think they will stake the funds of their clients to this very high risk venture.
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More and more companies are getting into holding of bitcoin. In the past large scale companies invested on bitcoin and those details were kept confidential.

Not sure how you can be confidential on a public blockchain.   Things you have done are recorded forever, even if not yet discovered.

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the greater the trust of a well-known company in bitcoin, the more likely it is that the price will continue to increase because in my opinion other companies will come in to secure their investment into bitcoin.
but there are concerns that the company could manipulate bitcoin prices.
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January 02, 2021, 08:36:47 AM
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And with all this, users of BTC and any other cryptocurrencies are fully confident that their savings are completely safe.
Remember how much BTC and ETH China has, look at the OP screen. I don't know what you see but I see exactly the same control of money as in the case of fiat money. If tomorrow one of these whales wants to drop the market and destroy all your savings he can do it easily and simply. And then what? Will you again wait 5 years for BTC to "go to the moon"? No, you will immediately drop everything and go everywhere to shout that cryptocurrencies are a money bubble and do not need to touch them at all (there have been so many similar cases).
The more popular a thing becomes , the less decentralized it becomes. It has long been time to accept that decentralization is impossible at least because anyone with sufficient forces and means can collect a "controlling stake" in their hands, thereby buying themselves a red button.
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I don't know if there are a lot of companies that buy bitcoin and hold large amounts of bitcoin in my opinion that is terrible,
seeing manipulation can happen in the market, 10k Bitcoin is a large amount, and this can make the market bearish if everything is sold at a certain level,
I think this can be said to be good news, or it can also be called bad news.
if the 10k Bitcoin is to diversify client's investment then it's fine. 10K bitcoin also small fraction of bitcoin which amounts to 21 million not including the lost coins.
The only problem about that if theres thousands of other company doing the same thing which amount to humongous amount possessed by some companies

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January 02, 2021, 05:17:04 PM
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If you compare to gold, which is a much bigger market, most companies don't hold gold, most people don't hold gold (well, aside from some jewelry), it doesn't really matter. If you have a stash of gold you're still good regardless.
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the greater the trust of a well-known company in bitcoin, the more likely it is that the price will continue to increase because in my opinion other companies will come in to secure their investment into bitcoin.
but there are concerns that the company could manipulate bitcoin prices.
theres no people behind btc that can sabotage btc by pulling the switch .

satoshi nakamoto is missing and if he isnt , i think he wont do silly things to his btc . its the big btc owners that makes an impact with the price , they need to care with their action if they dont want to loose the money that they invest in btc .

why will they manipulate btc when in the first place they invest to secure funds ? manipulation can cause panic and can affect the price  negatively .
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I had no idea about Grayscale holding a substantial huge amount of coins and they can control the market price with ease with the amount of coins they are holding. The Tezos foundation is the company that owns Tezos i assume and block one is the company that owns EOS if i am not mistaken, but what i did not understand is MT GOX kk, i thought they liquidated all the coins.

At some point in the future, those bitcoin will become liquid, they are institutional investors and hence they will definitely need their capital and profits when it's necessary. Thank goodness, bitcoin network is transparent and pseudonym in nature as all transactions can be trace from wallet to wallet.
As soon as institutions start moving their bags, this market wouldn't be funny.
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January 02, 2021, 09:23:45 PM
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Isn't this actually good when they are holding more Bitcoin? Maybe it could be if they prepared it for the future, who knows how many years. because I believe that they are not the type of short term investment player. The more companies that are aware of Bitcoin and invest it in BTC, the better. The more demand is needed, the more Bitcoin price itself will be.
the fear is, maybe one day they are exposed to FUD and finally release the BTC at a low price which we don't want? of course, they will have quite an impact on the crypto market.

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Princejebs : not necessarily. You could hold your BTC forever and borrow fiat against it. In fact you can already do that with Defi, but it's also a service available to rich people against their stock portfolio, real estate or gold stash, BTC is just the latest asset allowing them to do that.
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January 02, 2021, 10:39:00 PM
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Next companies to look into buying bitcoins during bloodbath makes sense. In fact, I have become stronger than before to buy bitcoin in bloodbath.
The best time to invest in any potential asset is during the blood bath and bitcoin gave everyone the opportunity during the last correction and if purchased during that time then you could have made a healthy profit unlike any other market and still looking strong.

Many companies invested in bitcoin in the past one year knowing that the halving could take the market to new levels and now i am amazed to see how the market was able to break all the resistance with ease without any correction.
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Let them hold as much as they want... Less bitcoin in circulation means higher prices... Also, i'm not sure if an exchange actually legally "owns" the coins in their hot and cold wallets... I guess legally they belong to their clients, eventough the exchange has complete controll over them them
This was what I was thinking as well, even if the exchanges do not own those coins they are probably holding larger amounts than what it is shown in the graphic given by the OP, I find it interesting that allegedly satoshi holds one million bitcoins and yet now we are seeing some companies begin to rival that amount and doing so by buying at decent prices, at this point it seems that unless they sell a great deal of those coins we are looking at some of those that will become some of the richest companies and individuals around the world in the near future.

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Princejebs : not necessarily. You could hold your BTC forever and borrow fiat against it. In fact you can already do that with Defi, but it's also a service available to rich people against their stock portfolio, real estate or gold stash, BTC is just the latest asset allowing them to do that.
well I really agree with what you said and until now many have benefited from the increase in the price of bitcoin which touched the price of $30800 which has become the most expensive price in 2021, hopefully bitcoin can increase the price again so that it can make many people get more profit many including holders who have more than 10000 bitcoins.

yes, they can do that, some might have been doing it to increase their portfolio, hence the price continues to increase.
They have realized that bitcoin is one of the best-developed assets during the pandemic, the more institutions investing in bitcoin the better, it's just how long do they plan to hold bitcoin? At some point, they have to sell bitcoin to cover their loans and take profits for investors, when the time comes, the price will be affected. Hopefully, they don't sell bitcoin at the same time.
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Yesterday I was having a discussion with one of my friends, regarding the rush from mainstream investors in to the Bitcoin sector. He was concerned that when the prices go down in the future, these companies are likely to dump their holdings. I disagreed with his opinion. Most of these companies have made their investment for the long term, and they can wait for as much as 5-6 years to get a good ROI. And by now most of us know about the 4-year cycle of pump-and-dump that happens with BTC.

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This is good because the more bitcoins they tend to hold, the higher price will be. But they can manipulate the market price too if they want through selling their bitcoin and see the bitcoin price suddenly dumps. But for now, selling their bitcoin might be far from reality seeing the market price continues to surge.
They are held by fund managers for companies, whose job is to show green across the board when the investors demand it. Hence even if a big company holds bitcoin, they are contributing more to the "weak hands" group of people who sell right when a bear market starts and dont buy till it gets over. Hence more chances that they will end up bleeding the price out when support is actually needed.

Not saying that institutional money is bad, some have hedge fund managers who actually do their job instead of inflating stock prices of their companies but even then for them it is just another asset class that have entered their client's portfolio.

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Yesterday I was having a discussion with one of my friends, regarding the rush from mainstream investors in to the Bitcoin sector. He was concerned that when the prices go down in the future, these companies are likely to dump their holdings. I disagreed with his opinion. Most of these companies have made their investment for the long term, and they can wait for as much as 5-6 years to get a good ROI. And by now most of us know about the 4-year cycle of pump-and-dump that happens with BTC.

Just to add as well, these companies are not using bitcoin as an speculative asset, just because it will reach a new all time high, they will simply liquidate. Yes, they are here for long term, I will say minimum of 5-10 years, and see how their asset grew. If it is very positive and giving them huge profit while protecting their asset then obviously, they will continue their success formula and even invest more on bitcoin. So the 4 year cycle of bubble and burst might not be applicable in this scenario.

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Finally, large companies began to pay attention to cryptocurrency. Every year more and more companies start to implement cryptocurrency into their payment system, now you can even buy goods in some stores for cryptocurrency. This means only one thing - cryptocurrency is gradually becoming a popular means of payment.

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Just to add as well, these companies are not using bitcoin as an speculative asset, just because it will reach a new all time high, they will simply liquidate. Yes, they are here for long term, I will say minimum of 5-10 years, and see how their asset grew. If it is very positive and giving them huge profit while protecting their asset then obviously, they will continue their success formula and even invest more on bitcoin. So the 4 year cycle of bubble and burst might not be applicable in this scenario.

I agree to a certain limit, but you are ignoring other risk factors. Look at what happened to XRP. It has lost almost 90% of its value in a few weeks, just because SEC has decided to treat it as an equity. What will happen, if something similar occurs with Bitcoin? Do you really think that these investment firms will continue to hold Bitcoin, if the SEC advise them against doing so?
Of course, this is a big risk when the cryptocurrency market can suffer from the fact that large companies want to make money by selling their cryptocurrency capital. But I believe that large companies should, on the contrary, protect their capital, and not harm it. For them, it is better to keep their capital in bitcoin, which is much more valuable than a dollar, because the only thing the big whale will achieve by selling his bitcoins is a large pile of unnecessary dollar bills.

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How can a company holding 500k + bitcoin?  According to coinmarketcap data analysis there are only 1 address who is holding the highest amount of bitcoin which is 141k bitcoin. Then in your graph how can it shows the highest bitcoin holder is 500k + bitcoin holder. Can you please verify it. Because i saw it in coinmarketcap. I do not think soo that coinmarketcap provide any fake information. Now i am seriously little bit confused. If anyone can clarify it please quota my reply and send a private message is this the correct information.  Because in coinmarketcap information the write only 1 address has hold the highest amount between 100k to 1000k and that is 141k then how 500k holder comes.
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At some point in the future, those bitcoin will become liquid, they are institutional investors and hence they will definitely need their capital and profits when it's necessary. Thank goodness, bitcoin network is transparent and pseudonym in nature as all transactions can be trace from wallet to wallet.
As soon as institutions start moving their bags, this market wouldn't be funny.
That is the hard reality of this rally, you can speculate any valuation you want and when that happens on back on institutional investors investing heavily in an unregulated market and majority of them knew it as the best opportunity to make a huge profit when the rest of the markets are in a state of flux with the pandemic and when they plan to book their profits, the blood bath would be huge.

I think in the next year, many companies and institutions will adopt bitcoin, and many people will also join in bitcoin. They do not want to miss the chance to have a new investment type and a way to make money. Bitcoin price itself will still increase until reaching the next high peak, and we can wait for more and prepare our bitcoin to sell at that high price.
It is hard to expect casual investors planning to invest in bitcoin when the price is rallying in uncharted price rage as a correction from this stage would be devastating even though the market will recover eventually you cannot expect the time frame.
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Yesterday I was having a discussion with one of my friends, regarding the rush from mainstream investors in to the Bitcoin sector. He was concerned that when the prices go down in the future, these companies are likely to dump their holdings. I disagreed with his opinion. Most of these companies have made their investment for the long term, and they can wait for as much as 5-6 years to get a good ROI. And by now most of us know about the 4-year cycle of pump-and-dump that happens with BTC.
Not only that I really think those companies and many other institutional investors have been buying bitcoins in the market without telling anyone for years so they got incredible prices for their coins, so even if the price of bitcoin were to go down significantly I still think they will breakeven for the most part which means those companies and investment firms will not be at risk even if they decided to keep holding their coins during such scenario.

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Finally, large companies began to pay attention to cryptocurrency. Every year more and more companies start to implement cryptocurrency into their payment system, now you can even buy goods in some stores for cryptocurrency. This means only one thing - cryptocurrency is gradually becoming a popular means of payment.
Those big corporations that have been buying huge amounts of bitcoin are not the same ones that are accepting bitcoin for their goods and services--those are two completely separate things, I think, even if both are very bullish for bitcoin in general.

How can a company holding 500k + bitcoin?
That amount of bitcoin could be held in multiple wallets, you know--and in fact if a company (or an individual whale) had that amount, it would be a smart thing to do not to hold it all in one wallet.  Having said that I don't know if any company actually does own that much.  I'm thinking that might not be a very smart thing to do, because 500k+ would be extremely hard to sell without crashing the entire market if it came to that, not to mention the huge risk they'd be taking by owning such a high percentage of outstanding bitcoin. 

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January 06, 2021, 09:31:30 PM
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this seems to be the new standard of 2020 and more companies seems focused in this activity!
what a change after all these years!
You can have a live outlook https://bitcointreasuries.org/  here of all companies that actually have bought some bitcoin.
(around 4% of total supply!)

Given the negative rates on bank deposits, it's no surprise that investment companies are starting to buy bitcoins...

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The Bitcoin blockchain is transparent.  Anyone can see how many bitcoins are in the addresses you control.  

In the future, it will be very prestigious for organizations to own their own Bitcoins.  After all, there are very few bitcoins!  There are 202 countries and about 2,000 large companies in the world.  Each of these entities may want to have the first cryptocurrency in their reserves. It's a matter of prestige.  

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Bitcoin can go up so far it is clear that individuals cannot do it, so I am not surprised by all the statistics showing some big companies holding
more than 10,000 BTC. Therefore it is very dangerous if the company continues to buy Bitcoin in large quantities, the risk is that if the company
does take profit there will be a very deep dump. So be careful in investing in Bitcoin if we know that there are indeed many companies that buy
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I just found an interesting Youtube video from yesterday, with Coindesk's Michael Casey talking about bitcoin's rise.  He doesn't think it's due to the average Joe on the street speculating on bitcoin but these so-called "whales" who are driving up the price of bitcoin--which I'd assume would include the companies mentioned in this thread.

And that makes sense to me completely.  Big money being put into bitcoin in a relatively short period of time can drive up the price quite quickly, quicker than if this was some homegrown rally of smaller investors. 

As I've said before, I'm just hoping these intrepid companies that are so bullish on bitcoin don't get burned in a bubble-type situation.  I'm assuming they've done their due diligence, but anything can happen in the world of bitcoin.

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I just found an interesting Youtube video from yesterday, with Coindesk's Michael Casey talking about bitcoin's rise.  He doesn't think it's due to the average Joe on the street speculating on bitcoin but these so-called "whales" who are driving up the price of bitcoin--which I'd assume would include the companies mentioned in this thread.

And that makes sense to me completely.  Big money being put into bitcoin in a relatively short period of time can drive up the price quite quickly, quicker than if this was some homegrown rally of smaller investors. 

As I've said before, I'm just hoping these intrepid companies that are so bullish on bitcoin don't get burned in a bubble-type situation.  I'm assuming they've done their due diligence, but anything can happen in the world of bitcoin.

These companies can afford to take the risk, at least when compared to the individual investors out there. And most of these investment firms or their promoters have cryptocurrency as a small part of their overall portfolio, unlike the majority of the users here who have that proportion from 50% to 90%. Obviously there can be ups and downs when you invest in such a volatile asset. But it is a part of the game. If you don't like the volatility, then you can always go for bank deposits or treasury bonds.

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It could actually be quite damaging to Bitcoin in the long run as more of it consolidates into the ownership of just a few companies/people. They will essentially be able to sway the market whenever they feel like it and also make it much harder to people to acquire a whole Bitcoin, somewhat removing the allure of it for the average person. We might be moving into an age where Bitcoin is more of a novelty item to show off between the super rich, rather than a usable currency unit with many outlets accepting it.
There's a possibility that is going to happen many institutions are buying now, PayPal started the trend late this year and they have integrated this to their platform, we cannot stop this, it's an open market they can buy as many Bitcoin as they want, small investors cannot compete with big companies, there's a possibility that this could happen with a ten year period if this continues.

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Its even encouraging for them to hold  bitcoin especially quantum's of  bitcoin because is like since them come into cryptocurrency that's the reason while bitcoin is increasing in price, and for them to hold it ,let it not be that they have interior motive so far that bitcoin will be under their care, because companies don't really get lost in anything concerning business, and it's not surprise that many companies will come after bitcoin, weather by investing or using it for payment of workers or by importation of raw materials because is very obvious that no one want to do without cryptocurrency especially bitcoin in society currently, and if all these companies hold bitcoin long period it will be very difficult to purchase bitcoin and selling of btc will be under their custody which is total wrong.

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It could actually be quite damaging to Bitcoin in the long run as more of it consolidates into the ownership of just a few companies/people. They will essentially be able to sway the market whenever they feel like it and also make it much harder to people to acquire a whole Bitcoin, somewhat removing the allure of it for the average person. We might be moving into an age where Bitcoin is more of a novelty item to show off between the super rich, rather than a usable currency unit with many outlets accepting it.
There's a possibility that is going to happen many institutions are buying now, PayPal started the trend late this year and they have integrated this to their platform, we cannot stop this, it's an open market they can buy as many Bitcoin as they want, small investors cannot compete with big companies, there's a possibility that this could happen with a ten year period if this continues.
I also think there is nothing that will stop this tendency now, as soon as one company was brave enough to take the risk and buy huge amounts of bitcoin the rest of the companies around the world are going to see that the longer they wait the more they will have to pay for each bitcoin, but while this seems like a good thing it is also scary, can you imagine a FOMO caused not by individual investors but by companies with incredibly deep pockets?

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January 11, 2021, 10:13:24 PM
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Man, I was wondering what would happen to the stock of some of these companies (the ones that are public) if bitcoin had a correction or, heaven forbid, crashed.

If I'm not mistaken, bitcoin dropped a few thousand USD in the past day or so, yet the 6-month chart for MicroStrategy is looking pretty damn good:


And Square has also not done so badly, either.  I forget how much BTC they hold, but they're on my watchlist of bitcoin-related companies:


Then again, it's only been a day or two.  If bitcoin continued to decline I would think these stocks might be in a wee bit of trouble--especially MSTR's.  I just watched a Youtube vid with the CEO, and it's amazing how bullish he is on bitcoin.

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This is often not outlandish to happen as increasingly companies are beginning hold Bitcoin, the supplies are getting rare. The cost of Bitcoin had climbed up a few companies fair a couple of months prior begun amassing Bitcoin since they are beginning to see its potential long-term.May it will begin to ended up a storing amusement, as more companies are beginning to purchase bulks of Bitcoin for long-term purposes.

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Man, I was wondering what would happen to the stock of some of these companies (the ones that are public) if bitcoin had a correction or, heaven forbid, crashed.

If I'm not mistaken, bitcoin dropped a few thousand USD in the past day or so, yet the 6-month chart for MicroStrategy is looking pretty damn good

That is, if there was a correction. The last time I checked, Bitcoin prices were back to $36,000 per coin (24 hours back, it was trading at $31,000). Look at the pace at which the prices have recovered. It can't get any more clear than this. There will be no correction for the next few weeks at least. Demand is outstripping the supply by a large margin and even if some whale dumps a large amount of BTC, the prices will recover in a day or two.

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Actually they are playing a vital roll in this bull market. They are holding coins. The price is rising gradually.
If they hold more price will go up. If they hold more price will never Decrease maybe.
They are holding billions dollars.

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Pretty mindblowing to watch a currency rise from its infancy until this point, isn't it? I believe this is only the beginning. Think about it... Apple, Google, Berkshire and all the other blue chips out there haven't acquired any BTC on their balance sheet yet. They are staying on huge piles of cash so you can imagine that once they start stacking, we won't see 5 figures anymore.  Wink
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Actually they are playing a vital roll in this bull market. They are holding coins. The price is rising gradually.
If they hold more price will go up. If they hold more price will never Decrease maybe.
They are holding billions dollars.
Yes if they will continue to hold coins then the supply will be less and the demand will get higher so technically price will go higher too, but if they will sell all their coins and begin to drop all of it, expect that market will crash as well, whales can manipulate the market it will be very hard to predict when they will release all of their coins, and this initiative actually motivates other people and companies to adapt bitcoin and to buy more of it.
It does have pros and cons when these companies will really be neither holding off or selling their coins that they had bought and of course these might be really longing for profit making,
not sure about long term prospect yet we know that companies are really aiming for revenue or profits so I will really be taking that side.

Its good to see that there are lots already of companies that do held of lots of coins into their stashes which does signify that adoption is indeed on the move and recognition
level is really showing off improvement compared to those past years.

Thing here is that you do know on how to play with the price no matter wether its dumping or rallying up.

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January 14, 2021, 11:06:19 PM
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Actually they are playing a vital roll in this bull market. They are holding coins. The price is rising gradually.
If they hold more price will go up. If they hold more price will never Decrease maybe.
They are holding billions dollars.
Yes if they will continue to hold coins then the supply will be less and the demand will get higher so technically price will go higher too, but if they will sell all their coins and begin to drop all of it, expect that market will crash as well, whales can manipulate the market it will be very hard to predict when they will release all of their coins, and this initiative actually motivates other people and companies to adapt bitcoin and to buy more of it.
There is no great use of billions lying dead weight. So far, there is no strong reason for whales to dump coins, because in the long run, it can also hit their well-being. The question at what levels made the purchase of bitcoins, because usually such companies are not for charity but for profit and in excess of a certain level should always expect some correction, because the asset holders should take profits by selling some asset.
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So many companies recognized bitcoin a long time ago, they knew that it was a good investment and to make their money grow. Until now, there are still lots of companies that are now recognizing bitcoin as a good investment, that will make the market good, there are so many investors and volume that are circulating. I can say that every company that invests has a great impact on the price of bitcoin itself. And as time passes by, the knowledge and the use of bitcoin is spreading all around the globe.
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Actually they are playing a vital roll in this bull market. They are holding coins. The price is rising gradually.
If they hold more price will go up. If they hold more price will never Decrease maybe.
They are holding billions dollars.
We will have to wait and see, institutional investors are finally coming to the market but right now their numbers are small, if enough selling pressure accumulates and the CEOs of those companies begin to get pressured by their stock holders to sell their bitcoin holdings before they begin to lose money you can be sure they will sell and crash the price in the process, unlike most of us those companies are not going to hold their bitcoin out a belief in the ideals of bitcoin, they are doing it to earn money and as soon as they think they cannot do that anymore they will sell.

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January 16, 2021, 09:47:04 AM
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Could it be that bitcoin holders have an agreement not to sell within a certain time? I sometimes have the thought that since the futures trading made the bookies hold bitcoin to make traders become rectifiers. regardless, technically bitcoin has increased. With the ownership of 10,000 Bitcoin it has been able to make the market shaky and manipulate the market
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Many large companies are holding extremely large amounts of cryptocurrencies, especially bitcoin.  But the major financial institutions are still limited, most of the list above are crypto exchanges and funds.

In 2021 the list could just continue to grow of some companies would buy it for the first time as other have started to purchase it and would like to take advantage of it. Though not many would have that 10k and above but will have many companies such companies who would have 100's of quantity and keep increasing the count as and when markets dips.


I think you are right Reliable, but what we can't forget is that many individuals have +10k BTC too. Future is going to be interesting, crypto will reshape and change the economy we know, and with those changes I think we can expect changes on other fields too!
As always, the ones who get in first will have more benefits in the future! The first headlines about big companies buying bitcoin I saw in February I think, so some companies can book a nice profit already! Some of them got in late, they will have to wait for profit! By this we can see what 1 year (and less) can mean in crypto, a big difference!

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January 20, 2021, 07:05:36 PM
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Could it be that bitcoin holders have an agreement not to sell within a certain time? I sometimes have the thought that since the futures trading made the bookies hold bitcoin to make traders become rectifiers. regardless, technically bitcoin has increased. With the ownership of 10,000 Bitcoin it has been able to make the market shaky and manipulate the market
That would be technically illegal however it is entirely possible that it happens because as we know this market is largely unregulated however I doubt that it is common, because not every single large holder is going to have the very same goals, some see bitcoin just as another investment and they may want to sell it as soon as they see significant profits, but there are other long term holders that have no intention of selling ever and that what they are waiting for is for major adoption to be so widespread that they can use their bitcoin without selling it.

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So many companies recognized bitcoin a long time ago, they knew that it was a good investment and to make their money grow. Until now, there are still lots of companies that are now recognizing bitcoin as a good investment, that will make the market good, there are so many investors and volume that are circulating. I can say that every company that invests has a great impact on the price of bitcoin itself. And as time passes by, the knowledge and the use of bitcoin is spreading all around the globe.

Yes, it is good that many companies admit, but I am afraid that in the future such companies will buy up all bitcoins and become monopolists, which is very bad, because bitcoin is a cryptocurrency for the people.

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Yes, it is good that many companies admit, but I am afraid that in the future such companies will buy up all bitcoins and become monopolists, which is very bad, because bitcoin is a cryptocurrency for the people.
I agree, and too much hoarding of bitcoin can somehow make the price increase but later on when the supply is overflowing the value of it might be lessen as time passes by, it is needed to be circulated no matter what so the flow will continue and the volume cannot be affected at all. It is pretty good that more and more companies using and buying bitcoin but I hope they will not dump it as easy as they can, I'm sure they won't do that but they are become the whales in this market.
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World top some company Holding 10000+ Bitcoin


I'm sure that's companies is the reason why the bitcoin is pumping in last few months. It is good for us that some companies or countries investing their money in crypto currency but it has negative effect. If they sell those bitcoin the price will fall again and need to wait another company to invest. Maybe it is good for companies who hold lot of bitcoin but the effect on small investor is not good. For the reason that their bitcoin need to wait the high value for exchange.

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January 29, 2021, 01:39:07 AM
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it's their pursuit of bitcoin or other coins that pushes the price, think about why these companies are so obsessive with these cryptocoins? obviously they are promising. Not only companies, but governments are holding bitcoins as well and some put a lot of strength in mining bitcoins. I believe in bitcoin and I won't sell mine. HODL Smiley
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I have a question. Will the company control the price of Bitcoin if it holds more Bitcoin? Will it affect individual investors?
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January 29, 2021, 06:14:19 AM
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I have a question. Will the company control the price of Bitcoin if it holds more Bitcoin? Will it affect individual investors?
Yes it will be, if they can dump more bitcoin back into supply, the more that people will feel the waves/the prices. Think of it as supply monopoly, the one who holds a bigger percentage of supply can influence what will be the next step, that monopoly could crush the prices or buy more to make it more expensive and sell it to individual at a higher price. Yes, it will affect individual investors, they are part of the market too.

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In fact, it’s not difficult to own 10,000 Bitcoins, it’s about 300 million dollars equivalent to a listed company.
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As their investment increases and the difficulty of Bitcoin mining increases, Bitcoin will continue to rise.
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Those companies who held thousands of bitcoin are helpful to the bitcoin to increase the price or to maintain the price but if those companies sell their bitcoin that they hold it will cause for the bitcoin to dump. But it is really cause to the bitcoin to manipulate the value because they have a lot of bitcoins or money so they can dump bitcoin or pump when ever they want.
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February 06, 2021, 12:43:42 PM
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And I bet that other companies might slowly follow suit. I can see it coming. The Bitcoin adoption is getting even better than ever (except for those countries who ban them or are trying to criminalize citizens who own crypto assets). If more financial institutions are going to buy more Bitcoin even at this price, it will just continue to grow in terms of price, ownership and demand.

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February 06, 2021, 04:08:52 PM
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And I bet that other companies might slowly follow suit. I can see it coming. The Bitcoin adoption is getting even better than ever (except for those countries who ban them or are trying to criminalize citizens who own crypto assets). If more financial institutions are going to buy more Bitcoin even at this price, it will just continue to grow in terms of price, ownership and demand.
I only see some important people now who have started to take an interest in bitcoin so it is not impossible that some companies will also buy and hold it for a long time to stabilize their finances, but I think that adoption has occurred years before it's just now the peak of the increase. bitcoin price is slowly certain, but indeed no one knows which company is buying bitcoin.
I believe in the next few years the demand will increase as important people tweet about crypto.

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February 06, 2021, 04:41:20 PM
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I'm not familiar with some of these names on here, but Microstrategy is one of the few that actually owns the bitcoins they hold. Entries like Grayscale or Mt Gox own bitcoin on behalf of others, so there's no conclusion to be drawn from them holding it.
We do not even know if that company really holding more than 10000 bitcoin.
Even if they claim that they holding that amount, but without showing their wallet address that holds that amount, we do not have to trust it.
Let them saying like that while we can do our business to get more bitcoin in many ways, so we do not have to miss the chance to sell bitcoin at the highest price.
I am not familiar too with that list, so I do not overthink about them because what I am concern about now is I need to make a profit in bitcoin before it is too late for me to have many bitcoin.

They're a publicly traded company. Making a statement like this without it being true would be a material misrepresentation and Saylor would be hit with investment fraud by the SEC. I'm guessing he learned his lesson from the first time that happened when he was hit with fraud for overstating MicroStrategy's books during the dotcom crash and paid more than $8.6 million dollars in fees and penalties. I'm not a fan of Saylor at all but I believe him when he says he MSTR owns X bitcoins because the penalty for lying about this would be so severe.

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February 06, 2021, 04:51:16 PM
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Those companies who held thousands of bitcoin are helpful to the bitcoin to increase the price or to maintain the price but if those companies sell their bitcoin that they hold it will cause for the bitcoin to dump. But it is really cause to the bitcoin to manipulate the value because they have a lot of bitcoins or money so they can dump bitcoin or pump when ever they want.
Indeed, it was a rough scenario they made up. However, I doubt they will do these things as long as they still consider that bitcoin is safe and promising to be choosen as a store value. And I guess it has happened now, bitcoin price has been increasing a lot since Maret 2019 ago and even has been defeating many investment place in this world.

It means, you will still hold bitcoin they had, they will sell bitcoin to take a profit and buy again when they thing bitcoin will up again. They will not sell bitcoin without a reason and try to tease the market movement, I guess they can't do that given bitcoin price is high already also they will be many buy order that hasn't been reached, as we can see everytime bitcoin fall there will be a huge increase.
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February 07, 2021, 09:39:09 AM
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GrayScale had been insanely buying BTC since its least values which is why their holdings are so high as they took people's money as an investment and as their name speaks for themselves, I believe they've got enough high-scale investors which gave this institution the buying power it needed to grab an extremely big share of BTC. Mind well, that when these institutions will start selling, the size of blood bath will be even bigger than the size of their holdings atm, but as this is just the beginning, enjoy. Wink

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February 07, 2021, 12:28:12 PM
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And I bet that other companies might slowly follow suit. I can see it coming. The Bitcoin adoption is getting even better than ever (except for those countries who ban them or are trying to criminalize citizens who own crypto assets). If more financial institutions are going to buy more Bitcoin even at this price, it will just continue to grow in terms of price, ownership and demand.
What we need now is not more companies that invest in cryptocurrencies, what we need is for governments to start acknowledging cryptocurrencies, with companies that are based on only one country hogging all the bitcoin for themselves, there will be no true adoption as there will become a monopoly of bitcoin power because the cryptocurrencies are only concentrated in one place with a limited amount of people albeit small amount of people. The price may rise but the people knowing about bitcoin or a big adoption will not happen because governments are stubborn to accept cryptocurrencies.

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February 07, 2021, 02:19:06 PM
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They have big helpful to the community to the bitcoin if they purpose is to hold a bitcoin but if they reason is to manipulaye the market that is not good. Because the more they hold once they sell it they have huge impact to the market, it's better to have a lot of small investors instead of having a big company who invest a lot because they can do what ever they want to the market.
It is a kind of double-edged sword they can be helpful because they hold a vast amount of Bitcoin and with that note, the demand will get higher leading for Bitcoin's value to go up as well but bear in mind that that vast amount of holding can be dangerous for us because they easily manipulate the market in their favor. Thus, I agree that I prefer to have a lot of small investors so that the market could move without anyone controlling it. For now, we've been making gains from their holding but what if they decided to sell off? I think that would be devastating.



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February 07, 2021, 03:08:31 PM
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World top some company Holding 10000+ Bitcoin


I believe that this is a good trend that has influenced and will still affect positively the price of BTC. This is most likely the next step in the adoption of BTC in the world. Thanks to these large companies, dozens and hundreds of smaller companies and funds will start using BTC, and this in turn will make many new people holders of BTC. Based on this, the BTC rate can fly very high, which will certainly give an excellent profit to everyone who has already bought BTC.
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February 07, 2021, 10:46:06 PM
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Personally I don't think that many companies will invest in BTC. Rich people yes, but not companies. Fiat money is fine for companies, if it's devalued, then they raise their prices, and their share price rises too, so they don't really lose out. The exception might be companies with tons of cash, like Apple, but such companies are pretty rare.
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February 07, 2021, 11:32:01 PM
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Personally I don't think that many companies will invest in BTC. Rich people yes, but not companies. Fiat money is fine for companies, if it's devalued, then they raise their prices, and their share price rises too, so they don't really lose out. The exception might be companies with tons of cash, like Apple, but such companies are pretty rare.

I dont know if you do see on those image that been posted in OP, arent those companies that you are talking into? If we do talk about devalued topic then
its impossible to think that those companies arent fully aware on the possibilities. Take for example on what Paypal had done on accepting or integrating bitcoin
into their company.This might not really be talking some sort of product-based but rather service based ones but it didnt really affect on how  they do
make up charges or fees.Its really amazing on how these companies do make out some consideration on purchasing lots of bitcoin, yes it does have cons
but lets look at on the brighter side first.

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February 08, 2021, 04:49:49 PM
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Tesla announced Monday it has bought $1.5 billion worth of bitcoin
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/tesla-buys-15-billion-bitcoin-plans-start-accepting-payment-rcna265

if multiplied by the current Bitcoin price ($43k x 15.000.000.000) then the amount of Bitcoin that Tesla bought is approx 43.319 BTC (enough to buy tens of thousands of Tesla cars)  

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February 08, 2021, 10:35:43 PM
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Personally I don't think that many companies will invest in BTC. Rich people yes, but not companies. Fiat money is fine for companies, if it's devalued, then they raise their prices, and their share price rises too, so they don't really lose out. The exception might be companies with tons of cash, like Apple, but such companies are pretty rare.
It may not be applicable before but they already did especially during pandemic last year, the price of bitcoin now tells it all that many already invested in bitcoin even the big companies. There are already known companies who uses these like paypal , grayscale and etc. The world is different now even in in terms of investing were most stocks affected by the economic problem, many companies finds way to still make their investment work maybe in a better way.

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February 08, 2021, 10:53:15 PM
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It may not be applicable before but they already did especially during pandemic last year, the price of bitcoin now tells it all that many already invested in bitcoin even the big companies. There are already known companies who uses these like paypal , grayscale and etc. The world is different now even in in terms of investing were most stocks affected by the economic problem, many companies finds way to still make their investment work maybe in a better way.

You are right mate as they had been accumulating silently since the pandemic began and prices crashed down quickly. They were worried about where to put their money and crypto started flashing opportunities for them which they grabbed then, and now, they must all be busy partying. Crypto was way underrated before when only retailers were the king of markets, now institutions have taken over and changed the whole picture.
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February 09, 2021, 12:58:47 AM
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If there more companies holding Bitcoin, that means the price will surely get higher in the future. This also means, that Bitcoin will become one of the top currency worldwide in terms of top 5 currency I guess. What do you think? Moreover, if there's company holding 10k Bitcoins it means, they believed that Bitcoin will definitely increase big this year of 2021.
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February 15, 2021, 10:23:53 AM
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I knew that the greater part of the organization is putting resources into bitcoins. However, I didn't know they're contributing that much.
Allow more organizations to put resources into bitcoin, so it assists with fluctuating the bitcoin's worth.
I imagine that is the primary motivation behind why bitcoin is currently higher than $20,000 and is giving a positive indication. However, I am apprehensive about what will occur if all the organizations sell their coins all at once? Isn't it impact the bitcoin's worth, and it goes down?.
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February 15, 2021, 11:37:03 AM
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I knew that the greater part of the organization is putting resources into bitcoins. However, I didn't know they're contributing that much.
Allow more organizations to put resources into bitcoin, so it assists with fluctuating the bitcoin's worth.
I imagine that is the primary motivation behind why bitcoin is currently higher than $20,000 and is giving a positive indication. However, I am apprehensive about what will occur if all the organizations sell their coins all at once? Isn't it impact the bitcoin's worth, and it goes down?.

And the highlight is that bits with shades of gray and micro-strategies may not buy, but rather accept from large players, exchanging them for stocks or their own derivatives in order to legitimize the crypt after all taxes and fees have been paid. This could be a step forward towards future industry regulation - no one wants to prove to Fatf and the banks where the $ 100 billion crypt came from and what money it was bought for.
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February 18, 2021, 05:33:11 AM
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I knew that the greater part of the organization is putting resources into bitcoins. However, I didn't know they're contributing that much.
Allow more organizations to put resources into bitcoin, so it assists with fluctuating the bitcoin's worth.
I imagine that is the primary motivation behind why bitcoin is currently higher than $20,000 and is giving a positive indication. However, I am apprehensive about what will occur if all the organizations sell their coins all at once? Isn't it impact the bitcoin's worth, and it goes down?.

And the highlight is that bits with shades of gray and micro-strategies may not buy, but rather accept from large players, exchanging them for stocks or their own derivatives in order to legitimize the crypt after all taxes and fees have been paid. This could be a step forward towards future industry regulation - no one wants to prove to Fatf and the banks where the $ 100 billion crypt came from and what money it was bought for.

I am happy by observing such measure of bitcoin that organizations are holding. I believe that bitcoin has a bright future, and now nobody can stop its development. For me, they're the genuine financial specialists who help to support the bitcoins market. I hope more organizations consider bitcoin and contribute to it. The government ought to likewise think for digital money, and they should feel that how bitcoins can assist with improving the economy.
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February 25, 2021, 08:12:40 AM
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If there more companies holding Bitcoin, that means the price will surely get higher in the future. This also means, that Bitcoin will become one of the top currency worldwide in terms of top 5 currency I guess. What do you think? Moreover, if there's company holding 10k Bitcoins it means, they believed that Bitcoin will definitely increase big this year of 2021.

Isn't that is the most compelling motivation why bitcoin is siphoning? perhaps yes. Since every one of these organizations holding the greatest measure of bitcoins and I personally think about how to show long been they're holding it. I figure these organizations did profoundly contribute to bitcoin's market and now we're seeing the value ATH. What about their government? what will occur on the off chance that they come to think about such holding? They should keep it secured and shouldn't reveal it in public
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February 25, 2021, 10:35:36 AM
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When you see these figures and the likes of Tesla and MicroStrategy are not included in the list plus there are rumors some of these big companies are still buying or going to buy the when people mentioned 1BTC will cost $1 million you should not doubt it, the good thing about these companies is that they are not like a retail investors that move their BTC to exchanges every time there is a price action

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February 25, 2021, 10:49:03 AM
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It definitely helps the price to go up because those are famous companies but sometimes I'm wondering what's their ultimate goal by holding that big amount, it can greatly affect the market once they sold it. They can take profit anytime causing for small holders to panic sell. It's even an opportunity for them to buy again at that moment. Early adopters of bitcoin will be afraid to buy again if they can do that. Their wealth gets bigger as the value of bitcoin increases.
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February 26, 2021, 09:35:09 AM
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I knew that the greater part of the organization is putting resources into bitcoins. However, I didn't know they're contributing that much.
Allow more organizations to put resources into bitcoin, so it assists with fluctuating the bitcoin's worth.
I imagine that is the primary motivation behind why bitcoin is currently higher than $20,000 and is giving a positive indication. However, I am apprehensive about what will occur if all the organizations sell their coins all at once? Isn't it impact the bitcoin's worth, and it goes down?.
Although I think there are lots of companies like the ones mentioned in OP hold Bitcoins and some hidden ones must also be holding a good amount of bitcoins but I also think that a lot of companies must have sold a big part of their bitcoins so the mentioned companies might actually not hold as much as mentioned.

Bitcoin price is so high because adoption has increased because when these big companies buy bitcoins, they also attract some small investors. When Tesla said they are accepting Bitcoins, I am sure a lot of people would have bought bitcoins for the first time, not to buy the car but because everyone gets interested what asset is it that the biggest car company Tesla is accepting now.

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February 27, 2021, 08:01:59 AM
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It is clear that large companies are buying bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to insure their capital from inflation. Also of the banking system that is obsolete, it is the beginning because traditional finance will migrate to digital and decentralized finance from cryptocurrencies.
Perhaps you will be as proud as I was to have discovered bitcoin and cryptocurrencies because we are ahead of the future.

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February 27, 2021, 10:22:32 AM
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It is clear that large companies are buying bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to insure their capital from inflation. Also of the banking system that is obsolete, it is the beginning because traditional finance will migrate to digital and decentralized finance from cryptocurrencies.
Perhaps you will be as proud as I was to have discovered bitcoin and cryptocurrencies because we are ahead of the future.
It is really clear sometimes there are into the news that most of their profit from their company is going into bitcoin investment  no one or single people can invest high percentage of bitcoin why? because they not even a billionaire like other's but most of the companies owner believing that the crypto currency is the future this is the biggest impact that happened in bitcoin history now we are all looking forward people are optimistic no one can blame it coz as what you said people are proud that they knew bitcoin too even me because of my profit help's me with my financial needs.
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It is good to say that those companies were very interested and realized the future potential of bitcoin. What is clear is that the more bitcoin holder in large numbers, the higher the price, which mean that there are fewer bitcoin circulating on the exchange.

According to the CMC site, currently only 89% of the bitcoin supply is in circulation and the rest may have been frozen due to user error. This will of course result in a higher level of scarcity and we will see price continue to rise. The bullish are still not over despite the current correction, but we won't be surprised if the price will hit a new ATH again.

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February 27, 2021, 03:57:20 PM
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It is an advantage for us traders if there are some companies who hold so much amount of bitcoins. In this way, the more holders , the lesser the circulation of bitcoins will be. In this case, the price of bitcoin will increase in a period of time. So let them hold as much as they want. And for us' small time traders, just keep patience on holding ours.
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February 27, 2021, 05:45:52 PM
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It is an advantage for us traders if there are some companies who hold so much amount of bitcoins. In this way, the more holders , the lesser the circulation of bitcoins will be. In this case, the price of bitcoin will increase in a period of time. So let them hold as much as they want. And for us' small time traders, just keep patience on holding ours.

The thing is the more we hold bitcoins for ourselves to save it for the future and do not use it as an active currency to pay for something the less people get to know what this currency actually is. The consequences of it is that the info about bitcoin will not be spread and it won't be popular enough.

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February 27, 2021, 05:53:35 PM
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It is an advantage for us traders if there are some companies who hold so much amount of bitcoins. In this way, the more holders , the lesser the circulation of bitcoins will be. In this case, the price of bitcoin will increase in a period of time. So let them hold as much as they want. And for us' small time traders, just keep patience on holding ours.

you are right. This price works for us. As corporate purchases arrive, it becomes more difficult for the price to fall. As long as institutions do not sell, we continue to maintain certain levels.
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