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January 29, 2021, 06:14:19 AM
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I have a question. Will the company control the price of Bitcoin if it holds more Bitcoin? Will it affect individual investors?
Yes it will be, if they can dump more bitcoin back into supply, the more that people will feel the waves/the prices. Think of it as supply monopoly, the one who holds a bigger percentage of supply can influence what will be the next step, that monopoly could crush the prices or buy more to make it more expensive and sell it to individual at a higher price. Yes, it will affect individual investors, they are part of the market too.

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January 29, 2021, 06:36:50 AM
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In fact, it’s not difficult to own 10,000 Bitcoins, it’s about 300 million dollars equivalent to a listed company.
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January 29, 2021, 07:04:55 AM
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As their investment increases and the difficulty of Bitcoin mining increases, Bitcoin will continue to rise.
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January 29, 2021, 12:51:07 PM
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Those companies who held thousands of bitcoin are helpful to the bitcoin to increase the price or to maintain the price but if those companies sell their bitcoin that they hold it will cause for the bitcoin to dump. But it is really cause to the bitcoin to manipulate the value because they have a lot of bitcoins or money so they can dump bitcoin or pump when ever they want.
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February 06, 2021, 12:43:42 PM
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And I bet that other companies might slowly follow suit. I can see it coming. The Bitcoin adoption is getting even better than ever (except for those countries who ban them or are trying to criminalize citizens who own crypto assets). If more financial institutions are going to buy more Bitcoin even at this price, it will just continue to grow in terms of price, ownership and demand.

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February 06, 2021, 04:08:52 PM
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And I bet that other companies might slowly follow suit. I can see it coming. The Bitcoin adoption is getting even better than ever (except for those countries who ban them or are trying to criminalize citizens who own crypto assets). If more financial institutions are going to buy more Bitcoin even at this price, it will just continue to grow in terms of price, ownership and demand.
I only see some important people now who have started to take an interest in bitcoin so it is not impossible that some companies will also buy and hold it for a long time to stabilize their finances, but I think that adoption has occurred years before it's just now the peak of the increase. bitcoin price is slowly certain, but indeed no one knows which company is buying bitcoin.
I believe in the next few years the demand will increase as important people tweet about crypto.

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February 06, 2021, 04:41:20 PM
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I'm not familiar with some of these names on here, but Microstrategy is one of the few that actually owns the bitcoins they hold. Entries like Grayscale or Mt Gox own bitcoin on behalf of others, so there's no conclusion to be drawn from them holding it.
We do not even know if that company really holding more than 10000 bitcoin.
Even if they claim that they holding that amount, but without showing their wallet address that holds that amount, we do not have to trust it.
Let them saying like that while we can do our business to get more bitcoin in many ways, so we do not have to miss the chance to sell bitcoin at the highest price.
I am not familiar too with that list, so I do not overthink about them because what I am concern about now is I need to make a profit in bitcoin before it is too late for me to have many bitcoin.

They're a publicly traded company. Making a statement like this without it being true would be a material misrepresentation and Saylor would be hit with investment fraud by the SEC. I'm guessing he learned his lesson from the first time that happened when he was hit with fraud for overstating MicroStrategy's books during the dotcom crash and paid more than $8.6 million dollars in fees and penalties. I'm not a fan of Saylor at all but I believe him when he says he MSTR owns X bitcoins because the penalty for lying about this would be so severe.

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February 06, 2021, 04:51:16 PM
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Those companies who held thousands of bitcoin are helpful to the bitcoin to increase the price or to maintain the price but if those companies sell their bitcoin that they hold it will cause for the bitcoin to dump. But it is really cause to the bitcoin to manipulate the value because they have a lot of bitcoins or money so they can dump bitcoin or pump when ever they want.
Indeed, it was a rough scenario they made up. However, I doubt they will do these things as long as they still consider that bitcoin is safe and promising to be choosen as a store value. And I guess it has happened now, bitcoin price has been increasing a lot since Maret 2019 ago and even has been defeating many investment place in this world.

It means, you will still hold bitcoin they had, they will sell bitcoin to take a profit and buy again when they thing bitcoin will up again. They will not sell bitcoin without a reason and try to tease the market movement, I guess they can't do that given bitcoin price is high already also they will be many buy order that hasn't been reached, as we can see everytime bitcoin fall there will be a huge increase.
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February 07, 2021, 09:39:09 AM
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GrayScale had been insanely buying BTC since its least values which is why their holdings are so high as they took people's money as an investment and as their name speaks for themselves, I believe they've got enough high-scale investors which gave this institution the buying power it needed to grab an extremely big share of BTC. Mind well, that when these institutions will start selling, the size of blood bath will be even bigger than the size of their holdings atm, but as this is just the beginning, enjoy. Wink

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February 07, 2021, 12:28:12 PM
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And I bet that other companies might slowly follow suit. I can see it coming. The Bitcoin adoption is getting even better than ever (except for those countries who ban them or are trying to criminalize citizens who own crypto assets). If more financial institutions are going to buy more Bitcoin even at this price, it will just continue to grow in terms of price, ownership and demand.
What we need now is not more companies that invest in cryptocurrencies, what we need is for governments to start acknowledging cryptocurrencies, with companies that are based on only one country hogging all the bitcoin for themselves, there will be no true adoption as there will become a monopoly of bitcoin power because the cryptocurrencies are only concentrated in one place with a limited amount of people albeit small amount of people. The price may rise but the people knowing about bitcoin or a big adoption will not happen because governments are stubborn to accept cryptocurrencies.

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February 07, 2021, 02:19:06 PM
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They have big helpful to the community to the bitcoin if they purpose is to hold a bitcoin but if they reason is to manipulaye the market that is not good. Because the more they hold once they sell it they have huge impact to the market, it's better to have a lot of small investors instead of having a big company who invest a lot because they can do what ever they want to the market.
It is a kind of double-edged sword they can be helpful because they hold a vast amount of Bitcoin and with that note, the demand will get higher leading for Bitcoin's value to go up as well but bear in mind that that vast amount of holding can be dangerous for us because they easily manipulate the market in their favor. Thus, I agree that I prefer to have a lot of small investors so that the market could move without anyone controlling it. For now, we've been making gains from their holding but what if they decided to sell off? I think that would be devastating.



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February 07, 2021, 03:08:31 PM
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I believe that this is a good trend that has influenced and will still affect positively the price of BTC. This is most likely the next step in the adoption of BTC in the world. Thanks to these large companies, dozens and hundreds of smaller companies and funds will start using BTC, and this in turn will make many new people holders of BTC. Based on this, the BTC rate can fly very high, which will certainly give an excellent profit to everyone who has already bought BTC.
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February 07, 2021, 10:46:06 PM
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Personally I don't think that many companies will invest in BTC. Rich people yes, but not companies. Fiat money is fine for companies, if it's devalued, then they raise their prices, and their share price rises too, so they don't really lose out. The exception might be companies with tons of cash, like Apple, but such companies are pretty rare.
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February 07, 2021, 11:32:01 PM
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Personally I don't think that many companies will invest in BTC. Rich people yes, but not companies. Fiat money is fine for companies, if it's devalued, then they raise their prices, and their share price rises too, so they don't really lose out. The exception might be companies with tons of cash, like Apple, but such companies are pretty rare.

I dont know if you do see on those image that been posted in OP, arent those companies that you are talking into? If we do talk about devalued topic then
its impossible to think that those companies arent fully aware on the possibilities. Take for example on what Paypal had done on accepting or integrating bitcoin
into their company.This might not really be talking some sort of product-based but rather service based ones but it didnt really affect on how  they do
make up charges or fees.Its really amazing on how these companies do make out some consideration on purchasing lots of bitcoin, yes it does have cons
but lets look at on the brighter side first.

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February 08, 2021, 04:49:49 PM
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Tesla announced Monday it has bought $1.5 billion worth of bitcoin
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/tesla-buys-15-billion-bitcoin-plans-start-accepting-payment-rcna265

if multiplied by the current Bitcoin price ($43k x 15.000.000.000) then the amount of Bitcoin that Tesla bought is approx 43.319 BTC (enough to buy tens of thousands of Tesla cars)  

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February 08, 2021, 10:35:43 PM
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Personally I don't think that many companies will invest in BTC. Rich people yes, but not companies. Fiat money is fine for companies, if it's devalued, then they raise their prices, and their share price rises too, so they don't really lose out. The exception might be companies with tons of cash, like Apple, but such companies are pretty rare.
It may not be applicable before but they already did especially during pandemic last year, the price of bitcoin now tells it all that many already invested in bitcoin even the big companies. There are already known companies who uses these like paypal , grayscale and etc. The world is different now even in in terms of investing were most stocks affected by the economic problem, many companies finds way to still make their investment work maybe in a better way.
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February 08, 2021, 10:53:15 PM
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It may not be applicable before but they already did especially during pandemic last year, the price of bitcoin now tells it all that many already invested in bitcoin even the big companies. There are already known companies who uses these like paypal , grayscale and etc. The world is different now even in in terms of investing were most stocks affected by the economic problem, many companies finds way to still make their investment work maybe in a better way.

You are right mate as they had been accumulating silently since the pandemic began and prices crashed down quickly. They were worried about where to put their money and crypto started flashing opportunities for them which they grabbed then, and now, they must all be busy partying. Crypto was way underrated before when only retailers were the king of markets, now institutions have taken over and changed the whole picture.
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February 09, 2021, 12:58:47 AM
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If there more companies holding Bitcoin, that means the price will surely get higher in the future. This also means, that Bitcoin will become one of the top currency worldwide in terms of top 5 currency I guess. What do you think? Moreover, if there's company holding 10k Bitcoins it means, they believed that Bitcoin will definitely increase big this year of 2021.
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February 15, 2021, 10:23:53 AM
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I knew that the greater part of the organization is putting resources into bitcoins. However, I didn't know they're contributing that much.
Allow more organizations to put resources into bitcoin, so it assists with fluctuating the bitcoin's worth.
I imagine that is the primary motivation behind why bitcoin is currently higher than $20,000 and is giving a positive indication. However, I am apprehensive about what will occur if all the organizations sell their coins all at once? Isn't it impact the bitcoin's worth, and it goes down?.
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February 15, 2021, 11:37:03 AM
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I knew that the greater part of the organization is putting resources into bitcoins. However, I didn't know they're contributing that much.
Allow more organizations to put resources into bitcoin, so it assists with fluctuating the bitcoin's worth.
I imagine that is the primary motivation behind why bitcoin is currently higher than $20,000 and is giving a positive indication. However, I am apprehensive about what will occur if all the organizations sell their coins all at once? Isn't it impact the bitcoin's worth, and it goes down?.

And the highlight is that bits with shades of gray and micro-strategies may not buy, but rather accept from large players, exchanging them for stocks or their own derivatives in order to legitimize the crypt after all taxes and fees have been paid. This could be a step forward towards future industry regulation - no one wants to prove to Fatf and the banks where the $ 100 billion crypt came from and what money it was bought for.
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