Best Way to Carry Your Seed When Traveling Or Moving Abroad?

[Nightz]

How about learn it by heart and make sure not to get too wasted and completely forget it? Indeed not that trivial, there is risk involved with whatever option you go for.
Jokes aside, would one option be to divide up the seed and give it to three people? One maybe even a lawyer or so? Or even 6 people, so 2 times 3. That way you have a copy of it.

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[vapourminer]

I heard about yubikey but what happens if its lost or stops working though?

its recommended you buy several (well at least two) and register each of them with the services you use as so to have at least one backup as any of them will work at that point... and since trezors can be configured as as a yubikey a trezor counts as a backup. with the trezor in yubikey mode it still uses seed words so if your trezor dies or gets lost you can restore the seed to a new trezor and it will function as the same yubikey.

[Leviathan.007]

Actually, some people write the seeds on a peace of paper and take it with them whenever they travel somewhere but it's not secure because anyone can find the paper and abuse your recover seed words. That's why I do prefer to read/write the recovery seeds for multiple times and try to always remember the words. That's how I keep my recover phases, these are inside my mind and none can ever steal mt recovery methods.

[rodskee]

I may say that Writing in a Piece of Paper is the best way to be secured and safest to travel with you.

a Piece of paper can be in your sleeves, or even under your socks .

Just don't make it harder mate , Because not unless the criminal already Knew your situation from crypto then they will target you whatever you say.

[grabpopcorn536]

There are many ways to store the seeds, I send them to my friends in the email message box or social media. Before I send it I will change a few characters that only I know.
Another way is I send a message in the Saved section of my Telegram account.
If you don't need a cryptocurrency, you don't need to care about the seed chain.

this is the worst possible way to store the seed and the "change a few character that only i know" is next to worthless. might as well publish it on a billboard for all the security it gives.

I think it's the safest and easiest way to securely store a seed chain.
Instead of remembering the entire character, we can change some details and publicly store it wherever we want.

[hongchao123]

Words in the book is the best option is you are really care about it. I store my phrase in usb and it was never checked in airports

[Anonylz]

How about learn it by heart and make sure not to get too wasted and completely forget it? Indeed not that trivial, there is risk involved with whatever option you go for.
Jokes aside, would one option be to divide up the seed and give it to three people? One maybe even a lawyer or so? Or even 6 people, so 2 times 3. That way you have a copy of it.

Actually I think this is a great idea and lot much safer imo, i don't think it is a joke, if anyone can use a combination of things names they are familiar with on the phrase there is very little chance you will forget this combination, because as much as we try to be care and protect our hardware wallet, there is still that chance of misplacing it some how, but if anyone is able to memorise keys as well as write it down somewhere safe in lock and key that will be even better.

[Nightz]

How about learn it by heart and make sure not to get too wasted and completely forget it? Indeed not that trivial, there is risk involved with whatever option you go for.
Jokes aside, would one option be to divide up the seed and give it to three people? One maybe even a lawyer or so? Or even 6 people, so 2 times 3. That way you have a copy of it.

Actually I think this is a great idea and lot much safer imo, i don't think it is a joke, if anyone can use a combination of things names they are familiar with on the phrase there is very little chance you will forget this combination, because as much as we try to be care and protect our hardware wallet, there is still that chance of misplacing it some how, but if anyone is able to memorise keys as well as write it down somewhere safe in lock and key that will be even better.

No, I mean on paper. Say you have a 24 word seed phrase and you split it up in 3 x 8 words and distribute two copies of each to 6 people you trust. It is important that these six people don't really know each other. At least those who hold a different piece of paper shouldn't know each other. You could give two copies of the same to family. But there is another risk: imagine you start an argument with your family for a weird reason and two siblings unite against you and don't want to hand out the third piece of the puzzle and blackmail. This is a complicated problem.

What about a system that works with smart contracts and oracles. For example, you store your seed in a digital blockchain-based vault. The login to that vault is a specified email. It only opens if you type in the password, and a specified so called 3 out of 4 multisig. For example, you could specify that if in a certain time window I log into the vault, say between 3:00 PM - 4:00 PM timezone x, in that time window I use my 2fa on my mobile phone (authenticator), log into Facebook, Linkedin or Twitter (3 out of 4 in total), then my vault opens and I can access the seed. If it does not work out because I lose my phone and I don't know, Facebook is down, I can specify a second email address that a code is released to after say four weeks of not logging in. If the vault afterwards still is not accessed, the vault assumes that I am dead.In that case I can specify the procedure that ensures my heirs get access. For example, specify their email addresses to be contacted next with the necessary instructions to access the vault.

Does that make sense?

[jerry0]

How can you give the seed to multiple people?  What if something happens to one of them?  Then what happens?  What if you no longer talk to them or they don't want to talk to you even?

[jerry0]

How in the world is it safe carrying the seed with you when it travels?  I mean if you lose it or anything like that... where is your backup?  Or is that your only backup?


I know lot of ppl seem to be against storing it in a password manager like lastpass/keepass and then storing it in the cloud... such as dropbox or gmail...


But why do very few ppl seem to like the idea of multiple safe deposit boxes at multiple different banks?  I mean if you had say 50k worth of crypto... well having multiple deposit boxes cost say 250 dollars total with a few boxes.  Isn't that still good insurance since you paying that much to protect your 50k worth of crypto?  Now imagine its l00k worth of crypto or more.  Or someone with 500k worth of crypto or more.  Do people that like literally just keep a seed on paper and leave it at apartment/home?  Surely for ppl with huge amounts of crypto... safe deposit boxes at multiple safe deposit banks make most sense?

[isaac_clarke22]

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I wouldn't even trust any single cloud storage out there even if by under Google.
People should think that whatever they upload to a cloud service is gonna be always vulnerable, because surely that piece of a web application is written by someone and it is just a matter of exploits and your money is all goner.

[dimonstration]

I may say that Writing in a Piece of Paper is the best way to be secured and safest to travel with you.

a Piece of paper can be in your sleeves, or even under your socks .

Just don't make it harder mate , Because not unless the criminal already Knew your situation from crypto then they will target you whatever you say.

In writing it there must be some hidden notes added to avoid theft or use from other users who might know too how these codes works. Usually I put some extra letters or numbers in some words whenever I save password, may it be from writing or typing it at my notes or drive. When we already try doing it we can easily remember where we put the additional text or codes.

[Nightz]

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I wouldn't even trust any single cloud storage out there even if by under Google.
People should think that whatever they upload to a cloud service is gonna be always vulnerable, because surely that piece of a web application is written by someone and it is just a matter of exploits and your money is all goner.

Absolutely not. I mean if seriously upload private keys or seed phrases into the cloud and you own a lot of crypto, you really need some balls!

[syedzakir]

Well the seed phrase is something you need to keep safe as it is the only way to get access to your account in case of forgotten password.
So keeping it safe is very important.
While moving to abroad we need to keep it by ourselves. But how to keep it is the actual problem.
Well I think keeping it online is not safe but making a word file of it and keeping it encrypted in your smartphone is the best option.

[Eruly_6]

I use cryptocurrency a lot. I enjoy investing and trading whenever I have the chance to do it. When I had to move out, I freaked out about my coins and how to stow my computer in my self place. Even though I encrypted my hardware wallet, I was still afraid to cross borders. My friend told me he had the same problem, https://sekamoving.com/moving/local-movers/, and helped him store his progress. I assume I was lucky that no one searched my bags, and I managed to keep my seeds safe. However, it all depends on what you did to obtain the coins.

[Henrobakkara]

What do you mean by storing your seed online ? You're getting my pulse racing ! To me that's where a seed should never be. It should be in a safe, physical place.

For traveling, I could see several options. For example having the words in several chunks, one bit in your wallet (the one with the fiat I mean), one bit as an encrypted file on your smartphone, one bit on an encrypted file on a USB key.

But to be honest a hardware wallet is enough for me, I don't really envision the need to have my seed always with me.

I agree with you and would do the same here. I think that we might be thinking of this too hard because most of us have taken these trips before without carrying something like wallet seeds with us, was the crossing that difficult without your seeds? so I don't think it should be seen as this herculean task not unless you are a wonted person anyways.

[stomachgrowls]

What do you mean by storing your seed online ? You're getting my pulse racing ! To me that's where a seed should never be. It should be in a safe, physical place.

For traveling, I could see several options. For example having the words in several chunks, one bit in your wallet (the one with the fiat I mean), one bit as an encrypted file on your smartphone, one bit on an encrypted file on a USB key.

But to be honest a hardware wallet is enough for me, I don't really envision the need to have my seed always with me.

I agree with you and would do the same here. I think that we might be thinking of this too hard because most of us have taken these trips before without carrying something like wallet seeds with us, was the crossing that difficult without your seeds? so I don't think it should be seen as this herculean task not unless you are a wonted person anyways.

Why do people do really make out some things to be complicated if you could really do such stuffs without any problem? Even on minding about on how to carry out your seed?

Its not really that hard and same as you said as long you arent a wanted person then i dont see for a reason for you to be that paranoid with your PK.
As long on a particular country isnt really that strict with crypto or does have total ban then i dont see for you to worry.

[Marykeller]

For me, this is the method I normally use each time am travelling to a far place, I will screenshot my seed phrase, store it into hidden files in my gadget(where no one can think of opening it). The moment I get to my destination, I will write down my seed phrase on a piece of paper. After writing it down, I will then delete the screenshot seed phrase out of my gadget quietly.

[noormcs5]

How about learn it by heart and make sure not to get too wasted and completely forget it? Indeed not that trivial, there is risk involved with whatever option you go for.
Jokes aside, would one option be to divide up the seed and give it to three people? One maybe even a lawyer or so? Or even 6 people, so 2 times 3. That way you have a copy of it.

Remember seed by heart is not a practical approach as you can forget or mix up the words and may never access the wallet. I would not recommend storing the seed online like email etc as those are not the recommended ways to store your private keys.
Why not take 2 or 3 notebooks with you which are totally filled with text and you store seed texts in different pages. Now on one will be able to guess the seed from hundreds of rough work being done in the notebooks.

[Tolosi]

Make a TrueCrypt file with a very strong passphrase.
Store this encrypted file somewhere on internet possibly not directly connected with you.
Encrypt passphrase with a simple password known only to you - 6 number pin + some letters in second truecrypt file.
Send 2nd file to yourself on the travel day.
Upon arrival decrypt both files, create new wallet and transfer all coins to this new wallet.