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January 12, 2021, 03:19:14 PM
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This pandemic is very much making small people die mentally and physically.
Where I live many small communities are confused to make ends meet because they have lost their jobs and their money savings have also run out.
If this covid is not finished, I do not know how they can meet the needs of life, the economy is very bad.
You are right mate, the virus take's away our relatives, siblings and also render hopeless to people in different angle because many people lost their lifes because inadquate of govenment to control the virus, really the covid has come to an end since the vaccine is out its only politician's that seeing it as a sources of revenue to exploit in life by introducing second lockdown without knowing how people suffer in their areas.


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January 12, 2021, 03:19:58 PM
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This pandemic is very much making small people die mentally and physically.
Where I live many small communities are confused to make ends meet because they have lost their jobs and their money savings have also run out.
If this covid is not finished, I do not know how they can meet the needs of life, the economy is very bad.
You are right mate, the virus take's away our relatives, siblings and also render hopeless to people in different angle because many people lost their lifes because inadquate of govenment to control the virus, really the covid has come to an end since the vaccine is out its only politician's that seeing it as a sources of revenue to exploit in life by introducing second lockdown without knowing how people suffer in their areas.
China have any trick and always hidden data to public and close all media how their situation right now, how many people there positive covid 19 still not have any correct information data and always hidden for public and close all news for other country, they are make business with product many vaccine and sell to other country, but I don't know why my country believe with bastard China to buy vaccine without have any proof will be effective or not with vaccine, how come by using vaccine will make condition extremely.

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January 12, 2021, 10:18:42 PM
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This is going to be exceptionally difficult for everyone involved, lockdowns are very hard on people, for the most part people live day by day and they do not have any savings and the few that did most likely have already used them during the pandemic to pay for medical services or just to pay for all what we need to protect ourselves in our daily lives, this means that a new generalized lockdown could be even worse than the first one as people are incapable of taking it anymore.

A choice needs to be made between implementing a lockdown or opting for more deaths and infections from COVID 19. Considering that, the governments don't have any other choice available. Anyway, it is just a matter of one or two months. By then, the peak winter will be over in the Northern hemisphere and the impact of the vaccination program will be visible.
I hope this is the scenario that happens but even in the US the vaccination has been many times slower than what they thought they would have at this point, and the new strain of the virus is already all over the world and even if many are saying that the vaccine is going to be effective against the new strain I have yet to see a single scientific study saying this is true and until I do so then those claims are nothing but speculation, so while I hope things improve significantly during the next months we cannot discard the possibility that does not happen.
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January 12, 2021, 11:17:07 PM
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It will be painful 4 months for most countries since they will not be able to vaccinate enough people before start of Spring. In May lock downs will stop and economic recovery will finally start. It will take years that economy will get to January 2020 level.
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January 13, 2021, 04:36:01 AM
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It will be painful 4 months for most countries since they will not be able to vaccinate enough people before start of Spring. In May lock downs will stop and economic recovery will finally start. It will take years that economy will get to January 2020 level.

In another month or so, the winter season in the Northern hemisphere will end and that will naturally cause a reduction in the number of new cases. Vaccination is progressing at a very slow pace and therefore I am not expecting it to have a major impact anytime soon. Till now, only 30 million vaccine shots have been administered, out of a global population of 7.7 billion. It is going to take another 6-7 months before we witness the first signs of the vaccination impact.

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January 13, 2021, 05:38:58 AM
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Vaccine doesn't guarantee anyone that they won't get covid19 anymore. We all know that the virus mutated to a new more spreadable strain resulting in some countries banning entry of travelers from another country.
And from what I know, the vaccine is only effective for 4 months so you will need to be vaccinated 3x a year. If this is true, governments won't afford to buy vaccines for their people at this rate.
I also don't want another lockdown but at this rate that some people are careless that they go out like there's no virus, it's likely to happen that a lockdown will happen again if new cases spike up again in the next few weeks.

Don't spread fake news using this platform. Your post is full of BS. The vaccines are effective for a minimum of 24 months, according to the vaccine manufacturers. It's not like you need to get vaccinated 3 times a year. If you still stick with your argument, then post the proof here. Also, the mutation doesn't have anything to do with the lethality. Death rates remain the same, although the virus has become more contagious now.
I don't really trust those vaccines as of now, since it is the first time that it is being manufactured. There's a new strain of covid out there spreading, I know that because I am watching new and this new strain is really dangerous and can infect other people faster, I don't know what are the new symptoms but as far as I know, it is still affecting the immune system of a person. What I am doing now is that I am keeping myself clean every time and keeping myself indoor.
Does that mean the vaccine will not be effective against the new strain? I remembered vividly that the vaccine came out before the new strain was discovered, the rate at which it spreading and contagious rate is quite fearful, the economic impact of these pandemic is very devastating and sadly it is not ending now, I hope the vaccine will be effective in preventing the spread of the new strain once inoculated.

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January 13, 2021, 06:15:40 AM
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It will be painful 4 months for most countries since they will not be able to vaccinate enough people before start of Spring. In May lock downs will stop and economic recovery will finally start. It will take years that economy will get to January 2020 level.
In my country, it is currently in the vaccination program phase, but the fact is that currently there are still a lot of lockdowns due to the spread of the virus, which is getting more and more intense. I have no idea when this will end because honestly many people either lose their jobs or don't have any income. and my country is also experiencing a recession due to corona
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January 13, 2021, 09:13:21 AM
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In another month or so, the winter season in the Northern hemisphere will end and that will naturally cause a reduction in the number of new cases. Vaccination is progressing at a very slow pace and therefore I am not expecting it to have a major impact anytime soon. Till now, only 30 million vaccine shots have been administered, out of a global population of 7.7 billion. It is going to take another 6-7 months before we witness the first signs of the vaccination impact.

I've read that the virus has evolved or mutated and it might affect on the effectiveness of vaccine. I think that due to that number of cases wont change.

In our country vaccination is also a very slow process. It might sound funny, yet it is sad - our government was not prepared for vaccine. Can you imagine that? We have received, if I'm not mistaken, 3 big deliveries and havent distributed them fully. I've read that the amount of distributed vaccine decreases daily. Nonsense! It turned to be there was no plan B, or even plan A for vaccine distribution developed. Health minister thought that "We will cure from covid-19 by ourselves by lockdown and other limitations. We will find the cure (failed) and find that "patient zero"".

 
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January 13, 2021, 11:16:38 AM
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It will be painful 4 months for most countries since they will not be able to vaccinate enough people before start of Spring. In May lock downs will stop and economic recovery will finally start. It will take years that economy will get to January 2020 level.
In my country, it is currently in the vaccination program phase, but the fact is that currently there are still a lot of lockdowns due to the spread of the virus, which is getting more and more intense. I have no idea when this will end because honestly many people either lose their jobs or don't have any income. and my country is also experiencing a recession due to corona

Aside from that it's hard to find a legit vaccine and honestly many people in different countries aren't focusing to take this as a shelter to become free for a killer Covid-19 ,usually many people saying that it is not affordable to a poor person.
I doubt that the vaccine would really be that expensive because not all people will able to avail and the sad reality on where not all are really that have the money to buy out in case if theres already some available
but really much that of expensive.So far there is no official announcement on having that mass production and for those vaccines that had been scattered out then i wont tend to risk on taking those
because it will really take some time for it to prove out to be effective because we are really on the risk on getting those reactions or side effects and i cant just afford to test it out.
Second lockdown due to another strain of covid 19? that would really be putting much more trouble to people and to entire countries in terms of economic ones.

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January 13, 2021, 12:49:09 PM
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My country begin test with vaccine but still not give freedom for many people to go anywhere and keep stay at home, I think what for with vaccine launching without have freedom for many people and keep going any where. Will be vaccine is not effective or only as business project for government and many people take benefit with vaccine. I think better not take vaccine first without see the result and what bad side from vaccine at the human body, will make many bad thing or not.

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January 13, 2021, 04:48:53 PM
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My country begin test with vaccine but still not give freedom for many people to go anywhere and keep stay at home, I think what for with vaccine launching without have freedom for many people and keep going any where. Will be vaccine is not effective or only as business project for government and many people take benefit with vaccine. I think better not take vaccine first without see the result and what bad side from vaccine at the human body, will make many bad thing or not.
My country also started testing and deploying the vaccine right now and the thing is that there is an another virus that has been mutated in which it is more stronger than the Covid19 or another strain of virus. Taking the vaccine very soon was the best thing to do because it is already tested by the professionals and also wait for the results of it in order to be sure that the vaccine is already safe to the covid19 virus.

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January 14, 2021, 12:33:39 PM
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Honestly lockdown is kind of very important when you are dealing with coronavirus so I can't say I agree with you guys. However prevention is the second stage as well so you are right on that part.
We should had just one big lockdown, like maybe 4 months of it, the governments should have given companies and people enough money to survive that period, made the very basic places like groceries or so working so people would get their needs, and after that we would have seen very low numbers. I support "that" lockdown.
However after that, we should enforce very harsh mask rules, anyone who doesn't wear a mask should be charged with involuntary manslaughter, that way we would be saying people that if you are not wearing a mask, you are involuntarily killing others, at least in the law book it should be that way, and we should provide health and masks and disinfectants to everywhere and everyone for free, government gets out taxes for this purpose so we should be getting it back.

On the one hand, it may seem that the survival of the nation is at stake. But if you look at it from a different angle, the question is which creates more real problems - covid or lockdown / isolation.
Covid is a dangerous disease, with its insidious nuances (I myself had been ill with covid in early December 2020, i.e. recently). But I would not call it a fatal pandemic, because of which it is worth killing the economy! I do not presume to judge what is being done with the USA, Britain, China or India. I see what is happening in my country. Yes, people are dying of disease. But this is not a pestilence, as was the case, for example, from the bubonic plague, or the Spanish flu. But with the business happens just pestilence and mass death! Isolation and quarantine lead to the requirement to close shops, private office / production / restrict the work of retail chains / and much more. At the beginning, we do not understand the scale of the tragedy - why has the cafe near the house closed? And these are people without work, without income, who do not pay taxes, BUT will become consumers of social assistance. And with a probability of 85-95% they will never resume their business! Small and small, private business, can form up to 30-40% of the budget! Imagine what the economy will survive, in which budget revenues will fall by 40% and the load and expenditure side will grow by 20-30% (social security of those who have become unemployed)? And then a chain reaction begins - there is no money in the budget = reduction of costs for social services, public services, including MEDICINE. And now, without normal support, patients who were previously TREATED at the expense of budgetary funds for medicine WILL DIE because there is no funds for the purchase of drugs, technical means, etc. Maybe we need to be pragmatists, not alarmists?

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January 14, 2021, 01:16:51 PM
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My country begin test with vaccine but still not give freedom for many people to go anywhere and keep stay at home, I think what for with vaccine launching without have freedom for many people and keep going any where. Will be vaccine is not effective or only as business project for government and many people take benefit with vaccine. I think better not take vaccine first without see the result and what bad side from vaccine at the human body, will make many bad thing or not.
My country also started testing and deploying the vaccine right now and the thing is that there is an another virus that has been mutated in which it is more stronger than the Covid19 or another strain of virus. Taking the vaccine very soon was the best thing to do because it is already tested by the professionals and also wait for the results of it in order to be sure that the vaccine is already safe to the covid19 virus.

I which we had already vaccines for everybody available. At the moment it looks like it will take another 6 month to fully vaccinate everybody in my country which is kind of a long time. I read that the immunity of the vaccine is likely to last only for 1 year. So we might be back to exactly the same place like this year. If these mutations keep on coming it could be the case also that we will need a different vaccine each year.
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January 14, 2021, 02:13:34 PM
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My country begin test with vaccine but still not give freedom for many people to go anywhere and keep stay at home, I think what for with vaccine launching without have freedom for many people and keep going any where. Will be vaccine is not effective or only as business project for government and many people take benefit with vaccine. I think better not take vaccine first without see the result and what bad side from vaccine at the human body, will make many bad thing or not.
My country also started testing and deploying the vaccine right now and the thing is that there is an another virus that has been mutated in which it is more stronger than the Covid19 or another strain of virus. Taking the vaccine very soon was the best thing to do because it is already tested by the professionals and also wait for the results of it in order to be sure that the vaccine is already safe to the covid19 virus.

I which we had already vaccines for everybody available. At the moment it looks like it will take another 6 month to fully vaccinate everybody in my country which is kind of a long time. I read that the immunity of the vaccine is likely to last only for 1 year. So we might be back to exactly the same place like this year. If these mutations keep on coming it could be the case also that we will need a different vaccine each year.
The problem is the Vaccine is not 100% efficient meaning there is still a Possibilities that One wont be cured or Immune in having the Virus again after the vaccination .
But at least it's better than nothing at all because this Virus turned the wolrd turning stops for a while and at some point we seems returning to where we started.
So hopefully this vaccine will Bring us again to our real Life and specially the economy so the Crypto market will go more far from this.

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January 14, 2021, 08:14:25 PM
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The problem is the Vaccine is not 100% efficient meaning there is still a Possibilities that One wont be cured or Immune in having the Virus again after the vaccination .
But at least it's better than nothing at all because this Virus turned the wolrd turning stops for a while and at some point we seems returning to where we started.
So hopefully this vaccine will Bring us again to our real Life and specially the economy so the Crypto market will go more far from this.

Increasing the efficiency to 100% will take a lot of research. Coronavirus was unknown to the scientists until 2020. Yet they managed to create a vaccine that is more than 95% effective. And it is not that easy to create anti-viral vaccines anyway. Because unlike the bacteria and other micro-organisms, the viruses mutate a lot and that makes it very hard to create efficient vaccines. So as of now, there is a significant chance (5% to 10%) of getting COVID 19 despite the vaccination. But at present, vaccination is the best option we got.
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January 14, 2021, 09:25:17 PM
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The problem is the Vaccine is not 100% efficient meaning there is still a Possibilities that One wont be cured or Immune in having the Virus again after the vaccination .
But at least it's better than nothing at all because this Virus turned the wolrd turning stops for a while and at some point we seems returning to where we started.
So hopefully this vaccine will Bring us again to our real Life and specially the economy so the Crypto market will go more far from this.

Increasing the efficiency to 100% will take a lot of research. Coronavirus was unknown to the scientists until 2020. Yet they managed to create a vaccine that is more than 95% effective. And it is not that easy to create anti-viral vaccines anyway. Because unlike the bacteria and other micro-organisms, the viruses mutate a lot and that makes it very hard to create efficient vaccines. So as of now, there is a significant chance (5% to 10%) of getting COVID 19 despite the vaccination. But at present, vaccination is the best option we got.
no such thing as 100 percent effective because if we look on advertisement they only shows us 99 percent at most on the medical products ex. soap , medicine , vitamins and vaccines and take note that most of those products are not new but they still cant perfect it . vaccination isnt the only best option that we got but we have lockdowns , quarantines and tools to prevent getting infected and prevent the virus from further spread and doing those is more safer and natural than taking vaccines that may cause health problems and make the situation more worst .
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January 14, 2021, 09:45:41 PM
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no such thing as 100 percent effective because if we look on advertisement they only shows us 99 percent at most on the medical products ex. soap , medicine , vitamins and vaccines and take note that most of those products are not new but they still cant perfect it . vaccination isnt the only best option that we got but we have lockdowns , quarantines and tools to prevent getting infected and prevent the virus from further spread and doing those is more safer and natural than taking vaccines that may cause health problems and make the situation more worst .
Lockdowns and quarantines have a detrimental effect on economic activity and in the long term can lead to greater mortality and morbidity of other diseases due to a drop in the level of income of the population, so vaccination is usually more effective in the long term than these conservative measures. Also, let's not forget about inconveniences for citizens in the best case or restrictions on rights and freedoms in the worst case.
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no such thing as 100 percent effective because if we look on advertisement they only shows us 99 percent at most on the medical products ex. soap , medicine , vitamins and vaccines and take note that most of those products are not new but they still cant perfect it . vaccination isnt the only best option that we got but we have lockdowns , quarantines and tools to prevent getting infected and prevent the virus from further spread and doing those is more safer and natural than taking vaccines that may cause health problems and make the situation more worst .

You don't need a 100% effective vaccine to prevent the spread of COVID 19. Most of the government agencies are saying that they will approve any vaccine, which shows more than 50% effectiveness. And that is how the vaccine manufactured by Sinopharm got its approval, despite an efficiency of just 50.4%. Even a 50% efficient vaccine will reduce the COVID 19 cases by half. And in most of the countries, the infection rate per patient is around 1. That means that if it is reduced by half, then the pandemic can be contained in a matter of months.

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January 15, 2021, 04:47:27 AM
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The new strain of Corona Virus is slowly spreading and starting to reach different countries. If this spread is not contained at the early stage, we will go back where we started to, another lockdown might happen to secure tat the virus doesn't spread as bad how the firdt wave of Covid did.

It is just not one new strain. There are multiple strains being reported from all around the world, and many of them are highly contagious. It was expected, as more than 90 million people are infected till date and the viruses are known to mutate rapidly. However, the good news is that none of the strains seems to be resistant to the vaccines. So the current bunch of vaccines should be able to contain them.
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there is going to be less people after. I wonder how it will affect wealth?

Will there be a bit more to "go around"?




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