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January 01, 2021, 08:01:49 PM
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Does anyone have an information about: those lucky people who got vaccine shots, should they be on a lockdown together with others or they are free to walk anywhere they want, probably not even wearing mask? Or is a vaccinated person still can be a virus carrier and infect other people?

 
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January 01, 2021, 08:49:33 PM
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It is true that vaccines have been found, but the number is still very limited. Not everyone can get a vaccine, prioritized people who work
in hospitals and the health sector who will get the vaccine first. Therefore, the threat of the spread of the corona virus can still occur, so there is
a possibility that a second lockdown will be carried out by the government.

With evidence of the previous lockdown being quite successful in stopping the spread of the corona virus temporarily, then the government's
choice of conducting a second lockdown will be carried out. Although it will again paralyze the economy, however, the government must have
the courage to take this difficult decision. And hope that more vaccines can be produced, and can be distributed to all people in the world.
So there is no need for another lockdown.

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January 01, 2021, 11:29:18 PM
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The second lockdown is a disturbing and sad situation at the same time. The lives of the people and the country's economy are at stake. The most vulnerable people are the most affected, they need to leave their homes to earn their daily bread.
Sometimes government help is not enough or does not arrive in time to meet their needs.
We need to join in prayer so that we can get out of the crisis quickly.
We must also take security measures and take care of ourselves. Another thing we can do is help a family member, others, or groups in need and thus we try to cope with this crisis.
Let's hope that this second lockdown we will be more disciplined and we will overcome it.

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January 02, 2021, 03:39:07 AM
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Does anyone have an information about: those lucky people who got vaccine shots, should they be on a lockdown together with others or they are free to walk anywhere they want, probably not even wearing mask? Or is a vaccinated person still can be a virus carrier and infect other people?

There will be no exception for those who get vaccinated. They need to follow the same procedures as everyone else. And you need to remember at this point that vaccines (those from Pfizer, Moderna and Gamaleya Research Institute) are not 100% effective. Their efficiency is in the 90%-95% range and therefore you can get infected even if you have undergone vaccination. And regarding the second part, if you are not infected and don't get symptoms like coughing/sneezing, I don't think that there is a risk of infecting anyone else.

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January 02, 2021, 06:33:31 AM
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Does anyone have an information about: those lucky people who got vaccine shots, should they be on a lockdown together with others or they are free to walk anywhere they want, probably not even wearing mask? Or is a vaccinated person still can be a virus carrier and infect other people?

There will be no exception for those who get vaccinated. They need to follow the same procedures as everyone else. And you need to remember at this point that vaccines (those from Pfizer, Moderna and Gamaleya Research Institute) are not 100% effective. Their efficiency is in the 90%-95% range and therefore you can get infected even if you have undergone vaccination. And regarding the second part, if you are not infected and don't get symptoms like coughing/sneezing, I don't think that there is a risk of infecting anyone else.
I think have new covid 19 right now and any country have announcement they got new virus and most danger than covid 19 because very easy to contagious than virus before, how ever vaccine created for virus covid 19 and we don't know work or not for new virus how ever this type most danger than virus covid 19 before. Still not working success how vaccine could stop covid 19 virus because still not have any claimed which one success vaccine right now.

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January 02, 2021, 03:26:38 PM
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The second wave already happens in England, and that makes the government lockdown their country. The other countries follow to lockdown their country from the foreign people who visit their country, and if they already arrive at the airport, the government will make sure that they quarantine that passenger and make sure they are clean before they entering their country. It is another hard work for the government, doctor and nurse, and all people to prevent the attack from the new virus.
I believe the new version found in UK is not only in UK, it was never only in UK, it wasn't something originated there and stayed t here and never left there, I am sure it must be something that is already a bit around the world, maybe not very common right now but it requires extensive research to find if it is not covid19 but the new version, so I am not sure if every other nation does it already.

So, if you ask me I am pretty sure that other nations have it too, or maybe even other nations spread it to UK is possible as well, probably not that much but I am sure UK citizens already spread it around Europe at the very least. However good news is, the new mutation will not be impossible to get fixed very quickly, the regular covid19 took very fast to get a vaccine, just over a year total, considering march or so was the big alarm it was even quicker. So, I think this new mutation will be fixed even faster now that we know how it works.
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So, what we are not sure about (and health experts plus the whole world thinks the same) the vaccine we have for covid 19 will be also very good for the new string of covid as well, the only thing we are not entirely sure about is how much it will be helpful, for covid 19 they see 90%+ success rate, but with the new one that could drop as much as 50% who knows?
The issue is that we are not certain about the vaccine, i have seen reports that some are having serious side affects after taking the dosage and the new strain is serious as it is spreading rapidly than the first one and hence every country is forced to shut down once again to combat the spread and that is the only steps a government can take but it is a huge toll on the common citizens and the success rate of these vaccines are uncertain and there is no clarity regarding it.
The side effects are not as serious as the damage virus itself causes, which is why vaccination is still going on, it doesn't mean that all of them will have some side effect as well, only a few does and compared to the giant problem we are facing with covid right now, that is basically "collateral damage" and accepted already as a payment to get rid of covid all together. The new strain also spreads a lot faster and that is very dangerous however we still have no idea if the vaccination of covid 19 we have now, would be futile against the new strain or would it be still perfect for it, that knowledge is not public yet, so maybe it could be spreading faster but it would be still prevented with the vaccination, or that is at least what we are hoping for at the moment. I would say things are not changing that much, it still looks like we are going to be better in a year.

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January 02, 2021, 09:15:41 PM
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The second lockdown is a disturbing and sad situation at the same time. The lives of the people and the country's economy are at stake. The most vulnerable people are the most affected, they need to leave their homes to earn their daily bread.
Sometimes government help is not enough or does not arrive in time to meet their needs.
We need to join in prayer so that we can get out of the crisis quickly.
We must also take security measures and take care of ourselves. Another thing we can do is help a family member, others, or groups in need and thus we try to cope with this crisis.
Let's hope that this second lockdown we will be more disciplined and we will overcome it.

True what government give to its citizen as help is not enough so many still really need to go out to survive and find foods for their families. The second lockdown will be so much pain if it will happen to my our country the first lockdown is too hard for many already  so what else if  when there is a second lockdown. it will be more difficult for most people especially those who have lost their job and are just looking to find one at this moment,, its hard but they need to find it even this difficult time.
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A second lockdown wouldn't have been necessary for everyone if in the first place huge country leaders chose to impose strict guidelines to follow and included powerful information campaigns to let people know of the dangers of the COVID-19 pandemic, but reality is oftentimes disappointing. Like the US and the Philippines, it will take a really hard push and a really long time before the economy recovers fully.

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January 02, 2021, 10:24:09 PM
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A second lockdown wouldn't have been necessary for everyone if in the first place huge country leaders chose to impose strict guidelines to follow and included powerful information campaigns to let people know of the dangers of the COVID-19 pandemic, but reality is oftentimes disappointing. Like the US and the Philippines, it will take a really hard push and a really long time before the economy recovers fully.
Agreed, I've live on the Philippines and I'm expecting an another lockdown sooner or later once the other strand of Covid gets to our country as our President are having a hard time deciding the a strict guidelines and protocol for this new virus. Sure enough that our country have been affected by too much on economy wise but risking something that will cost our country more damage on the economy by not implementing some strict guidelines is disappointing to hear. And knowing that the government already have a mindset that they'll only set a guidelines once the new strand have set foot on the country is too much to handle.
I really just hope that the vaccine will be available worldwide sooner or later for this Covid19 issue to end and we can all recover to what this tragic event made to us.

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The news about the second lockdown to be implemented really have sound to be alarming for everyone because if we all can remember how difficult life is when we have undergone the first lockdown wherein most of us are really affected due to certain restrictions brought by the implementing health protocols to ensure that we are on control of the spread of virus not to get any further. The second lockdown seems to be alarming but I think it is a must thing to do to avoid the new variant of covid-19 to spread even more which will cause another major problem if that thing will happen. This would be a big sacrifice for all of us for the sake of our own safety.

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January 02, 2021, 11:59:03 PM
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The news about the second lockdown to be implemented really have sound to be alarming for everyone because if we all can remember how difficult life is when we have undergone the first lockdown wherein most of us are really affected due to certain restrictions brought by the implementing health protocols to ensure that we are on control of the spread of virus not to get any further. The second lockdown seems to be alarming but I think it is a must thing to do to avoid the new variant of covid-19 to spread even more which will cause another major problem if that thing will happen. This would be a big sacrifice for all of us for the sake of our own safety.

I think the second time, most of us already know the drill. We survived the first one, and so this second one, will just be another day for all of us. It is hard but we already know how to survive in this challenge. If we will give up this time, all the sacrifices that we endured will be put to waste. Just live one day at a time, and think of good things that will eventually come in this lockdown. Be optimistic even if life seems so unfair and hopeless. We will survive this life.
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The news about the second lockdown to be implemented really have sound to be alarming for everyone because if we all can remember how difficult life is when we have undergone the first lockdown wherein most of us are really affected due to certain restrictions brought by the implementing health protocols to ensure that we are on control of the spread of virus not to get any further. The second lockdown seems to be alarming but I think it is a must thing to do to avoid the new variant of covid-19 to spread even more which will cause another major problem if that thing will happen. This would be a big sacrifice for all of us for the sake of our own safety.

I think the second time, most of us already know the drill. We survived the first one, and so this second one, will just be another day for all of us. It is hard but we already know how to survive in this challenge. If we will give up this time, all the sacrifices that we endured will be put to waste. Just live one day at a time, and think of good things that will eventually come in this lockdown. Be optimistic even if life seems so unfair and hopeless. We will survive this life.
The vaccine has been distributed in some countries which means we still have a chance to fight this virus. The health protocol will be worthless if we don't have any way to cure all the humans who infected. Yeah, it will be worthless if we get used to using masks, washing hands, and bring hand sanitizer to the way we go. Since this virus can be transmitted without in such a way so that it is useless, what is most useful is finding a drug to cure and make our bodies strong from the virus. And we have found it, now we can only see if the vaccine is useful and suitable for the human body.
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The vaccine has been distributed in some countries which means we still have a chance to fight this virus. The health protocol will be worthless if we don't have any way to cure all the humans who infected. Yeah, it will be worthless if we get used to using masks, washing hands, and bring hand sanitizer to the way we go. Since this virus can be transmitted without in such a way so that it is useless, what is most useful is finding a drug to cure and make our bodies strong from the virus. And we have found it, now we can only see if the vaccine is useful and suitable for the human body.

There is another risk factor here. Now that the vaccine has been available for distribution, the youth are going to be even more careless about the restrictions. They need to understand that the risk is there, as long as 100% of the population is not vaccinated. And since the vaccine is not 100% effective, it is going to take some time to eradicate the virus.

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Agreed, I've live on the Philippines and I'm expecting an another lockdown sooner or later once the other strand of Covid gets to our country as our President are having a hard time deciding the a strict guidelines and protocol for this new virus. Sure enough that our country have been affected by too much on economy wise but risking something that will cost our country more damage on the economy by not implementing some strict guidelines is disappointing to hear. And knowing that the government already have a mindset that they'll only set a guidelines once the new strand have set foot on the country is too much to handle.
I really just hope that the vaccine will be available worldwide sooner or later for this Covid19 issue to end and we can all recover to what this tragic event made to us.
Well, that indeed sounds so disappointing. Seems like we still have to wait before implementing strict guidelines. I mean, what?!  Why wait for the new variance to reach our country? Does the saying "prevention is better than cure" not applicable to our country anymore? That's just sad.

But as far as I know, the Philippines has a travel ban for 20 countries including those who have the new variance of the virus already. I just hope that the mutated virus won't reach our country anymore so there won't be the need to have a second lockdown. One is enough and two is too much. Keep safe everyone. And happy new year.

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January 03, 2021, 11:35:12 AM
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The vaccine has been distributed in some countries which means we still have a chance to fight this virus. The health protocol will be worthless if we don't have any way to cure all the humans who infected. Yeah, it will be worthless if we get used to using masks, washing hands, and bring hand sanitizer to the way we go. Since this virus can be transmitted without in such a way so that it is useless, what is most useful is finding a drug to cure and make our bodies strong from the virus. And we have found it, now we can only see if the vaccine is useful and suitable for the human body.

There is another risk factor here. Now that the vaccine has been available for distribution, the youth are going to be even more careless about the restrictions. They need to understand that the risk is there, as long as 100% of the population is not vaccinated. And since the vaccine is not 100% effective, it is going to take some time to eradicate the virus.
I don't believe with vaccine right now because many bed news after testing in some country where vaccine not working well, many people have been die during covid 19 but one year after covid get simulated with vaccine still need testing more how to know vaccine is working well, we don't know when vaccine is working how distribution will be on time and how to make process for giving vaccine to many people without risk get positive covid 19 again.

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January 03, 2021, 01:31:39 PM
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I don't believe with vaccine right now because many bed news after testing in some country where vaccine not working well, many people have been die during covid 19 but one year after covid get simulated with vaccine still need testing more how to know vaccine is working well, we don't know when vaccine is working how distribution will be on time and how to make process for giving vaccine to many people without risk get positive covid 19 again.

No one is forcing you to take the vaccine. First of all, there is an acute shortage of vaccine even in developed nations such as the United States. They were planning to vaccinate up to 20 million people by the end of 2020, but they managed to administer the vaccine (first dose) only to 2 million by that date. So you can skip the vaccination slot (if you qualify for it) and the dosage will go to someone else in need.

And regarding the side effects, so far I haven't heard about any deaths or permanent injury/handicap getting reported during the phase 3 trials.
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I don't believe with vaccine right now because many bed news after testing in some country where vaccine not working well, many people have been die during covid 19 but one year after covid get simulated with vaccine still need testing more how to know vaccine is working well, we don't know when vaccine is working how distribution will be on time and how to make process for giving vaccine to many people without risk get positive covid 19 again.

No one is forcing you to take the vaccine. First of all, there is an acute shortage of vaccine even in developed nations such as the United States. They were planning to vaccinate up to 20 million people by the end of 2020, but they managed to administer the vaccine (first dose) only to 2 million by that date. So you can skip the vaccination slot (if you qualify for it) and the dosage will go to someone else in need.

And regarding the side effects, so far I haven't heard about any deaths or permanent injury/handicap getting reported during the phase 3 trials.
The governments of some countries already have plans to develop certain passports for vaccinated people, and those who will not be vaccinated will have certain restrictions not only in movement, but also in other areas of human activity. Based on this, many people may face a choice.
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January 04, 2021, 04:19:29 AM
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The governments of some countries already have plans to develop certain passports for vaccinated people, and those who will not be vaccinated will have certain restrictions not only in movement, but also in other areas of human activity. Based on this, many people may face a choice.

That sounds fair to me. If someone is refusing to take the vaccine, he is putting himself at an increased risk of getting infected with COVID 19, and at the same time he is increasing the risk for others as well. So the government may not allow the entry of such people in to crowded places such as supermarkets, cinema theatres, sports events.etc. I don't think that there is much to complain about this.

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January 04, 2021, 06:32:27 AM
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I don't believe with vaccine right now because many bed news after testing in some country where vaccine not working well, many people have been die during covid 19 but one year after covid get simulated with vaccine still need testing more how to know vaccine is working well, we don't know when vaccine is working how distribution will be on time and how to make process for giving vaccine to many people without risk get positive covid 19 again.
Vaccine has risk but the benefit outweigh the risk. people will not learn how important vaccine is before they got devastated by the virus themselves.
As an adult you're free to choose to get vaccinated or not but if you really want covid to be gone then starts with vaccine and ofcourse the most safest one from a company that you'd trust.

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