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January 31, 2021, 11:29:45 PM
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People suffer more during lockdowns because the government can not really provide all their needs. The economy will be at risk. Why not go into new normal, wearing face shield and mask and extra careful. I dont think its more safe inside. This virus can be avoided through everyone self discipline. Although vaccines are already on the way, we cannot rely on it until proven effective.
Just at a certain stage of the pandemic, lockdown is much more effective than other methods, another question is that a lockdown that lasts too long after a certain point begins to bring more harm than good, and state authorities that impose restrictions on the movement of citizens should not forget that lockdown is a last resort, which should be used only in exceptional cases.
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February 01, 2021, 02:41:27 AM
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Just at a certain stage of the pandemic, lockdown is much more effective than other methods, another question is that a lockdown that lasts too long after a certain point begins to bring more harm than good, and state authorities that impose restrictions on the movement of citizens should not forget that lockdown is a last resort, which should be used only in exceptional cases.
Lockdown is the last resort but cant guarantee effectiveness due to stubborn people who keep acting against the government. They are not following the rules and still going outside despite of the strict implementation (well its based on our experience here). So after the long lockdown, there seems little improvement but the virus is still there existing.

The economy and the people who abide the rules are greatly affected by this lockdown. Imagine that you comply and did your best to stay at home while other people are roaming around as if there's no virus. Lack of cooperation is the problem thats why up to now we are not covid free yet.
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February 01, 2021, 03:11:41 AM
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Just at a certain stage of the pandemic, lockdown is much more effective than other methods, another question is that a lockdown that lasts too long after a certain point begins to bring more harm than good, and state authorities that impose restrictions on the movement of citizens should not forget that lockdown is a last resort, which should be used only in exceptional cases.

It is very difficult to draw a line. Many of the European countries hesitated to impose a lockdown for the second time, when the number of cases began to rise. But we know what happened in the end. The virus spread beyond all control and the daily death toll touched record highs. The purpose of the lockdown is to keep the pandemic in control, until the vaccination can be completed. And according to the experts, the impact of vaccination will be seen from this month (February) onwards.

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February 01, 2021, 08:17:18 AM
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COVID-19 is far from being controlled. It is difficult for the poor and people in some remote areas to get effective treatment and can only be protected through self-protection. Once infected, it will cause great harm to themselves. What's more, it will take some time for the popularization of vaccines. We can only hope that the whole world can solve this problem in this new year.
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February 01, 2021, 08:27:13 AM
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And according to the experts, the impact of vaccination will be seen from this month (February) onwards.

There are already a good number of vaccine on the market. How they are going to figure out which one will have a better result? Specially when the virus is evolving, and people need to take 2 vaccine shots, with a 2-4 week pause between them. And not to forget that pharmacists always adding and improving something in vaccine. With all that variables, how to get a clear result from vaccination?

 
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February 01, 2021, 11:09:45 AM
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And according to the experts, the impact of vaccination will be seen from this month (February) onwards.

There are already a good number of vaccine on the market. How they are going to figure out which one will have a better result? Specially when the virus is evolving, and people need to take 2 vaccine shots, with a 2-4 week pause between them. And not to forget that pharmacists always adding and improving something in vaccine. With all that variables, how to get a clear result from vaccination?

I have not seen the news about vaccines that have been injected with good results, maybe there is no reaction so this does not cause problems for those who are injected.
Honestly, I have never done vaccination and do not know whether this is to maintain body fitness or just eliminate it because I know the local government does not provide the overall details.
And I also can't conclude that this is perfect because some pharmacists have not confirmed good results.

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February 01, 2021, 11:41:33 AM
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Just at a certain stage of the pandemic, lockdown is much more effective than other methods, another question is that a lockdown that lasts too long after a certain point begins to bring more harm than good, and state authorities that impose restrictions on the movement of citizens should not forget that lockdown is a last resort, which should be used only in exceptional cases.

It is very difficult to draw a line. Many of the European countries hesitated to impose a lockdown for the second time, when the number of cases began to rise. But we know what happened in the end. The virus spread beyond all control and the daily death toll touched record highs. The purpose of the lockdown is to keep the pandemic in control, until the vaccination can be completed. And according to the experts, the impact of vaccination will be seen from this month (February) onwards.

Hopefully that impact is really reliable, the second lockdown is indeed in need to lessen the casualties as the damages not only for medical but also financial from each places that being iinfected the most.

Even the government tried their best to inform and to implement every known rules to avoid this virus, but since this is pandemic is new to everyone and there's no ideas from different sectors of medical experts, they are all trying to find solution for this not just temporary but for the best long term cure for this virus.

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February 01, 2021, 11:47:17 AM
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There are already a good number of vaccine on the market. How they are going to figure out which one will have a better result? Specially when the virus is evolving, and people need to take 2 vaccine shots, with a 2-4 week pause between them. And not to forget that pharmacists always adding and improving something in vaccine. With all that variables, how to get a clear result from vaccination?

Phase III trials have been completed for all of the approved vaccines, and their efficacy is known to everyone now. The rates for various vaccines measured from the Phase III trials are as follows:

Pfizer/BioNTech - 95%
Moderna - 95%
Gamaleya - 91%
Novavax - 89%
Sinopharm - 79%
AstraZeneca/Oxford - 70%
Johnson & Johnson - 66%
Sinovac Biotech - 50%

Many of the countries are using more than 1 vaccine, depending on the availability. But as you can see from the list above, after the vaccination, there will be anywhere from 50% to 95% reduction in the new cases.
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BioNTech/Pfizer; Authorized
Moderna; Authorized
Oxford/AstraZeneca; Authorized
https://www.covid-19vaccinetracker.org/

we can see here that only 3 vaccines are authorized, the rest still have to go through phase 3.  There are still many people in the world who are skeptical about the effectiveness of vaccines, i respect their fears but imo is better at vaccines than lockdown again.

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February 02, 2021, 12:40:44 PM
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This will be the most worst thing to happen if any right government is thinking of enforcing any lockdown right now. The world world at large and businesses are still thinking of how to get out of the mess covid-19 has put everyone into. In terms of global economy meltdown. And every business owners has had their share of this issue. As an entrepreneur and Cryptoprenuer this has reduced my business turn over for more than 6 months now. I think the best thing government can do now is to look for how they can come up with rules and regulations that can be enforced to create an enabling work place that can make people to contit their daily activities. You can ask people to stay home without doing anything, and you have not put in to place palliatives to support them through out this period. Another lockdown is not the best thing right now.

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BioNTech/Pfizer; Authorized
Moderna; Authorized
Oxford/AstraZeneca; Authorized
https://www.covid-19vaccinetracker.org/

we can see here that only 3 vaccines are authorized, the rest still have to go through phase 3.  There are still many people in the world who are skeptical about the effectiveness of vaccines, I respect their fears but IMO is better at vaccines than lockdown again.

Until the problem of the "short immune response" of the organism itself to the virus is solved, the virus itself cannot be defeated. At least due to the fact that mutations have already appeared, the use of existing vaccines against which is ineffective. In theory, the race will now begin - a new strain of the virus = a new vaccine. And here there is only one option - to make a "universal vaccine", but there is no talk about this yet.
Unfortunately, the forecast is still negative, and it is necessary to prepare for several (2-3-5 years) difficult fight against the virus

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February 02, 2021, 12:56:28 PM
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In my country, it's been a year since the lockdown started and it started to make some people really pissed because they are not free to do anything and there is always a fear of getting COVID-19 when you do stuff outside.
Its not about they are worried about being infected but instead they are afraid of the Police and authority lol.
almost everyone in the world suffers from the Lockdown so we must get used into it.
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It makes the economy for certain people becomes lesser and they can't income from home at all. Well, it also their fault because they don't do health protocol like using masks and such, their ego killing themselves.
Don't Just Blame people that ahs infected because even those doctors and frontliners that has complete weapon (PPE ,FaceMask) still have managed to get the Covid.

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BioNTech/Pfizer; Authorized
Moderna; Authorized
Oxford/AstraZeneca; Authorized
https://www.covid-19vaccinetracker.org/

we can see here that only 3 vaccines are authorized, the rest still have to go through phase 3.  There are still many people in the world who are skeptical about the effectiveness of vaccines, I respect their fears but IMO is better at vaccines than lockdown again.

The WHO has authorized only 3 vaccines. But 7 others have been issued EUA (emergency use authorization by various countries). And yesterday, the reputed medical journal Lancet published peer-reviewed result of the Phase III trials of Sputnik V vaccine (being developed by the Gamaleya National Center of Epidemiology and Microbiology in Russia). They have announced that the vaccine has shown a net efficacy of 92% during the Phase III trials.

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Judging from the current spread of COVID-19, it has fallen from its peak period. However, to completely restrict it in the world, we still have to wait for the popularization and effectiveness of vaccines in various countries. The impact on the economy is obvious, and it objectively promoted the occurrence of this bull market.
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Coronavirus was spared rapidly than previously. Everything we can do now sits tight for the antibody which can be declared any time in 2021. This pandemic may unsafe for the human however not for bitcoins. On the off chance that the subsequent lockdown happens, it will influence the economy again which leads the bitcoin value all the higher. Because of the lockdown stock exchange went down and individuals sitting home check out bitcoins.  That's what happen back in March and now today we can see the bitcoin price which is higher than 2017's price.
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Coronavirus was spared rapidly than previously. Everything we can do now sits tight for the antibody which can be declared any time in 2021. This pandemic may unsafe for the human however not for bitcoins. On the off chance that the subsequent lockdown happens, it will influence the economy again which leads the bitcoin value all the higher. Because of the lockdown stock exchange went down and individuals sitting home check out bitcoins.  That's what happen back in March and now today we can see the bitcoin price which is higher than 2017's price.
I don't think that the second lockdown will happen after the vaccine is around. So far the vaccine has been distributed in many countries and is used by some people. This will increase human immunity against virus attack (corona). As long as this vaccination is working well, then I am sure there will be no lockdown after this.

The corona virus will still be a threat to the health and safety of human life, therefore, in my opinion, the public must still maintain their health and always adhere to health protocol to prevent further disasters. But in fact, currently patients who have contracted the virus can be handled well by medical personnel and the death rate has dropped dramatically.

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Covid 19 is a tragedy for mankind. Whenever it is possible to trigger re-infection and cross infection is complicated. new variants are revealed, though vaccines have been deployed. In fact, countries that are underdeveloped and in agriculture are the majority that have lower rates of infection. The next risk of covid 19 reactivation is unavoidable

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Covid 19 is a tragedy for mankind. Whenever it is possible to trigger re-infection and cross infection is complicated. new variants are revealed, though vaccines have been deployed. In fact, countries that are underdeveloped and in agriculture are the majority that have lower rates of infection. The next risk of covid 19 reactivation is unavoidable


This is going to be even worse than the second wave. We are in lockdown for 3.5 months now with no end it sight. Life changed so much in 2020 and it became very boring. I wish everything would go back to normal. It takes a crisis like corona to really understand how great our life was before. If the virus keeps on mutating like in UK or South Africa than we can just hope for the vaccine to cover all these variantions in the future.
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ITs surely dying down again now. We are well over the Christmas get togethers that probably cost us so much ground.

The vaccines are rolling out around the world in a strange kind of international pissing contest.

Like those trumps card games you used to get.

Percentage of over 80  year olds vaccinated ?       85% damn you win that one.
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ITs surely dying down again now. We are well over the Christmas get togethers that probably cost us so much ground.

The vaccines are rolling out around the world in a strange kind of international pissing contest.

Like those trumps card games you used to get.

Percentage of over 80  year olds vaccinated ?       85% damn you win that one.

According to Bloomberg, 119 million doses of the vaccine has been administered till now. I don't have the number of individuals who have been completely vaccinated (i.e two doses) for all the countries, but for USA the figure stands at 2.3% of the population and therefore I assume that a large part of the 80 plus population is covered. For the UK, the same figure stands at 0.8%. And for most of the EU nations, it is between 1% and 2% (except France, which is lagging behind in terms of inoculation).

Israel is at the top, and 21.6% is fully vaccinated. And if we look at the charts from there, the decrease in the prevalence of the virus is clearly visible. They used to have 50-100 deaths per day in January, and this has been reduced by half now.
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