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January 12, 2021, 02:25:56 AM
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I thought the conspiratards already moved on to another theory after the arrests started happening and everyone was obviously a Trump supporter.

^^^ No. Conspiratards still have the same theory. That Pro-Trump rioters breached the Capitol, forcing lockdown.

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January 12, 2021, 03:03:39 AM
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IGNORED BY MEDIA: Flash Bangs Were Going Off at US Capitol Before Trump Finished His Speech – Antifa Organized Protest Near US Capitol Before It Was Stormed -UPDATED
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/ignored-media-flash-bangs-going-off-us-capitol-trump-finished-speech-antifa-organized-protest-near-us-capitol-stormed/

Analysis of Ashli Babbit Video Suggests Coordinated Actions—Interview W. Masako Ganaha | Crossroads
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January 12, 2021, 04:29:35 AM
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IGNORED BY MEDIA: Flash Bangs Were Going Off at US Capitol Before Trump Finished His Speech – Antifa Organized Protest Near US Capitol Before It Was Stormed -UPDATED
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/ignored-media-flash-bangs-going-off-us-capitol-trump-finished-speech-antifa-organized-protest-near-us-capitol-stormed/

I have never seen credible evidence that Antifa is a singular, organized or prolific organization. I went to over 10+ large protests in 2020 and talked to over 100 people. Not a single person identified as being a part of Antifa. From what I have read the term Anitfa started in Germany as antifaschistisch ("anti-fascist"). The few small groups in the USA that use the term Antifa in their names aren't associated with each other. They act as a decentralized ideology. None of these groups are called just "Antifa". I also never spoke to anyone during the protests that supports Biden.

The article you linked to references John Sullivan, who has never identified himself as being part of Antifa (because it's not a real group). Also the article says he is a BLM organizer. Well guess what, he was kicked out of BLM for inciting violence in Utah, which makes him NOT A BLM ORGANIZER. He started his own group after getting kicked out of BLM and has no current association. He was kicked out because BLM does not tolerate violent rhetoric from their leaders (even though some of their protests turned violent which is out of their control).

Furthermore, there have been several instances of alt-right actors & 4chan users getting caught orchestrating false flag attacks and blaming "Antifa".
https://www.gq.com/story/fake-antifa-accounts
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41036631
https://www.vice.com/en/article/59dwed/a-fake-antifa-account-was-busted-for-tweeting-from-russia-vgtrn

And for the claims that Trump and team did not want violence, lets hear their own words:

  - Rudy Giuliani Called For "Trial By Combat" speaking to the crowd on the 6th
  - Donald Trump Jr. warned Republican legislators “We’re coming for you.” speaking to the crowd on the 6th
  - Donald Trump said "You will never take our country back with weakness." speaking to the crowd on the 6th
  - Lauren Boebert tweeted "Today is 1776." in the morning before the violence @ 8:30am

Anyone claiming that these were "jokes" is crazy. Someone making a joke about violence in front of an angry mob is either mentally challenged, or they are lying about it being a joke. Q followers think when their politicians say they were joking, it's really a secret message that they're not joking. It doesn't matter if some of these comments were made after the violence began; this type of rhetoric is sick and wrong.

I am no fan of Biden, but some of you Trump fans have misinformation pumped so far up your brain I'm surprised you can still makes thoughts.
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January 13, 2021, 01:28:29 AM
Last edit: January 13, 2021, 02:59:54 AM by Gyfts
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And for the claims that Trump and team did not want violence, lets hear their own words:

  - Rudy Giuliani Called For "Trial By Combat" speaking to the crowd on the 6th
  - Donald Trump Jr. warned Republican legislators “We’re coming for you.” speaking to the crowd on the 6th
  - Donald Trump said "You will never take our country back with weakness." speaking to the crowd on the 6th
  - Lauren Boebert tweeted "Today is 1776." in the morning before the violence @ 8:30am

Lauren Boebert is some right wing tard that couldn't spell constitution if she was asked to, so I don't take her or the others on your list too serious.

But, if we are going to cherry pick what Trump said in that speech, did you know he also said to protest peacefully?

Trump on January 6th during his speech:

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” If you chose to read in between the lines of any political text, I'm sure we can tie it to violence.

For example - AOC saying that protests are meant to make people "uncomfortable" after BLM riots caused US cities to burn. Didn't hear anyone complaining about that?

Imagine if Trump had tweeted:

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"The whole point of protesting is to make ppl uncomfortable.

Activists take that discomfort w/ the status quo & advocate for concrete policy changes. Popular support often starts small & grows.

To folks who complain protest demands make others uncomfortable... that’s the point."


*after* the capitol riots. Wonder what the reaction would be?
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January 13, 2021, 08:26:38 AM
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IGNORED BY MEDIA: Flash Bangs Were Going Off at US Capitol Before Trump Finished His Speech – Antifa Organized Protest Near US Capitol Before It Was Stormed -UPDATED
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/ignored-media-flash-bangs-going-off-us-capitol-trump-finished-speech-antifa-organized-protest-near-us-capitol-stormed/

Analysis of Ashli Babbit Video Suggests Coordinated Actions—Interview W. Masako Ganaha | Crossroads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nvqvvsqJ_s

I watched 2 videos from Ashli Babbit within the Capitol and just didn't get of what was going on. They were rioting in front of a locked and barricaded with armed security forces on the other side. When they tried to get into Mike Pence area there was only 1 shot and Ashli died. Very tragic.
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January 13, 2021, 09:16:46 AM
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IGNORED BY MEDIA: Flash Bangs Were Going Off at US Capitol Before Trump Finished His Speech – Antifa Organized Protest Near US Capitol Before It Was Stormed -UPDATED
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/ignored-media-flash-bangs-going-off-us-capitol-trump-finished-speech-antifa-organized-protest-near-us-capitol-stormed/

Analysis of Ashli Babbit Video Suggests Coordinated Actions—Interview W. Masako Ganaha | Crossroads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nvqvvsqJ_s

I watched 2 videos from Ashli Babbit within the Capitol and just didn't get of what was going on. They were rioting in front of a locked and barricaded with armed security forces on the other side. When they tried to get into Mike Pence area there was only 1 shot and Ashli died. Very tragic.

The guy next to Ashli
https://www.brighteon.com/22375a2f-1f93-44fe-8fb5-4a2d0b27298c

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January 13, 2021, 09:33:54 AM
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IGNORED BY MEDIA: Flash Bangs Were Going Off at US Capitol Before Trump Finished His Speech – Antifa Organized Protest Near US Capitol Before It Was Stormed -UPDATED
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/ignored-media-flash-bangs-going-off-us-capitol-trump-finished-speech-antifa-organized-protest-near-us-capitol-stormed/

Analysis of Ashli Babbit Video Suggests Coordinated Actions—Interview W. Masako Ganaha | Crossroads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nvqvvsqJ_s

I watched 2 videos from Ashli Babbit within the Capitol and just didn't get of what was going on. They were rioting in front of a locked and barricaded with armed security forces on the other side. When they tried to get into Mike Pence area there was only 1 shot and Ashli died. Very tragic.

The guy next to Ashli
https://www.brighteon.com/22375a2f-1f93-44fe-8fb5-4a2d0b27298c

Your conspiracy theories are contradicting each other:
Whoever shot Ashli is not police because they are on here side of the door as clearly seen (warning graphic)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1347094167411806211

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January 13, 2021, 09:39:25 AM
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IGNORED BY MEDIA: Flash Bangs Were Going Off at US Capitol Before Trump Finished His Speech – Antifa Organized Protest Near US Capitol Before It Was Stormed -UPDATED
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/ignored-media-flash-bangs-going-off-us-capitol-trump-finished-speech-antifa-organized-protest-near-us-capitol-stormed/

Analysis of Ashli Babbit Video Suggests Coordinated Actions—Interview W. Masako Ganaha | Crossroads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nvqvvsqJ_s

I watched 2 videos from Ashli Babbit within the Capitol and just didn't get of what was going on. They were rioting in front of a locked and barricaded with armed security forces on the other side. When they tried to get into Mike Pence area there was only 1 shot and Ashli died. Very tragic.

The guy next to Ashli
https://www.brighteon.com/22375a2f-1f93-44fe-8fb5-4a2d0b27298c

Your conspiracy theories are contradicting each other:
Whoever shot Ashli is not police because they are on here side of the door as clearly seen (warning graphic)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1347094167411806211

You are showing your worth when claiming actual footage's are some king of conspiracy theories. You have sincere fear of capitalism, eh?

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January 13, 2021, 01:02:06 PM
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You are showing your worth when claiming actual footage's are some king of conspiracy theories.

the brighteon link is not just raw footage. its a montage of collected and selectively chosen images and videos with a yellow font creating the theory.

the yellow font words are the theory.
how do you know its a theory. because the video creator sets a idea and asks other people to judge it.

that video is actually a good example of the conspiracy influencers. they themselves dont have the maturity to pledge their own character/reputation against their ascertions as fact. they just imply a theory and ask others to run with it. thus pushing the blame on those running with it as the out of character idiots that are pushing it as fact.

and you conspiracy idiots fall for it all the time 'its true cos someone told me/i read it somewhere'

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January 13, 2021, 01:17:00 PM
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IGNORED BY MEDIA: Flash Bangs Were Going Off at US Capitol Before Trump Finished His Speech – Antifa Organized Protest Near US Capitol Before It Was Stormed -UPDATED
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/ignored-media-flash-bangs-going-off-us-capitol-trump-finished-speech-antifa-organized-protest-near-us-capitol-stormed/

Analysis of Ashli Babbit Video Suggests Coordinated Actions—Interview W. Masako Ganaha | Crossroads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nvqvvsqJ_s

I watched 2 videos from Ashli Babbit within the Capitol and just didn't get of what was going on. They were rioting in front of a locked and barricaded with armed security forces on the other side. When they tried to get into Mike Pence area there was only 1 shot and Ashli died. Very tragic.

The guy next to Ashli
https://www.brighteon.com/22375a2f-1f93-44fe-8fb5-4a2d0b27298c

Your conspiracy theories are contradicting each other:
Whoever shot Ashli is not police because they are on here side of the door as clearly seen (warning graphic)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1347094167411806211

You are showing your worth when claiming actual footage's are some king of conspiracy theories. You have sincere fear of capitalism, eh?
This is the conspiracy theory you linked:



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lets nail some points about the brightein theory

at 1:06 the yellow font narrative says the guy with the gun cant have shot her because the gun was pointed down.. and the video plays in slow motion for 30 seconds(pre shooting) where the narrative is being imbedded into peoples minds. however at 1:36-1:38 it clearly shows the gun lifts up, points and shoots.

but weak minds dont care about 2 seconds of video proof. their minds have already imbedded 30 seconds of false narrative

even funnier is the narrator first said (pre 1:40) that the gun was aimed down and not at the woman and never aimed at her as always down

next/separate theory was that the gun was aimed at the women. then the gunman swang away

yet even just screenshotting the visuals at 1:37 and then drawing a line from the gun to its trajectory path shows the path the bullet would take would result in the location the woman was.

and it silly how a narrator can try pushing two different scenarios that are not what the video even shows
and you conspiracy idiots fall for it

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Lauren Boebert is some right wing tard that couldn't spell constitution if she was asked to, so I don't take her or the others on your list too serious.

I think people who call others "tard" in public discussion put their lack of maturity and intelligence on display for all to see. We see you. That being said she was elected to the house by her base, so there are people who take her seriously even if you don't.

But, if we are going to cherry pick what Trump said in that speech, did you know he also said to protest peacefully?

Trump on January 6th during his speech:

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” If you chose to read in between the lines of any political text, I'm sure we can tie it to violence.

When an angry mob gets conflicting messages, it doesn't calm them down. Him saying that doesn't cancel out the other things that I quoted. You don't have to be genius to understand that. It is well known that within the Q community they believe Trump does not say what he really means because his plot to overthrow the Liberals is secret.

For example - AOC saying that protests are meant to make people "uncomfortable" after BLM riots caused US cities to burn. Didn't hear anyone complaining about that?

Police brutality and reform is a topic that people should get behind. It is a problem that requires civil disobedience. The FBI has done one inquiry and one full blown investigation into white supremacists infiltrating the police stations of America. It is a real problem. Donald Trump claiming the election is rigged before it even took place is not a good reason for people to use protest as a form of civil disobedience. Maybe this is just a difference of opinion and you are entitled to pick sides, but any informed person can see AOC is on the correct side of history. If people were storming the capital because they dislike Biden, Trump and the electoral college in general, I may change my tune. These aren't patriots. They are ill-informed pawns who follow a man that openly lies and shits on the constitution. If a group supporting Biden did the same thing on the 6th, I would feel the same way. Trump and Biden both are habitual manipulators who shit on the constitution. I have never seen AOC support a protest based on the lies of either of those people.

I see that you did not address any of my other points on ANTIFA not being a real organization or BLM having no current affiliation with John Sullivan after kicking him out. So it seems you are the one who is cherry picking what gets talked about in your arguments. As you run out of defensible positions, you latch on to false comparisons. It is also my firm belief that people who say things like "tard" in public discourse are also the people using racial slurs in private with their friends.

You are entitled to believe that the unlawful re-election of Trump is something that requires civil disobedience and protest. But just know that I am not on your side and I will fight to keep people like you from gaining foothold in this country. I will fight to support justice for ALL Americans who are victims of the corporate banking system and the electoral college. But when that fight is corrupted by people like Trump or Biden supporters, I am against you.

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I think people who call others "tard" in public discussion put their lack of maturity and intelligence on display for all to see. We see you. That being said she was elected to the house by her base, so there are people who take her seriously even if you don't.

No but you don't understand, she is actually retarded. She might have the IQ of a piece of fruit. I don't own her, nor do real conservatives. I don't own her base either.

When an angry mob gets conflicting messages, it doesn't calm them down. Him saying that doesn't cancel out the other things that I quoted. You don't have to be genius to understand that. It is well known that within the Q community they believe Trump does not say what he really means because his plot to overthrow the Liberals is secret.

There is no conflicting message. There is the objective meaning of Trump's words, then your loose interpretation that is fueled by partisanship and hindsight bias. It's extremely easy to retroactively attribute malice with Trump's words if you already arrive at the conclusion that he is responsible for what happened at the capitol. He clearly said to protest peacefully, and you choose to ignore that.

Trump saying you cannot take back this country with weakness is not a call for violence. When politicians say that you need to "be strong" and "fight" for your rights, does that mean they're calling for their supporters to physically fight/assault dissenters? When Chris Cuomo says "show me where protests are supposed to be peaceful", is he indicating to his CNN viewers that they need to grab a 12 gauge and shove it down a Trump supporter's throat and pull trigger?

OR, does there tend to be a lot of irresponsible rhetoric in politics?

If you want to talk about what's more egregious, I would say Chris Cuomo and AOC's comments regarding "peaceful" protests after mass BLM riots is a bit more inflammatory.

Like I said before -- imagine if Trump said what AOC tweeted about BLM riots after the capitol fiasco. You think that would have been appropriate?

Police brutality and reform is a topic that people should get behind. It is a problem that requires civil disobedience.

"I can only murder, riot, and loot when I agree with the cause". Please. AOC was in the wrong and I vehemently disagree with the idea that the ends justify the means. Perhaps you think differently but for me, no, under no circumstances are riots, looting, ect. okay.

The FBI has done one inquiry and one full blown investigation into white supremacists infiltrating the police stations of America. It is a real problem.

This is overstated. I've heard this before and you are using this to paint all police as a systemically racist system. Study after study has shown no bias in police shootings with respect to whites and POC.

Donald Trump claiming the election is rigged before it even took place is not a good reason for people to use protest as a form of civil disobedience. Maybe this is just a difference of opinion and you are entitled to pick sides, but any informed person can see AOC is on the correct side of history. If people were storming the capital because they dislike Biden, Trump and the electoral college in general, I may change my tune. These aren't patriots. They are ill-informed pawns who follow a man that openly lies and shits on the constitution. If a group supporting Biden did the same thing on the 6th, I would feel the same way. Trump and Biden both are habitual manipulators who shit on the constitution. I have never seen AOC support a protest based on the lies of either of those people.

Yes. You are correct. Trump should not have said the election was rigged without evidence. AOC is precisely on the wrong side of history because no congresswoman should advocate for their agenda through violence, riots, and looting. It's inexcusable.

And I agree with you, Trump and Biden are habitual liars. I don't see Trump as a constitutionalist at all.

I see that you did not address any of my other points on ANTIFA not being a real organization or BLM having no current affiliation with John Sullivan after kicking him out.

Because I would probably agree. Idk, didn't read much into it because obviously there is no evidence that the capitol hill riot was antifa/BLM related.


So it seems you are the one who is cherry picking what gets talked about in your arguments. As you run out of defensible positions, you latch on to false comparisons.

Not quite. If you're going to refute a baseless conspiracy theory that I don't even believe in, are you saying that now I must adopt the position of this conspiracy theory for the hell of it? I picked the weakest point of your argument that I disagreed with and responded.

It is also my firm belief that people who say things like "tard" in public discourse are also the people using racial slurs in private with their friends.

Sorry  Roll Eyes But really this isn't that formal and no I don't use racial slurs. Retard isn't even that bad c'mon. I've heard "Trumptard" from the left a lot too so even they say it!

You are entitled to believe that the unlawful re-election of Trump is something that requires civil disobedience and protest. But just know that I am not on your side and I will fight to keep people like you from gaining foothold in this country. I will fight to support justice for ALL Americans who are victims of the corporate banking system and the electoral college. But when that fight is corrupted by people like Trump or Biden supporters, I am against you.

But I don't believe this. I dont think the capitol riots were appropriate. I am just not retroactively going back to Trump's speech and pretend as if he's responsible no more than I would blame Bernie Sanders when his rabid supporter shot the minority whip.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-closing-in-on-filling-impeachment-punch-card-for-free-sub-sandwich

Trump impeached for a second time as a result of the capitol riots! This also means he is very close to redeeming a free sandwich on his impeachment punch card!

What are the chances that the senate gets 67 votes for a conviction. Will they vote on a conviction after all the new senators are sworn in or does it not work that way?

In that case, could D's latch on 17 Republicans for impeachment? Doubt it.
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Raquel Rodriguez was arrested in San Antonio, police told KSAT 12.

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton's office announced in a press release that Rodriguez is being charged with "election fraud, illegal voting, unlawfully assisting people voting by mail, and unlawfully possessing an official ballot."

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How capitol security was breached (from about 1:30 )
https://www.c-span.org/video/?507745-1/protesters-breach-us-capitol-security

Anyone could see it coming from a country mile
https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/CN67oIug5zAh.mp4

So now barbed wire installed at the Capitol.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1349795409187663873

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This is overstated. I've heard this before and you are using this to paint all police as a systemically racist system. Study after study has shown no bias in police shootings with respect to whites and POC.

https://acleddata.com/special-projects/us-crisis-monitor

Protests in which demonstrators did not engage in any violence, vandalism, or looting, law enforcement officers were about 3.5x more likely to use force against leftwing protestors than rightwing protestors, with 1.8% of peaceful leftwing protests and only 0.5% of peaceful rightwing protests met with teargas, rubber bullets or other force from law enforcement. How "rightwing" vs "leftwing" is categorized as well as all the raw data is available in the above link. I never mentioned shootings, your mush brain injected that into the conversation.

At least two capitol police officers have been suspended, one for taking selfies and the other for putting on a MAGA hat and showing the rioters around the capitol building. Off duty officers from Washington, Pennsylvania, Texas, Virginia and New Hampshire are either under investigation or have been reprimanded for taking part in breaching of the capitol building. At least one DC officer claims that off duty cops and military personnel were flashing badges in an attempt to enter the building.

Rioters storming the capitol displayed racist symbolism including swastika flags and confederate battle flags. Also spotted were t-shirts that said "Camp Auschwitz STAFF" and "6MWE” (six million weren’t enough). The Confederate flag wasn't used as a political symbol until the mid-20th century. In 1948, the Dixiecrats wanted to keep racial segregation. The Confederate flag was very prominent in the Dixiecrat campaign during the 1948 presidential election. It was also used frequently by the white supremacist groups like the Ku Klux Klan. I am not saying everyone at the capitol was a racist, but racism is prominent within the ranks of Trump supporters.

One inquiry and one full blown investigation by the FBI have dealt with the systematic infiltration into US police forces by white supremacist groups. If it was an "overstated" problem they wouldn't have spent that much money, time and effort investigating the situation.

I never said all police are racist, or can't you read? I said it was a major problem.

"I can only murder, riot, and loot when I agree with the cause". Please. AOC was in the wrong and I vehemently disagree with the idea that the ends justify the means. Perhaps you think differently but for me, no, under no circumstances are riots, looting, ect. okay.

AOC never said riots and looting are okay. She said protests should make you uncomfortable. Or can't you read? It's the same argument you made to defend Trump because he never explicitly called for violence. His son and lawyer did call for violence, so within the context of his administration, his words take on new meaning to an angry crowd. He never condemned what they said. No one associated with AOC framed her comments incorrectly by calling for violence. I'm the one who said that civil disobedience is okay if you agree with the cause, not AOC. That is how America and the Constitution were formed. I simply just disagree that keeping a racist conman in office is a good reason for civil disobedience. If the people who stormed the capitol thought it was a good reason, than they took a gamble and lost. I stand against them.

No but you don't understand, she is actually retarded. She might have the IQ of a piece of fruit. I don't own her, nor do real conservatives. I don't own her base either.

You missed the point. Her base supports her and listens to her regardless of your definition of a "real conservative" and regardless of her supposed IQ. This isn't a conversation about your personal opinions on what she said. It's a conversation about the effects of what she said. Also can you provide her IQ tests? If not then you are just someone who uses language not realizing how xenophobic it makes you look. I don't care if other people use the word retarded. I don't care if others say "Trumptard". I don't say that and this conversation is between you and I. You have a habit of justifying your actions with the actions of others.  
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A Texas woman was arrested on voter fraud charges Wednesday after a video from Project Veritas appeared to show her convincing an older woman to change her vote.

Raquel Rodriguez was arrested in San Antonio, police told KSAT 12.

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton's office announced in a press release that Rodriguez is being charged with "election fraud, illegal voting, unlawfully assisting people voting by mail, and unlawfully possessing an official ballot."

So it begins.
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congratulations.. ONE.. yep one person.
give it time to find 10- 100-1000... but even that will still not change anything

find 7million then its news worthy...
heck find 18000....
.. but ill save you time there wont be enough finds to make a difference.  so time to move on.
trump has. so you should too

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https://acleddata.com/special-projects/us-crisis-monitor

Protests in which demonstrators did not engage in any violence, vandalism, or looting, law enforcement officers were about 3.5x more likely to use force against leftwing protestors than rightwing protestors, with 1.8% of peaceful leftwing protests and only 0.5% of peaceful rightwing protests met with teargas, rubber bullets or other force from law enforcement. How "rightwing" vs "leftwing" is categorized as well as all the raw data is available in the above link. I never mentioned shootings, your mush brain injected that into the conversation.

You're right -- you didn't mention law enforcement shootings. You just mentioned some irrelevant bullshit about white supremacy and police which is more of the leftist fan fiction you use to justify looting a target or burning an apartment building.

Acleddata is a leftwing propaganda group that can't even get basic facts right, see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308781.msg56149662#msg56149662

But please do answer me what methodology they use to quantify these protests, and what objective method they use to categorize something as violent. And by violence, how do they differentiate between the severity of violence? Where do they get that data from? Do police departments disclose the amount of resources used at riots to quantify the violence to Acledata? How do they objectively verify how many violent participators are at these events?

I'm sure you have answers to zero of these questions because you couldn't think that far enough. Just slapping a link down and hoping I wouldn't notice, hilarious.

At least two capitol police officers have been suspended, one for taking selfies and the other for putting on a MAGA hat and showing the rioters around the capitol building. Off duty officers from Washington, Pennsylvania, Texas, Virginia and New Hampshire are either under investigation or have been reprimanded for taking part in breaching of the capitol building. At least one DC officer claims that off duty cops and military personnel were flashing badges in an attempt to enter the building.

Officers were also suspended for taking pictures with BLM protestors. In videos of officers taking pictures with these people, it wasn't clear at that point that they were rioters. Officers that took place in the violence were arrested, but so far there isn't evidence that off duty officers participated in violence. 900k police officers in the US, yes, I'm sure one or two were at the riots. Doesn't mean they participated.

Rioters storming the capitol displayed racist symbolism including swastika flags and confederate battle flags. Also spotted were t-shirts that said "Camp Auschwitz STAFF" and "6MWE” (six million weren’t enough). The Confederate flag wasn't used as a political symbol until the mid-20th century. In 1948, the Dixiecrats wanted to keep racial segregation. The Confederate flag was very prominent in the Dixiecrat campaign during the 1948 presidential election. It was also used frequently by the white supremacist groups like the Ku Klux Klan. I am not saying everyone at the capitol was a racist, but racism is prominent within the ranks of Trump supporters.

And...? Who cares? 74 million Trump voters. You found a few racists, congrats. Would you like a medal? Plenty of felons, sex offenders, so on, at BLM protests, I'm sure if I wasted time I could give you a laundry list of them that were arrested during BLM riots.

One inquiry and one full blown investigation by the FBI have dealt with the systematic infiltration into US police forces by white supremacist groups. If it was an "overstated" problem they wouldn't have spent that much money, time and effort investigating the situation.

LMFAO imagine being this naïve. The federal government torches money on a routine basis. If your argument is that something is a problem because money is spent on the matter then I advise you to do a bit more research on the bullshit the US government spends money on.

AOC never said riots and looting are okay. She said protests should make you uncomfortable. Or can't you read? It's the same argument you made to defend Trump because he never explicitly called for violence. His son and lawyer did call for violence, so within the context of his administration, his words take on new meaning to an angry crowd. He never condemned what they said. No one associated with AOC framed her comments incorrectly by calling for violence. I'm the one who said that civil disobedience is okay if you agree with the cause, not AOC. That is how America and the Constitution were formed. I simply just disagree that keeping a racist conman in office is a good reason for civil disobedience. If the people who stormed the capitol thought it was a good reason, than they took a gamble and lost. I stand against them.


You're, right, she didn't explicitly say that. I was just using your brain dead logic against you and I'm glad you recognize it. But, you don't seem very bright to recognize the nuance so I'll explain it to you -- AOC tweeted this AFTR BLM riots set fire to buildings during the summer. AOC has never once condemned BLM violence, she justifies it and normalizes. Trump clearly denounced the violence and never once insinuated that protestors should be violent. He said clearly be peaceful.

You missed the point. Her base supports her and listens to her regardless of your definition of a "real conservative" and regardless of her supposed IQ. This isn't a conversation about your personal opinions on what she said. It's a conversation about the effects of what she said. Also can you provide her IQ tests? If not then you are just someone who uses language not realizing how xenophobic it makes you look. I don't care if other people use the word retarded. I don't care if others say "Trumptard". I don't say that and this conversation is between you and I.

And AOC's base listens to AOC while she normalizes them rioting in the streets or looting a target.


You have a habit of justifying your actions with the actions of others.  

No, not really. Trump has been living in your head rent free that has caused common sense and logic to be thrown out the window. Conservatives are on board with the fact that violence is not excusable. Unfortunately, leftist have a tough time with this whenever you mention BLM riots with democrats openly normalizing violence, looting, and riots.
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