Bitcointalk ranking difficulty

[Daniel91]

Honestly, on this forum I have seen some newbie members who have a lot more knowledge and experience about crypto than some legendary members.
I'm talking about some crypto business owners who share their knowledge and experience on the forum and have no interest in making money on the forum.
Obviously for such people the forum rank is completely irrelevant.
Only members who came here to earn some bitcoin complain about the forum rank and promotion on the forum.
They must understand that only through their own effort, time and learning can they progress in this forum and gain a certain reputation.

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[fahmimajannat]

I think merit system has been good for the forum.Because it stoopped newbies from spam posting. They just copy some text from somewhere and post that on the forum. So its become intolerable for the real users.
So I think merit system has been very beneficial for the forum.

[Taskford]

I think merit system has been good for the forum.Because it stoopped newbies from spam posting. They just copy some text from somewhere and post that on the forum. So its become intolerable for the real users.
So I think merit system has been very beneficial for the forum.

Its beneficial to the extent that it minimize the spamming in the forum but actually it make the life of the users hard to rank up if they really aim to became a legendary member rank here, but its not really necessary or needed to go on that standing since even if you are a newbie or whatever rank status are you on still you cannot feel the ranking status if you are skilled since most of the company owners doesn't care about your rank they want people who can finish the task accurately also we shouldn't mind the implementation of merit and just enjoy using this forum since the more you think about hunting some merits the more possibilities that we will get upset since merits are rarely given by users here.

[bitterguy28]

Newbies should be hard working, patient and believe, these are the three keys to how they can rank up. The ranking difficulty has increased but there are still newbies that rank up while their merit is now enough to achieve more ranks.

Because Forum is Not really for ranking but for what you can contribute and what you will Learn , For Me Ranking is just for the Campaign Purpose only or for bounties .

But if you are here to Listen and learn about what Is Cryptocurrency specially Bitcoin .

Though i don't want to be Hypocrite to say that I don't want to rank up but at least i'm not rushing everything . i wanted to rank when i really deserve it and not because i have another intention achieving it.

[ellaloveee]

Ranking up shouldn't really be top priority, but gaining knowledge about Bitcoin, other cryptocurrencies, trading and helping others should be. When I was  a newbie, I also thought that merits and ranking up were the most important things in the forum but with time I got to realize that knowledge is the best thing you can ever attain from this community.  Merits and ranking up are just a bonus.

I am striving as much as possible to be a better person tomorrow than I am today and there is no better place than this forum when it comes to Bitcoin and trading. Any knowledge I get here as a result of it being shared by other members improves my position 

This is exactly my point of view now when I came back in to this forum. I made account on 2017 but I don't know how things work here, I thought ranking up is most important because from what I heard from others they make money here and the higher the rank the bigger money they get. I do not remember the account I made, so I made a new one with a change of point of view. As a newbie, I'll strive also to gain more knowledge about Bitcoin and Trading because I want to invest on it. Also, I'll read more so that I can write interesting topic that will help others.

[qwertyup23]

This forum was created primarily to discuss about bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies (hence, bitcoinTALK) where other users can share their experiences, breakthroughs, and tips in general. Due to the increase in traffic in the forum over the years (both members and non-members of the forum), people took advantage of that traffic in order to advertise their respective businesses, thus the era of campaign signatures was born.

We shouldn't stray from the main purpose of this forum. If you view this forum primarily for profit, chances are you wouldn't rank-up and achieve that purpose especially if you contribute only spam messages.

[libert19]

I also don't see why it's so important to rank up, it's not like you're getting free BTC with every upgrade.

I am pretty sure you do, higher rank mean better payouts in bounties, which means pretty much same thing as getting BTC with every upgrade.

[Alucard1]

I also found difficulties achieving the full member, I encountered so many struggles to the point that I felt like giving up because of the comments that I have received from my previous topics but the good thing about it is that I have learned a lesson and I will keep it in my life to this forum. Just remember for every beginner that you are not required to create a topic just to earn merit, if you cant create quality topics then keep creating quality comments.

[Timelord2067]

Since the Merit system began I've amazed enough non-airdropped merits to have attained the rank of Hero Member along with the required posts to go with it.

If a user wants to rank-up it's usually with the intention of joining a Signature Campaign (there's little other reason to level up - not really).

Too many people want to start the working life in the executive suite instead of working their way up the corporate ladder.

Perseverance.

[lozovenkop]

I like the rank system, but between member and full member I think there should have been an intermediate rank

[Timelord2067]

I like the rank system, but between member and full member I think there should have been an intermediate rank

I'm struggling to envisage a scinario to justify an in-between rank such as the one you suggest?

AFAIK the entire forum is open to all from the moment you register onwards. It's not as though you need Senior member just to even *see* certain sections of the forum.

Get writing, be creative. Start a useful thread or two and earn merits.

Good Luck.

[Lordhermes]

accounts created from the 1st of January 2020 onwards, I make the number of ranked-up accounts to be as follows:

Ranked-up to Sr. Member:      8

I still imagine the number of crowd Bitcointailk has, but still yet, the total number of active users are limited, different data analysis shows billions of users this forum has however 80% of those users are bounty hunters, a newly launched bounty thread reaches 5 pages within a space of 5 minutes, it would be quite difficult for such account to rank up while they aren't for the discussion, they rather for the money.
@DdmrDdmr I would have love to compare the results of the total ranked up account from 1st January - December 2019.

[Maslate]

Let's make it simple, all you need to do is just to earn merits to rank up, question is how do you earn those merits, what are your approach?

You can try hard and harder, but it does not guarantee you'll earn merits as merits are just given by members and they could not see your hard work. So what I suggest is be true to yourself, just take it easy, don't think of ranking up more, instead, contribute on your own way and be more active.

[Lucius]

I like the rank system, but between member and full member I think there should have been an intermediate rank

Not necessarily a new rank, after all how to call it? - Half-Full Member maybe?

What might make more sense is to adjust the number of merits for Full Member rank, because if Jr.Member only needs 1, Member 10, then 100 merits for Full Member is quite a challenge for most. Although such a change would then affect other ranks in terms of the number of merits, it is still best to adapt to the existing system. While it may seem too difficult to some, 1 or 10 merits is more than easy to reach for most - but not by being just bounty hunters, it's definitely the wrong direction.

[TheNineClub]

People that are just joining bitcointalk have to work harder and have posts full of quality contents

Am I missing something? Shouldn't quality (or somewhat good) posting be a normal occurrence?  It's not like people here are telemarketers getting rich on posts I'm kidding, I understand how things work and I actually like the merit system. I actually learned something from posts here, I keep learning from posts, and if I can I help out with a post of mine, I do (altho not on the technical subforums, that's just outa of my league for now so I won't bullshit and waste time). The second this feel's like work I'm gone. My experience is that I got merits when someone thinks I contributed something to the discussion, but having a system to getting merits...yeah...I don't see that as reliable. Long story short, more power to the merit system! (Don't merit me on this post).

[blckhawk]

I think merit system has been good for the forum.Because it stoopped newbies from spam posting. They just copy some text from somewhere and post that on the forum. So its become intolerable for the real users.
So I think merit system has been very beneficial for the forum.

It is very beneficial in this forum because it kinda filters out or segregates the good poster member into spammers. I think without this merit system this forum would be a kind of mess where there will be a lot of spammers trying to ruin this platform. Honestly, I enter the forum when it does not have a merit system yet but I wouldn't say that it was worse because there are fewer members way back then and easier to manage compared to now though. So yeah merit system is healthy for this forum for it to be last longer.

[DdmrDdmr]

<...> @DdmrDdmr I would have love to compare the results of the total ranked up account from 1st January - December 2019.

What I’m showing here is not really the total ranked-up accounts during the year, but the total ranked-up during the year of those accounts created within the analysed year. There are many more that rank-up within the year, but since there was a large focus here on this thread on what Newbies managed to do in terms of ranking, the scope is delimited to studying the ranking performance for Newbies created within the analysed year.

Having contextualized the above, this is the comparison between 2019 and 2020:

Accounts created during 2020 -> Rank by 31/12/2020 (same as on prior post)
Ranked-up to Sr. Member:      8
Ranked-up to Full Member:   14
Ranked-up to  Member:      136
Ranked-up to  Jr. Member:  460

Accounts created during 2019 -> Rank by 31/12/2019 (*)
Ranked-up to Sr. Member:      4
Ranked-up to Full Member:   19
Ranked-up to  Member:      126
Ranked-up to  Jr. Member:  621

(*) As of 03/01/2020 really, since I store weekly snapshots and that is the closest one to the 31/12/2019.

The total historical number of ranked-up members, that did so needing earned merits, can be seen here:
https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/Ranked-up

The difference in the above link to the data provided on this post, is that there is no specific focus on Newbies, and that the data accounts for all ranks, regardless of when they were created, comparing their initial rank when the Merit System kicked-off, to their current rank.

[Poker Player]

I don't fully understand the purpose behind this post.

I do. He is hoping to get merit for the post, unsuccessfully as I you can see. Posts about merits tend to get merit and if you open the post you are more likely to get merit than if you express the same ideas but in a comment on page 5. But I think flattery is what has gotten him nowhere.

[Renampun]

*remember the wise word: 'don't feed spammers'...
many people may feel that the merit system is totally unfair but for me, it is very fair. Just imagine if there is no merit system then we will see hundreds of spammers who grow to become legendary every month. *don't stop to deepen your horizons so you can make quality posts

[Lordhermes]

<...> @DdmrDdmr I would have love to compare the results of the total ranked up account from 1st January - December 2019.

Accounts created during 2020 -> Rank by 31/12/2020 (same as on prior post)
Ranked-up to Sr. Member:      8
Ranked-up to Full Member:   14

Accounts created during 2019 -> Rank by 31/12/2019 (*)
Ranked-up to Sr. Member:      4
Ranked-up to Full Member:   19

Thank alot DdmrDdmr for the analysis you brought for clarification, I can fully understand that this analysis compares the total number of registered account that engaged more on the forum discussion, it's been known that a user ranks up by involving themselves among others in bringing to the development of the forum and at such their rank grows higher via merit by contributing positively.
In the above analysis, on a serious note, it's difficult for a user to rank up to snr. Memeber specifically, it's surprising that 4 & 8 newly registered accounts ranks up to Snr in a year where thousand of numbered users gets registered on the forum daily.