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January 12, 2021, 12:12:18 AM
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One very interesting thing:

After OP wrote in Adkins' thread that he opened a scam acquisition thread, bots flooded The Official Thread with silly posts. Coincidence?
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January 12, 2021, 12:14:46 AM
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One very interesting thing:

After OP wrote in Adkins' thread that he opened a scam acquisition thread, bots flooded The Official Thread with silly posts. Coincidence?

People judge way too quickly in this way that is of no use at all, a few facts have emerged but the only thing that is still going on is that adkinsbet has not yet processed the payout of the user so what is the problem to wait for their answer until it is resolved?

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January 12, 2021, 12:17:05 AM
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these are paid people who aim to trick people into depositing in such fraudulent sites. There are many articles that describe the scheme
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January 12, 2021, 12:22:30 AM
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One very interesting thing:

After OP wrote in Adkins' thread that he opened a scam acquisition thread, bots flooded The Official Thread with silly posts. Coincidence?

People judge way too quickly in this way that is of no use at all, a few facts have emerged but the only thing that is still going on is that adkinsbet has not yet processed the payout of the user so what is the problem to wait for their answer until it is resolved?


Ronaldo40, Life has taught me that everything that drags on doesn't go well in the end.
Adkins is stalling and constantly coming up with new reasons not to pay the OP ( and me2) until we give up. Either they don't have the money or they're just thieves and want to steal.
A few facts have emerged that are very serious and proven and that's not enough for you?
What's it going to take to realize that Adkins is one of the biggest scams in history?
How long does an OP have to wait, a year, and then declare it as fraud?
I'm so frustrated, I'm probably going to start writing about what happened to me right now.
They cheated on me in an even worse way. They changed the bet I played.
I played one game and after a few days they changed it to a whole other.
See you soon!
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January 12, 2021, 12:53:40 AM
Merited by LFC_Bitcoin (1), nelson4lov (1), avarnet (1), spyrosc200 (1)
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A gambling site needs the deposit to rollover that is common sense, but I have seen sites allowed me to withdraw without wagering. Adkinsbet responded your email saying that there are no wagering means they allowed you a special consideration possibly. And under this consideration you should be able to withdraw the funds without wagering. - Adkinsbet is wrong here. 
There replay " Hello,
We understand what you mean. But that information about the roll over requirements are related to the odds that you will use. You can even place a bet at odds from 1.10, you do not have to place bets with odds for 1.85 for example. When somebody makes a deposit, he can not withdraw the funds without wagering.
There is no logical explanation for this process, and that is why this will never be allowed at any bookmaker.
On the moment somebody makes a deposit, he has to place a bet with the amount."
The most important from me was : "Any roll over needed after deposit in order to make withdrawal?"
the replay was : "You are free to withdraw the money on your account, there are no roll over requirements."  https://imgur.com/a/G8gOD1p

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In the 14.12.20 I finally get an official message from site. they said " We have received official confirmation that the odds from the game Ahi Acre - Ihud Bnei Shefaram were not corrected on the moment the game started.
I am pretty sure you have followed the game and the odds, and there you could see that Ihud Bnei Shefaram was a big favourite. After 0:2 score after 10 minutes, the odds for the team Ihud Bnei Shefaram to score the next goal were just 1.25
We understand you are disappointed with our decision, but we have to take action if situations like this arrise.
After you place bets, you are free to withdraw funds of course."
Adkinsbet, it seems this is your common excuse. Have you guys read when I wrote about you last time?
Please read:
Don't do anything that can ruin your name overnight.
I know someone in the forum who actually in touch with me from a long time. We share things and we both have things that are common. We trust each others, so there are nothing between us to lie to each others. He is a gambler and a high roller to be honest. The Other day he told me something about you, at first it was hard to believe but later when he gave me evidences then I had no doubt. This is not an accusation by the way. I am just sharing what I heard about you from him. You are still working on his case, so I told him to wait. This could be an error too. And I honestly hope this is an error.

That user wrote me in telegram everything and shared the evidences.
First of all, I trust that guy, we have done a lot of business together. Big amounts, proper business.
He is a high roller and I know it very well. I have seen him to lose over $2k worth of stake and was still smiling.
He has no reason to lie to me because in our relationship we never felt to lie with each others. So, I trust his words.

However, since I am with Bitcoin and with this community and my ideology is to trust in proof, evidences - I asked him to show me everything and explain me everything.

You (I may mess up with order but here I try)
- 1st wanted to accuse him for multi accounting. Later you were convinced he did not have multi
- Then 2nd, you wanted to connect him with a gamblers group. Later you were convinced that he was not a part of the group
- Then 3rd, you came up with a very strange excuse that the guy he had bet on he lost the match, so his bet was lost. When my friend checked his slip then he discovered that you changed his leg! When he said that you changed the leg then you came up with this excuse that this was an error by the script (I have lost memory a bit here, you might say it was an error in selecting the winner too) because both player names are very similar. My friend told that 1xBet did the same thing with him long ago and there are script providers who allow result changing for the sportsbook. My friend was convinced that there were no such error, but it was done by your team. However since you clarified that it was an error you made the correction which means he won the bet.
- Then you came up with this excuse that his odd were not correct and now finally you were able to seize his winnings and all other bets that was placed after this bet and wins were seized too.

Does anyone see how they tried one after another attempt until they found something to seize the money. I told him to create a scam accusation, he said  he has other things to do before doing this.

Anyway, I brought this story because I see you have a very similar explanation that you gave to OP about incorrect odd and voiding the bet.

I am not bothered to read all these stories from OP, after reading about incorrect odd. I am already convinced that his story is real. If the case goes into further investigation then I may ask OP to provide deposit information, bet history, withdrawal requested etc screenshots. But Until then based on the merit of this case and the case which has not brought in the community yet, but I am well aware about it - I am leaving you a negative feedback so that anyone can read before joining you and put money in your site before rolling high.

Resolve these cases and all other cases with you and PM me. I may consider however this leg change of the bet slip to trick a punter that they lost their bet is something may not convince me to remove the tag, but I may make an exception after observing your activities for the next months.

Right now I consider - gambling in your site is highly risky.

PS: Cheers LFC_Bitcoin. @oz.kashi, if you case do not get resolved then feel free to create a flag against Adkinsbet.

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January 12, 2021, 01:04:56 AM
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Proof of Payment:
https://imgur.com/a/bf90MA8

Pls guys,
I saw that you helped people with them in past. Help me.  


First, can you sign a message from the address in question?

I post for interest - not signature spam.
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January 12, 2021, 08:21:19 AM
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Proof of Payment:
https://imgur.com/a/bf90MA8

Pls guys,
I saw that you helped people with them in past. Help me.  


First, can you sign a message from the address in question?

i didn't Understand what you mean my friend..
ple re-explain.


Vod asking you to sign message from your bitcoin address on that screenshot. Your wallet address starting with "17we...."
That's to prove if you are the real owner of that address
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January 12, 2021, 09:28:36 AM
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i didn't Understand what you mean my friend..
ple re-explain.
Read this thread: How to sign a message?!
If there is no way to distinguish between legitimate players and the 'fixed game' players, then perhaps you should re-examine your system: it shows there's a flaw on your side.

Every single time casinos use some form of circumstantial evidence without direct connections to link together accounts and groups, they risk false positives. Is it so hard to believe that? ToS apologists will argue the absolution of the contract which is simply a testament to their stupidity.

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January 12, 2021, 09:32:52 AM
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This sounds a lot like that sportsbet.io thing happened in the past. I am yet to absorb all the details of this incident but that's my first impression.

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January 12, 2021, 10:22:35 AM
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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.

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January 12, 2021, 11:08:27 AM
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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.

What is wrong with arbitrage betting?

Is that the players can actually make money instead of losing?  Grin

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January 12, 2021, 06:10:03 PM
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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.

What is wrong with arbitrage betting?

Is that the players can actually make money instead of losing?  Grin

The whole problem with arbitrage betting is that a user has 100% certainty of the winnings of a match. A bookmaker is there to gamble, not to steal or take free money.
People who do arbitrage betting know very well what the possible consequences are. every bookmaker suffers from that. Often resolved by keeping the limits very low on certain matches.
I don't think it is a crime to do arbitrage betting, but you have to keep in mind that bookmakers may take action and void your bets which is their right I think.
We saw the same thing last time on FortuneJack where a player tried to trick Fortunejack and FJ voided the bet. I can conclude that there is a big group of arb bettors on the forum, who pretend of course that they do not know what it is while it is their way of living and making money  Wink

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January 12, 2021, 06:49:42 PM
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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.

What is wrong with arbitrage betting?

Is that the players can actually make money instead of losing?  Grin

The whole problem with arbitrage betting is that a user has 100% certainty of the winnings of a match. A bookmaker is there to gamble, not to steal or take free money.
People who do arbitrage betting know very well what the possible consequences are. every bookmaker suffers from that.
Often resolved by keeping the limits very low on certain matches.
I don't think it is a crime to do arbitrage betting, but you have to keep in mind that bookmakers may take action and void your bets which is their right I think.
We saw the same thing last time on FortuneJack where a player tried to trick Fortunejack and FJ voided the bet. I can conclude that there is a big group of arb bettors on the forum, who pretend of course that they do not know what it is while it is their way of living and making money  Wink

This is completely bullshit imo.

Free money is free money and if there is money to be made, it will be made.

What I don't really get is, how do they identify the arbitrage bettors? Shouldn't you play on different casinos to make it work?

I go and bet on "team a" at casino x,
I also bet on "team b" at "casino y",
I bet on draw at "casino z"

...because they calculated their odds poorly aint my problem I will win no matter the outcome.

How do either of these casinos determine if one is arbitrage betting? How do they suffer from that? They suffer from it because...

I guess it is because the player wins and this time, either of these 3 casinos will LOSE for certain. That's how they suffer.  Cool

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January 12, 2021, 08:09:04 PM
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Royse777 is talking about the user on the forum: realscout
This user is a professional arbitrage bettor/fixed betting.

What is wrong with arbitrage betting?

Is that the players can actually make money instead of losing?  Grin

The whole problem with arbitrage betting is that a user has 100% certainty of the winnings of a match. A bookmaker is there to gamble, not to steal or take free money.
People who do arbitrage betting know very well what the possible consequences are. every bookmaker suffers from that.
Often resolved by keeping the limits very low on certain matches.
I don't think it is a crime to do arbitrage betting, but you have to keep in mind that bookmakers may take action and void your bets which is their right I think.
We saw the same thing last time on FortuneJack where a player tried to trick Fortunejack and FJ voided the bet. I can conclude that there is a big group of arb bettors on the forum, who pretend of course that they do not know what it is while it is their way of living and making money  Wink

This is completely bullshit imo.

Free money is free money and if there is money to be made, it will be made.

What I don't really get is, how do they identify the arbitrage bettors? Shouldn't you play on different casinos to make it work?

I go and bet on "team a" at casino x,
I also bet on "team b" at "casino y",
I bet on draw at "casino z"

...because they calculated their odds poorly aint my problem I will win no matter the outcome.

How do either of these casinos determine if one is arbitrage betting? How do they suffer from that? They suffer from it because...

I guess it is because the player wins and this time, either of these 3 casinos will LOSE for certain. That's how they suffer.  Cool

I don't think you understand much about gambling, mindtrust. Gambling / betting is not called that for nothing. Arbitrage betting is a big deal for all betting sites. You can't stop that, because there are always players who find gaps in the odds. every day there are thousands of matches. it is impossible for a bookmaker to always receive all the information on time. there are plenty of situations where the bookmaker cancels bets. Arbitrage betting people run the risk of being busted. It is actually a variant of fixed odds. Bookmakers do not calculate their odds poorly, do you really think they set their own odds? Of course not. They get them from a provider.

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January 12, 2021, 08:14:43 PM
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Arbitrations are played by people in all countries. The problem is that bookmakers limit each account if it is profitable. But soon there will be changes, there is already a discussion about the limitation and several court decisions have declared the limitation illegal.
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January 12, 2021, 08:47:11 PM
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tried over then 2 hours to do that. as i understand in blockchain.com its not possible to do that and I really not understand In those things.
Yeah, if it's a Blockchain Wallet you can't sign your generated addresses - it's only the ones that you directly import into their system.

Can you take a screenshot of when you sent Bitcoins to Adkinsbet? In particular, any of the addresses that begin with the character 3 in this screenshot:


This proves that you deposited to them. Showing the address that you received coins from only shows that you own an address to receive coins.

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January 12, 2021, 11:37:50 PM
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hi,

this is screen shot of deposite https://imgur.com/a/lx277nM

You really need to learn how to sing the message on the Bitcoin address. Probably you know, but it's very easy to edit some screenshots and adjust it to your needs. So, screenshots can't be valid evidence that is your Bitcoin address.
If its everything correct you use Blockchain.com as your wallet, so there is no problem to make a sign there.
Also, can you post transaction id here but not a picture, just copy/paste all characters.
You should need to know, it's very important for us to have real evidence of any possible scam.

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January 12, 2021, 11:39:32 PM
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hi,

this is screen shot of deposite -snip-
I would block out the "To" address field in the middle of your screenshot: your transactions can still be identified if they look for the recipients on the blockchain.

Remember that Bitcoin operates on a public ledger: having the date and output of an address practically gives away the transaction.
You really need to learn how to sing the message on the Bitcoin address. Probably you know, but it's very easy to edit some screenshots and adjust it to your needs. So, screenshots can't be valid evidence that is your Bitcoin address.
If its everything correct you use Blockchain.com as your wallet, so there is no problem to make a sign there.
Also, can you post transaction id here but not a picture, just copy/paste all characters.
You should need to know, it's very important for us to have real evidence of any possible scam.
You can't sign directly, according to the website:

Message signing is a way you can prove you control a particular address, and demonstrate you have ownership of the funds.

This feature is currently only available for your Imported Addresses

I think it might be possible to export the seed to a non-custodial wallet like Electrum as per this, though: Your Recovery Phrase

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January 13, 2021, 07:33:35 AM
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This guy deserves to get paid in every cent.

Why was bet in israel got voided btw?

Many users mentioned Fortunejack case whereas a bet was voided before game started.

Fortjunejack though never told the user that he bet on fixing(!) game. They simply had wrong odds. Nothing to do with the israeli game whereas odds were correct!

If israeli game was fixed, Adkinsbet must at least show us Betradar's message as a proof for their actions.
You can't simply claim that a game was fixed just because it ended 0-6!
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January 13, 2021, 08:48:43 AM
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I've been reading a bit on Google. The meaning of Fixed odds or Fixed game does not mean it was a bribe. It is also often said that odds were fixed, meaning that the odds simply don't add up in a match, so you can place a bet at a different time with a bookmaker other than a counter-bet with always a profit. A simple example is a tennis match of 1.50 for player A and 2.50 for player B. If that 2.50 turns out to be much too high for whatever reason, you can bet on it. If you know that the odds are getting lower for player B and higher for A, you can bet on player A afterwards to make it unnoticeable. Then you would have approximately virtual odds of 1.90 and 2.50, there you have calculators for what to bet so that you always have a profit. This is a much discussed topic and there is a large group of gamblers active who are only interested in this. I don't want to argue whether oz.kashi is. I look at it in its entirety.

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