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January 25, 2021, 10:35:21 PM
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If somehow Dasmarinas possesses a granite chin like Margarito or Canelo, then absorb the punch and throw something in return that can hurt Inoue and extend the fight in full 12 rounds.

How about the body, I think he also need a strong body otherwise he would feel like what Donaire felt during his fight with Inoue. This guy is now the most popular boxer in Japan, he has the power and the speed, so it's really a tough fight for Dasmarinas here but this tough fight comes with big reward if he wins this game, enough for him to get bigger fights afterwards.

If indeed Dasmarinas can really get out as a winner from this fight, a lot of good things will happen to him.
Inoue is considered to be a superstar right now. So he is fighting a very popular boxer in their generation.
Really interesting if Dasmarinas can really challenge Inoue inside the ring.
I am guessing a lot will bet on Dasmarinas as the odds on Inoue is really not profitable.


It's not profitable if bet on the moneyline but with handicap, probably that's what people are looking into.
Inoue is a knockout artist, probably the best odds are Inoue's KO win in round 1 to round 6, we just have to choose which round we think he would KO Dasmarinas.

There's no fix schedule on when the fight will happen, so no betting odds yet.

However, there are betting odds in the past which we can use as a basis. Let's use the betting odds of Inoue vs Donaire fight.

https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/inoue-donaire-betting-odds-and-prediction

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Naoya Inoue   -600
Nonito Donaire   +425

Look at that, Donaire is a great fighter and yet he is +425 underdog, therefore Dasmarinas is more than an underdog than was Donaire, probably the odds is higher, so people are right saying that the odds for Dasmarinas is very attractive.

Since this is a mandatory fight of Inoue, this will certainly happen, and according to what I read, it will happen in the first half of the year.

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January 25, 2021, 10:37:41 PM
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If indeed Dasmarinas can really get out as a winner from this fight, a lot of good things will happen to him.

Dasmarinas will instantly climb the rankings, even passing those behind Inoue if he will pull this one.

More offers to challenge for a big fight and it means big payout.

I am guessing a lot will bet on Dasmarinas as the odds on Inoue is really not profitable.

I'm not seeing that way actually. Depends on the odds for Dasmarinas, maybe I might put some but it's all because he's from PH and we are not hiding the fact that Inoue maybe has an 80% chance to win this fight. I think gamblers will bet more on KO/Decision, Ended Rounds, Winner per Rounds, which are all favored to Inoue, etc. or other betting options excluding Moneyline.

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January 25, 2021, 11:20:23 PM
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I'm not seeing that way actually. Depends on the odds for Dasmarinas, maybe I might put some but it's all because he's from PH and we are not hiding the fact that Inoue maybe has an 80% chance to win this fight. I think gamblers will bet more on KO/Decision, Ended Rounds, Winner per Rounds, which are all favored to Inoue, etc. or other betting options excluding Moneyline.

On the other hand, if Dasmarinas will pull a surprise, we can also bet on him to KO Inoue in 1-3 rounds, I wonder what will be the odds for that. Surprises is always possible in boxing especially if Inoue will be aggressive and will be hit by a good counter punch from Dasmarinas, and knowing Dasmarinas  also has a high KO percentage rate, that makes it possible.

Moneyline is not a good option in this fight, unless you are betting on Dasmarinas to win, but why not aim for KO as if this goes to end of 12 rounds, I think the advantage will be on Inoue in judges scorecard.

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January 26, 2021, 12:23:19 AM
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I'm not seeing that way actually. Depends on the odds for Dasmarinas, maybe I might put some but it's all because he's from PH and we are not hiding the fact that Inoue maybe has an 80% chance to win this fight. I think gamblers will bet more on KO/Decision, Ended Rounds, Winner per Rounds, which are all favored to Inoue, etc. or other betting options excluding Moneyline.

On the other hand, if Dasmarinas will pull a surprise, we can also bet on him to KO Inoue in 1-3 rounds, I wonder what will be the odds for that. Surprises is always possible in boxing especially if Inoue will be aggressive and will be hit by a good counter punch from Dasmarinas, and knowing Dasmarinas  also has a high KO percentage rate, that makes it possible.

Whatever the odds for Dasmarinas will be very attractive, KO or UD win, possible that it will be in the 2 digits odds.

Moneyline is not a good option in this fight, unless you are betting on Dasmarinas to win, but why not aim for KO as if this goes to end of 12 rounds, I think the advantage will be on Inoue in judges scorecard.

If Inoue will win here it will be on a knock out or referee just stop the fight because it's a total mismatch. But as I have said, Filipino pride is on the line here, so yes everything is possible, for those who are not familiar with Rolando Pascua vs Humberto Gonzalez, then unbeaten WBC lightflyweight champion. And particularly this could be the greatest upset of a Filipino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK1SldagERM

Look out for the fighting spirit of Rolando Pascua.

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Looking through Dasmarinas record there isn't any recognizable names. It's been almost two years since he fought someone with a winning record. That fight was an IBF eliminator against an opponent he should have beat easily but the scorecards suggest that it was a close fight.

I do not see a way in which a top pound for pound fighter like Inoue is going to be upset against this type of opponent. With covid restrictions starting to ease up in some places there is still hope that we will see an Inoue-Casimero unification by the end of the year.

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January 26, 2021, 02:15:36 AM
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Looking through Dasmarinas record there isn't any recognizable names. It's been almost two years since he fought someone with a winning record. That fight was an IBF eliminator against an opponent he should have beat easily but the scorecards suggest that it was a close fight.

I do not see a way in which a top pound for pound fighter like Inoue is going to be upset against this type of opponent. With covid restrictions starting to ease up in some places there is still hope that we will see an Inoue-Casimero unification by the end of the year.
Hopefully, Dasmariñas will put up a fight against Inoue, as a Filipino I support Filipino boxers but in a practical standpoint we have to consider that Inoue is a champion and an undefeated one at that. If I were to go on a bet with some locals in my country in this fight, I will definitely be siding with Inoue. We have to also consider that most Filipino boxers are aggressive when it comes to being in the ring which could be a blessing and a curse depending on how the fighter will try to take advantage of it.

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January 26, 2021, 07:11:44 AM
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Looking through Dasmarinas record there isn't any recognizable names. It's been almost two years since he fought someone with a winning record. That fight was an IBF eliminator against an opponent he should have beat easily but the scorecards suggest that it was a close fight.

I do not see a way in which a top pound for pound fighter like Inoue is going to be upset against this type of opponent. With covid restrictions starting to ease up in some places there is still hope that we will see an Inoue-Casimero unification by the end of the year.
Hopefully, Dasmariñas will put up a fight against Inoue, as a Filipino I support Filipino boxers but in a practical standpoint we have to consider that Inoue is a champion and an undefeated one at that. If I were to go on a bet with some locals in my country in this fight, I will definitely be siding with Inoue. We have to also consider that most Filipino boxers are aggressive when it comes to being in the ring which could be a blessing and a curse depending on how the fighter will try to take advantage of it.
In this case, he doesn't need to be aggressive in the beginning otherwise he will eat left hook from Inoue. He should used his judge first and try to gauge the distance. Specially he loves to throw body shots, so a slow and steady attack. Definitely, the odds for Dasmariñas will be very attractive, and that is what we are looking for here. Waiting for the date and what odds the punters will give us for Dasmariñas.

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January 26, 2021, 10:24:57 AM
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Looking through Dasmarinas record there isn't any recognizable names. It's been almost two years since he fought someone with a winning record. That fight was an IBF eliminator against an opponent he should have beat easily but the scorecards suggest that it was a close fight.

I do not see a way in which a top pound for pound fighter like Inoue is going to be upset against this type of opponent. With covid restrictions starting to ease up in some places there is still hope that we will see an Inoue-Casimero unification by the end of the year.

TBH, i also not recognized this boxer until his name floated to be the mandatory challenger of Inoue.

Though he is fighting nobodies and given this once in a lifetime opportunity, Dasmarinas will definitely give his all as if there is no tomorrow.

The probability of Dasmarinas winning this fight is very very slim and betting odds would insanely favor Inoue but we have to remember that Dasmarinas is a Filipino and in this scenario where there is nothing to lose for the Filipino pug, they might surprise every one.

Inoue-Casimero will happen for sure if Michael won't ruin the party.
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January 26, 2021, 11:39:04 AM
Last edit: January 26, 2021, 11:52:32 AM by YuginKadoya
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I could say Naoya Inoue will be the favorite here and Michael Dasmarinas a nobody, an underdog, I am a Filipino but I have recently known Michael Dasmarinas if he doesn't pop up a challenger for Inoue I would not know him that is why it is obvious that Inoue would favor the odds for popularity, an undefeated fighter, and an underrated boxer would be fighting.

But Dasmarinas had gone a long way in coming in this fight and the most notable fighter that he devastated was Karim Guerfi from France and a draw fight against Manyo Plange from Ghana a two boxer that Dasmarinas had fought with and pretty much he fought amazingly I guess Michael Dasmarinas can have a chance against Inoue, but it is too early to decide yet.
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Looking through Dasmarinas record there isn't any recognizable names. It's been almost two years since he fought someone with a winning record. That fight was an IBF eliminator against an opponent he should have beat easily but the scorecards suggest that it was a close fight.

I do not see a way in which a top pound for pound fighter like Inoue is going to be upset against this type of opponent. With covid restrictions starting to ease up in some places there is still hope that we will see an Inoue-Casimero unification by the end of the year.

TBH, i also not recognized this boxer until his name floated to be the mandatory challenger of Inoue.

Though he is fighting nobodies and given this once in a lifetime opportunity, Dasmarinas will definitely give his all as if there is no tomorrow.

The probability of Dasmarinas winning this fight is very very slim and betting odds would insanely favor Inoue but we have to remember that Dasmarinas is a Filipino and in this scenario where there is nothing to lose for the Filipino pug, they might surprise every one.

Inoue-Casimero will happen for sure if Michael won't ruin the party.

This  man might be a nobody but basing off on overall fights that this man had  done pretty well.He might not just able to face up those popular fighters which really make out some noise or shall we say
that boost up popularity.

If he do able to beat up Inoue then that would really be a big leap into his boxing career.I wont say that this will mess up Inoue-Casimero fight if Dasmarinas will able to
snatch a win then next possible thing to happen is unknown.

Making conclusions when the fight isn't done yet but this is only for those underdogs that does really have the chance.

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January 26, 2021, 01:07:23 PM
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Looking through Dasmarinas record there isn't any recognizable names. It's been almost two years since he fought someone with a winning record. That fight was an IBF eliminator against an opponent he should have beat easily but the scorecards suggest that it was a close fight.

I do not see a way in which a top pound for pound fighter like Inoue is going to be upset against this type of opponent. With covid restrictions starting to ease up in some places there is still hope that we will see an Inoue-Casimero unification by the end of the year.

TBH, i also not recognized this boxer until his name floated to be the mandatory challenger of Inoue.

Though he is fighting nobodies and given this once in a lifetime opportunity, Dasmarinas will definitely give his all as if there is no tomorrow.

The probability of Dasmarinas winning this fight is very very slim and betting odds would insanely favor Inoue but we have to remember that Dasmarinas is a Filipino and in this scenario where there is nothing to lose for the Filipino pug, they might surprise every one.

Inoue-Casimero will happen for sure if Michael won't ruin the party.

This  man might be a nobody but basing off on overall fights that this man had  done pretty well.He might not just able to face up those popular fighters which really make out some noise or shall we say
that boost up popularity.

If he do able to beat up Inoue then that would really be a big leap into his boxing career.I wont say that this will mess up Inoue-Casimero fight if Dasmarinas will able to
snatch a win then next possible thing to happen is unknown.

Making conclusions when the fight isn't done yet but this is only for those underdogs that does really have the chance.

If Inoue will loss here then he does not deserve to be in the top rank of pound for pound fighter.

There's no hype of this fight since Dasmarinas is not a champion, unlike Casimero vs Inoue as both are holding a belt.
But since  Dasmarinas is a mandatory challenger and this fight has to happen, let's just hope it will be a good fight but I believe Inoue will win here.
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January 26, 2021, 07:59:31 PM
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If Inoue will loss here then he does not deserve to be in the top rank of pound for pound fighter.

There's no hype of this fight since Dasmarinas is not a champion, unlike Casimero vs Inoue as both are holding a belt.
But since  Dasmarinas is a mandatory challenger and this fight has to happen, let's just hope it will be a good fight but I believe Inoue will win here.
Having 1 loss doesnt really indicate that he shouldnt really deserve on the top rank.He wont able to reach out that spot for nothing and basing off stats then having a single loss wont really ruin out his entire career.
So its a little bit exaggerated if you do say that he's not really worth on the rankings.Anything can happen but the fact that his opponent isnt really that popular but since its a mandatory fight then
both boxers wont really be have any choice but to deal with it.It might not really be hyped compared to casimero but once this one is concluded and the opponent will win then it will
surely create another hype and thats for sure.

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January 26, 2021, 10:15:06 PM
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Looking through Dasmarinas record there isn't any recognizable names. It's been almost two years since he fought someone with a winning record. That fight was an IBF eliminator against an opponent he should have beat easily but the scorecards suggest that it was a close fight.

I do not see a way in which a top pound for pound fighter like Inoue is going to be upset against this type of opponent. With covid restrictions starting to ease up in some places there is still hope that we will see an Inoue-Casimero unification by the end of the year.

TBH, i also not recognized this boxer until his name floated to be the mandatory challenger of Inoue.

Though he is fighting nobodies and given this once in a lifetime opportunity, Dasmarinas will definitely give his all as if there is no tomorrow.

The probability of Dasmarinas winning this fight is very very slim and betting odds would insanely favor Inoue but we have to remember that Dasmarinas is a Filipino and in this scenario where there is nothing to lose for the Filipino pug, they might surprise every one.

Inoue-Casimero will happen for sure if Michael won't ruin the party.

This  man might be a nobody but basing off on overall fights that this man had  done pretty well.He might not just able to face up those popular fighters which really make out some noise or shall we say
that boost up popularity.

If he do able to beat up Inoue then that would really be a big leap into his boxing career.I wont say that this will mess up Inoue-Casimero fight if Dasmarinas will able to
snatch a win then next possible thing to happen is unknown.

Making conclusions when the fight isn't done yet but this is only for those underdogs that does really have the chance.

If Inoue will loss here then he does not deserve to be in the top rank of pound for pound fighter.

There's no hype of this fight since Dasmarinas is not a champion, unlike Casimero vs Inoue as both are holding a belt.
But since  Dasmarinas is a mandatory challenger and this fight has to happen, let's just hope it will be a good fight but I believe Inoue will win here.

He may slip in the rankings though if he losses, but he still be in the top 5 in my opinion pound for pound. Also a boxers can redeem himself in the next fight and start another winning streak so that his name can still be in the discussion for pound for pound.

Similar to Canelo, the number 1 in my opinion, but if he losses to a relatively unknown Avni Yildirim, for sure his will go down in the list but still can bounce back and take back the top spot in the next coming fights. With that said, we can't discount the chance of Dasmarinas derailing Inoue's plan of a Casimero match, hehehe.

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January 26, 2021, 10:19:14 PM
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Looking through Dasmarinas record there isn't any recognizable names. It's been almost two years since he fought someone with a winning record. That fight was an IBF eliminator against an opponent he should have beat easily but the scorecards suggest that it was a close fight.

I do not see a way in which a top pound for pound fighter like Inoue is going to be upset against this type of opponent. With covid restrictions starting to ease up in some places there is still hope that we will see an Inoue-Casimero unification by the end of the year.

TBH, i also not recognized this boxer until his name floated to be the mandatory challenger of Inoue.

Though he is fighting nobodies and given this once in a lifetime opportunity, Dasmarinas will definitely give his all as if there is no tomorrow.

The probability of Dasmarinas winning this fight is very very slim and betting odds would insanely favor Inoue but we have to remember that Dasmarinas is a Filipino and in this scenario where there is nothing to lose for the Filipino pug, they might surprise every one.

Inoue-Casimero will happen for sure if Michael won't ruin the party.

This  man might be a nobody but basing off on overall fights that this man had  done pretty well.He might not just able to face up those popular fighters which really make out some noise or shall we say
that boost up popularity.

If he do able to beat up Inoue then that would really be a big leap into his boxing career.I wont say that this will mess up Inoue-Casimero fight if Dasmarinas will able to
snatch a win then next possible thing to happen is unknown.

Making conclusions when the fight isn't done yet but this is only for those underdogs that does really have the chance.

If Inoue will loss here then he does not deserve to be in the top rank of pound for pound fighter.

There's no hype of this fight since Dasmarinas is not a champion, unlike Casimero vs Inoue as both are holding a belt.
But since  Dasmarinas is a mandatory challenger and this fight has to happen, let's just hope it will be a good fight but I believe Inoue will win here.
I would like to say that titles won't guarantee a win for a boxer. The idea that a belt is being passed from one person to another simply explains that a challenger could win from the title holder. Not to be biased, but both fighters has the chance to win. Dasmarinas won't surely enter the ring without having something to be pulled out once the fight starts. Inoue have proven himself indeed, for years but let us not erase the fact that there are many undefeated fighters, not only in boxing, who experienced the sweet taste of defeat, we just never know what could happen in the ring.

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January 27, 2021, 08:48:17 AM
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If somehow Dasmarinas possesses a granite chin like Margarito or Canelo, then absorb the punch and throw something in return that can hurt Inoue and extend the fight in full 12 rounds.

How about the body, I think he also need a strong body otherwise he would feel like what Donaire felt during his fight with Inoue. This guy is now the most popular boxer in Japan, he has the power and the speed, so it's really a tough fight for Dasmarinas here but this tough fight comes with big reward if he wins this game, enough for him to get bigger fights afterwards.

I think he has enough strength on his body, but for sure it will be tested by Inoue. And Inoue needs to get closer to have his body shot and for sure Dasmarinas will return with his own. So the chin will be the most vulnerable part as Inoue is very sharp and targets the head more frequently than that body.

And I agree the incentive of training hard and giving it all to win this fight against the best version of Inoue will come with a big reward for Michael and upsetting Inoue will be a dream come true for him, similar to Pacquiao's cinderella story.

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January 27, 2021, 10:43:06 PM
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If somehow Dasmarinas possesses a granite chin like Margarito or Canelo, then absorb the punch and throw something in return that can hurt Inoue and extend the fight in full 12 rounds.

How about the body, I think he also need a strong body otherwise he would feel like what Donaire felt during his fight with Inoue. This guy is now the most popular boxer in Japan, he has the power and the speed, so it's really a tough fight for Dasmarinas here but this tough fight comes with big reward if he wins this game, enough for him to get bigger fights afterwards.

I think he has enough strength on his body, but for sure it will be tested by Inoue. And Inoue needs to get closer to have his body shot and for sure Dasmarinas will return with his own. So the chin will be the most vulnerable part as Inoue is very sharp and targets the head more frequently than that body.

And I agree the incentive of training hard and giving it all to win this fight against the best version of Inoue will come with a big reward for Michael and upsetting Inoue will be a dream come true for him, similar to Pacquiao's cinderella story.

It's going to be the best win of his career if he can beat Inoue, on the other hand, I would not compare Dasmarinas to Pacquiao since Pacquiao is just so special, he is really destined to become one of the best in boxing if not the "GOAT".

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January 27, 2021, 11:18:19 PM
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If Inoue will loss here then he does not deserve to be in the top rank of pound for pound fighter.

Inoue's reputation won't be destroyed in case of loss. 17 KO in his 20 fights is a highly recognized stats. He will still remain on the top rankings after that.

He worked his way up beating some of the titleholders. Lots of attempts to take his title but successfully defend the edit. Even I'm eyeing for Dasmarinas here to win, as supporting him obviously and we are always biased for a PH boxer, I can't really see a way how he will deal with Inoue here.

Dasmarinas already knows how fierce Inoue is. He knows how deadly and recognized his next opponent is. Surely, tactics and strategy are now taking place for a long-time now.

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January 27, 2021, 11:51:29 PM
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If Inoue will loss here then he does not deserve to be in the top rank of pound for pound fighter.

Inoue's reputation won't be destroyed in case of loss. 17 KO in his 20 fights is a highly recognized stats. He will still remain on the top rankings after that.

He worked his way up beating some of the titleholders. Lots of attempts to take his title but successfully defend the edit. Even I'm eyeing for Dasmarinas here to win, as supporting him obviously and we are always biased for a PH boxer, I can't really see a way how he will deal with Inoue here.

Dasmarinas already knows how fierce Inoue is. He knows how deadly and recognized his next opponent is. Surely, tactics and strategy are now taking place for a long-time now.
When it comes to betting habits or recognition then i do always root for PH boxers from time to time due to probability of some upset.Inoue might be fierce but that dude wont just step in into the ring without giving a fight.

Having 1 loss wont really hurt Inoue thought but on having that pride to be an undefeated boxer should really be kept and try your best on not to be broken or someone do able to steal some win on you.

Inoue wont really be allowing for that thing to happen but well when these both fighters step into the ring then only one will really be taking up that victory. Inoue might able to defend his title or Dasmarinas
would really be having some upset.

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January 28, 2021, 12:18:02 AM
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If somehow Dasmarinas possesses a granite chin like Margarito or Canelo, then absorb the punch and throw something in return that can hurt Inoue and extend the fight in full 12 rounds.

How about the body, I think he also need a strong body otherwise he would feel like what Donaire felt during his fight with Inoue. This guy is now the most popular boxer in Japan, he has the power and the speed, so it's really a tough fight for Dasmarinas here but this tough fight comes with big reward if he wins this game, enough for him to get bigger fights afterwards.

I think he has enough strength on his body, but for sure it will be tested by Inoue. And Inoue needs to get closer to have his body shot and for sure Dasmarinas will return with his own. So the chin will be the most vulnerable part as Inoue is very sharp and targets the head more frequently than that body.

And I agree the incentive of training hard and giving it all to win this fight against the best version of Inoue will come with a big reward for Michael and upsetting Inoue will be a dream come true for him, similar to Pacquiao's cinderella story.

That is, if he upset Inoue, then we can probably put his name along side Pacquiao. But Manny is very different though, he has the ex-factor to become great and legendary and it is written already sort of his destiny. Many Filipinos try to emulate him, but failed, they have all the training and talent, but I guess there will be only one Manny Pacquaio, and probably the next Filipino superstars might take years to come. Flash Elorde in the 60's and then Manny Pacquiao late 90's up to this time.

But we do hope that Dasmarinas might pull an upset, we love to see underdogs pulling some 'miracle' and of course we can win big here.

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January 28, 2021, 12:25:04 AM
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When it comes to betting habits or recognition then i do always root for PH boxers from time to time due to probability of some upset.

I agree with this but not most of the time but it depends on the boxers involved.

I treat Dasmarinas' last fights as easy and this time, it will be different. If no mandatory defense for Inoue, I think there's no Dasmarinas name on the list. Not degrading Dasmarinas but I think he also not have a choice here but to leap quickly on a much tougher opponent as no need to fight other boxers and he can go straight to Number 1. Even against Casimero, which is much more of a strong boxer compare to Dasmarinas, the chance for Inoue to win is high.
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