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[asshkkat]

Wow, threatening a player on here is very brave.

It sounds like he hasn't broken your terms and conditions but you don't like the way he/she played. It is ridiculous to claim it is "illegal" when it was your responsibility too make it clear what is allowed with the bonus. Maybe posting on here is not the right thing for the player to do, but it should not be an issue to resolve problem in public if this is what they want.

If this player really found a bug the honest thing to do would be to pay the withdrawal and fix the issue.

It is not a bug, he broke the terms and conditions which i stated at the top of my posts and it is written black and white in our T&C.

In order to withdrawal the bonus, you need to wager X45 - if you dont wager x45 on your deposit amount, you can not withdraw your funds.
The slot had a progressive bonus, he lost his money + bonus, and didn't close the window in order to withdraw the funds.

Like i stated before, it is  a pocket money for us and we are willing to return the money, fact is, user did not send me a single wallet to get his funds.

Well that is not true.

You already know my withdrawal address because you don't allow players to deposit before they provide one. I had already requested the withdrawal before you blocked my account - and by the way the withdrawal process is broken because the btc addresses don't show up correctly.

I understand you are annoyed that i played the bonus with a strategy, but that is not abuse, illegal or even against your terms. Everyone plays with some kind of strategy in mind and i did not even make a profit. You will just say anyone who wins is a bonus abuser unless they bet like lemmings.

I guess you are showing your honesty by threatening offering to distribute €112.35 of the €759.89 I deposited to the community 

[agentF]

You played ONLY 3 slots that has a progressive bonus from the same provider, i can attach your gaming history so once again you are lying, you reached the bonus and you DID NOT PLAY the bonus, instead you moved to other slot to reach the next bonus stage.

You played 3 slots from the same provider that has a progressive bonus, you finished your money and your bonus money = meaning you are not eligible to withdraw the funds, remember? i wrote you need to wager X45, after you lost your money, it means NO BONUS.

You deposited  a small amount of money and returned playing the bonus, which is illegal by any means it called BONUS ABUSE.

Once, again, im telling you, you can contact the support to get your latest deposit.

[agentF]

That is a beautifully designed site you made there. Some users were complaining that it is slow, but I didn't experience any slowness on my laptop. Maybe it's just a problem on certain low-quality phones.

You offer a 200% deposit bonus for Bitcointalk members and a 150% bonus to all other players, did I understand that correctly?
But how are you going to know that a member came or is from Bitcointalk? During the registration process, we only need to submit an email, enter our password, and select the currency.

Hey !

Simply contact the support and tell them you're from bitcointalk, and you'll receive your bonus directly to your account!

[LUCKMCFLY]

Welcome to the forum,

I have reviewed their platform and it is excellent, they have many facilities for deposits, I like that they do not require KYC, have you considered removing the KYC requirement for possible whales? It would be great if they could start with a signature campaign and different contests, just like well-known casinos like Stake.com, duelbits, roobet ...

[asshkkat]

You played ONLY 3 slots that has a progressive bonus from the same provider, i can attach your gaming history so once again you are lying, you reached the bonus and you DID NOT PLAY the bonus, instead you moved to other slot to reach the next bonus stage.

You played 3 slots from the same provider that has a progressive bonus, you finished your money and your bonus money = meaning you are not eligible to withdraw the funds, remember? i wrote you need to wager X45, after you lost your money, it means NO BONUS.

You deposited  a small amount of money and returned playing the bonus, which is illegal by any means it called BONUS ABUSE.

Once, again, im telling you, you can contact the support to get your latest deposit.

So now i am a liar? Please point out one thing i have said which is not the truth?!

No, i played Scrooge by Microgaming, Beautiful Bones by Microgaming, Tower Quest by Play n Go and Primal Hunt by Betsoft. Primal hunt doesn't even have progressive bonuses.

There is no country in the world where it is illegal to play with a strategy. Do you just expect people to just walk in your casino with 1000 euros and bet 20 cents a time until their balance runs out?? Of course players are going to think about the best way to play. You should clarify in your terms if some slots are not allowed to be played with a bonus as I'm sure there will be more.

When I made my second deposit i hit the bonus rounds on spins i paid for with real money and no bonus active. Why would i contact support to accept a tiny portion of the funds you owe me? There was no guarantee i would progress enough through these slots with the bonus funds to make a profit, clearly, as i didn't even make a profit!

Again, I come to your casino, register one account, comply with your terms and you void my winnings even though my account wasn't in profit.

[agentF]

You played ONLY 3 slots that has a progressive bonus from the same provider, i can attach your gaming history so once again you are lying, you reached the bonus and you DID NOT PLAY the bonus, instead you moved to other slot to reach the next bonus stage.

You played 3 slots from the same provider that has a progressive bonus, you finished your money and your bonus money = meaning you are not eligible to withdraw the funds, remember? i wrote you need to wager X45, after you lost your money, it means NO BONUS.

You deposited  a small amount of money and returned playing the bonus, which is illegal by any means it called BONUS ABUSE.

Once, again, im telling you, you can contact the support to get your latest deposit.

So now i am a liar? Please point out one thing i have said which is not the truth?!

No, i played Scrooge by Microgaming, Beautiful Bones by Microgaming, Tower Quest by Play n Go and Primal Hunt by Betsoft. Primal hunt doesn't even have progressive bonuses.

There is no country in the world where it is illegal to play with a strategy. Do you just expect people to just walk in your casino with 1000 euros and bet 20 cents a time until their balance runs out?? Of course players are going to think about the best way to play. You should clarify in your terms if some slots are not allowed to be played with a bonus as I'm sure there will be more.

When I made my second deposit i hit the bonus rounds on spins i paid for with real money and no bonus active. Why would i contact support to accept a tiny portion of the funds you owe me? There was no guarantee i would progress enough through these slots with the bonus funds to make a profit, clearly, as i didn't even make a profit!

Again, I come to your casino, register one account, comply with your terms and you void my winnings even though my account wasn't in profit.

Once again, ignoring my comment, lol.

You played 3 slots from the same provider that has a progressive bonus, you finished your money and your bonus money = meaning you are not eligible to withdraw the funds, remember? i wrote you need to wager X45, after you lost your money, it means NO BONUS.

You deposited  a small amount of money and returned playing the bonus, which is illegal by any means it called BONUS ABUSE.

https://www.2crazy.com/en/contacts/terms-and-conditions

It was written there, black and white:

9.7. If a player or a group of players are abusing casino bonuses 2crazy  has the right to confiscate any wins thereof and to close the players account(s). Abusive behaviour towards bonuses and/or bonus abuse means:

i) A Player places bets and/or wagers amounting to the maximum allowed per bonus terms to raise the variance in order increase the balance

ii) Player lowers the bet and/or wager size after a big win and changes the game to one with a lower volatility

iii) Player makes deposits to cap out the bonus amount but not more. Applicable to match bonuses of 50% and above

After the account has been flagged as bonus abusing it is forbidden to use any other bonuses and/or participate in promotions at 2crazy.

Another evidence that i posted at the beginning of the thread - you need to wager X45.

PHOTO HERE


Once you did not reach wager X45 your strategy means bonus abuse.
Our conversation is over, have a wonderful day PEACH AND LOVE

[asshkkat]

I'm sorry if all this is too hard for you to understand, clearly you are new to this.

"You played 3 slots from the same provider "  - No i didn't, i played 4 slots from 3 different providers. Your own screenshots show that the games are from different providers.
"i wrote you need to wager X45, after you lost your money, it means NO BONUS." - No casino requires users to wager 45X their deposit after their bonus funds are finished and they make another deposit.
"You deposited a small amount of money and returned playing the bonus" - I deposited 112 euro's and continued playing 5 euro spins... the free spins were triggered by these bets - as your own screenshots show.

9.7. If a player or a group of players are abusing casino bonuses 2crazy  has the right to confiscate any wins thereof and to close the players account(s). Abusive behaviour towards bonuses and/or bonus abuse means:

i) A Player places bets and/or wagers amounting to the maximum allowed per bonus terms to raise the variance in order increase the balance

ii) Player lowers the bet and/or wager size after a big win and changes the game to one with a lower volatility

iii) Player makes deposits to cap out the bonus amount but not more. Applicable to match bonuses of 50% and above

Thank you for including all 3 definitions of bonus abuse within your terms, which one of these did i break? Oh, none of them.

[agentF]

I'm sorry if all this is too hard for you to understand, clearly you are new to this.

"You played 3 slots from the same provider "  - No i didn't, i played 4 slots from 3 different providers. Your own screenshots show that the games are from different providers.
"i wrote you need to wager X45, after you lost your money, it means NO BONUS." - No casino requires users to wager 45X their deposit after their bonus funds are finished and they make another deposit.
"You deposited a small amount of money and returned playing the bonus" - I deposited 112 euro's and continued playing 5 euro spins... the free spins were triggered by these bets - as your own screenshots show.

9.7. If a player or a group of players are abusing casino bonuses 2crazy  has the right to confiscate any wins thereof and to close the players account(s). Abusive behaviour towards bonuses and/or bonus abuse means:

i) A Player places bets and/or wagers amounting to the maximum allowed per bonus terms to raise the variance in order increase the balance

ii) Player lowers the bet and/or wager size after a big win and changes the game to one with a lower volatility

iii) Player makes deposits to cap out the bonus amount but not more. Applicable to match bonuses of 50% and above

Thank you for including all 3 definitions of bonus abuse within your terms, which one of these did i break? Oh, none of them.

You triggered the bonus  game with the bonus you received from our 150% bonus, you quit the slot and did not play the bonus. After that, you deposited and played the bonus, which means all the money you made from the slot are made with the bonus you received, therefore you can not withdraw the funds.


I wish you all the best!

[asshkkat]

I'm sorry if all this is too hard for you to understand, clearly you are new to this.

"You played 3 slots from the same provider "  - No i didn't, i played 4 slots from 3 different providers. Your own screenshots show that the games are from different providers.
"i wrote you need to wager X45, after you lost your money, it means NO BONUS." - No casino requires users to wager 45X their deposit after their bonus funds are finished and they make another deposit.
"You deposited a small amount of money and returned playing the bonus" - I deposited 112 euro's and continued playing 5 euro spins... the free spins were triggered by these bets - as your own screenshots show.

9.7. If a player or a group of players are abusing casino bonuses 2crazy  has the right to confiscate any wins thereof and to close the players account(s). Abusive behaviour towards bonuses and/or bonus abuse means:

i) A Player places bets and/or wagers amounting to the maximum allowed per bonus terms to raise the variance in order increase the balance

ii) Player lowers the bet and/or wager size after a big win and changes the game to one with a lower volatility

iii) Player makes deposits to cap out the bonus amount but not more. Applicable to match bonuses of 50% and above

Thank you for including all 3 definitions of bonus abuse within your terms, which one of these did i break? Oh, none of them.

You triggered the bonus  game with the bonus you received from our 150% bonus, you quit the slot and did not play the bonus. After that, you deposited and played the bonus, which means all the money you made from the slot are made with the bonus you received, therefore you can not withdraw the funds.


I wish you all the best!

If i triggered the bonus before making a deposit then how on earth did i continue to bet on the games with real money before triggering the bonus???
https://prnt.sc/x8ji3f

That's your own screenshot

[lienfaye]

I really like the design of your website very lively. Im using my mobile phone and never its going smooth accessing and playing the games so its a plus point. Lets just see in the coming days if there's a changes.

You offer a 200% deposit bonus for Bitcointalk members and a 150% bonus to all other players, did I understand that correctly?
But how are you going to know that a member came or is from Bitcointalk? During the registration process, we only need to submit an email, enter our password, and select the currency.

Im also curious about this, how can they identify if the user is from bitcointalk or should we need to inform them?

[agentF]

USDT has been added

[imstillthebest]

USDT has been added

how many times you posted this because you already said this at the main page long time ago

[22-03-2021] USDT has been enabled

or did i understand it incorrectly ? is being enabled different from being added in your own terms ?

You offer a 200% deposit bonus for Bitcointalk members and a 150% bonus to all other players, did I understand that correctly?
But how are you going to know that a member came or is from Bitcointalk? During the registration process, we only need to submit an email, enter our password, and select the currency.

Im also curious about this, how can they identify if the user is from bitcointalk or should we need to inform them?

if they put two different bonus  for a reason there must be a way to avail it .
i guess the best thing to do is to contact their representative in here .
 notify them that you are going to deposit and they will give instruction that you need to follow in order for you to obtain your 200% bonus .

[AmoreJaz]

USDT has been added

how many times you posted this because you already said this at the main page long time ago

[22-03-2021] USDT has been enabled

or did i understand it incorrectly ? is being enabled different from being added in your own terms ?
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i believe this is just to make their thread active. because if you noticed, no post after january. since this is a licensed casino already, if they still have funds for marketing, they can run a short sig campaign here in the forum. normally, people will check out the casino if they have active campaign and if handled also by a reputable BM.
btw, if they can add also FAQ section like, currencies accepted and the min deposit/withdrawal, their fees and all.

[agentF]

USDT has been added

how many times you posted this because you already said this at the main page long time ago

[22-03-2021] USDT has been enabled

or did i understand it incorrectly ? is being enabled different from being added in your own terms ?
-

i believe this is just to make their thread active. because if you noticed, no post after january. since this is a licensed casino already, if they still have funds for marketing, they can run a short sig campaign here in the forum. normally, people will check out the casino if they have active campaign and if handled also by a reputable BM.
btw, if they can add also FAQ section like, currencies accepted and the min deposit/withdrawal, their fees and all.

FAQ will be added shortly, unfortunately, from past experience and no offense, SIG campaigns usually dont bring so much traffic and of course no FTD's.

[Kakmakr]

That is a beautifully designed site you made there. Some users were complaining that it is slow, but I didn't experience any slowness on my laptop. Maybe it's just a problem on certain low-quality phones.

You offer a 200% deposit bonus for Bitcointalk members and a 150% bonus to all other players, did I understand that correctly?
But how are you going to know that a member came or is from Bitcointalk? During the registration process, we only need to submit an email, enter our password, and select the currency.

I recently talked to a online casino owner and he says without a doubt that the casinos offering these large deposit bonuses are definitely scamming people. The ridiculous wager requirements to withdraw winnings after the bonus, makes it almost impossible for the player to profit from these bonuses.

Yes, it is profitable for people who are Streaming their gambling sessions, because they can play longer and they get specific advantages from that, but for the average gambler it is a scam.  

[Bitinity]

That is a beautifully designed site you made there. Some users were complaining that it is slow, but I didn't experience any slowness on my laptop. Maybe it's just a problem on certain low-quality phones.

You offer a 200% deposit bonus for Bitcointalk members and a 150% bonus to all other players, did I understand that correctly?
But how are you going to know that a member came or is from Bitcointalk? During the registration process, we only need to submit an email, enter our password, and select the currency.

I recently talked to a online casino owner and he says without a doubt that the casinos offering these large deposit bonuses are definitely scamming people. The ridiculous wager requirements to withdraw winnings after the bonus, makes it almost impossible for the player to profit from these bonuses.

Yes, it is profitable for people who are Streaming their gambling sessions, because they can play longer and they get specific advantages from that, but for the average gambler it is a scam.  

I'm not really sure which casino owner you are referring to, but I guess he/she said like that is because it is all about competition. We cant judge casino is scamming people just because the casino offers deposit bonus. Deposit bonus is a common thing and it has high wagering requirement obviously but it does not mean that the casino is scamming people. People is not forced to take the deposit bonus as it is just an offer.

[agentF]

That is a beautifully designed site you made there. Some users were complaining that it is slow, but I didn't experience any slowness on my laptop. Maybe it's just a problem on certain low-quality phones.

You offer a 200% deposit bonus for Bitcointalk members and a 150% bonus to all other players, did I understand that correctly?
But how are you going to know that a member came or is from Bitcointalk? During the registration process, we only need to submit an email, enter our password, and select the currency.

I recently talked to a online casino owner and he says without a doubt that the casinos offering these large deposit bonuses are definitely scamming people. The ridiculous wager requirements to withdraw winnings after the bonus, makes it almost impossible for the player to profit from these bonuses.

Yes, it is profitable for people who are Streaming their gambling sessions, because they can play longer and they get specific advantages from that, but for the average gambler it is a scam.  

I'm not really sure which casino owner you are referring to, but I guess he/she said like that is because it is all about competition. We cant judge casino is scamming people just because the casino offers deposit bonus. Deposit bonus is a common thing and it has high wagering requirement obviously but it does not mean that the casino is scamming people. People is not forced to take the deposit bonus as it is just an offer.

Exactly.

We also had many players who successfully managed to finish the wagering amount, and you are correct, we are not forcing the players to take the bonus we also give away free bonus cash for VIP players.

 

[TimeTeller]

That is a beautifully designed site you made there. Some users were complaining that it is slow, but I didn't experience any slowness on my laptop. Maybe it's just a problem on certain low-quality phones.

You offer a 200% deposit bonus for Bitcointalk members and a 150% bonus to all other players, did I understand that correctly?
But how are you going to know that a member came or is from Bitcointalk? During the registration process, we only need to submit an email, enter our password, and select the currency.

I recently talked to a online casino owner and he says without a doubt that the casinos offering these large deposit bonuses are definitely scamming people. The ridiculous wager requirements to withdraw winnings after the bonus, makes it almost impossible for the player to profit from these bonuses.

Yes, it is profitable for people who are Streaming their gambling sessions, because they can play longer and they get specific advantages from that, but for the average gambler it is a scam. 

I'm not really sure which casino owner you are referring to, but I guess he/she said like that is because it is all about competition. We cant judge casino is scamming people just because the casino offers deposit bonus. Deposit bonus is a common thing and it has high wagering requirement obviously but it does not mean that the casino is scamming people. People is not forced to take the deposit bonus as it is just an offer.

Exactly.

We also had many players who successfully managed to finish the wagering amount, and you are correct, we are not forcing the players to take the bonus we also give away free bonus cash for VIP players.
 

If I may suggest, you can also gain interest from players here if you will run some contests.
Up to you what type of contest. But I noticed here, if a casino is running some type of contest from time to time, players are eager to join.
Hard to sustain their interest as we have a lot of choices now, even in this forum alone.
So you need to keep up that interest as much as you can. Remember, people are just hopping from one casino to another.

[Vaskiy]

That is a beautifully designed site you made there. Some users were complaining that it is slow, but I didn't experience any slowness on my laptop. Maybe it's just a problem on certain low-quality phones.

You offer a 200% deposit bonus for Bitcointalk members and a 150% bonus to all other players, did I understand that correctly?
But how are you going to know that a member came or is from Bitcointalk? During the registration process, we only need to submit an email, enter our password, and select the currency.

I recently talked to a online casino owner and he says without a doubt that the casinos offering these large deposit bonuses are definitely scamming people. The ridiculous wager requirements to withdraw winnings after the bonus, makes it almost impossible for the player to profit from these bonuses.

Yes, it is profitable for people who are Streaming their gambling sessions, because they can play longer and they get specific advantages from that, but for the average gambler it is a scam. 

I'm not really sure which casino owner you are referring to, but I guess he/she said like that is because it is all about competition. We cant judge casino is scamming people just because the casino offers deposit bonus. Deposit bonus is a common thing and it has high wagering requirement obviously but it does not mean that the casino is scamming people. People is not forced to take the deposit bonus as it is just an offer.

Exactly.

We also had many players who successfully managed to finish the wagering amount, and you are correct, we are not forcing the players to take the bonus we also give away free bonus cash for VIP players.
 

If I may suggest, you can also gain interest from players here if you will run some contests.
Up to you what type of contest. But I noticed here, if a casino is running some type of contest from time to time, players are eager to join.
Hard to sustain their interest as we have a lot of choices now, even in this forum alone.
So you need to keep up that interest as much as you can. Remember, people are just hopping from one casino to another.

People prefer using different gambling websites, and the majority of the deposit happens with one or two specific casino. Contests too play a big role in attracting players, bigger than that is the VIP programs and the regular bonuses. Everyone won't be getting this, but people will keep wagering to reach certain level only if they like the gambling site performance and the edge.

[agentF]

AskGamblers video review has been added - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-m3FgBOOE