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January 22, 2021, 10:18:21 PM |
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.
Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?
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January 22, 2021, 11:31:42 PM |
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.
Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?
don't we have more important issues than that? like getting rid of the Insane Democrats? or building feminist cities/empires so women are finally happy
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Make both of them happy, the other will feel discontent and want refund on their purchase.
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January 23, 2021, 10:59:58 AM |
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.
Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?
This is messed up. Why would you allow a men who chooses to be a woman, compete against real woman? That is just unfair because his body is much stronger than that of a real woman. Why not make their own league for trans men and woman, so they can compete seperately? It feels like they are getting privilge over the other sexes.
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January 23, 2021, 12:55:07 PM |
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For pro sports, I've long thought that they should split it into several divisions depending on your levels of certain hormones, similar to how fighting sports have weight divisions. Natural hormone levels are a huge determining factor in sports even among people of the same birth sex. Maybe they should even allow people to supplement hormones to bring them up to some standard levels for the division. The vast majority of people are basically excluded at birth from ever competing in eg. the Olympics because no matter how high their personal drive/spirit, they just don't have good enough body chemistry, and is that really fair?
If I was in charge of a school and I was required to preserve exactly two divisions for men and women respectively, I'd probably allow transgender athletes to compete where they want, since it's a school, not a pro sports league, and the risk/cost of emotionally harming a transgender student through ostracism seems higher than the risk of a transgender student intentionally cheating the system and completely ruining everyone else's fun. Owners of schools/leagues/property should have the right to set their own policies, though, including dividing it purely along birth-sex lines if they wish. No need for a one-size-fits-all policy, and I oppose government restrictions on private property owners.
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January 23, 2021, 01:15:37 PM |
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No need for a one-size-fits-all policy, and I oppose government restrictions on private property owners.
i am against government restrictions on provite property... unless that private property causes harm/danger and true mental debilitation to others, ,because then its no longer private if it affects others also nothing stopping them making a 3rd soccer league/olympic devision called 'anyone can play' where disabled transgedered, male and female can compete against each other, heck. throw in a lion and cheetah into the mix and ses who wins. 100metre run would be more entertaining with a sharpened claw cheetah in the lanes
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January 23, 2021, 02:02:07 PM |
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I agree with hormone divisions. We have weight divisions for the same purpose, because one day someone noticed that a 100kg wrestler will 9/10 times win against a 50 kg wrestler. Since there are women who have incredible muscle mass and look like men on steroids, why not put them up against men in competitions? It's pretty much the same with transgender people. You can feel like whoever you like for all I care. If you feel like a lion, you can jump into a cage with lions, I won't shed a tear, but the competitions should be made so that 30 year old pervs who think they're teenage girls are not allowed to compete in sports against those girls.
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January 23, 2021, 02:18:36 PM |
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For pro sports, I've long thought that they should split it into several divisions depending on your levels of certain hormones, similar to how fighting sports have weight divisions. Natural hormone levels are a huge determining factor in sports even among people of the same birth sex. Maybe they should even allow people to supplement hormones to bring them up to some standard levels for the division. The vast majority of people are basically excluded at birth from ever competing in eg. the Olympics because no matter how high their personal drive/spirit, they just don't have good enough body chemistry, and is that really fair?
If I was in charge of a school and I was required to preserve exactly two divisions for men and women respectively, I'd probably allow transgender athletes to compete where they want, since it's a school, not a pro sports league, and the risk/cost of emotionally harming a transgender student through ostracism seems higher than the risk of a transgender student intentionally cheating the system and completely ruining everyone else's fun. Owners of schools/leagues/property should have the right to set their own policies, though, including dividing it purely along birth-sex lines if they wish. No need for a one-size-fits-all policy, and I oppose government restrictions on private property owners.
What about the risk/cost of emotionally harming non transgender kids "girls" when they're continuously getting beat by a man who identify as a little girl ? they just don't have good enough body chemistry, and is that really fair? Who said life is fair or that it has to be ? Creating sub divisions for people with low hormone levels because they werent fortunate enough to be born with good body chemistry is just stupid.
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January 23, 2021, 02:24:08 PM |
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.
Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?
Sports benefits people with an appropriate physique anyway, though, and often in a way that makes skill less of an issue. Although this depends on the sport. For example, even if I were exceptionally skilled at basketball (I'm not), then I'd never make it as a professional player because I'm not 7ft-whatever tall. But there are other sports where skill is more important. Footballers for example can be a range of physiques from tall strong centre-backs to slender, fast wingers. And there are other sports such as motor racing or snooker where height and strength are much less of an issue. I would say that if you are good enough at sports, it's a case of finding one that suits you. Certain sports will always benefit people with certain physical attributes, that has always been the case and will continue to be so regardless of the gender issue. Other sports, is less of an issue or no issue at all.
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January 23, 2021, 02:31:53 PM |
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.
Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?
There should be one category: Homo Sapiens. Maybe we'll have to have another category for "Homo AI" soon. Humans should be allowed to use whatever chemicals or naturally occurring substances they want to improve their performance. Without any 'drug rules', people can just get to the business of competing, not cheating, and beating the drug tests. Right now, we have to worry about other issues, like having Olympics ever again, not which category to put transgender people in.
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January 23, 2021, 03:00:51 PM |
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.
Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?
There should be one category: Homo Sapiens. Yah I agree, just make all sports unisex. I mean the ladies are going to get fucked up in like mma, but hey equal rights.
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January 23, 2021, 03:19:35 PM |
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I mean the ladies are going to get fucked up in like mma, but hey equal rights.
In MMA you have the right to accept or decline a challenge. Nobody is going to make a female fight a transgender male, it's up to her. Maybe set up a special trans league where all those hormone pumped boys, girls and fluids can duke it out?
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January 23, 2021, 03:31:02 PM |
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I mean the ladies are going to get fucked up in like mma, but hey equal rights.
In MMA you have the right to accept or decline a challenge. Nobody is going to make a female fight a transgender male, it's up to her. Maybe set up a special trans league where all those hormone pumped boys, girls and fluids can duke it out? Nah, just let everyone duke it out in the same ring if they want to. #equalrights
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January 23, 2021, 03:59:55 PM |
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.
Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?
I agree that genitals is the main sexes that exist between both genders but you'll agree with me that, it takes more than just genitals to belong to either side. Being a man, you've got your structure and also how you think to deal with. That a woman goes to the gem doesn't make her muscular equal with man and that men run transgender surgery to participate in a feminine category sport doesn't make the game a fair game. It's very much going to be unequal and the game won't be fair. It's not a good idea at all.
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January 23, 2021, 04:04:59 PM |
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They simply don't know about them or just want to satisfy the feeling of trans they said like that but I don't think it will work practically as most others said. Trans could be much stronger than an actual woman s it will become an unfair competition or even it will make the audience lose their interest in watching such unfair games.
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January 23, 2021, 05:38:20 PM |
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.
Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?
The Olympics haven't had the same respect for years now, after all the doping "TOP" Athletes getting outed, never known anyone nor myself to care for it other than living here in the states, and having a slight want for the USA to succeed out of sheer blind patriotism. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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I remember when AP tried to fact check this and failed miserably. I used to think AP was the most neutral news source but even them can't even keep their rampant bias to themselves: https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9582957367They quote Biden as this "“The idea that an 8-year-old child or a 10-year-old child decides, ‘You know I decided I want to be transgender. That’s what I think I’d like to be. It would make my life a lot easier.’ There should be zero discrimination.” Yeah, sure, let children pick what gender they want to be, let them transition. No problem there. And apparently biological males can use the girls' room too!
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For pro sports, I've long thought that they should split it into several divisions depending on your levels of certain hormones, similar to how fighting sports have weight divisions. Natural hormone levels are a huge determining factor in sports even among people of the same birth sex. Maybe they should even allow people to supplement hormones to bring them up to some standard levels for the division. The vast majority of people are basically excluded at birth from ever competing in eg. the Olympics because no matter how high their personal drive/spirit, they just don't have good enough body chemistry, and is that really fair?
If I was in charge of a school and I was required to preserve exactly two divisions for men and women respectively, I'd probably allow transgender athletes to compete where they want, since it's a school, not a pro sports league, and the risk/cost of emotionally harming a transgender student through ostracism seems higher than the risk of a transgender student intentionally cheating the system and completely ruining everyone else's fun. Owners of schools/leagues/property should have the right to set their own policies, though, including dividing it purely along birth-sex lines if they wish. No need for a one-size-fits-all policy, and I oppose government restrictions on private property owners.
Or.. They could be simply recommended mental health counseling..
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January 24, 2021, 01:11:27 AM |
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.
yeah, it would and it will negatively affect women(at least in my opinion). Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?
in a physical sport? mostly not(there is still a possibility that a woman can win against a man in physical sport), but in non-physical sports(chess and such)? yes. it would be extremely unfair to mix two sexes especially with the obvious biological differences which are unfavourable to women when it comes to physical sports.
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January 24, 2021, 07:15:01 AM |
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Won`t our Olympics be kind of fucked up with a bunch of men who think they are women in the women category.
Do you think real women will actually ever win anything now?
<> Humans should be allowed to use whatever chemicals or naturally occurring substances they want to improve their performance. Without any 'drug rules', people can just get to the business of competing, not cheating, and beating the drug tests. <> The Olympics is supposed to be a competition among amateur athletes. Performance-enhancing drugs are banned in the Olympics because the winner of Olympic metals is supposed to be the best athletes, not who can find/take the best performance-enhancing drugs. Or.. They could be simply recommended mental health counseling..
The left appears to almost encourage people to become transgender. I believe someone saying they are considering changing their gender/pronouns is most often a cry for help and not an actual desire to change their gender. I have heard the example of a 10-year-old "deciding" they want to change their gender and the argument that this should be allowed. Someone who is 10 lacks the capacity to consent to this kind of medical procedure, and a parent deciding their child will receive this kind of medical procedure is child abuse. In reality, a 10-year-old has not actually "decided" they want to change their gender, more frequently, they are saying this in response to outside influence such as from their abusive parents.
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