... Vitamin-D Rollout following 82% reduction in COVID-19 deaths in Spain

[Cnut237]

Anybody can draw pretty charts. If you look for it, you can find statistics that say that US total deaths in 2017-2018 might have surpassed 2020 total deaths.

Hmm. When I look, I see something different:



The issue isn't that there was a sudden surge in 'comorbidities' in 2020 that weirdly happened to coincide exactly with the Covid pandemic, even down to the March/April surge.
The issue is that there was a pandemic, and people died from Covid. And as you'd expect, many of those were people who already had underlying health issues.

[BADecker]

Anybody can draw pretty charts. If you look for it, you can find statistics that say that US total deaths in 2017-2018 might have surpassed 2020 total deaths.

Hmm. When I look, I see something different:

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The issue isn't that there was a sudden surge in 'comorbidities' in 2020 that weirdly happened to coincide exactly with the Covid pandemic, even down to the March/April surge.
The issue is that there was a pandemic, and people died from Covid. And as you'd expect, many of those were people who already had underlying health issues.

All you are suggesting is that the CDC is lying. You seem to forget that there are all kinds of triggers (to use franky1's word) that could have been the straw that broke the comorbidity camel's back... not only Covid. So, you take your pick of charts that make you feel comfortable, somehow, with the CDC lies that you know are lies, even though you might not know in which direction they are lying.

The question is, are you going to keep on with this charade? Or are you going to, at least, admit that the possibility exists that Covid might be close to 100% a lie, and that the pandemic IS possibly a 100% lie, even if you don't believe it is a lie?

Consider, the contradictions that exist are enormous. This suggests either total incompetence regarding the medical leaders, or a big fat conspiracy.

[Mariangle Blocker]

The lockdowns have caused many people to stay inside, and out of the sun. Being exposed to the sun allows people to get Vitamin D naturally. There have been links between a lack of Vitamin D and higher rates of Covid deaths found in studies.

I would conclude this to mean the closings of parks and beaches actually increased covid related deaths. Thanks Roy Cooper

We need something for Vitamin D and at the same time we should take the vaccine. Covid is terrible, not matter whether the government did overstatement. To protect our lives, take the pills and take vaccine, I think.

[Tash]

The lockdowns have caused many people to stay inside, and out of the sun. Being exposed to the sun allows people to get Vitamin D naturally. There have been links between a lack of Vitamin D and higher rates of Covid deaths found in studies.

I would conclude this to mean the closings of parks and beaches actually increased covid related deaths. Thanks Roy Cooper

We need something for Vitamin D and at the same time we should take the vaccine. Covid is terrible, not matter whether the government did overstatement. To protect our lives, take the pills and take vaccine, I think.

Take at least two dose see if you can get more better save than sorry, do some good for mankind.

[Cnut237]

take the pills and take vaccine, I think.

Yes, definitely. It makes sense. There is some evidence that vitamin D helps, and there is no danger from taking too much vitamin D, so definitely use it. Ans obviously vaccines have been proven to work, so take that when you get the chance, to protect yourself and others.

[BADecker]

^^^ Absolutely, vaccines have proven to do some kind of work. But the work is detrimental, and often downright criminal, with the deaths that are happening because of vaccines.

You can do Internets searches, along with reading your standard newspapers, and watching your standard news media television to see this.

If you want to see what many extremely knowledgeable doctors are saying about vaccines, watch and listen to Del Bigtree interviewing them - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/.

[franky1]

take the pills and take vaccine, I think.

Yes, definitely. It makes sense. There is some evidence that vitamin D helps, and there is no danger from taking too much vitamin D, so definitely use it. Ans obviously vaccines have been proven to work, so take that when you get the chance, to protect yourself and others.

vitamin overdosing does have negatives. hyper calcemia. kidney damage and much more.
especially in the amounts and frequency badecker pretends he takes.
its like painkillers. small amounts ok. but megadosing on them is literally suicide.

take it IF YOU NEED IT. not because some one says you want lots of it.

as for badecker trying to recommend 40-70k dosage.. im guessing the tablets are saying X but the actually dosage inside the tablet is 100x less (as is with most scammy homeopathy supplements) meaning actually its only 400ul-700ul. and the rest is filler
400ul-700ul sounds like the normal dosage range people should have.. or save the money and just go for a 30minute walk

[BADecker]

^^^ For me? Thanks, franky1. One question. Does any of what you said there have any meaning? Please explain?

[franky1]

badecker. your ignorance is clear.

my point if you ever intend to read something. is that your recommendation to overdose on supplements sounds like the PR material of herbalife pyramid scam "just buy more"
just check out your footnote.. your advertising pharma products while pretending people need those products to be anti-pharma. you are a complete contradiction.

if you cared about peoples actual health you would not be sounding like a salesman trying to just sell more supplements/pillmill products. instead you would actually be looking and researching into what people actually need. using fair dosages and suggestions.

you are over selling your supplements and underselling the benefits/risks
you completely lie about stuff just to advertise supplements.

so yea. my point is clear. you dont give a crap about peoples health even though for 10months now you have been trying to pretend your words benefit peoples health

but to emphasis:
400-700ul of vitamin D .. not your recommended 40,000ul-70.000ul
.. well u can take 40,000 but your paying 100x more. and you will love peeing out kidney stones

[BADecker]

badecker. your ignorance is clear.

my point if you ever intend to read something. is that your recommendation to overdose on supplements sounds like the PR material of herbalife pyramid scam "just buy more"
just check out your footnote.. your advertising pharma products while pretending people need those products to be anti-pharma. you are a complete contradiction.

if you cared about peoples actual health you would not be sounding like a salesman trying to just sell more supplements/pillmill products. instead you would actually be looking and researching into what people actually need. using fair dosages and suggestions.

you are over selling your supplements and underselling the benefits/risks
you completely lie about stuff just to advertise supplements.

so yea. my point is clear. you dont give a crap about peoples health even though for 10months now you have been trying to pretend your words benefit peoples health

but to emphasis:
400-700ul of vitamin D .. not your recommended 40,000ul-70.000ul
.. well u can take 40,000 but your paying 100x more. and you will love peeing out kidney stones

I get it. You're still hung up on the overdosing of HCQ in the tests the CDC ran. We both know they did it this way to hush up the effectiveness of this inexpensive cure for Covid, so they could promote their dangerous vaccines.

As far as vitamin D goes, whatever works, don't you think? If a billion units works for somebody, shouldn't they take it? Around 50,000 works for me.

Now, lets combine the important thought in both of my above paragraphs. The CDC/FDA/NIH recommends whatever works to bring in money, right? They overdose on HCQ so it looks bad, and they underdose on vitamin D so that it barely works.

You constantly talk about doing research. It isn't doing research that counts. It's accepting the right research that counts... but at least acknowledging that there is research that contradicts the research you preach.

If you had had the right research long ago, you would have saved yourself all your physical problems that you have now, right?

[franky1]

whatever works.. as long as it works. does not mean sell it to everyone no matter what.

your game is to say something works in one place. EG spain offering max of 16000ui a day.. TO PEOPLE WITH KNOWN DEFICIENCY and are currently in need of fueling their immune system because they are in the middle of an infection.. hense the high 16000 for those..
but you use it as your 'proof' to say EVERYONE no matter if deficient or not, no matter if currently fighting an infection or not, should take 40000-70000ui daily for as long as possible

utter idiocy
im just surprised your conspiracy influencers pretending to be health gurus havent yet tried to tie you into some herbalife/nutrilife pyramid scam

[BADecker]

whatever works.. as long as it works. does not mean sell it to everyone no matter what.

your game is to say something works in one place. EG spain offering max of 16000ui a day.. TO PEOPLE WITH KNOWN DEFICIENCY and are currently in need of fueling their immune system because they are in the middle of an infection.. hense the high 16000 for those..
but you use it as your 'proof' to say EVERYONE no matter if deficient or not, no matter if currently fighting an infection or not, should take 40000-70000ui daily for as long as possible

utter idiocy
im just surprised your conspiracy influencers pretending to be health gurus havent yet tried to tie you into some herbalife/nutrilife pyramid scam

I have taken over 200,000 units of vitamin D per day. I'm fine. So, you know what that means? It simply means that you want to go along with the medical and keep people as sick as you possibly can. And recommending useless amounts of vitamin D is part of your way of doing it.

[franky1]

i guess what your taking doesnt actually have in the pill what the label says it has
200000iu should be a 6monthly amount. not something you take daily

[Poker Player]

I've got franky1 on ignore but I've read him when BADecker has quoted him and, LOL, he's recommending 400 IUs, which is ridiculous. What we are saying is that current recommended official doses are way too low. They do nothing. Well, yes, they help prevent rickets, which is useless for 99.9% of people nowadays. For boosting your inmune system and avoid taking many of the medicines Big Pharma wants you to take you need to take doses much higher than that.

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[franky1]

and i laugh because the idiots promoting vit D have no clue at alll

a normal person uses 400-700iu a day.. meaning they need the equivelent of half an hour walk in winter
(10mins in summer)

however if your a basement dweller with no conversion issues internally then taking a supplement of that amount is adequate too.

however if you have internal conversion issues where the vitamin D in your body does not get used. say by 50% then you would need double time outdoors or double supplement. meaning ~1000iu

taking more then this is if you cant be bothered to venture out of your basement for 6 months and also cant be bothered to take a daily normal dose. so instead you take a single shot every 6 months of 180k iu
where your body then converts the 180k iu slowly over the 6 months because you have stockpiled it.
meaning day 1: 179000 left.. day 2:17800 left.. and so on..
..
whats not recommended if to be taking 16k a day because its then
day1: 15000 day2: 30000 day3: 45000. day4: 60000... day8:120000... day16:240000
meaning within 16 days you are at a higher level accumulating in your body than a single 6monthly dosage
which means by the end of first month you are at double toxic risk than a 6month single dose.

so doing the math of instead of 16k a day and instead lets say 60k (badecker preference)
your at a 6month dose amount within 4 days. and thus accumulating toxic amounts sooner.

emphasis: your body does not use 1000iu a day. so no need to be megadosing large amounts daily.
higher dosages are only needed for 2 purposes:
1. going long periods of not getting any vit D intake.
2. in the middle of a infection

do not megadose/overdose as a daily use strategy
decide.
if you want to take 8000-16000iu(healthy-bad converter) then do that 2 times a month. not daily.
or if you want to take 30000-60000iu(healthy-bad converter) every 2 months. not daily.
or have ~500iu a day if healthy. or 1000iu if you know you have conversion issues internally

but remember its much more simpler and cheaper to just get out in daylight for like half an hour a day

[BADecker]

Tiny amounts of vitamin D do exactly what tiny amounts do. They produce tiny results.

If you want results that cure 82% of people from Covid, take reasonable mega-doses of vitamin D.

[BADecker]

^^^ Vitamin D is good. But be very sure about the vaccine.

The common cold is a coronavirus. They've been trying to make a vaccine for it over at least the last 30 years. They have failed. Their failures include the killing off of many test animals. In addition, when you get right into the numbers and the statistics regarding the Covid vaccines, the truth isn't coming out. The vaccines are dangerous. Search through this link to find videos on vaccine explanations - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/.

[Poker Player]

Tiny amounts of vitamin D do exactly what tiny amounts do. They produce tiny results.

If you want results that cure 82% of people from Covid, take reasonable mega-doses of vitamin D.

Yes. Many people think that 20,000 IU is a mega dose, when it is easy to get that amount from the sun for short exposures at latitudes near the equator.

We should talk about blood levels and not doses to be more precise, but it's the same thing. Blood levels of 30ng/ml of vitamin D are too low. Beach watchers can naturally reach up to 140 ng/ml.

[franky1]

Yes. Many people think that 20,000 IU is a mega dose, when it is easy to get that amount from the sun for short exposures at latitudes near the equator.

being shirtless wearing shorts. and basking in the midsummer sun on the equator for 10minutes. can radiate your body upto20000iu
.. but thats sunbathing at 40^oc .. and you will know about it when you feel the sting of sunburn

wearing normal shirt and trousers. probably 10000ui per 10min. youl still feel it on the exposed arms and face. you know that red sting feeling.. but oh well. you were the one that decided to be out in the midday sun at the equator without suncream..

these examples are not examples that your body needs 10000-20000. nor examples that you use 10000-20000. its examples of extreme amounts foolish people can accumplish if they sunbathe in silly places without covering themselves up

and doing this every day.. well that comes with its own issues

10000-20000 is not a normal daily amount. its an extreme level for folks that want to imitate lobsters. (hard red skin)

normal latitudes normal days. normal clothing. and wearing suncream. the amount of vit d will be far lower.
so stop overdosing on the sun or on vitamins thinking overdosing is normal.

[Cnut237]

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The question is, are you going to keep on with this charade? Or are you going to, at least, admit that the possibility exists that Covid might be close to 100% a lie, and that the pandemic IS possibly a 100% lie, even if you don't believe it is a lie?

BADecker.

I'll admit any possibility initially, and am willing to be swayed by hard evidence. But in this instance the evidence is overwhelming that something caused huge numbers of extra deaths in 2020, and that the peaks coincided with the rise of Covid, and the troughs coincided with lockdowns. It's pretty conclusive, and the evidence is derived from many countries and many different sources.

I know that you and I have very different perspectives on most topics, but I'm drawn to the—perhaps erroneous—assumption that you start from a desired conclusion, and then seek out evidence to corroborate a thing that you've already decided. Obviously I think I'm impartial, but I'm aware that of course I also have my own biases... it's very difficult for anyone to assess issues with 100% perfect objectivity and no preconceived notions.

I think I'd be more comfortable discussing things with you if you could give me an example of sometime in the past where you've had a firm conviction on something but you then changed your opinion completely when confronted with evidence.

An example from me would be that I used to argue that all religions should be abolished, because they brought nothing but conflict and persecution, and were in essence evil. Since then, whilst I still don't believe in god, I've come to understand from speaking to people with strong beliefs that religious affiliation brings huge social benefits and can often be a force for good. I would now argue a much more nuanced perspective.

Could I have an example from you?