Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?

[Cnut237]

Pfizer vaccines are fairly hard to store with the extremely demanding storage conditions. It would be impossible for everyone on earth to have access to a vaccine anytime soon. I would be more concerned about those poorer countries which would likely be a hotbed for the virus. Pfizer vaccines requires 2 doses for it to be effective and there should be still a limited supply, I don't think SinoVac and others has reached the required threshold yet. Herd immunity would be hard enough to achieve, especially given all the fake news surrounding it (No. I'm not interested to discuss this with all the conspiracy theories, go find a doctor.)

I don't think COVID would be eradicated anytime soon, it would probably stick around like the Flu virus which makes it a seasonal virus. I do hope that the cases could go down and everyone could go back to their normal activities.

Yes. Vaccinating everyone in a country (or sufficiently close to everyone to confer herd immunity within the country) is obviously a good thing, but is certainly not the end of the virus. Producing enough vaccine doses is one challenge, as is (in some countries) getting the anti-vaxxers to accept it. Pfizer does indeed present storage and transportation challenges. AFAIK the AstraZeneca vaccine is the only one at the moment that can be used with 'normal' refrigeration.

But the bigger issue is that nations are interconnected and this is a global problem, hence the 'pan' in pandemic. Whilst the virus continues to circulate amongst some populations, it will continue to mutate, and to produce vaccine-resistant strains, which can then infect those who've already been vaccinated against the original strain. Key here is how quickly the pharmaceutical companies can re-engineer their vaccines to address mutated strains... and anecdotal evidence suggests they can do so relatively quickly, in weeks... so I think we have grounds for cautious optimism.

[Tzupy]

No, all the existing Covid-19 vaccines need to be adjusted for the new mutations, especially the South African ones.
Efficacy of the existing vaccines drops from 95% for the old variants, to 80% for the UK variant, and only 65% for the SA variant.

[squatz1]

Johnson and Johnson released their COVID vaccine, and there was another company, Moderna maybe?

Apparently they only require one dose, so with the same production you could get the population vaccinated twice as fast.

Problem is only compliance. Black/hispanic community are not choosing to get vaccinated, some health care workers even. We have a demand problem, not supply.

Just as a note here, the Johnson and Johnson vaccine isn’t as effective as the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. J&J has efficacy of approximatetly 65%, while Moderna and Pfizer are above 90%

Makes it much easier logistically, and is probably best to give to people who are younger and wouldn’t be at much of risk when they get COVID anyway while reserving the high efficacy vaccines for at risk / older people who would be at a much higher risk of death if they were to get COVID.

Personally can’t wait to get my vaccine, but that’s just me.

[BADecker]

Here is a little of what ICAN is doing - https://www.icandecide.org/.

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ICAN FACT CHECKS NYS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

ICAN	LEGAL UPDATE

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ICAN achieved another victory in its ongoing campaign to ensure the government does not spread false information about vaccines.  New York State’s Department of Health prepared a social media campaign pushing the COVID-19 vaccines.  One of the ads falsely stated that the vaccines “went through the same rigorous approval process that all vaccines go through” and that “the vaccine is safe and effective. It was approved by the FDA, the CDC, and by NY’s independent vaccine panel.”  ICAN, through its attorneys, wrote to Dr. Howard Zucker, Commissioner of New York State’s Department of Health, and to Governor Cuomo, demanding they remove the false graphics and messaging regarding COVID-19 vaccines.  They quickly complied and removed the relevant false messaging.

On January 26, 2021, ICAN’s attorneys sent a letter to NYS DOH and Governor Cuomo informing them that they were violating federal law.  As part of Governor Cuomo’s #VaccinateNY campaign, NYS’s COVID-19 website provides materials to encourage and “educate” people about the COVID-19 vaccines. The social media materials are meant to be shared by New Yorkers to help spread the word and included the following poster:

[The poster is shown at the ICAN website]

Above this social media graphic, Cuomo and the NYS DOH provide the following “Sample Message” for individuals to use on social media: “The vaccine is safe and effective.  It was approved by the FDA, the CDC, and NY’s independent vaccine panel. Let’s #VaccinateNY!”

[Again, visit the ICAN website]

This social media messaging – intended to be shared and spread widely – made the false claim that the FDA “approved” a COVID-19 vaccine.  This is categorically false.  There is no COVID-19 vaccine that has been “approved” by the FDA.  The only two COVID-19 vaccines currently in use are authorized by the FDA pursuant to an emergency use authorization (“EUA”).

 

In fact, the FDA authorization letters (<<< Two Links There) for both COVID-19 vaccines expressly provide that the vaccines are each “an investigational vaccine not licensed for any indication” and require that “[a]ll promotional material relating to the COVID-19 Vaccine clearly and conspicuously … state that this product has not been approved or licensed by the FDA.”

 

Moreover, one would imagine that the Commissioner of the NYS DOH and the Governor would know that the CDC does not “approve” vaccines and that it would be false for them to claim that the CDC approved any COVID-19 vaccine.  Even worse, the two COVID-19 vaccines are still undergoing clinical trials, hence they were also spreading misinformation when they claimed that these EUA authorized products “went through the same rigorous approval process that all vaccines go through.”

 

New York State and Governor Cuomo needed to be fact checked.  We are pleased to tell you that, after being notified that failure to remove the inaccurate graphic and its false messaging would result in a lawsuit, New York State took it down.  This is another victory that should serve to remind New York State, Governor Cuomo, and others that someone is watching.  ICAN’s message should be heard loud and clear: you may not spread “misinformation” about vaccines.

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[bryant.coleman]

No, all the existing Covid-19 vaccines need to be adjusted for the new mutations, especially the South African ones.
Efficacy of the existing vaccines drops from 95% for the old variants, to 80% for the UK variant, and only 65% for the SA variant.

This is extremely worrying. There was a study on the South African variant, and it was found that the vaccines which are in use currently have very low efficacy against it (even lower than what you have posted). Here is a link:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/08/oxford-covid-vaccine-10-effective-south-african-variant-study

Oxford Covid vaccine has 10% efficacy against South African variant, study suggests

The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine offers as little as 10% protection against the Covid variant first seen in South Africa, researchers have suggested. Scientists who conducted a small-scale trial of the vaccine’s efficacy said it showed very little protection against mild to moderate infection, though they expressed hope that – in theory – it would still offer significant protection against more serious infection.

This study was conducted for the vaccine from AstraZeneca and I don't know whether the vaccines from Pfizer or Moderna are showing a better efficacy or not. But the information we have till now is very worrying. And the worst part is that we may witness more mutations like the South African strains in the near future.

[Tash]

No, all the existing Covid-19 vaccines need to be adjusted for the new mutations, especially the South African ones.
Efficacy of the existing vaccines drops from 95% for the old variants, to 80% for the UK variant, and only 65% for the SA variant.

The vaccine is the mutation.
Brazil, UK and South Africa where places AstraZeneca vaccine was trialed.

[tvbcof]

No, all the existing Covid-19 vaccines need to be adjusted for the new mutations, especially the South African ones.
Efficacy of the existing vaccines drops from 95% for the old variants, to 80% for the UK variant, and only 65% for the SA variant.

The vaccine is the mutation.
Brazil, UK and South Africa where places AstraZeneca vaccine was trialed.

Putting a population (of viruses in this case) under stress is a VERY effective way to accelerate 'evolution.'  Coronavirus, like influenza, have a 'life way' which associated with rapid evolution already which is why every year brings another set of 'strains'.

It's basically Ecology 101 that a 'vaccine' for coronavirus will result in a multitude of different 'strains' happening at an accelerated rate, and they will be highly skewed toward evasion of the 'vaccine'.

But don't worry; we can all get monthly shots for a while.  That will spur development (or maybe just implementation) of a 'near real time' system where an embedded platform is re-programmed wirelessly to update the gene therapy implant.

[Nikola95]

Vaccines that are mass used for now are Pfizer, and after it are Sputnik and Sinofarm. Country like UAE, who is ranking high in vaccination, is using Sputnik and Sinofarm. They are rich, they do beleive in these vaccines so do I.

[bryant.coleman]

Vaccines that are mass used for now are Pfizer, and after it are Sputnik and Sinofarm. Country like UAE, who is ranking high in vaccination, is using Sputnik and Sinofarm. They are rich, they do beleive in these vaccines so do I.

UAE is currently using four different vaccines - Pfizer-BioNTech, Oxford-AstraZeneca, Sputnik V and Sinopharm. Now these four have varying efficacy rates, ranging from 95% for the Pfizer vaccine to 62% for AstraZeneca. They received the vaccines in time not because they are rich. They received them on time, because they were one of the first countries to sign contracts with the vaccine manufacturers.

[BADecker]

Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


Of course not. The medical and government leaders will keep on saying there is a deadly virus, as long as they can make more money off the people. Try vitamin D, or vitamin C + zinc.

[Pancho95]

Unfortunately, no. As we all can see there is new version of covid spreading more and faster than the old one. Sometimes I feel like vaccine producers are just rubbing their hands and giving us more and more vaccines for diseases that are not natural.

[Mauser]

Unfortunately, no. As we all can see there is new version of covid spreading more and faster than the old one. Sometimes I feel like vaccine producers are just rubbing their hands and giving us more and more vaccines for diseases that are not natural.

There are so many different mutations out there already, in Brazil, UK, South Africa. It will be hard for the vaccines to cover all the possible mutations from the start. My bet is that we will see new vaccines coming out at the end of this year, so that there will a need for everybody to get another vaccine. Also we still don't know the long term immunity of the vaccines yet. It could be the case that the vaccines will be recurring event every year.

[squatz1]

Unfortunately, no. As we all can see there is new version of covid spreading more and faster than the old one. Sometimes I feel like vaccine producers are just rubbing their hands and giving us more and more vaccines for diseases that are not natural.

There are so many different mutations out there already, in Brazil, UK, South Africa. It will be hard for the vaccines to cover all the possible mutations from the start. My bet is that we will see new vaccines coming out at the end of this year, so that there will a need for everybody to get another vaccine. Also we still don't know the long term immunity of the vaccines yet. It could be the case that the vaccines will be recurring event every year.

Some of the vaccines that are already out help against these mutations, not the same degree that they would the normal strain though it is good enough to not be scared. We shouldn’t write off these vaccines even if there are mutations out there. Worst case you’d require a booster vaccine sometime in the future.

Here’s a quote from CNBC about the mutations and vaccines:

Evidence so far suggests that the two Covid-19 vaccines authorized in the U.S., from Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech, appear to offer good protection against new variants.

[tvbcof]

If Pfizer is successfully sued for NEGLIGENCE then _Pfizer_ gets the nations military bases of and central bank assets from the country to pay for their losses.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/1QGYb5SN2gcK/

I could tell that there was fishy shit going on with Pfizer running around getting confidentiality agreements before negotiaions for supply of their experimental gene therapies, but even I didn't imagine this level of insult.

Now we know what Gates was smirking about in this one from back in May:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jh7T0SmEhUsQ/

[BADecker]

Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


No. It's the start of continued dependence on more and more vaccines in the future.

[virasog]

They haven't tested it against natural immunity. That is 100%  effective with no side effects.

One of the most effective ways for a vaccine to cure us from Covid, is to use it to kill off all the people. No people, nobody will have to worry about Covid any longer, right? We can see from what is happening to people who take/get the vaccine, that this is what is starting to happen.

Don't know if these vaccines could really cure the covid or protect us with this virus. Remember covid-19 was not a natural disease so you cannot be sure of the motive behind these vaccines too.

With the virus, you die in 14 days while with these vaccine what the number of days you will be able to live 

[shintaye1]

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[tvbcof]

Don't know if these vaccines could really cure the covid or protect us with this virus. Remember covid-19 was not a natural disease so you cannot be sure of the motive behind these vaccines too.

The so-called 'vaccines' for so-called 'covid' are designed to, in part, create pools of asymptomatic carriers who can give safe harbor to the virus (and other non-lethal biological weapons of the same class) and help it spread.  In this way it they are similar to the pertussis vaccine.

[Poker Player]

Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


No. It's the start of continued dependence on more and more vaccines in the future.

I believe this is the key. With vaccinations every 6 months for COVID and diseases that arise, constant profits are assured everywhere for pharmaceuticals, for low risk diseases. As if it wasn't enough how many people there already are with chronic medications that can be avoided with natural remedies.

[Tash]

Vaccines it the "real" start of the virus, as bill gates has promised it will get real attention.
https://www.planet-today.com/2021/03/dozens-of-italian-teachers-fall-ill.html#gsc.tab=0