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January 31, 2021, 06:25:47 PM
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I have tried playing dice games every once in a while and I have not yet figured out a way to make sure my probability of winning would be more. There have been posts from previous users about how cleaning the cache or even resetting the seeds make a good impact on the odds. But I was wondering if there is anything else you could use except luck ?

Is there any specific strategy that someo uses making you more likely to win ?

It's a simple game and I tried to figure out a way by placing extremely small small bets with bot but in real I don't know do you guys have any idea ? What would work? If the dice game is not entirely luck based ? Because there are people who make such assumptions therefore am curious.

Would be glad to hear your strategies.

Some of the things I found on the internet were:

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D’Alembert Strategy
This strategy is a more cautious one as it includes raising the bet each time the player loses and likewise, lowering it every time the player wins a Bitcoin dice roll. However, the chances of recouping the losses with one winning hand would depend on the number of rolls the player had before he won. This strategy also has its fair share of plus and minuses. On the plus side, it is less risky than the Martingale strategy and follows a more structured system of betting that can be implemented in the game. On the negative side, it has a low probability for the players to win back all their losses in just a single round and therefore recouping all the losses at once becomes impossible for the players most of the time.


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The Paroli Strategy
In this strategy, the player begins the game by betting an amount of his own choice. If that bet wins, he can double his bet in the next rolls until he incurs a loss. But, in case he continues to be in a winning streak and has already won big, he will have to temper his bet in that case. This strategy is safer than the above two strategies because this strategy focuses on the lucky wins. The negative sides of this strategy lie on the fact that to see the substantial returns, the players need to be on the winning streaks and winning streaks hardly last long.



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Anyone tried anything like that ?

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January 31, 2021, 06:56:42 PM
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Seems people still don't understand that there is math behind casino games.

To make things easy, just imagine: 2+2=4 It's 100% clear that the result is 4. Is there any strategy where you can make it to result as 5? No, always 2+2=4. Take two yoghurts and then two again, anyway it will be four and there no way you can make 5th one in your hands.

The samy applies to Dice games, 1% house edge is 1% house edge and it means that mathematically, on long term casino is the winner. You only depend on pure luck and you can't beat luck by using mathematical strategies, only luck vs luck.

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January 31, 2021, 07:50:54 PM
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I have tried playing dice games every once in a while and I have not yet figured out a way to make sure my probability of winning would be more.
You can't. Your probability of winning is determined by the probability of the bet you place and the house edge. Nothing else makes any difference, provided the casino is provably fair.

There have been posts from previous users about how cleaning the cache or even resetting the seeds make a good impact on the odds.
These make no difference. If someone says they did make a difference, then it's either pure coincidence or confirmation bias.

But I was wondering if there is anything else you could use except luck ?
Nope. You can use any strategy you like, bet big, bet small, bet with a high win chance, bet with a low win chance, increase after a win/loss, decrease after a win/loss, whatever you like. Over time your returns will be whatever the house edge dictates that they will be. Any short term deviation from this is pure chance.
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January 31, 2021, 08:48:16 PM
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There have been posts from previous users about how cleaning the cache or even resetting the seeds make a good impact on the odds. But I was wondering if there is anything else you could use except luck ?

There is no correlation between clearing cache and resetting the seeds to increase the probability of winning. Each of the bet follows the algorithm behind the site's house edge. The shared article does have a misleading title as those strategies aren't meant to increase the chance of winning. Instead, those are betting strategies to somehow help your bankroll management keeps up in the long-run and not just by doing a quick bet then roll.

If there's a strategy or trick to increase the chance of winning, there should be a discussion about that even before and no secret at all. Those who won decently on dice claiming they did "this" or "that" are all luck-based and it's just that they hit a good payout while doing it.

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January 31, 2021, 08:56:17 PM
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There have been posts from previous users about how cleaning the cache or even resetting the seeds make a good impact on the odds. But I was wondering if there is anything else you could use except luck ?

There is no correlation between clearing cache and resetting the seeds to increase the probability of winning. Each of the bet follows the algorithm behind the site's house edge. The shared article does have a misleading title as those strategies aren't meant to increase the chance of winning. Instead, those are betting strategies to somehow help your bankroll management keeps up in the long-run and not just by doing a quick bet then roll.

If there's a strategy or trick to increase the chance of winning, there should be a discussion about that even before and no secret at all. Those who won decently on dice claiming they did "this" or "that" are all luck-based and it's just that they hit a good payout while doing it.
When it comes  on playing dice games then i dont really mind on using up any strategies and if i do like to make my capital to be worth of or want to have some longer gameplay time then
thats the time i do consider on using up some strategy that i have known or simply make out some small multiplier with smallest possible minimal bet which means  you can cherish out your time.
Im not really that expecting something to have some advantage  against with the house because as long HE does exist then probabilities on hitting losing streaks is there.
Profitability will vary on  how lucky you are not on having that strategy which had been claimed to be working by someone but we know on how reality  works with gambling.

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January 31, 2021, 09:26:00 PM
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Well, thats it and almost explained above. Unfortunately, the dice game has no strategy you can't revise the algorithm used by the site to always in favor of you the chances of winning. The more time you spend in dice gambling the more chances of losing you have.
The strategies you mentioned above are the way how you will place a bet, not just a game that you will have a chance of winning, the fact, it is a matter of luck not on strategies that you mentioned. Just place a bet without worrying about profit and at least you hve enjoyed even a small amount that you can afford.









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January 31, 2021, 09:28:32 PM
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Hi

I have tried playing dice games every once in a while and I have not yet figured out a way to make sure my probability of winning would be more. There have been posts from previous users about how cleaning the cache or even resetting the seeds make a good impact on the odds. But I was wondering if there is anything else you could use except luck ?

There is no such thing as always winning dice strategy. If it existed, then any provably fair casino would go bankrupt very quickly.

You can try different strategies to increase your chances of winning but sooner or later the house always wins. It's just math.
Take martingale for example. In theory, every win should cover all past losses, right? But for this to be possible in practice, you should have unlimited funds at your disposal and the casino should not limit the maximum winnings. In practice, of course, this is not the case.

In addition to the three you mentioned, the Labouchere strategy is also popular, so you can try it as well. It's a bit more complex than Martingale and Fibonacci and is also referred to as the cancelation or split martingale system.
You can read about it on the wiki pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labouch%C3%A8re_system

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January 31, 2021, 09:30:17 PM
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The bottom line is that in the end the house always wins.  You can try whatever strategy works for you, but the most important part is for you to quit when you're ahead, if you're lucky enough to ever get ahead.  I suppose there are some super lucky folks out there who think their system is the winning one, but a lot of strategies work great until they don't.

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January 31, 2021, 09:40:03 PM
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The bottom line is that in the end the house always wins.  You can try whatever strategy works for you, but the most important part is for you to quit when you're ahead, if you're lucky enough to ever get ahead.  I suppose there are some super lucky folks out there who think their system is the winning one, but a lot of strategies work great until they don't.
People would only realize the reality when their method has bust out.We have seen lots  of those people who do claim that they do have working strategy and the worst,

some of them is on sale which is totally bullshit for those people believing that there is a  working strategy for longer runs.People should realize that there's no such thing that do exist.
You would really be considering for it to be working when you are in profits but the truth is that luck is always the main reason.

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January 31, 2021, 10:03:37 PM
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There’s no sure win in gambling even if you think you’ve created a good strategy because the house will always win and you have to think about it.

Gambling is to have more fun while making some money, so don’t expect too much that you’ll earn big profit not unless you’re lucky enough to experience it. I have a good history in dice game and earn some good profit, but since I keep on gambling I still loss the money on the other game, which makes me think that the house is always there watching you.

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January 31, 2021, 11:44:43 PM
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The bottom line is that in the end the house always wins.  You can try whatever strategy works for you, but the most important part is for you to quit when you're ahead, if you're lucky enough to ever get ahead.  I suppose there are some super lucky folks out there who think their system is the winning one, but a lot of strategies work great until they don't.
People would only realize the reality when their method has bust out.We have seen lots  of those people who do claim that they do have working strategy and the worst,

some of them is on sale which is totally bullshit for those people believing that there is a  working strategy for longer runs.People should realize that there's no such thing that do exist.
You would really be considering for it to be working when you are in profits but the truth is that luck is always the main reason.

and we're talking dice games here. even if you apply those known strategies, still this game is still based on luck. and with the house edge, don't think you will ever go far on this game. i dont know why people keep on finding the strategy to win on this game, where there is really not. those strategies will work for quite a while but you will be busted as well if you dont know when to stop.

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January 31, 2021, 11:56:49 PM
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There have been posts from previous users about how cleaning the cache or even resetting the seeds make a good impact on the odds. But I was wondering if there is anything else you could use except luck ?

There is no correlation between clearing cache and resetting the seeds to increase the probability of winning. Each of the bet follows the algorithm behind the site's house edge. The shared article does have a misleading title as those strategies aren't meant to increase the chance of winning. Instead, those are betting strategies to somehow help your bankroll management keeps up in the long-run and not just by doing a quick bet then roll.

If there's a strategy or trick to increase the chance of winning, there should be a discussion about that even before and no secret at all. Those who won decently on dice claiming they did "this" or "that" are all luck-based and it's just that they hit a good payout while doing it.

It's always a matter of random situations which we potentially win over dice game, because that's an automated results. Some players had their own personal perspectives about strategy in a wrong ways, but they remain consistent on that idea and won't believe from any advice of experienced gamblers. Furthermore, don't take gambling on dice seriously but rather shoot a lucky picks on every bet and let the chances come for us.
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January 31, 2021, 11:59:20 PM
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The bottom line is that in the end the house always wins.  You can try whatever strategy works for you, but the most important part is for you to quit when you're ahead, if you're lucky enough to ever get ahead.  I suppose there are some super lucky folks out there who think their system is the winning one, but a lot of strategies work great until they don't.
People would only realize the reality when their method has bust out.We have seen lots  of those people who do claim that they do have working strategy and the worst,

some of them is on sale which is totally bullshit for those people believing that there is a  working strategy for longer runs.People should realize that there's no such thing that do exist.
You would really be considering for it to be working when you are in profits but the truth is that luck is always the main reason.

and we're talking dice games here. even if you apply those known strategies, still this game is still based on luck. and with the house edge, don't think you will ever go far on this game. i dont know why people keep on finding the strategy to win on this game, where there is really not. those strategies will work for quite a while but you will be busted as well if you dont know when to stop.
When everytime someone do make out some post about working strategy then i do simply ignore those but surprisingly there are people whom do still believe about this impossible thing.
Just let them discover the truth about gambling specially with Dice. People can really claim that the strategy is working when they do make money but if they do lost then they would
just simply say neither the site is scam/unfair or saying that the strategy that they do get from someone didnt work and then the whole story would continue.
Its not surprising to see these things and its better to ignore those and make use on your own strategy that will really entertain you.

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February 01, 2021, 12:09:26 AM
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No such strategies exists to win on dice specially long term as the house edge will catch up on you.

Short term or at least x amount of rolls might give you a good profits + with some element of luck. But if you try to push it yourself, sooner or later the house edge will catch up on you. Those strategy you mention might will work initially though. If that is the case then you should exit with a profit.

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Any game reliant on luck with the absence of skill would solely be reliant on luck, there's no shortcut, guide, or secret to actually winning in one. The only strategy one can actually employ is to spend money strategically so that you won't end up at much of a loss, provided some circumstances ofc. An example is martingale, theoretically, you can always profit off of it as long as your bankroll has enough funds to wait for you to actually win. Those are basically the examples of what you've said, and they don't in no way affect the chances of you winning. The only way for you to actually affect it is to hack into the casino, and change the chances of you winning, though good luck with that.

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There are some strategies that might be better than others. They don't really increase your chances but keep you alive longer. It also depends on the size of your bankroll. Having a larger balance will give you a bigger margin of error because you are able to make up for your losses by increasing your wager. Of course this also opens up the possibility of suffering huge losses also.

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February 01, 2021, 01:36:22 AM
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i have tried both strategy shared in the op . the D’Alembert Strategy sounds verry simillar to martingale . this strategy is less risky than The Paroli Strategy because you can start with small bet and you can always expect that you can hit your target in the long run or the more you roll but in paroli ,

what if you started with max bet ? and what if you loose the first roll or you can win the first roll , double it and loose it all . you have nothing left .
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February 01, 2021, 01:42:29 AM
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Even if that strategy can work you and keep you alive longer, that will only make you suffer because of losing money many times. The losses of the money will vary depending on the money you use to gamble. In a long time, the house will get your money, but you will not have a big chance to win small or big money. If you want to save your money and not lose much money, you need to set your time to stay at that gambling place and get out of that place as soon as possible.

Using strategy can work temporarily because winning the dice game will need luck, which we don't know when the luck will come. So be careful when you play dice games and better know when you must stop the game.
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February 01, 2021, 02:05:29 AM
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I have tried numerous strategies on dice. In the end, my wallet is drained. Was it worth it? Yes! Dice is made for fun and part of that fun is experimenting and using different strategies, not just the ones which are very popular and mainstream. Creating and then executing a strategy is fun. One is going to make your funds last longer than the other, although in the end your funds will really be fully consumed. But it's all about the fun. Don't think of creating money by playing dice.

Don't try to think that you could beat the design. That's basically countering logic. Well, it's possible for five loaves and two fish to sufficiently feed 5,000 people but that's called miracle. Wink

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February 01, 2021, 02:18:31 AM
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Well, thats it and almost explained above. Unfortunately, the dice game has no strategy you can't revise the algorithm used by the site to always in favor of you the chances of winning. The more time you spend in dice gambling the more chances of losing you have.
The strategies you mentioned above are the way how you will place a bet, not just a game that you will have a chance of winning, the fact, it is a matter of luck not on strategies that you mentioned. Just place a bet without worrying about profit and at least you hve enjoyed even a small amount that you can afford.
If I may be blunt, online dice games is sort of fixed so putting some strategy doesn't really work. I do agree with playing more means that you will lose more money, and the strategy of placing bets is just a creative way of systematically losing your money, there might be some wins sprinkled here and there but the bottom line is in the long run losing money is the trend, and to be fair, games of chance do not really need any strategy, just throw the dice and as the quote above says, enjoy.

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