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February 14, 2021, 08:17:13 PM
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The bottom line is that in the end the house always wins. 
Absolutely current I got involve is dice lately and as a beginner I went 4 into 20 places or when is hit, at first I won but as the game went on I just twice and the house edge turn against me.
Not sure what you mean by went 4 into 20 places but I agree that house is the real winner specially in the games where the house edge is higher. I actually think dice has the lowest house edge like on bitsler dice has 1% house edge and other games have higher house edge. Similarly stake has 1% house edge on dice but the 3rd party slots have up to 7-8% house edge which is criminal in my opinion because its like 7-8% expected loss of wager on each bet.

There are guys who are in profit from casino but that might be because they got extremely lucky some day and stopped betting or lowered amounts to avoid loss. And all the talk about seeds and luck, the seeds you rotate or change does not influence your winning or losing at all.

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February 14, 2021, 09:31:37 PM
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I am not so sure about the intuition part of your strategy since it is hard to quantify, but the rest of your strategy I like a lot. Especially the part about quitting when ahead. It took me a while to figure this one out myself, because I tend to play until I go broke for the day. I usually set my self a fixed limited for the maximum amount I am willing to lose on a day or in a week and then I just try to win as much as possible. In the end it is much better to just stop after a decent win and take the profit for the next day.
Intuition is like suppose you are betting on 1.5 odds and you are betting small amount like 100 satoshi or maybe 10 satoshi now that the bitcoin is going massive. Now once you have lose like 8 out of the last 10 bets or something like that not necessarily a string of losses but like losing 8 out of 10 bets mean the chances are good next bet might win and you can bet 1k satoshi next bet which might win. I have done this myself but in sports where I would lose like 3-4 UFC fights and then go big on the main card and it usually works for me although at times it doesn't and the night gets ruined.

Talking of dice games you can actually do that where you lose some bets and make one big odd one in between and then get back to small bets. Some people will say its not worth it because each bet has same chances regardless of the previous results but law of averages comes into play at some point.

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February 15, 2021, 08:04:51 PM
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One of the strategy I am making use to escape from losses is martingale-on-multiple-houses. If your gambling house allows multiple accounts then you may try this at one house but with multiple accounts. (I remember yolodice allows us to have multiple accounts but I did not try there as there are enough trusted houses to play with my strategy).
Almost all casinos allow multiple accounts as long as they know you are not abusing their VIP program or some kind of bonuses. I believe no one would stop a player from making multiple accounts just because they want to martingale using multiple accounts. In fact, now vault system is introduced but before that players used to have 2 accounts - one for playing, other like a bank where they would send their winnings and withdraw when needed.

Let me explain what I am doing with my strategy. When you go doubling your base-bet after a loss, you need to play on different house. But the hard requirement for this strategy is, you must have multiple accounts with balances on more than 5 gambling houses. Finally you need to calculate your profits/losses across all houses; I tried with 1000 dogecoin on each of house and with based bet at 0.001 doge. When you withdraw from all the houses into one wallet you can really see your profits at the end of the day.
Due respect to your thoughts but this is just an illusion because each time you make a bet your chances of winning and losing are 49.5% (expecting you are betting on 2x multiplier and house edge is standard)

Playing on multiple accounts can also be done via different casinos I think like you pick 5 casinos and play multiple bets on each after loss but I don't think anything is gonna change.

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February 15, 2021, 08:15:20 PM
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The bottom line is that in the end the house always wins. 
Absolutely current I got involve is dice lately and as a beginner I went 4 into 20 places or when is hit, at first I won but as the game went on I just twice and the house edge turn against me.
Most of us are with this slogan "the house will always win" but failed to cautioned ourselves whenever we are at the winning point, you won in some of your games and then you sat down and continued the journey until your funds was all milked out, so, who do we blame?, you or the house?. Because the house will win, i learned to win and run.

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February 15, 2021, 08:30:11 PM
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The bottom line is that in the end the house always wins. 
Absolutely current I got involve is dice lately and as a beginner I went 4 into 20 places or when is hit, at first I won but as the game went on I just twice and the house edge turn against me.
Most of us are with this slogan "the house will always win" but failed to cautioned ourselves whenever we are at the winning point, you won in some of your games and then you sat down and continued the journey until your funds was all milked out, so, who do we blame?, you or the house?. Because the house will win, i learned to win and run.

Best thing to do is to quit while you still got something good in your wallet. It's the common mistake by most gamblers, trying to suck more from the house instead of quitting while they are still in positive.

By continuing you are just giving the house a big opportunities to win against you, if most of the gamblers only realize that it's better to win some than to lose everything, they might be getting decent instead of continuing and finding yourself being busted and regret the time that you almost got good amount of winning money.

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February 15, 2021, 10:53:50 PM
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I have tried playing dice games every once in a while and I have not yet figured out a way to make sure my probability of winning would be more. There have been posts from previous users about how cleaning the cache or even resetting the seeds make a good impact on the odds. But I was wondering if there is anything else you could use except luck ?

Is there any specific strategy that someo uses making you more likely to win ?

It's a simple game and I tried to figure out a way by placing extremely small small bets with bot but in real I don't know do you guys have any idea ? What would work? If the dice game is not entirely luck based ? Because there are people who make such assumptions therefore am curious.

Would be glad to hear your strategies.
Unfortunately all of those tricks that you have ever heard about to improve your chances to win in the game of dice simply do not work, it has been known for a very long time that no betting pattern changes the probability and the expected value that you should get out of each bet, and as long as your expected value is negative then over the long term you're going to lose money, I know that is something that you probably do not want to hear but it is just the reality, I love gambling but I accept the fact that there are only a handful of games in which you have any kind of chance to beat the house and dice is not one of them.
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I am a die-hard martingale strategy always do this with a fair share of success, but I do it manually with variation when I have 30 rolls I usually refresh or reset the game I have success doing this but it doesn't mean that it's a perfect strategy there's a time that bad luck sets in where I can have 20 or more rolls and that wiped out all that I have, it's still a game of luck but I am more entertained doing this, doing things manually will give you more excitement.

Perhaps, that can help you win, but you need to remember that that strategy will not always work. You can modify the strategy or use 10 rolls and refresh or reset the game and see if that can work too for you. I don't try to refresh the game like you because I think I can stay with using that, although I don't roll more than 30 rolls every time I gamble. I realize that the dice game will be the game that always needs luck, so I don't have to try hard to play the game and stop if I think that is enough for me.
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February 16, 2021, 01:04:44 PM
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I am a die-hard martingale strategy always do this with a fair share of success, but I do it manually with variation when I have 30 rolls I usually refresh or reset the game I have success doing this but it doesn't mean that it's a perfect strategy there's a time that bad luck sets in where I can have 20 or more rolls and that wiped out all that I have, it's still a game of luck but I am more entertained doing this, doing things manually will give you more excitement.
Then that means you're lucky for doing that strategy and I've not heard a lot from people who had shared the same success as you. Personally, I can't find myself with that strategy and that surprises me someone shares their story of success through that strategy.

And with that disappointment and result, I've never tried doing it again and it's better for me to play manually without any strategy if it's luck games.

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February 16, 2021, 02:06:45 PM
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I agree with that. Yes, but a gambler can go all-in anytime because they can think that the next round will be their luck, so they bet with all-in they have,

This happens because most gamblers are addicts. Their brains lost its touch with reality and they need professional help. Luckily for the casinos they are the best customers.  Cheesy
Yes, we must not become addicts like them because we already know the consequences if we addict gambling. If we can stay away or at least, we can prevent becoming addicted to gambling, we can play gambling anytime we want, and we can prevent the big loss. In this part, the casino will take the biggest profit from the gamblers who can not manage their money.

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February 16, 2021, 02:39:01 PM
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I agree with that. Yes, but a gambler can go all-in anytime because they can think that the next round will be their luck, so they bet with all-in they have,

This happens because most gamblers are addicts. Their brains lost its touch with reality and they need professional help. Luckily for the casinos they are the best customers.  Cheesy
Yes, we must not become addicts like them because we already know the consequences if we addict gambling. If we can stay away or at least, we can prevent becoming addicted to gambling, we can play gambling anytime we want, and we can prevent the big loss. In this part, the casino will take the biggest profit from the gamblers who can not manage their money.

It is true that gambling is one of the best way to make profit nowadays. Eventhough the risk is high in gambling, many people still believe that it will be more faster to earn in gambling rather than in other methods. Dice game is one of the easiest and best game in gambling. Personally, I've been experience to play it. And as fas as I am concern, it is rrue that it is addicting more over if you always get won on it. You intended to continue playing because you believe that you will won continuously but this greedy attitude will also be your downside and reason why you will get lost on the other hand. It is not good to be addicted in tha game, it is normal to experience it but of course, you must know how to handle it and how to avoid it as much as possible.
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February 17, 2021, 01:21:40 AM
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It is true that gambling is one of the best way to make profit nowadays. 
I dunno what's wrong with me but for me what you said doesn't make sense. Why did you say that gambling is one of the best way to make a profit. For several months I'm active as a gambling player and play dice. I've never won more than 20% of all my bets. And the proportion of my winnings is only 1: 500 times the stake. Once I bet All in and I ended up losing all my money. And it really hurts man. If you remember that moment you feel very stupid. Please those who are pro at gambling can teach me to continue to profit.
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February 17, 2021, 09:13:41 AM
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It is true that gambling is one of the best way to make profit nowadays. Eventhough the risk is high in gambling, many people still believe that it will be more faster to earn in gambling rather than in other methods. Dice game is one of the easiest and best game in gambling. Personally, I've been experience to play it. And as fas as I am concern, it is rrue that it is addicting more over if you always get won on it. You intended to continue playing because you believe that you will won continuously but this greedy attitude will also be your downside and reason why you will get lost on the other hand. It is not good to be addicted in tha game, it is normal to experience it but of course, you must know how to handle it and how to avoid it as much as possible.
If those people can think about the tempting of playing a dice game, he will not use dice game to gamble instead to search the other game which is not based on the luck. But many people can not leave the dice game because that game is very attractive to the gamblers and make them stay for a long time to playing. It can make them addicting sooner or later, and if they do not realize it, they will get deeper into that game without knowing when to leave the game. Besides that, greediness will attract gamblers to play more and more, and that can make them use more money even if they already lose before.

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February 17, 2021, 10:38:15 AM
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I am a die-hard martingale strategy always do this with a fair share of success, but I do it manually with variation when I have 30 rolls I usually refresh or reset the game I have success doing this but it doesn't mean that it's a perfect strategy there's a time that bad luck sets in where I can have 20 or more rolls and that wiped out all that I have, it's still a game of luck but I am more entertained doing this, doing things manually will give you more excitement.

More on luck indeed, martingale might give some profits if you are well practiced, if you can quit before losing streak hits up. There are many gamblers who suffered from using this system.

Most cases, those who plan ahead got excited with winning streak and forget about quitting.
Thinking that it will continue providing green sign and keeps your bankroll into positive side.

Face it, greed keeps you losing your money. Taking care of this first will allow you to take some good advantages.

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I have tried playing dice games every once in a while and I have not yet figured out a way to make sure my probability of winning would be more.
You can't. Your probability of winning is determined by the probability of the bet you place and the house edge. Nothing else makes any difference, provided the casino is provably fair.

Indeed in some sites especially brand new one's has a lot bigger probability in winning than does house edge that has been operating for years.
In the end they can adjust the difficulty of games, making it a lot harder for a player to win that is why i prefer sports gambling. All you need to do is analyze the information of the players and sports.

Sports betting is totally different than the dice game. Dice is just on luck as always playing with high multiplier with 1000's rolls still do no twin and some just win in few hundreds only. So it’s all the luck which helps you win. While sports betting is more the knowledge of team/player you have you have better chances of making it. Though some close matches require luck on your side for the match to be in your favour.

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February 17, 2021, 01:46:22 PM
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I have tried playing dice games every once in a while and I have not yet figured out a way to make sure my probability of winning would be more.
You can't. Your probability of winning is determined by the probability of the bet you place and the house edge. Nothing else makes any difference, provided the casino is provably fair.

Indeed in some sites especially brand new one's has a lot bigger probability in winning than does house edge that has been operating for years.
In the end they can adjust the difficulty of games, making it a lot harder for a player to win that is why i prefer sports gambling. All you need to do is analyze the information of the players and sports.

Sports betting is totally different than the dice game. Dice is just on luck as always playing with high multiplier with 1000's rolls still do no twin and some just win in few hundreds only. So it’s all the luck which helps you win. While sports betting is more the knowledge of team/player you have you have better chances of making it. Though some close matches require luck on your side for the match to be in your favour.

Actually dice game requires a knowledge too even though it's just a number just to predict the algorithm of higher and lower of the multiplier I think there is some solution regarding with this still requires a statistic about the percentage of the out but for me, it's easier to play in sports betting than dice because in sports you have a concrete analysis and statistics in dice you have a lot of patterns need to identify just to show up the possibility. I prefer too with sports gambling with e-sports gambling because I love playing online games.

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February 17, 2021, 02:29:56 PM
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Actually dice game requires a knowledge too even though it's just a number just to predict the algorithm of higher and lower of the multiplier I think there is some solution regarding with this still requires a statistic about the percentage of the out but for me, it's easier to play in sports betting than dice because in sports you have a concrete analysis and statistics in dice you have a lot of patterns need to identify just to show up the possibility. I prefer too with sports gambling with e-sports gambling because I love playing online games.


Dice games definitely need some knowledge about number theory and how to play around with high and low multipliers. Sure the game is pretty intuitive, I would say that Dice is among the easiest in a casino we can play. Which is also what makes it so attractive for most new players. Everybody can make a his own strategy fairly quickly. But one we invest more time to learn games and strategies there might be more suitable games for us.
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February 17, 2021, 02:47:51 PM
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Actually dice game requires a knowledge too even though it's just a number just to predict the algorithm of higher and lower of the multiplier I think there is some solution regarding with this still requires a statistic about the percentage of the out but for me, it's easier to play in sports betting than dice because in sports you have a concrete analysis and statistics in dice you have a lot of patterns need to identify just to show up the possibility. I prefer too with sports gambling with e-sports gambling because I love playing online games.
Indeed it does.
I keep on changing my seeds whenever I feel like what I am using doesn't give me any wins or you could tell from a long run that the percentage of winning is too low.
I play in sports betting too but it differs the joy it gives you with dice.
Not too much work with deep analysis, it's just simple but yet it gives pleasure and pressure too.  Grin
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February 17, 2021, 06:46:56 PM
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I am a die-hard martingale strategy always do this with a fair share of success, but I do it manually with variation when I have 30 rolls I usually refresh or reset the game I have success doing this but it doesn't mean that it's a perfect strategy there's a time that bad luck sets in where I can have 20 or more rolls and that wiped out all that I have, it's still a game of luck but I am more entertained doing this, doing things manually will give you more excitement.
That's a good idea and must jeep your gambling more interesting because I cannot relate what kind of fun it is to put numbers into autobet and watch your money go Grin so yeah at least manually doing it means there is something new to it.

I mostly bet on sports so I am not sure what strategy I would use but when I am wagering for some kind of contest or raffle then I usually go with 1.1x and 10x on lose and reset on win.

I had been playing dice games a lot in past few months trying out different strategies every now and then. To be honest, luck plays a major role most of the times.
Surprised someone saying luck plays a major role because as far as logic goes, luck plays the "only" role if you are trying to win against the house who has the bigger bankroll and an edge against the players.

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February 18, 2021, 04:39:38 PM
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I had been playing dice games a lot in past few months trying out different strategies every now and then. To be honest, luck plays a major role most of the times.
Surprised someone saying luck plays a major role because as far as logic goes, luck plays the "only" role if you are trying to win against the house who has the bigger bankroll and an edge against the players.

Yes because I don't think there is certainty for anything. Luck does play a major role in gambling and we need it along with a strategy that works well for us.
If we have a strategy which works frequently well then it is a contribution to our win. If the strategy is not right then we tend to lose more.
So in my perspective we need both strategy and luck to get the results in our favor.

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I had been playing dice games a lot in past few months trying out different strategies every now and then. To be honest, luck plays a major role most of the times.
Surprised someone saying luck plays a major role because as far as logic goes, luck plays the "only" role if you are trying to win against the house who has the bigger bankroll and an edge against the players.

Yes because I don't think there is certainty for anything. Luck does play a major role in gambling and we need it along with a strategy that works well for us.
If we have a strategy which works frequently well then it is a contribution to our win. If the strategy is not right then we tend to lose more.
So in my perspective we need both strategy and luck to get the results in our favor.
We need to arrange so that the main role can be profitable but in gambling it can be said that the whole thing is luck, but if we use strategy it is to maximize our profits while playing dice, and still we have to be able to control what if losses occur sometimes in gambling like to forget about the reserve fund that runs out is that everyone always has a principle, but I am more concerned with the strategy that is applied and tricking how luck is always on my side.

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