Discussion! Don't BUY FAKE! "wallet.dat" files with lost passwords.

[CashbackLover]

Who are those stupid enough to put their money on something they never worked for? You don't have to warn such people because they have a greedy mindset that's why they engage into such act, you are simply trying to buy 100,000$ with 100$, such people deserves anything that happens to them

[Antoni4EVA1984]

Who are those stupid enough to put their money on something they never worked for? You don't have to warn such people because they have a greedy mindset that's why they engage into such act, you are simply trying to buy 100,000$ with 100$, such people deserves anything that happens to them

I disagree with you.

[Antoni4EVA1984]

Just updating the thread to let people know I am testing all the ones I sorted as good hash codes in Bitcoin Core Wallet now, so far 6 have been tested with 3 showing some dodgy stuff with timestamps and transaction details missing & 3 that seem legit.

Will update with images here soon, I have managed to get 35 wallets with unique hash codes out of about 85 wallets I held, a lot of them was either the exact same hash code or the end of the hash code was matching, some was empty wallets.

Currently testing them one at a time in Bitcoin Core for obscurities. I have 29 more wallets to check with unique hash codes,  I will update the thread with it all once I have compiled a full list of new dodgy ones.  

 

[ABCbits]

Honestly i wouldn't bother with wallet.dat (whether it's sold or free) because almost all of them are fake wallet.dat or require very high cost to even attempt brute-force it.
OP, it would be great if you link this discussion thread on first page, Fake walle.dat can trick bitcoin core client?

Who are those stupid enough to put their money on something they never worked for? You don't have to warn such people because they have a greedy mindset that's why they engage into such act, you are simply trying to buy 100,000$ with 100$, such people deserves anything that happens to them

So you would rather see scammer (who sell fake wallet.dat) become rich?

[roguepacket]

If anybody wants these wallet packs for FREE then ask me, you can have them. I won't charge you for them.

I would really like to have a go as well - sounds like a fun way to get my nephew into a little bit of hacking. rogue_ip_packet@hotmail.com
Appreciated!!

[zasad@]

I'm getting really tired of the forum being flooded by idiots attempting to crack wallets.

AFAICT whats going on right now is that scammers are selling fake wallets which are just encrypted wallets with other people's addresses listed in them for people to crack if only they can guess the password, but they don't actually contain the private keys so cracking the password would accomplish nothing (and the password is probably just some huge random string so it can never be cracked in any case).  If a fake wallet is well constructed it is impossible to distinguish it from a real encrypted wallet.

This isn't new, but at least one of them has put up a highly polished website now.  They're also going around and claiming that whenever coins were moved that they connected to these wallets (which happens from time to time because they're someone elses coins) that this was a successful hack by one of their customers.

I don't really have a problem with the meta-scammers ripping people off who are stupid enough to pay for other people's wallets to crack--  back when wallet encryption was new I, myself, put up a bunch of fake wallets on edonkey to look like they were accidentally shared so that malicious pieces of shit would waste their time on impossible to crack wallets.  Presumably charging for them makes the crooks all the more convinced that they are real ... but unfortunately this is creating a constant stream of querulous idiots making uninteresting posts, because the people ignorant enough to fall for this stuff also don't actually have anything interesting to say about wallet security.

Read what Gavin Maxwell, the Bitcoin developer, writes about it.
It makes no sense to write wallets and the amount of bitcoins on them, because scammers will create new wallets every time to deceive newbies.
It will take a huge amount of time to try to get a password by brute-force, and there will be no coins in the wallet.
Buy these wallets just for pranking your friends.

[GPUGoldmine]

if some of the Wallets that doesn't look like Scam are real and are old, the password can't be extreme complex, because the Bitcoin price wasn't high at that time... so why use a strong password?
So.... any Wallet hash, that can't be hacked, in a "normal" amount of time, with a good Wordlist + a little rule are possible Fake. 
Problem is that that this hash is extreme slow...
All good looking ones i have already run with some of my rules and wortlists that have a high success rate. i still have some attacks left i wanna try....
None has a PW <= 8   
typical password length should be 12 to 16. from that time...
more hashpower than a month for a RTX3090 i will not spend on this interesting experiment.

One has the Password 11111111111 and surprise, empty

Then i have Success i will send greetings from my new home in Hawaii 

[Kostyaf]

I compared the timestamps on my wallet with blockchain.com, here is the result
My wallet is real.

https://i.imgur.com/RKd07NH.jpg

[Antoni4EVA1984]

I compared the timestamps on my wallet with blockchain.com, here is the result
My wallet is real.

Yeah it might be something going on with your time zone on your PC to your browser or the block explorer you're using (Some Differ With Timezones) someone reported to me that the 198 BTC was doing the same in the wallet with the time stamps against the blockchain but it seemed to be okay for me, but on the transaction details there is information missing so it is dodgy the 198BTC wallet. Will update thread soon.

[Antoni4EVA1984]

Honestly i wouldn't bother with wallet.dat (whether it's sold or free) because almost all of them are fake wallet.dat or require very high cost to even attempt brute-force it.
OP, it would be great if you link this discussion thread on first page, Fake walle.dat can trick bitcoin core client?

Who are those stupid enough to put their money on something they never worked for? You don't have to warn such people because they have a greedy mindset that's why they engage into such act, you are simply trying to buy 100,000$ with 100$, such people deserves anything that happens to them

So you would rather see scammer (who sell fake wallet.dat) become rich?

Yeah I also think that most of them are fake too if I am honest, I am just bored being in the house so thought I might as well post to show obvious faults in many of these wallets in the hopes of waking some people up not to buy them.

Thanks for your input and will be sure to post the link to direct newbies to the thread.

[Antoni4EVA1984]

if some of the Wallets that doesn't look like Scam are real and are old, the password can't be extreme complex, because the Bitcoin price wasn't high at that time... so why use a strong password?
So.... any Wallet hash, that can't be hacked, in a "normal" amount of time, with a good Wordlist + a little rule are possible Fake.  
Problem is that that this hash is extreme slow...
All good looking ones i have already run with some of my rules and wortlists that have a high success rate. i still have some attacks left i wanna try....
None has a PW <= 8  
typical password length should be 12 to 16. from that time...
more hashpower than a month for a RTX3090 i will not spend on this interesting experiment.

One has the Password 11111111111 and surprise, empty

Then i have Success i will send greetings from my new home in Hawaii  

Thanks for your input buddy, I did see your post about this with the hashcodes on the other thread HERE that is trading wallets for new ones. I posted your input on the bottom of the original post

Which rules do you use mind me asking or have you made a custom rule?

[NotATether]

~snip
Read what Gavin Greg Maxwell, the Bitcoin developer, writes about it.

Just a small correction. you must've got him mixed up with Gavin Andresen, a Bitcoin OG who became he maintainer after satoshi left.

[Antoni4EVA1984]

Didn't realize i misphrase which change the meaning, what i mean is linking the thread (Fake walle.dat can trick bitcoin core client?) on this/your own thread.

Gotcha 

[Spawnx]

Antoni please check Your Inbox 

[Antoni4EVA1984]

Antoni please check Your Inbox 

The 4000BTC wallet.dat is fake buddy I have posted the information on the original post

[Spawnx]

Did You run 'getwalletinfo' in the console ?

[Antoni4EVA1984]

Did You run 'getwalletinfo' in the console ?

Indeed I did, what information are you referring too that you have on it? I am pretty sure this one is fake. Be good for the guy from allprivate keys to show everyone the hash of each wallet he has on his site to cross reference them.

[Spawnx]

Simply i dont think that the Iter count that bitcoin2john gives is a value probability to conclude that the wallet could be fake, the iteration count is simply the number of how many times the password was hashed.

I have the 11.56 BTC wallet and it gives the same iter count from bitcoin2john that You posted, and the wallet was not fake becouse it was opened.

Just want to use different tools on this wallet but i dont have it.

[Antoni4EVA1984]

Simply i dont think that the Iter count that bitcoin2john gives is a value probability to conclude that the wallet could be fake, the iteration count is simply the number of how many times the password was hashed.

I have the 11.56 BTC wallet and it gives the same iter count from bitcoin2john that You posted, and the wallet was not fake becouse it was opened.

Just want to use different tools on this wallet but I don't have it.

There is nothing wrong with bitcoin2john, did it occur to you that the wallet is a fake one and the actual real person of the wallet just moved out the tokens? only because the sites that sell it say it is a success story does not mean they're telling you the truth. Have they provided the password with the success story? or just that funds have been moved from it? Do you also believe that the information of passwords are true too? lol I think not.

It is VERY unlikely that multiple wallets contain the same iteration. It could be possible but VERY unlikely.

You can also check out this thread here For more information Fake wallet.dat can trick bitcoin core client?

You can inspect the data of a wallet.dat file using BDB 4.6's db_dump tool

[Spawnx]

Not saying that they are real , most of them are fake indeed, have also alot of them and doing research on how to inspect them quickly , but the iteration could be also related to the version of the core wallet , is just a SHA-512 count