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February 16, 2021, 02:09:09 AM
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But money can not buy happiness.
Money can not buy healthy.
Money can not buy our time.
We work to buy something that we need to survive, and without money, we can still live and get a payment which can change for some foods.
But yes, without money, we will hard to survive. But we do not have to try hard to earn money and we do not have to force ourselves to break our limit because we need to be healthy.
It is better to be sad on a luxurious, secure and sustainable house than be happy in a derelict apartment, stressing on what to do to get money to eat tomorrow. You can hire dietician and fitness instructor to look out for your heath and if you have the money, all the work which made you lost busy will be payed off with your whole life secured. We have to stop in believing this bullcrap that money will not be the answer to happiness, you can say that to a lot of people starving and doing crimes to get by and they will laugh at you because as long as the people in power wants money as a form of daily survival then it won't change, money will make people happy, you just have to know who gets it.
It is better to feel grateful in a simple house without having much stress.
If we can eat this day, that is something that we must grateful for, and tomorrow, we can try to make money from something we can.
We don't need to hire dieticians and fitness instructors to look out for your health because our body doesn't need that.
As long as we can eat, we can live healthier, and we do not think much about life and enjoy our life, we will not think that we must chase the money.
The important thing is not about the money, but it's about how we can be grateful for what we have right now.
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February 16, 2021, 02:48:04 AM
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If we live for money, I think it is wrong because money is not everything even though everything requires money.
If in investing, let money work and develop and we only control it, and the most important thing in life is to be able to meet the needs of life properly and survive, and all of that we can still get without money by doing services or something else.
and your analogy is like living only for the money and money you are looking for in this world without thinking about the afterlife because if you die your money will not go along.
Being a good person is enough so that other people can be good with us, live happily and that sufficiency will be more beautiful, and work for money because that is the salary and the right to get it.

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February 16, 2021, 06:33:57 AM
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Wrong analogy, us investors and cryptocurrency traders are not working for money. It's the other way around, money is working for us. Sure we may still have to look at our tradings and all now and then, but come to think of it, we can do this whenever we feel like, and it almost always guarantees profits, provided that you have sound judgement and a wide knowledge of the game. So it's not us working for the money. It's money working for us.

Sometimes your analogy works but not for cryptocurrency.

We invested our money to the market because we know that it will work on itself and will make its price grow as time passes by.

This is only applicable when we trade and hold, but if we gamble our money then that's the time where your analogy will be suitable. But in a passive investment such as holding, then we are the boss and we wait for the money to grow itself in the market before we make decisions. But also in the end, we are the one will make our investment much more profitable when we want.

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February 16, 2021, 07:39:02 AM
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~snip
It is better to feel grateful in a simple house without having much stress.
If we can eat this day, that is something that we must grateful for, and tomorrow, we can try to make money from something we can.
We don't need to hire dieticians and fitness instructors to look out for your health because our body doesn't need that.
As long as we can eat, we can live healthier, and we do not think much about life and enjoy our life, we will not think that we must chase the money.
The important thing is not about the money, but it's about how we can be grateful for what we have right now.
Health emergency is a thing you know and if you do not have the money to spend on it then stress will be your problem. Not everything you eat will make you healthier, and also give me a research that says that our body doesn't need a healthy diet and proper exercise because that is what dieticians and fitness instructors do, if there is a paper about that then I will believe you. Being grateful is a matter of perspective, if you are living under the bridge and you don't know where to get the money to eat for the next day then I think that it is a laughable thing to call it grateful for what we have right now.
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February 16, 2021, 03:31:22 PM
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If you really want to become wealthy then let money works for you and that’s the strategy of many rich people because they know how sacrifice at first and when they succeed, they can just relax while the money is making them more rich. We should not think money as superior above all, we have to think Money on a different way and don’t let greed stop your from being rich.
"Let money work for you" is easier said because to let money work for you starts with the assumption that you have money already. I agree that smart and richest people today are those who know how to earn more money with what they have and that's through smart investments.

People often think that money is everything but if for once we sit back and relax, we would understand that while money is important it is not the only thing. Imagine the corona virus situation, no matter how rich or poor you are but you can still get affected and since there was no defined medication you might suffer. So while money is important, what's more important is mental and physical health along with how well you cope with the society and what you do in life.

If you think of life as a race then remember the one running fastest will be the one who meets the end of the race faster which ultimately is death.

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February 16, 2021, 11:23:54 PM
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It all comes in a sense that we all need money that is why we are working to have it to sustain all of our daily needs that can just be attainable once you purchase money. Most of the things that are basically needed by people to survive daily life situation can be bought by money and it seems like nothing is being achieve in our modern times if you do not have money. Nothing is free already for we all do need money wherever we go. The point of the OP seems to be right that our boss and employer is money for we are doing our best and everything for the sake of having it because we certainly do need it.

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February 17, 2021, 02:54:02 AM
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So what you mean is we can be slave of money? But I think that's just for people who don't have another thing that important except money. And that's not me, it's almost impossible for someone to prevent money devaluation because there are too many factors that influences the value of money. In my opinion, as human we should manage our wealth so it can grow. When the money value is decrease then investment is the best decision because investment in business will make the number of product that can be produce increase so the competition level will be up and then the money value will be more stable and we as investor can grow our wealth. But if we too lazy then just buy gold or bitcoin and leave it then our wealth will be safe. For me money is not my boss but just like employee or cattle which I must manage so it can give benefits for me.

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February 17, 2021, 05:43:43 AM
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~snip
It is better to feel grateful in a simple house without having much stress.
If we can eat this day, that is something that we must grateful for, and tomorrow, we can try to make money from something we can.
We don't need to hire dieticians and fitness instructors to look out for your health because our body doesn't need that.
As long as we can eat, we can live healthier, and we do not think much about life and enjoy our life, we will not think that we must chase the money.
The important thing is not about the money, but it's about how we can be grateful for what we have right now.
Health emergency is a thing you know and if you do not have the money to spend on it then stress will be your problem. Not everything you eat will make you healthier, and also give me a research that says that our body doesn't need a healthy diet and proper exercise because that is what dieticians and fitness instructors do, if there is a paper about that then I will believe you. Being grateful is a matter of perspective, if you are living under the bridge and you don't know where to get the money to eat for the next day then I think that it is a laughable thing to call it grateful for what we have right now.
I would say that being grateful for our conditions will be important because we can prevent thinking negatively.
Humans need to eat, and I am sure that we can do something to have food without having a crime.
Even if you live under the bridge, you will not think about stress or another thing because your primary needs are already filled when you can eat.
Well, maybe that sounds strange or ridiculous for some people, but being grateful will make us feel enough.
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February 17, 2021, 08:11:03 AM
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If a person could grow their own food, generate their own electricity, have their own transportation and living accommodations and have a means of acquiring things they need through barter or exchange.
Well yeah and barter system was replaced by money because it made things easy, you needed to find whom you can sell your items in exchange of the right items you need. Now with money you just get money for the same and then buy the right items with that money.

They wouldn't need to rely on money, employers or governments for survival. Perhaps that is one prospective model for a future society we can focus upon making a reality.
I like it but its a passive approach and a step backwards. And the best part of our economy is that we are not forced to work under a particular employer or boss and you can always do your own business if you feel like you don't want to work under others.

While reading the OP I felt like he is obsessed with money and I don't know why people call their employer as boss because see they require your service and you work for them, as simple as that and both are dependent on each other and none is doing favors to the other.

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February 18, 2021, 10:05:03 AM
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If a person could grow their own food, generate their own electricity, have their own transportation and living accommodations and have a means of acquiring things they need through barter or exchange.

They wouldn't need to rely on money, employers or governments for survival. Perhaps that is one prospective model for a future society we can focus upon making a reality.

It would certainly ease the number of jobs lost to automation. And reduce corruption and abuse associated with dependancy upon corporations and governments for survival.
Let's be honest how many people in the world can do that, and how much can you get with that? Sure let's say you grown your own crops, but what if you want to eat a food that you didn't grow? Sure you could raise cattles and chickens and eat that if you want, but if you fail to get enough and they get sick and you need to take them to vet or something else that was unexpected? Basically that "barter" is fiat we are talking about, it is money, there is no more barter in the world anymore, you can't just take your cow to vet and get him healed and give 30 eggs in return, that is not available anymore.

Hence, everyone needs money. Is it our boss and employer? Well I try to live like money doesn't really decide what I will do, sure it impacts a part of it, but not 100% of it, some decisions are totally based without money in my mind, it allows you to have a much better life.
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Wrong analogy, us investors and cryptocurrency traders are not working for money. It's the other way around, money is working for us. Sure we may still have to look at our tradings and all now and then, but come to think of it, we can do this whenever we feel like, and it almost always guarantees profits, provided that you have sound judgement and a wide knowledge of the game. So it's not us working for the money. It's money working for us.

I think both Analogy are kinda correct depends on where you are viewing it from. From the posters view, as a new person to making money, they have to work for the money as in, work to make the money and from your point, you get to a point where you have to make you money work for you and like you said, most of us have our money locked in and making the profits but just needs the monitoring every now and then but from the other point of view, they have to work for the money now to be able to be in that position where the money now works for them.
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February 18, 2021, 11:23:53 AM
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Wrong analogy, us investors and cryptocurrency traders are not working for money. It's the other way around, money is working for us. Sure we may still have to look at our tradings and all now and then, but come to think of it, we can do this whenever we feel like, and it almost always guarantees profits, provided that you have sound judgement and a wide knowledge of the game. So it's not us working for the money. It's money working for us.

I think both Analogy are kinda correct depends on where you are viewing it from. From the posters view, as a new person to making money, they have to work for the money as in, work to make the money and from your point, you get to a point where you have to make you money work for you and like you said, most of us have our money locked in and making the profits but just needs the monitoring every now and then but from the other point of view, they have to work for the money now to be able to be in that position where the money now works for them.

I agree with what you say and there have been prominent people that have made it financially that have posted different quotes about this;

"If you don't find a way to make money while you sleep, you will work until you die." -Warren Buffett

"Don't work for money; Make money work for you" - Robert Kiyosaki

And many more people believe at a point in your life after you have worked for money, your money should start working for you while you take a more relaxed life depending on how you set it up.
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I understand what you are trying to say but the context that you are making your analogy is not very appropriate. No doubt that money is good and it helps to enjoy life on earth but money is not the boss because it can't get you all the things you want on eat here. I will make a list for you on certain things that money can get for you.

1. Happiness : You can have all the money on earth but still unhappy. You are unhappy because there are certain more things you can't get with the plenty of money you have worked for.

2. Life: Your money can't buy you life when your time is up to die. You may be prolonging it by having access to good medical treatment that a poor person may not get to but that is because is not time for you to die. Your cells and organs are still responding to treatment but when they are no longer responding, your money can't induce them anymore.

You have heard that the love for money is evil.

I agree because I like the world without greed. For me, money is not the root of all evil but the love of it is. Money is a tool that can do a lot of righteous things for us, as long as the implementation is in earnest. If we do this, the world will probably get better for sure.
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February 19, 2021, 03:40:26 PM
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If you wamt to be wealthy u need to do good things for money
That’s for you and how you’re seeing it, but I don’t see money as a boss or anything like that, it’s just a means of exchange or something that we are all using as a way to pay for services and goods that we need daily.

Yes, it’s true that there are people who are out to do anything because of money and those are the ones that we would look at and say that they have love for money and on that case we can use this line that money is their boss. As for me that’s not the case, I only work for because I know that I need to be able to get the things I need daily.

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February 20, 2021, 04:30:39 PM
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Everybody needs money. This is one of the fundamental needs for humans to survive. Like how air and water is. Sorry for being a bit philosophical but if money is only the thing that drives you to live your life, you are living your life in a wrong perspective.

Yes, that's true, that almost everything involves money, bit that doesn't mean that we will let it control us. That's why there are things like investing and such, which we control our own money.

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March 27, 2021, 06:14:27 AM
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Wrong analogy, us investors and cryptocurrency traders are not working for money. It's the other way around, money is working for us. Sure we may still have to look at our tradings and all now and then, but come to think of it, we can do this whenever we feel like, and it almost always guarantees profits, provided that you have sound judgement and a wide knowledge of the game. So it's not us working for the money. It's money working for us.

I think both Analogy are kinda correct depends on where you are viewing it from. From the posters view, as a new person to making money, they have to work for the money as in, work to make the money and from your point, you get to a point where you have to make you money work for you and like you said, most of us have our money locked in and making the profits but just needs the monitoring every now and then but from the other point of view, they have to work for the money now to be able to be in that position where the money now works for them.

I agree with what you say and there have been prominent people that have made it financially that have posted different quotes about this;

"If you don't find a way to make money while you sleep, you will work until you die." -Warren Buffett

"Don't work for money; Make money work for you" - Robert Kiyosaki

And many more people believe at a point in your life after you have worked for money, your money should start working for you while you take a more relaxed life depending on how you set it up.

You are right about your money working for you at some point, it is very possible that a person will get to a stage in their life where they will seat back and watch their investments (in the form of their money) work for them i .e generating profit from what they have investment,  I would also love to have this experience at some point in life  Cool

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March 27, 2021, 06:45:54 AM
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The point is money is essential in this world, to live a comfortable life or to survive, we need money. People are becoming greedy because of it and if you have money you're capable to do anything and think highly of yourself. Its not right but that's the reality, if you're penniless they will look down on you.

But life is not all about money, yes it is essential but there's more important thing aside from money and that is genuine happiness that is priceless. We can continue working and strive hard to have a better life but lets not forget that our life has a limit so make the most out of it.

Instead of working for money, we can let money work for us like investing in crypto. We just need knowledge and experience to be able to do it.

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March 27, 2021, 06:49:21 AM
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Wrong analogy, us investors and cryptocurrency traders are not working for money. It's the other way around, money is working for us. Sure we may still have to look at our tradings and all now and then, but come to think of it, we can do this whenever we feel like, and it almost always guarantees profits, provided that you have sound judgement and a wide knowledge of the game. So it's not us working for the money. It's money working for us.

I think both Analogy are kinda correct depends on where you are viewing it from. From the posters view, as a new person to making money, they have to work for the money as in, work to make the money and from your point, you get to a point where you have to make you money work for you and like you said, most of us have our money locked in and making the profits but just needs the monitoring every now and then but from the other point of view, they have to work for the money now to be able to be in that position where the money now works for them.

I agree with what you say and there have been prominent people that have made it financially that have posted different quotes about this;

"If you don't find a way to make money while you sleep, you will work until you die." -Warren Buffett

"Don't work for money; Make money work for you" - Robert Kiyosaki

And many more people believe at a point in your life after you have worked for money, your money should start working for you while you take a more relaxed life depending on how you set it up.

You are right about your money working for you at some point, it is very possible that a person will get to a stage in their life where they will seat back and watch their investments (in the form of their money) work for them i .e generating profit from what they have investment,  I would also love to have this experience at some point in life  Cool
Sure, this is why for now we have to work for the Boss as the OP thinks but the Idea is for you not to allow that situation to be permanent. We have to be able to change that scenario and at some point in our lives make that money that you have worked for a long time, now be the one working for you and you now being the boss. I want to believe that the OPs Ideology of Money is the Boss will not be applying to people Like Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Dangote and the likes because I don't think they will see money as their Boss Grin
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March 27, 2021, 06:52:11 AM
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The words like "we got to work for money "
That means money is our boss.
I don't want to say that, my boss is not money, I am the boss, money is my slave, I manage them online whether in crypto investing or other things.

Money vs money was born: (money) boss itself is not money, for me it is not beautiful to say money as a boss.

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March 27, 2021, 07:02:46 AM
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The words like "we got to work for money "
That means money is our boss.

When you need food you need money.
When you nedd time you need money .
So you work for your boss money.
If something is bad for money it will changed.
Goverment is protector of money.
Money is protected the money value is protected.
So i work for money money is ultimate boss.
When you nedd time you work for the money to get time.
You need luxury or material things you work for your boss the money.
You do stupid things sometimes becose ur boss want you to do it and ypur boss is money.


If you been doing good for money you get rewards from money aka ur boss.
You need job u work for money


If u win with crypto you been good with money u treated nice money and you worked hard for money .

So work hard for your boss dont be lazy and try to lia to your boss and your boss will pay you salary.


The world most biggest boss the money

If you want great rewards of money work good for money .
Do things whats best for money .
Make money valuble and money will reward u greatest.

If you wamt to be wealthy u need to do good things for money


Just because you work for the money and money  makes the world function properly does not mean money is the boss or is in control,  such notion will lead you to have such negative thoughts to earn by any means necessary,
Incase you haven't noticed, your money can also work for you if you apply the right approach,  

A guy invested few $$ in btc back in 2021 and hold till recently which made him a made millionaire, all through that period he did nothing but hold without breaking a sweat, and now his tiny investment has turned millions, can you tell me how hard the guy had work for that money?

Working hard for the money is not always the case, there is a popular saying that goes, 'its not how far but how well' . Some people don't need to left a finger while their money is working for them.

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