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I'll show you what's going on in Russia. The red line on the graph is mortality in Russia for 2020 from January to November) The blue line on the graph is the death rate in Russia for 2019 from January to November) The increase in mortality in 2020 compared to 2019 was 339 640 people. https://zen.yandex.ru/media/burckina_faso/kritikuiu-cifry-tatiany-golikovoi-o-sverhcmeptnocti-rossiian-v-2020-godu-60221d64eccec86b33ad4242Lockdowns only in large cities, In other cities there is no control, the necessary medical care, doctors and all hospitals are overcrowded. So if a person gets sick, then that will be his problem. There was a lockdown in my city, but only documented for the report. In practice, no one forces you to stay at home.
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I'll show you what's going on in Russia. The red line on the graph is mortality in Russia for 2020 from January to November) The blue line on the graph is the death rate in Russia for 2019 from January to November) The increase in mortality in 2020 compared to 2019 was 339 640 people. https://zen.yandex.ru/media/burckina_faso/kritikuiu-cifry-tatiany-golikovoi-o-sverhcmeptnocti-rossiian-v-2020-godu-60221d64eccec86b33ad4242Lockdowns only in large cities, In other cities there is no control, the necessary medical care, doctors and all hospitals are overcrowded. So if a person gets sick, then that will be his problem. There was a lockdown in my city, but only documented for the report. In practice, no one forces you to stay at home. How are the vaccinations going there in Russia? You have your own vaccine, Sputnik, and your own production line. You're pretty much independent in that sector. It's a shame that European Countries haven't co-operated with Russia to accommodate the high demand in vaccines. So far, the EU has contracted with pharmaceutical companies (Pfizer, AstraZeneca) that were unable to supply the increased demand.
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I'll show you what's going on in Russia. The red line on the graph is mortality in Russia for 2020 from January to November) The blue line on the graph is the death rate in Russia for 2019 from January to November) The increase in mortality in 2020 compared to 2019 was 339 640 people. https://zen.yandex.ru/media/burckina_faso/kritikuiu-cifry-tatiany-golikovoi-o-sverhcmeptnocti-rossiian-v-2020-godu-60221d64eccec86b33ad4242Lockdowns only in large cities, In other cities there is no control, the necessary medical care, doctors and all hospitals are overcrowded. So if a person gets sick, then that will be his problem. There was a lockdown in my city, but only documented for the report. In practice, no one forces you to stay at home. How are the vaccinations going there in Russia? You have your own vaccine, Sputnik , and your own production line. You're pretty much independent in that sector. It's a shame that European Countries haven't co-operated with Russia to accommodate the high demand in vaccines. So far, the EU has contracted with pharmaceutical companies (Pfizer, AstraZeneca) that were unable to supply the increased demand. In Russia, there is a vaccination with Sputnik V, but do not think that everything is fine. Vaccinations are done in 2 stages, first the 1st vaccination, the second after 2 weeks. I have no medical education and cannot tell about the side effects of this vaccine. No one knows the consequences of introducing virus genes into the body and how this will affect human health. The worst thing is that after the vaccination, the immunity is greatly weakened, and if you get sick with the coronavirus at this time, then you will have big problems. Full immunity is formed 42 days after stage 2. Many people have a high fever for several days after each vaccination for several days. You can read the review https://www.iphones.ru/iNotes/sdelal-vtoruyu-privivku-sputnik-v-i-proveril-antitela-01-31-2021There are a lot of lies in the news, it's hard to find the truth, any criticism is blocked. I will not do this vaccine even if they pay me money for it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Until then, there is no more information.
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I'll show you what's going on in Russia. The red line on the graph is mortality in Russia for 2020 from January to November) The blue line on the graph is the death rate in Russia for 2019 from January to November) The increase in mortality in 2020 compared to 2019 was 339 640 people. https://zen.yandex.ru/media/burckina_faso/kritikuiu-cifry-tatiany-golikovoi-o-sverhcmeptnocti-rossiian-v-2020-godu-60221d64eccec86b33ad4242Lockdowns only in large cities, In other cities there is no control, the necessary medical care, doctors and all hospitals are overcrowded. So if a person gets sick, then that will be his problem. There was a lockdown in my city, but only documented for the report. In practice, no one forces you to stay at home. How are the vaccinations going there in Russia? You have your own vaccine, Sputnik, and your own production line. You're pretty much independent in that sector. It's a shame that European Countries haven't co-operated with Russia to accommodate the high demand in vaccines. So far, the EU has contracted with pharmaceutical companies (Pfizer, AstraZeneca) that were unable to supply the increased demand. A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus. According to him, this is a difficult test for the body. The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance. For two or three days his arm was very sore. He was drenched in sweat. However, then these symptoms disappeared. For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first. Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine. This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world.
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I am sorry for the situation you are facing due to the protection measures for Covid19. Do not feel distressed think that soon you will leave the confinement. Look for God in the Bible, he will give you peace and tranquility and you will be filled with joy.
I will share my first impression when the lockdown started in my country (Venezuela). I felt a lot of terror, I felt that the world would soon end and that I had an enormous responsibility to take care of my family, although I am a person who frequently suffers from allergies I could not send my mother to buy groceries, I should do it at all risk and with God from my hand and I did so until now.
Fortunately, I have not been infected, but my immune system has suffered but daily I look for a way to strengthen it. Only faith in God that everything will end is what makes me strong and I do not look at my confinement with concern because I know that I am a person vulnerable to the virus.
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A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus. According to him, this is a difficult test for the body. The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance. For two or three days his arm was very sore. He was drenched in sweat. However, then these symptoms disappeared. For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first. Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine. This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world. I see. So, the vaccine had an immediate short term side effect. We, in our country has not have the vaccine yet. But do they run an allergy test before injecting the vaccine into your body? Or that's a normal reaction your friend have experienced after taking the vaccine? And, is taking the vaccines compulsory in your country? I'm sorry If I'm asking these questions, Im just a bit worried about it's short and long term effect to a human body especially with senior citizens and children.
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A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus. According to him, this is a difficult test for the body. The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance. For two or three days his arm was very sore. He was drenched in sweat. However, then these symptoms disappeared. For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first. Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine. This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world. I see. So, the vaccine had an immediate short term side effect. We, in our country has not have the vaccine yet. But do they run an allergy test before injecting the vaccine into your body? Or that's a normal reaction your friend have experienced after taking the vaccine? And, is taking the vaccines compulsory in your country? I'm sorry If I'm asking these questions, Im just a bit worried about it's short and long term effect to a human body especially with senior citizens and children. I would really be having doubts on taking those vaccines without seeing it first on what are the possible side-effects that would really come out soon or later on. This is just new and we cant really remove on someones thoughts or mind on those possibilities.We don't like to experience those negative effects. Here in my country it isn't really that mandatory but health professionals are being mandated to do so. Lets see if there would be no side-effects for this one for a certain period of time and if its really that effective as they say.
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A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus.
According to him, this is a difficult test for the body. The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance. For two or three days his arm was very sore. He was drenched in sweat. However, then these symptoms disappeared. For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first.
Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine.
This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world.
Actually Russia is one of the few countries with an oversupply of the vaccine right now. As per the government, some 1.7 million people have received both doses of the vaccine so far, but the number of individuals enrolling for the vaccination program is slowing down. There seems to be a lot of mistrust. But this vaccine (Sputnik V) is being exported to a large number of countries including Argentina and the UAE and in these countries the people are very positive about it.
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I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?
Lockdowns are very depressing and we have experienced that in the early months of the pandemic because you are exposed to something dangerous and you have to think and act the way you have not done before, but you have to endure this and we have to make ourselves stronger on this challenges, we are glad that this will soon be over, and we will go back to normal again.
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A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus. According to him, this is a difficult test for the body. The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance. For two or three days his arm was very sore. He was drenched in sweat. However, then these symptoms disappeared. For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first. Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine. This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world. I see. So, the vaccine had an immediate short term side effect. We, in our country has not have the vaccine yet. But do they run an allergy test before injecting the vaccine into your body? Or that's a normal reaction your friend have experienced after taking the vaccine? And, is taking the vaccines compulsory in your country? I'm sorry If I'm asking these questions, Im just a bit worried about it's short and long term effect to a human body especially with senior citizens and children. Currently, there is no compulsory vaccination in Russia. Most likely, there will be no compulsory vaccination in Russia. This is due to political protests and demonstrations. The authorities are afraid of popular discontent. The official version of the authorities is that the coronavirus epidemic in Russia is waning. According to my observations, people are now very sick. I don't know what people get sick - colds and flu or coronavirus. The end of winter - the beginning of spring is the peak of viral and respiratory diseases. In Russia (as far as I know), patients are not tested for allergies and antibodies before vaccination. Moreover, the presence of antibodies is a contraindication to the administration of the vaccine. Putin said he would be vaccinated closer to autumn. This is a smart approach. Vaccination campaigns cannot be carried out during an epidemic. This has not been done before. In the fight against the pandemic, unfortunately, the main role is played by officials, and not professional doctors - virologists.
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February 14, 2021, 12:55:44 PM |
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A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus. According to him, this is a difficult test for the body. The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance. For two or three days his arm was very sore. He was drenched in sweat. However, then these symptoms disappeared. For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first. Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine. This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world. I see. So, the vaccine had an immediate short term side effect. We, in our country has not have the vaccine yet. But do they run an allergy test before injecting the vaccine into your body? Or that's a normal reaction your friend have experienced after taking the vaccine? And, is taking the vaccines compulsory in your country? I'm sorry If I'm asking these questions, Im just a bit worried about it's short and long term effect to a human body especially with senior citizens and children. Currently, there is no compulsory vaccination in Russia. Most likely, there will be no compulsory vaccination in Russia. This is due to political protests and demonstrations. The authorities are afraid of popular discontent. The official version of the authorities is that the coronavirus epidemic in Russia is waning. According to my observations, people are now very sick. I don't know what people get sick - colds and flu or coronavirus. The end of winter - the beginning of spring is the peak of viral and respiratory diseases. In Russia (as far as I know), patients are not tested for allergies and antibodies before vaccination. Moreover, the presence of antibodies is a contraindication to the administration of the vaccine. Putin said he would be vaccinated closer to autumn. This is a smart approach. Vaccination campaigns cannot be carried out during an epidemic. This has not been done before. In the fight against the pandemic, unfortunately, the main role is played by officials, and not professional doctors - virologists. I understand, I am not against vaccinations by any means, the faster the population gets vaccinated, the quicker we'll return to some kind of normalcy. However, at least here and most European Countries, it is advised to not get vaccinated if you're experiencing severe allergies. We haven't had any severe cases here so far. If I am not mistaken, the Sputnik vaccine is not an mRNA one like those from Pfizer or AstraZenera, those that we have in Europe. Am I right?
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If I am not mistaken, the Sputnik vaccine is not an mRNA one like those from Pfizer or AstraZenera, those that we have in Europe. Am I right?
Suptnik V is a "Non-replicating viral vector" vaccine. On the other hand, the vaccines from both Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA-based vaccines. Sputnik V is created by genetically modifying the Adenovirus (common cold virus) by inserting COVID-19 genetic material in to it. The virus can't replicate inside the human body, but the COVID-19 genetic material present in it will cause human body to produce antibodies against the Coronavirus infection. RNA based vaccines uses modRNA from the virus cell to trigger immune response from the human body.
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February 14, 2021, 01:03:38 PM |
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A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus. According to him, this is a difficult test for the body. The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance. For two or three days his arm was very sore. He was drenched in sweat. However, then these symptoms disappeared. For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first. Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine. This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world. I see. So, the vaccine had an immediate short term side effect. We, in our country has not have the vaccine yet. But do they run an allergy test before injecting the vaccine into your body? Or that's a normal reaction your friend have experienced after taking the vaccine? And, is taking the vaccines compulsory in your country? I'm sorry If I'm asking these questions, Im just a bit worried about it's short and long term effect to a human body especially with senior citizens and children. Any vaccine is dangerous to do if a person has chronic diseases. Most people in Russia over 55 have chronic diseases, so no one can predict side effects. Before the vaccination, you sign a special agreement, and if something happens to you after the vaccination, then the medical institution that gave you the vaccine will not be responsible for this. As far as I know, children are not given the vaccine. Friends were sick with coronavirus, and their children had symptoms of mild colds. Maybe it's good that there is no vaccine in your country, because it has not yet been tested.
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February 14, 2021, 01:26:21 PM |
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A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus. According to him, this is a difficult test for the body. The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance. For two or three days his arm was very sore. He was drenched in sweat. However, then these symptoms disappeared. For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first. Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine. This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world. I see. So, the vaccine had an immediate short term side effect. We, in our country has not have the vaccine yet. But do they run an allergy test before injecting the vaccine into your body? Or that's a normal reaction your friend have experienced after taking the vaccine? And, is taking the vaccines compulsory in your country? I'm sorry If I'm asking these questions, Im just a bit worried about it's short and long term effect to a human body especially with senior citizens and children. Currently, there is no compulsory vaccination in Russia. Most likely, there will be no compulsory vaccination in Russia. This is due to political protests and demonstrations. The authorities are afraid of popular discontent. The official version of the authorities is that the coronavirus epidemic in Russia is waning. According to my observations, people are now very sick. I don't know what people get sick - colds and flu or coronavirus. The end of winter - the beginning of spring is the peak of viral and respiratory diseases. In Russia (as far as I know), patients are not tested for allergies and antibodies before vaccination. Moreover, the presence of antibodies is a contraindication to the administration of the vaccine. Putin said he would be vaccinated closer to autumn. This is a smart approach. Vaccination campaigns cannot be carried out during an epidemic. This has not been done before. In the fight against the pandemic, unfortunately, the main role is played by officials, and not professional doctors - virologists. I understand, I am not against vaccinations by any means, the faster the population gets vaccinated, the quicker we'll return to some kind of normalcy. However, at least here and most European Countries, it is advised to not get vaccinated if you're experiencing severe allergies. We haven't had any severe cases here so far. If I am not mistaken, the Sputnik vaccine is not an mRNA one like those from Pfizer or AstraZenera, those that we have in Europe. Am I right? No, Sputnik-V has a fundamentally different operating principle. You can use the following comic explanation of the principle of action. Virologists took a well-known adenovirus and cut off his penis and eggs. They then took the coronavirus virus, also cut off his penis and eggs, and attached the Covid-19 penis and eggs to the body of the adenovirus. Then this creature was injected through a syringe into the human body. The resulting bastard tries to fuck human cells and multiply. However, his penis does not rise. The cells start screaming, “Help! Rape!" Immunity is turned on, and the alien is expelled from the body in disgrace. After that, photos of the penis and coronavirus eggs are posted on all information boards with a note - "The police are looking for them!" If the coronavirus does not undergo a very strong mutation, then it will no longer be able to attack a person.
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Hex ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) The main problem is that the coronavirus mutates. I have read different forecasts that the vaccine is valid for 1-4 years, but these are only assumptions. The Vaccine Manufacturer TypeBNT162b2 Pfizer / BioNTech mRNA Vaccine mRNA-1273 Moderna mRNA Vaccine ChAdOx1 AstraZeneca Vector Vaccine (adenovirus) JNJ-78436735 Johnson & Johnson Vector Vaccine (adenovirus) CoronaVac Sinovac Inactivated Virus Sputnik V Gamalei Institute Vector vaccine (adenovirus) Ad5-nCoV CanSino Vector vaccine (adenovirus) https://deep-review.com/articles/what-is-mrna-vaccine-coronavirus/The mRNA vaccine is very expensive because it requires special conditions for transportation and storage.
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February 14, 2021, 02:02:20 PM |
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Any vaccine is dangerous to do if a person has chronic diseases. Most people in Russia over 55 have chronic diseases, so no one can predict side effects. Before the vaccination, you sign a special agreement, and if something happens to you after the vaccination, then the medical institution that gave you the vaccine will not be responsible for this. As far as I know, children are not given the vaccine. Friends were sick with coronavirus, and their children had symptoms of mild colds. Maybe it's good that there is no vaccine in your country, because it has not yet been tested.
But something needs to be done against COVID 19, right? From your own data (that you posted previously), there have been close to 400,000 excess deaths in the past 5-6 months. This is a huge number, especially for a country such as Russia where the population decline was underway even before the pandemic started spreading. Apart from vaccination, what are the other options? The Sputnik V clinical trial data is published in Lancet, which happens to be one of the most reputed medical journals out there. It shows that the vaccine has a 92% efficacy against the virus. That means if the people were vaccinated from the start, then more than 360,000 deaths could have been prevented just in Russia. So as long as we don't have reports of large number of people dying as a result of vaccination, I am not going to argue against it.
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February 14, 2021, 03:30:52 PM |
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Any vaccine is dangerous to do if a person has chronic diseases. Most people in Russia over 55 have chronic diseases, so no one can predict side effects. Before the vaccination, you sign a special agreement, and if something happens to you after the vaccination, then the medical institution that gave you the vaccine will not be responsible for this. As far as I know, children are not given the vaccine. Friends were sick with coronavirus, and their children had symptoms of mild colds. Maybe it's good that there is no vaccine in your country, because it has not yet been tested.
But something needs to be done against COVID 19, right? From your own data (that you posted previously), there have been close to 400,000 excess deaths in the past 5-6 months. This is a huge number, especially for a country such as Russia where the population decline was underway even before the pandemic started spreading. Apart from vaccination, what are the other options? The Sputnik V clinical trial data is published in Lancet, which happens to be one of the most reputed medical journals out there. It shows that the vaccine has a 92% efficacy against the virus. That means if the people were vaccinated from the start, then more than 360,000 deaths could have been prevented just in Russia. So as long as we don't have reports of large number of people dying as a result of vaccination, I am not going to argue against it. There are alternative studies that show that the rise in disease and eridemia occurs at the most difficult times for the country. This statistics for the city of St. Petersburg, which shows the statistics of the growth of diphtheria, dysentery and samlmonellosis in 1993-1994 in 10-15 times. These years were very difficult for Russia. The USSR collapsed and throughout the country there was a struggle for power between security officials, criminals and politicians. https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5f996e08aaa12e504f707b4d/profgundarov-ia-o-speshke-s-vakcinaciei-i-sekretnoi-statistike-6020f96553bb652e6a93a82cI do not dissuade anyone from vaccinations, but I know how statistics are drawn in my country. Most people in Russia die not because of epidemics, but because of poverty. They have no money for treatment.
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It is really hard to cope with this pandemic. The feeling of thinking that it will end so quickly but it isn't. A lot of people are having a hard time following the protocols which usually bring more cases here in the province. It is hard to work especially that we are not used to these kinds of methods but education needed to be there that is why we must find ways to teach our students.
It is stressful and we are so worried about our students not learning from our modules especially that we don't have that fast internet connection and some of them don't even have a phone or a cell signal.
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Hello from Greece, I'd like to discuss any repercussions that stem from Covid-19 response measures (Or lockdown depending on where you are), either Economical, Psychological or anything else you can think of.
We've been in lockdown since the early days of November, only retail has been reopened and even that isn't open in every region due to a rise of cases in them. Moreover, the recent surge of cases throughout the whole country might be leading to a 3rd lockdown (like it is much different from now). Definitely, the economic repercussions are huge throughout the world, since most countries have taken extreme measures in order to suppress the pandemic. However, the combination of financial depression and quarantine, could lead to clinical depression in a respectable percentage of the population.
Seeing it from my point of view, being in home, almost 24/7, while the supermarket or to the pharmacy being the only way out is depressing and driving me nuts. We can also go out for exercise/walking. I'm living in a region that is characterized as "Red zone", everything closes at 5.30 p.m, while we cannot leave the house after 6pm. My only escape is going out cycling every once in a while.
I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?
In my country, at the moment, you can do almost absolutely everything. Some even had their salaries increased. The only thing that depresses me is wearing insulation masks. I really want to forget about them and never use them again in my life. If we talk about the world of crypto, as you can see since March 2020, the capitalization of the cryptocurrency market is only growing and does not stop. I am sure that this depressing situation only played into the hands of the cryptocurrency market.
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February 14, 2021, 04:43:00 PM |
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It is really hard to cope with this pandemic. The feeling of thinking that it will end so quickly but it isn't. A lot of people are having a hard time following the protocols which usually bring more cases here in the province. It is hard to work especially that we are not used to these kinds of methods but education needed to be there that is why we must find ways to teach our students.
It is stressful and we are so worried about our students not learning from our modules especially that we don't have that fast internet connection and some of them don't even have a phone or a cell signal.
The impact of so much of Covid-19 in my area is that the total students have not been able to go to school for almost a year and they are now difficult to communicate even less educated because their lessons are no longer there, I always ask why this pandemic is taking so long many people they become chaotic and criminals occur everywhere because they are in trouble in the economy, therefore they can run the order. The students are now only silent without any assignments while online schools will not be maximized, like going to a school that has a strong instinct from the teacher, therefore if the pandemic is over then we will be happy with the activities being up to date.
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